The Rat Tank That Nobody Plays

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @Spookston
    @Spookston  23 дня назад +139

    Decal link: tinyurl.com/42thwzv3

    • @On7.
      @On7. 23 дня назад +3

      CT CV105hp day 37

    • @tomasmatejcek2526
      @tomasmatejcek2526 23 дня назад +2

      Please arcade i gave you my money

    • @DaPumaTank
      @DaPumaTank 23 дня назад +2

      I mean, I’ve asked for the pack puma, but this is just as good.
      How about this for a video: use the sdkfz with the Puma and try and get a nuke with both? That could be entertaining. Btw I hope you are doing well

    • @SillyForThat0
      @SillyForThat0 23 дня назад

      How’s the pizza.

    • @Cyanfox3006
      @Cyanfox3006 23 дня назад

      Ikv 103 at 8.0, as a president of Bigfoot community, i can say that that is an absolute goblin

  • @IlllIlIlIIlll
    @IlllIlIlIIlll 23 дня назад +2465

    Puma but its cold

  • @Mister_Clean
    @Mister_Clean 23 дня назад +383

    That "Oh f***" was such a genuine reaction and caught me so off guard 😂

  • @The_One_Man_001
    @The_One_Man_001 23 дня назад +1371

    Challenge idea: play a non stabilized tank but you can never stop moving.

    • @BrenoAgmL
      @BrenoAgmL 23 дня назад +112

      MBT but turn off stab.

    • @o-hogameplay185
      @o-hogameplay185 23 дня назад +32

      ZiS-30 but can only shoot on full move

    • @brockisenburg5437
      @brockisenburg5437 23 дня назад +29

      Black prince has entered the chat

    • @Tuncay-badassis1
      @Tuncay-badassis1 23 дня назад +6

      Turtle slow and non stebized good for that

    • @banggobang5148
      @banggobang5148 23 дня назад +3

      ​@@BrenoAgmL Or just use the first Leopard 1

  • @AceTheMM
    @AceTheMM 23 дня назад +240

    0:28 Not Spookston being out of touch and forgetting that Rank I vehicles, regardless of class, don't get scouting. /j

    • @bobbertrobbert6282
      @bobbertrobbert6282 22 дня назад +10

      Is that because most rank one vehicles are light tanks?

    • @squillz8310
      @squillz8310 22 дня назад +28

      as a 10 year vet of the game, I am only just now learning this answer to my eternal question.

    • @user-ns4zm8qe9p
      @user-ns4zm8qe9p 22 дня назад +12

      @@bobbertrobbert6282and it would just be insanity there’d be pings everywhere

    • @kolla5415
      @kolla5415 22 дня назад +11

      When you reach Rank 2, you finally get scouting on your light vehicle. Rank 1 are full of light vehicles so by default they should get a scouting but Gaijin said nope as just imagine in Rank 1 everyone will get ping on the map.

    • @starcoloneldunadansonoft501
      @starcoloneldunadansonoft501 21 день назад +3

      Out of touch, but not out of time

  • @fenrir_ai1849
    @fenrir_ai1849 23 дня назад +346

    Hope your recovery is going well spookston

  • @azuresstuff
    @azuresstuff 22 дня назад +104

    the bombs at 13:52 were perfect

    • @tinucus9218
      @tinucus9218 22 дня назад +19

      "uhuh speakin o pizza italians right?!"
      *smote*

    • @hawk9mm
      @hawk9mm 22 дня назад

      @@tinucus9218 Oh Fuck...

  • @MoonWeasel23
    @MoonWeasel23 23 дня назад +571

    You know another open top vehicle that is absolutely ridiculous? The PVKV II. Massive 75mm gun. Massive APHE filler. Massive reload time. Massive results. You should play it. Sweden beckons

    • @shronkler1994
      @shronkler1994 23 дня назад +27

      if it had a bit of a shorter reload, it'd be more enjoyable. still a nice tank, with MASSIVE zoom

    • @Phantomenace1
      @Phantomenace1 23 дня назад

      Gross sweds

    • @Cyanfox3006
      @Cyanfox3006 23 дня назад +35

      ​@@shronkler1994This may have been the first and only tank which i said: "There is too much zoom on this thing"

    • @aidanhart6419
      @aidanhart6419 22 дня назад +8

      The aphe changes it a lot. Hated grinding the AP on it, but the aphe made it a godsend that I would keep as a backup in higher brs

    • @warthunderclipper
      @warthunderclipper 22 дня назад +1

      @@Cyanfox3006play the JPz 4-5

  • @fragle1220
    @fragle1220 22 дня назад +41

    Big fan of that image at 6:53. New favourite

    • @wtdoober
      @wtdoober 22 дня назад +3

      New face ‼️‼️

    • @Mister_Clean
      @Mister_Clean 22 дня назад

      ​@@wtdooberNew Fox Unlocked

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin 22 дня назад

      Lmao

  • @o-hogameplay185
    @o-hogameplay185 23 дня назад +141

    fun fact:
    german 75mm HEAT has a 12mm HE effect pen, so hitting turret roofs or the turret front near the hull roof is a really effective way if the plates are less than 12mm.

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR 22 дня назад +1

      THis and the threshold for overpressure is well exceeded so you can overpressure most tanks anyway.

    • @o-hogameplay185
      @o-hogameplay185 22 дня назад

      @@N4CR if they are open top or the HE effect can pen the armor

  • @darwinjong.09
    @darwinjong.09 23 дня назад +89

    German tanks with the 20mm like the AA Puma can fire indefinitely if you sit on the cap because the mag replenishes faster than it’s used and the gun doesn’t overheat and jam, that would be a cool video idea

    • @zxcymbal
      @zxcymbal 22 дня назад +4

      all vehicles with clip fed autocannons can do that

    • @darwinjong.09
      @darwinjong.09 22 дня назад +19

      @ lots of them overheat and jam, the 20mm on the AA puma never jams

  • @vega2270
    @vega2270 23 дня назад +78

    The cromwell RP3 is still calling you silly

  • @MRchilZa
    @MRchilZa 22 дня назад +15

    13:52 "I mean UH Speaking Of Pizza, Italian Right? Oh f**k." wise last words from spookston.

  • @JonathanPan-d8u
    @JonathanPan-d8u 23 дня назад +47

    Rommel's funny
    It was designed to be able to engage enemies in the desert without cooking the crew alive, along with a bunch of othe vehicles like the Sturmpanzer 2, Sdkfz 234/4, and a Sturmpanzer 3 converted from a StuG.
    Sturmpanzer StuG would be an interesting addition to the game

    • @JonathanPan-d8u
      @JonathanPan-d8u 22 дня назад +2

      Correction: Sturmpanzer StuG is a Panzer 3 conversion, my fault

    • @internetbodhi1009
      @internetbodhi1009 22 дня назад +6

      ​@@JonathanPan-d8u A stug III is a panzer III hull anyways.
      A Stuig is a conversion of a hull, stug or panzer III its the same

  • @Agent007-n3l
    @Agent007-n3l 22 дня назад +26

    13:52 God punished you for your Hubris

  • @SemoventeDa
    @SemoventeDa 23 дня назад +216

    Giorno 28 of asking Spookston to play Lancia R3o (100/17), the truck nobody plays.
    AND YOU WILL PLAY IT, AVANTI SAVOIA!

    • @thatcher00
      @thatcher00 23 дня назад +9

      Pasta waggon AVANTI SAVOIA

    • @JoniSchnitzel44
      @JoniSchnitzel44 22 дня назад +7

      Oh great master of the italian tanks! Please share with me your wisedom on making spookston play tanks. (I have been trying with the sk105a2 for 42 days now 😀)

    • @joshuamueller3206
      @joshuamueller3206 22 дня назад +2

      @@JoniSchnitzel44 Just keep at it for 3 years 😄

    • @SemoventeDa
      @SemoventeDa 22 дня назад +5

      @@JoniSchnitzel44 Oh gentil signore, determination is the key for everything.

    • @JoniSchnitzel44
      @JoniSchnitzel44 22 дня назад +3

      @ yay 😃

  • @cendrepice3288
    @cendrepice3288 22 дня назад +12

    13:52 was perfect

  • @vgames1543
    @vgames1543 23 дня назад +112

    You know what you didn't play yet?
    The Sturmtiger as a big bush.

    • @Mister_Clean
      @Mister_Clean 22 дня назад

      Or a tiny tank completely obscured by bushes 🤔

  • @crobbo6607
    @crobbo6607 23 дня назад +32

    What Pizza did you have tho? 13:40

  • @snaketanker
    @snaketanker 23 дня назад +43

    The reason it doesn’t get scouting is that it’s a rank 1 vehicle like the autocannon puma

    • @ranjela455
      @ranjela455 22 дня назад +3

      Since its also subsonic, can you technically supress the howitzer

    • @Isler_
      @Isler_ 22 дня назад +2

      @@ranjela455 sure... but why

  • @obiwankenobi4252
    @obiwankenobi4252 22 дня назад +22

    10:06 yeah that BT player isn’t touching war thunder for the next week

    • @IAmTheAce5
      @IAmTheAce5 20 дней назад

      >D Hi BT. Bye BT.

    • @obiwankenobi4252
      @obiwankenobi4252 20 дней назад

      @@IAmTheAce5guy got his engine shot out, then he missed at point blank range, spook tokyo-drifted into a firing position, the bt then missed another shot (technically it hit but it just mildly damaged his wheel) and promptly got evaporated by a short 75

  • @MikeTheLazyRat
    @MikeTheLazyRat 23 дня назад +29

    Hear me out here... *BM-8-24*

  • @JonathanPan-d8u
    @JonathanPan-d8u 23 дня назад +7

    1:33
    Spookston:
    gets strafed by CAS
    234/1 time bois

  • @Literally_a_burger
    @Literally_a_burger 23 дня назад +6

    Year 1 and month 2(almost) of asking Spookston to 'enjoy' the peak British APDS experience in the form of the Conway

  • @kosmokat111
    @kosmokat111 22 дня назад +2

    I used this thing to complete a substantial amount of the object 292 event, genuinely the most "Cyberbully" tank I think I've played

  • @ragnarokinfall8565
    @ragnarokinfall8565 22 дня назад +13

    Arent we going to talk about that double kill with HEAT? 4:14

    • @Keep3r1438
      @Keep3r1438 22 дня назад

      It wasn’t a collateral

    • @Greeev
      @Greeev 22 дня назад

      Yeah, it wasn't actually a double kill, he just killed the 2nd guy quickly enough after the first that it said kill x 2.

  • @hunlepto2239
    @hunlepto2239 21 день назад +2

    "Yeah, that's why I was worried about the HEAT, sometimes it will oneshot, sometimes it will do absolutely nothing"
    *proceeds to shoot almost the same spot and ignores the bounce*

  • @SunsetSlot
    @SunsetSlot 23 дня назад +9

    Attempt 67 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.

  • @SeaRaven227
    @SeaRaven227 22 дня назад +2

    All Puma's were Recon vehicles. It's just that the 50mm model was too good and some crew thought they'd been given a tank killer. So Command started downgrading the guns so they'd keep to Recon instead of trying to shoot tanks.

    • @spyczech
      @spyczech 15 дней назад

      Real story?

  • @Sandy-ig9pc
    @Sandy-ig9pc 23 дня назад +72

    petting my cat rn

  • @a_catfish5180
    @a_catfish5180 22 дня назад +7

    0:20 if anything it’s the opposite! Sometimes crew are just ghosts manifesting as a crew member because you can’t shoot them

  • @eihcra_
    @eihcra_ 22 дня назад +3

    You know what is the British comparison to the Puma? The Concept 3 (complete with ridiculous pen AP)

  • @tangero3462
    @tangero3462 22 дня назад +1

    1:21 absolutely killed me out of nowhere and now I'm just cackling here at work like a madman

  • @BoiStudio
    @BoiStudio 23 дня назад +6

    The Ratel 20 is a glass cannon, but it isn’t to bad.

  • @ComfortsSpecter
    @ComfortsSpecter 22 дня назад +1

    Haven’t seen this creature around much
    Good find

  • @richproductions1193
    @richproductions1193 23 дня назад +6

    the OG SAV right here, but still less toxic

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR 22 дня назад

      More toxic IMO, I almost always win vs SAV, its more maneuverable and can top down pen most things.

  • @Imieus
    @Imieus 22 дня назад +2

    I love low tier videos, please more of this stuff 🙏😂

  • @OlpaahAT
    @OlpaahAT 22 дня назад +9

    6:20 Spookston are you implying that you are returning to your roots as a germany main?

    • @NiteshadeX2
      @NiteshadeX2 22 дня назад +1

      He is the rat king, lord of goblins and flank kind. Magnet of cas and master of 'being so out of it right now.'

  • @ludovitbradovka5208
    @ludovitbradovka5208 22 дня назад

    Spookston: talking about using the M13 as a TD
    Killfeed: M13 destroyed BT-5

  • @ionix24
    @ionix24 23 дня назад +20

    if nobody plays this vehicle, then how do i die to it every single match

    • @An1me_v1b3r
      @An1me_v1b3r 23 дня назад +11

      Skill issue

    • @John.McMillan
      @John.McMillan 23 дня назад +2

      Me. Sorry mate. I love this thing.

    • @ionix24
      @ionix24 22 дня назад +1

      @@An1me_v1b3r :(

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR 22 дня назад

      @@An1me_v1b3r it's one of the best low tier tanks lol, I wouldn't say skill issue. I have a stupid KD in it and I often bring it up to higher BRs.

    • @jfurban75
      @jfurban75 10 дней назад

      Me too. I'm really used to the gun. ​@@John.McMillan

  • @rad6074
    @rad6074 22 дня назад

    I swear your editing only gets better with every video. I was impressed when you made the puma transparent.

  • @kingo1539
    @kingo1539 23 дня назад +7

    Something else nobody does is playing the Sprut or T-72A with HE only. It's incredibly funny seeing leopards completely disintegrate, and the 9.3 matchmaker is very favourable nowadays. You should try it

  • @Rift2123
    @Rift2123 22 дня назад

    hope your doing well Spookston also your reaction to the shell bouncing at about 7mins is absolute comedy gold man do WT gods give an taketh away

  • @TheBestTomatoEver
    @TheBestTomatoEver 22 дня назад +5

    Day 4 of asking Spookston to play the average size barrel french tank, the fcm.36
    (It's time to suffer)

  • @eugenioberti7336
    @eugenioberti7336 21 день назад +1

    Giorno 19 of asking spookston to play my favourite tank, the ikv 91-105. Decent mobility, VERY good cannon (Sweden rules)

  • @albundy8139
    @albundy8139 23 дня назад +4

    Low tier Germany has so many seal clubbing vehicles, 2.0 you can put together such a ridiculous premium lineup. A suggestion, T-34-85E, it's my favorite T-34, I just think it's neat.

  • @murisbukvic2496
    @murisbukvic2496 22 дня назад

    LVT's armor is paper thin and half it's crew is outside, it is definetly vulnerable to HE and HEAT
    i love the comedy golden moments from the editing and the game itself, specifically the carpet bomb divine retribution
    hope your recovery is progressing well

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 23 дня назад +5

    Day Sixty of asking Spookston to play the Semovente da 105/25.

    • @liladoodle
      @liladoodle 23 дня назад +4

      You're catching up to me, but don't quit.

  • @Greaterglider2
    @Greaterglider2 22 дня назад

    Your buddies are so sweet lol its wholesome when u help out the teamates

  • @liladoodle
    @liladoodle 23 дня назад +4

    Day Eighty of asking Spookston to play the SU-100 (The one based on the T-34).

  • @mnguy98
    @mnguy98 22 дня назад

    I find it incredibly ironic that I got an ad for the US Air Force immediately after Spookston boinked the Ki-109 with his coax

  • @yordobelps
    @yordobelps 22 дня назад

    Trust us spookston, it's played a lot, during events because it has the rank exception for events

  • @Rhino2854
    @Rhino2854 22 дня назад

    For future reference spookston, football is mostly played on Thursdays, Fridays,Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays

  • @Ininrompu
    @Ininrompu 22 дня назад +1

    When you watch his videos on 2x speed it somehow becomes 2x more entertaining 😭

  • @Gungho73
    @Gungho73 22 дня назад

    I love the little grunt voice line usage for some vehicles.

  • @DaGhoost777
    @DaGhoost777 22 дня назад +2

    13:47 is perfect

  • @lutzwolfsfell4828
    @lutzwolfsfell4828 22 дня назад

    The memeing in you videos are just really the cherry on top

  • @Howard_Carter
    @Howard_Carter 22 дня назад

    Even though I like the videos & I know it’s quite rare for you to play very low br, it still hurts me to see new or very occasional players get destroyed by super experienced players… I’ve been in their place and that made me stop playing for years before I stumbled upon your videos and went back to it.
    Anyway, keep it up we love it, hope your health is improving !
    Cya

  • @Dan_the_afol
    @Dan_the_afol 22 дня назад

    I started watching Spookston nearly a decade ago man I feel old

  • @rustynailcz4919
    @rustynailcz4919 22 дня назад

    Oh, I have a vision, a vision of a world, where living is better than here, the world where Spookston does a M60A3 TTS video, day 13.

  • @Eridanya
    @Eridanya 22 дня назад +1

    The "LVT - Do not." meme needs to make a comeback

  • @norliasmith
    @norliasmith 12 дней назад

    Those Halo CE grunt death sound bites always get me.

  • @Gritty_03
    @Gritty_03 22 дня назад +1

    Attempt 4 at asking Spookston to play the T-60. The original IFV

  • @Connor22Abrams4
    @Connor22Abrams4 22 дня назад

    I won that puma years ago from a crate and it was one of the most enjoyable vehicles I’ve ever played

  • @derf5045
    @derf5045 22 дня назад

    that pizza thing was so perfectly timed, not the italian tank, but the bombs

  • @jin2669
    @jin2669 21 день назад

    The low velocity is my favorite for bringing to higher tiers and arcing it over hills when doing hill battles

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 23 дня назад

    3:28 That cheeky loader . . . staring back at your bald spot . . . the nerve.

  • @Dragono_
    @Dragono_ 23 дня назад

    I’ve been on a 5 month WT hiatus, today I’m like “hmm, maybe I’ll get back into it”, see a Spookston upload and the very first death is to a plane. Think I’ll stay away a lil while longer 😭

  • @iplaygames8090
    @iplaygames8090 22 дня назад

    4:15 spookston not noticing he got a double kill with that heat round

  • @diegokevin3824
    @diegokevin3824 22 дня назад

    2:47 it actually shines on open maps, as you can snipe from behind cover (like literally having the full tank behind cover) because of arcing shots, that also let you hit people behind cover, and rain rapidfire HEAT.
    In urban maps its very weak, with a lack of turret you are screwed if someone gets behind or to the sides of you, because you cannot react on time, and you also can not peek around corners to shoot, plus with the low velocity shell you can't make snapshot shots at passing vehicles; that and it is vulnerable to beeing MGed to death at close quarters.
    Also on the topic of open maps, it is one of pumas that works best at uptiers, as you can always lob HEAT at the tops of vehicles.

  • @Greaterglider2
    @Greaterglider2 22 дня назад

    I like how u used the anti air puma as well that was cool

  • @Kikiapina
    @Kikiapina 18 дней назад

    6:57 Rare Spookston " Ae uheuhe " moment

  • @ThatMaus
    @ThatMaus 22 дня назад +1

    Day 34 (?) of telling spookston to play the IT1. its a ATGM launcher on the t62 chassis, it has decent-ish mobility, the turret is squished. You can hide behind cover and shoot ATGM over the cover like a gremlin and you overpressure tanks (tho it can be rare, but it does happen without you realizing) and its MG is really werid. Also it has a cool reload animation.

  • @unlink1649
    @unlink1649 22 дня назад

    Good to have you back after your surgery

  • @Blader445
    @Blader445 22 дня назад

    Spookston: Nobody uses this.
    Me, who enjoys the derp gun: But…I do?

  • @hugo-cp1jx
    @hugo-cp1jx 23 дня назад +1

    Nice Spookie

  • @subuwu9879
    @subuwu9879 21 день назад +2

    Play the M15 CGMC as both a tank destroyer and AA.

  • @Armageddon_71
    @Armageddon_71 22 дня назад

    The "quirky response force" and "Italians amirite?" completely got me XD

  • @keithrogers6876
    @keithrogers6876 22 дня назад

    Always find it interesting how often HEAT loves to ricochet in War Thunder.
    Very interesting considering how reliably it detonates on a leaf.

  • @Mr.Shellshocked2
    @Mr.Shellshocked2 22 дня назад

    There is also a non-premium of this tank and it has the same reload speed and the only difference is the hull. It’s a pretty solid vehicle. 8/10 would recommend

  • @Maddog3060
    @Maddog3060 22 дня назад

    Yes, play the SU-5. It's pain incarnate but satisfying when you manage to actually nail someone.
    Also for some reason my brain wants to call this the "Howdah" Puma.

  • @Ricelord0176
    @Ricelord0176 22 дня назад +1

    Challenge: Play the 1.3 chi ha with only aphe. It’s got 21mm of pen and the gun has really low velocity. (Day 30)

  • @olehaveresch321
    @olehaveresch321 22 дня назад

    My favorite tank in the game, whenever I am tired of top tier.
    People just can't comprehend how fast you can get into positions.

  • @N4CR
    @N4CR 22 дня назад

    This is one of my favourite, I have the entire collection of pumas. This one actually does almost better at higher BRs, due to top down firing heat from concealed positions. PLay it at BR6+ for lulz.
    Once you get used to the HEAT you will lead and snipe like boss. Don't use the APHE unless side on and close up. Fire from behind cover and you are invulnerable. 234/3 is great from short or long range.
    The 20mm used to also be deadly in upteirs until they made 20mm useless. 234/4 long 75 is also amazing too and I play it around BR6 often.

  • @_Opel_
    @_Opel_ 23 дня назад

    Mr. Spooky I hope you’re doing well, glad to hear you still laugh after surgery.

  • @rudatkatzn9171
    @rudatkatzn9171 22 дня назад

    The short 7,5cm is a doom cannon. One of the major fun contributors in the Neubaufahrzeug

  • @MorganLewis-z9v
    @MorganLewis-z9v 22 дня назад

    I feel like we need to see the entire puma lineup.. possibly the rattiest lineup that could possibly exist

  • @ghostboi7783
    @ghostboi7783 22 дня назад

    9:03 emboldened by the flame of ambition.

  • @insertfunnyjoke
    @insertfunnyjoke 22 дня назад

    Woah, my two favorite tanks ingame, in one video

  • @madmod
    @madmod 22 дня назад

    I love the sdkfz with the short 75. This seems more mobile and just as deadly

  • @palvelusmusic
    @palvelusmusic 22 дня назад

    2:28 bro just ricocheted off the rock formation 😭

  • @merchantman5635
    @merchantman5635 22 дня назад

    ngl i was thinking of a diffrent Q for qrf, love ya spooks

  • @viaferrata2769
    @viaferrata2769 22 дня назад

    My friend recently started playing War Thunder again with us and we were playing low tier Germany (2.3) and he asked me when the Stuart became a heavy tank, and I agree, that angle on the stuart is deadly for some reason without the HEAT.

  • @Sniper65615
    @Sniper65615 23 дня назад

    Would the wall ram joke, become a pun in this channel? When, Spookston gets carried away. With, talking about details/history?

  • @TheNis-v1w
    @TheNis-v1w 22 дня назад +2

    day 3 of asking spookston to get godmode with the 15cm SlG 33 b sfl in the german tech tree

  • @rawk7106
    @rawk7106 23 дня назад +1

    Speaking of rat tanks, attempt 25 at getting Spookston to play the Soviet rank 2 ZSU-37 ratmobile

  • @JonathanPan-d8u
    @JonathanPan-d8u 22 дня назад

    13:54
    Spookston just gets destroyed by 10 bombs

  • @KaminaCicada
    @KaminaCicada 22 дня назад

    I was thinking the same thing with the pizza joke. I too deserve a CAS moment for that.

  • @barrag3463
    @barrag3463 22 дня назад

    "I am very surpised this doesn't one shot BTs"
    The 75mm slingshot and it's HEAT are a little inconsistent, and the BTs' armor can be very silly at times.

  • @NicholasGhers
    @NicholasGhers 23 дня назад

    Spookston trying not to be a gremlin for 5 seconds. Challenge impossible