Is a Sand Rail Better in Glamis vs New Polaris RZR Pro R, Can-Am X3-RR? Big Turbo J35 Sand Car!
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2022
- First trip to Glamis Sand Dunes with a Sand Cars Unlimited 4 seat Sand Rail, powered by a Honda 3.5 Turbo V6. It wasn't without it's hiccups getting her going, but once we did... :) Should we get a new Polaris RZR Pro R, or Can-Am X3-RR?? Let us know what you think!
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“Side by side for smiles, sand rail for giggles”
Says it all!
In my opinion, sand rails have more of a soul than a factory built side by side. Sure side by sides are cool, but there's some more charm to a sand rail that a side by side will never have. Probably because outside of a small number of manufacturers, a lot of sand rails are home built.
Love this.. because that’s exactly how I feel about the sand rail. It’s special, and I won’t see another one exactly like it. The original paint job sold me. The time and effort that went into it. Everything done by hand, and built with pride. I feel honored to own it.
Very true. But some rails seem to fail alot not so much on the side by side. Bolth do have there bennies
Congratulations, that is also my dream, it will be nice seeing a sand rail in the channel
You won’t be disappointed when you get one. Just wait until you can drop the money on a good chassis and suspension setup with a whole lotta power!
Congrats bro! Been following your channel for a bit now. Looks like you guys always have a good time
Thank you brother! That means a lot!
I started out with
Sand rails with friends years ago. It's the only way to go. You've got I nice sand rail. But you have a good lady also. Don't forget to take care of her as well. Make her number 1 the sand rail number 2 👍 have fun !!
Thank you brother, I do my best!
The rail is a huge dream of mine as well. SxS look fun but I think the rail is the way to go for dune activities
It is! Get after it man!
Yep
Great channel. You guys rock!
Thanks!
Pro 4 R!!! Bro I love watching your videos! I can’t freaking wait for Halloween Weekend 2022!!!!!🤟🏼🤟🏼 (and the rest of season lol)
You and me both bro! Can’t wait for season to begin 🤙
nice car! sand rail in the dunes hands down. we started with a rzr 800 4 seater, sold it a year and a half later and picked up a tatum 4 seater with a n/a J30 v6. your gecko rd comment is so true lol. love the rail in the big dunes, the only downside for us is our 4 little kids don’t care for the rail because it’s “too fast” lol. looking forward to more videos with the new car from you 👍🏻
Congrats on the Tatum! Sounds like a nice setup. Yeah, next trip off gecko for sure haha love that side of Glamis. Just never camped over because I wasn’t familiar with it. Sounds like you’ll need another SXS? Haha awesome bro, thank you!
That's funny. My girls are getting older now but have never wanted to go slow. I've made grown ass men scream in my rail and the girls where in the back seat just chilling. I have to get down right reckless and scare my self before they get a bit of concern.
Great video brother!!
Thanks G 🤙
Pro R G Man! I know your build will be sweet!
The giggle factor is key.
The chicks will always like the rail because it is more uncommon and it will give them the butterflies/good times!
😂 I believe your theory is correct
A no brainer answer for me Sand Rail all the way! Give me a purpose built machine anyday of the week.
Bad ass bro!!!! He'll yeah!!
Great video! You are very lucky like me - we both have women that probably like the dunes more than we do! Love your channel - Keep up the great work as I know its a lot!
One of the reasons we’re getting married this year! Haha
Thanks man, and to you the same! We’ll have to get together and shoot a good ride out there next season. You’ve got a sweet car!
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel Congratulations! Get together anytime!
NICE CAR!
Sweet bro. I have a 2020 can am rr 4 seater and love it. I myself is curious as to what can am brings next. I say wait until next season. This season is already half way over plus you have a good ride.
Exactly what I’m thinking.. the RR 4 seater seems like a great ride, glad you’re liking it! We’ll see what they bring next.
Awesome POV. You have a beautiful Sand Rail, both in looks and performance. The Razor and Polaris just look like cloned toys. . ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
You need to ride in a 400 + horse power sxs lol. I can make you giggle all day long. Congrats on the rail
I have a sandrail. I love it. I would not buy a sxs for out there. It's safer for my family and I think it's more fun. It's also cheaper then a sxs for a family car. By the time you do doors, cage, tires.... and they weigh close to the same. A pro r is 2340lbs. My car is 2380 full of fuel. I have a 4 seat ls powered car. Naturally aspirated. I do less maintenance then my friends with sxs. I leave my coach and trailer down there in storage. Drop it off the middle of September and it comes home the end of March. That's the easiest way I have found.
You should try out the can-am x3 rr on out in the sand I love mine but I haven’t gotten it out to any sand.
My background is in refrigeration, not engines, but from my experience, when you have something seize up like that, the bearings have a rough spot. If it lands on it again, you'll be right back to where you started. Idk if you can rebuild it but I'd replace the bearings or the entire turbo
Congrats on the new car, a V8 sandrail is something I have always dreamed of getting one day too, hopefully I will get there someday 😎
Thanks brother! I know I’d love an LS motor, if not just for the sound and torque.. haha but I’m a sucker for a turbo, the spool and blow off just makes me smile.. haha when you get your V8 rail let’s do some racing, eh?
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel my bad, I just realized what motor, but that is still awesome, lol I actually have a sandrail in my garage but the motor blew up, it was only a VW motor though, but we can race if I ever get it fixed 😅
Dude, I had a 2276 VW dune buggy 15 years ago. Small two seater, thing was a rocket! Kept up with all the big HP cars in our family, until wheel travel was necessary 😂 .. she was a back breaker, but fast! Alright, I’ll look forward to it🤙
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel yeah I can see that, lol I will probably put another VW motor in it for now, the suspension was pretty smooth for when I drove it the first time
Hi,we have a series of UTV and ATV ,Truck and Jeep aftermarket accessories, now we are looking for some people to evaluate the polaris rzr pro front accent light , are you interested?
that's awesome that you got the sand rail. My dream vehicle is a pre-runner which I am finally somewhat building with my daily driver. Now i'd love to have a fully built pre-runner but the $150,000 or more right now is definitely out of my budget.
That’s awesome man. Love pre runners.. has a couple back in the day before the RUclipss.. would love one of those Tatum sand trucks someday. Good luck with the build. Hope it comes out bitchen!
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel the sand trucks are sick. Thank you sir
Need to see the follow up video to this when u had more time in the rail. It’s still new to you so there is a puppy love faze. Curious to see how you feel after having it for a season then jumping in someone’s 72” 200hp 4 seat sxs. Only saying the 72” 4 seater cause that’s the closest wheel base u can get to the rail for a fairer comparison. A 2 seat 64” 110hp just isn’t fair to compare a rail to.
Good point. Next season we’ll have to hop in someone’s new latest greatest 4 seat SXS and see how it compares.
I knew it 🤔…didn’t even realize you were there. I was at wash 16 😒🤙🏼
It was a good weekend! You guys stay for the game?
Awesome rail man! I had pretty much your exact rzr but a 2018 and sold that and bought a 21 can am x3 max rr and man wish I’d done it sooner that can am is a badass machine way more power and suspension is way better. But that new pro is badass too. And yes I think the same as you can am has something coming before long!
I do prefer the motor in my buddies Can-Am RR over the RZR for sure. But I like the RZR for the driver visibility and all around use for trails. Unless Can-Am changes the design of the current X3 I’d lean more towards the Pro R at the moment.
Agreed the can am definitely took me a little bit to get used to
Love watching your videos man. I just recently got rid of the RZR and picked up a Suspensions Unlimited Ultra Lite. I cannot wait to get it to the Dunes! My wife is skeptical because its a purely Glamis car but, Glamis is what I enjoy the most so why not be set up to get the most out of it? The way the market is going, people are always upgrading side by sides so I could always pick up another RZR but buy used this time and save a ton of money, just use it for trails. Keep up the good content!
you are going to love your SU i have same set up . one of the best buggy you can get
I have a 3000# 4 seater that I love in the small dunes. The rzr's can't keep up. Put a turning brake in it for the fun factor....game changer in the little stuff!
~jw
I’ve got the turning breaks, just need to use them next time!!
Is this not the sand rail “exact machine” that was on pawn stars a few seasons ago?
I'm picking up my first sandrail on Saturday. As far as your next side by side may I suggest Honda Talon 1000R-4. Looks amazing
Congrats man! Yeah, we’re talking about which model to get next. Thank you for the tip!
@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel very nice. I am just narrowing down some engines with automatic transmissions for the sand rail. Also just picked up an old honda odyssey fl350 and dropping a 90HP snowmobile engine in it tomorrow. Should rip
You should look into the new razor four-cylinder 244 stock
You need to take to Dumont Dunes!
That four cylinder is where it’s at
I was the 2nd owner of that sand rail. 2005 to 2020. Great car.
I’ve got your folder of documents in my filing cabinet. Thank you for preserving this beautiful car. We’ve only had the one trip, but she’s been seeing upgrades all summer long! Might reach out to you in the future if I have a question. Hope you don’t mind.
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel Please contact me. I am curious about the original motor. I also sent you an email.
Sandrails are sick. Just those transmission cost wooooo
They get pretty crazy depending how on which one you have!
Sand rail all the way at Glamis. Like the videos!
Yeah buddy!
If i was just hitting the dunes the rail all day long but im more of a trails and backwoods and some dunes so im sticking with my Rzr. Be safe and have fun!
I agree with you 💯! You do the same, thank you for the comment.
@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel Will do! 👍
No need to ask for others opinion, you already know the answer... Don't listen to what others say, you get what you want... don't be a follower be a leader.
Great vids! Wait for polaris to add turbo on the new 4 cylinder engine, or not.
Thanks man. Can’t wait to see the new RZR with a turbo out ripping!
built turbo YXZ? maybe a give you a little bit of both worlds... high HP and shifting like sand rail but in UTV form factor!
That thought had crossed my mind…!
Sand cars are cool, but tend to be one trick ponies. I guess it depends on how close you are to the sand though. I like being able to ride year round also, so the RZR it is for me and my family. We just upgraded to a Pro XP4 from an XP 4 1000. What was the yellow light flashing on your bikes dash during your ride?
We like riding year round too. We just prefer motorcycles and atv’s for the trails. That yellow light is the non functioning low gas light that hasn’t worked since I bought the bike lol
"One trick pony" I don't think so! I have taken mine over every pass except black bear in and around Silverton, Ouray, Telluride and Lake City. The only reason I won't go down black bear is turning radius and a high reverse gear. Mine is a pre-runner with a s-4d mendeola with the lowest gears I can get. It still does 120mph. I mostly use it like a jeep. Water crossings and big puddles suck ass. Other than that I kill anything but a dirt bike in capable hands. 24" of travel rolling on 37" tires tends to put things at the next level compared to any SxS or jeep. Just get the fuck out of my way because I'm coming in hot.
Very nice ride , have a few friends that have them and all ways working on them , I m a rzr guy and I like the new pro r , it’s wider , longer , stronger , beefy , 225 horsepower, the cockpit has a lot of room now , a lot of bells and whistles, just don’t buy the jurassic Park one lol 😂 congrats on the sand Rail ..
I agree on the Jurassic Park one… 🤣 seems to be the best choice currently. If I were going 2 seat I’d entertain the CanAm.
That’s basically what I meant about maintaining a sand rail. If you don’t keep up on the important parts, you’ll always be breaking and fixing things while your supposed to be having fun. Even though mines in great shape, I’ll be replacing cv’s and axles and little things that have been on the car for 7 to 10 years now. I’d rather spend the money bullet proofing it rather than fixing it.
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel Axles and CVs will last a lifetime if they are setup correctly and maintained. Ran a set for 14 years until I sold it. Its all about keeping the max combined angle in check.
@@boydco6587 you are absolutely correct i serviced my pro am 934s every aug before season kept my limit straps checked for stretch/ and even with my 600+ hp motor i never blew a CV . boots o ya i wiped out a few of those ,but never a CV
I agree sandrail is the way to go if you spend 90% in the dunes !! SxS is not meant for the dunes all the time !!!
The sand rail will live in the dunes, just need another SXS for the rest of our off-road adventures..
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel yup having both is best of both worlds!!👍
I’ve had both. My sand rail was more of a dual sport built for desert more than dunes. Sand rail was more fun in dunes and felt indestructible. My RZR is more work to drive in dunes and I’ve already rolled it first trip out.
Downside of your sand rail is your gonna spends $1000’s in maintenance every season. My Mendeola would only last for 4-5 trips. Also you can’t take that sand rail anyplace other than sand dunes. No more dirt or mountain riding.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m interested to see how things go maintaining the sand rail. I think some of it will depend on how it’s driven and routinely I take care of it at home. But we’ll all find out! Haha we do plan on having both in the future.
WHEN the rail needs maintenance, it's certainly pretty expensive, but it doesn't need it that often. I have a blown LS, and Mendi S4 and once I finally got it all tuned and HP bumped it's been maintenance free, just fluid changes, CV greasing and nut and bolt checks. I've spent 10's of thousands on the X3 HP boosts, Suspension upgrades and shock tuning. Both sand cars and sxs's have their merits. I love em both. I'll say this, however. I dune mid week and on off weekends, when the sand is pristine to mildly tracked. But when the sand is a mess, hands down the sxs is a far more comfortable duner. It handles the chop and the ruts way better than the big sand car. And the sxs especially shines in the cross ruts compared to the rail. My rail is an SU mid engine.
Pro XP...love mine
Great machine!
what year is your Suspensions unlimited ? buying one this week end hopefully V6 TURBO
2001 .. what year are you looking at?
OK love the shades where do I get them?
Bomber Eye Wear! Perfect for duning
I know it isn't a choice but have you considered the xp pro being that the pro R has no turbo i know its suppose crank out 225 hp but no power loss at elevation for the turbo machines
Haven’t really thought about that. Good point about the elevation though. Another reason to have a turbo for sure.
sand rail is for sure the best mostly because its fast and light unlike a razor it might be fasr but HEAVY i have both and a rhino and i can say sandrail is the best any day
I like the real sand rail. Real prerunners, real trophy trucks, real rock crawling rigs and dirt bikes. Everything else is vanilla pudding
It’s hard to compare a real car to the sxs’s! More power more suspension more fun!
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel even though I never really warmed up to sxs's enough to buy one. I appreciate the fact that they've made it possible for older people and people with disabilities to participate in this awesome lifestyle
Sand rail in the sand hands down!!! But for any terrain and universal riding the sxs!!! That sand rail wont fit in most trails but i guess thats why they call it a sand rail!!!!! 😂 But good buy!!! Salute king!!!
Yeah, don’t think I’ll be taking this to the mountains! Haha
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel 😂😂 😂!!!
What is the music I like it
think ive seen u guys on other u tube channels
Any concerns with trailer weight if you go with a 24' enclosed trailer?
A little concerned, but now enough not to do it. I’ll be pretty much at max capacity for the RV for sure.
@The Off Road Adventure Channel We have a similar gas RV with the godzilla v8. Says 8k towing but loaded down probably closer to 5-6k. I'd like to get a 20' enclosed someday. Stay safe out there and congrats on the new toy.
Never heard of a Godzilla v8. Sounds powerful though.. I’ll probably be around 8k total trailer weight loaded down. Might need some welds to reinforce the hitch area but should be doable. You guys stay safe as well, and have fun!
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇸🙏
Thank you for sharing.
Yeah man!
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel what gloves are those with the flag
It’s been a minute but think I found them on Amazon
Did you figure out the problem on the dirt bike im having the same problem?
In this case the lithium battery went bad, it was a dud. Fully charged, just literally took a dump. They replaced it under warranty and it fixed the problem.
It’s not even a question for you spend more on belts than you do fuel
Sandcar all the way just got mine,kind of looks like yours
Congrats man! 🍻
X-3 XRS Max RRS❤️💪
She's sick bud well done congrats but you still need a RZR for the trails .
100% agree! The sand rail has one use. We’re sure going to miss the RZR this year when we get into Utah. Excited to start shopping next season though.
Comparing a Sand Rail to a SXS is not a fair comparison. Your Sand Rail was built for one specific place. The Imperial Sand Dunes. That’s it! Your not going to take your sand buggy to Plater City, Superstition, Ocotillo, Johnson Valley, Barstow or Baja.
A SXS is more of a universal off road machine capable of riding on all types of terrain. While it can be tuned to be better for a specific terrain like the sand dunes, it’s not going to master it, like a purpose built vehicle would.
The Sand Rail takes more skill to drive as the driver has more going on with shifting & higher hp in most cases and some have cutting brakes.The SXS is going to be more user friendly as a first timer can start it and drive it.
The real test to see if your still in love with the Sand Rail will be after you pull the engine & trans to have the trans serviced (hopefully not needing a R&P) and after your have used good ol’ Bell Ray grease to rebuild your CV’s. Other then that the buggy should be fairly easy to service & prep.
I’ve had the buggy’s, prerunners etc. For me the versatility I get with the SXS is what wins me over, plus I have not tore down a CV joint & serviced it in years for a SXS.
Great insight here! Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences. My question, “which is better, what do you prefer”, is specifically for Glamis. I don’t plan to throw dirt tires on this car and head out to the desert, although we could I suppose. There are many places we love riding, especially in Utah, where we will be needing a SXS in the future. Funny you brought up CV’s.. just pulled them all yesterday to clean and inspect. Messy business :) haha
When ready next year for a UTV take a serious look at the Speed UTV. It should be out in the customers hands later this year and for next season. It’s going to get you as close to a buggy as a UTV can get with proper suspension design and geometry. It will come with 230hp stock or activate the speed key on E85 and get 300hp from the factory.
Regarding your CV’s. Make sure you pack them well with grease. Don’t get grease in the cv bolt holes and make sure your bolt threads are grease free when you assemble and tighten up.
Definitely a sand rail for Glamis!! Funco is the dream for me!! Also my opinion you should get an x3 RR by far best sxs out there at this point. New pro r looks good but I think can am is working on something big in my opinion. You need a sxs for all other riding , rail for Glamis and sxs for anything else. Good luck !!
Agreed! Good luck on the Funco! I’m sure you’ll get one some day. And yeah, I think Can-Am is going to drop something good 👌
Idk though, Can am really doesn't need to come out with a 50k machine to stay on top of sales.
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel Who knows maybe Can Ams big something is a car that doesn't break !!!
Haha
@@Barefoot-Bob hahaha. So true. Can am builds a cool machines but they definitely don’t build them to last long or take a tough beating. Kinda feel like Can am has some pretty good money invested in the aftermarket. They profit double time
a rzr with a hawk Ls setup ?. You guys are killing me , I had a sand car 556 rwhp Eyeball fab car total ripper , now after a 5 year break i am coming back with a sxs and it doesn't sound as if i am going to like it for dunes.
They work great in the dunes, loved our RZR. But after having had 556HP, you may feel a bit bored.. haha that’s one fast sand car you had!
One thing everyone overlooks with their buggies have the shocks professionally rebuilt and valved guaranteed your car can ride better than it's doing now
Yes Sand Rail But most people have to borrow to buy a car, and sand rails are hard to finance.
Wait for Robby Gordon's SPEEDUTV!!!!
If it ever arrives
Look at what Robby Gordon is building
I have a J35A4 turbo 4 seater, my wife will not ride with me. Has not been used in 3 years. She likes our Yamaha Rhino with easy slower rides and exploring trails. We are late 50's empty nesters. I am watching for a Yamaha R max for the Utah Piute ATV trail rides she likes in the autumn. I think all SXS are over priced.
Love Utah. Is that where you guys are from? What specs are your sand rail? I like it all ready!
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel We are from St George, Utah, but live in Phoenix. My sand rail is a turbo honda with the expensive 4 speed transaxle. We were camped next to Crazy John (Outfront motor sports guy that builds suburu motors for Funco etc) at Glamis and he gave me a ride in his green machine. I screamed like a little girl. Next year I bought one. Collier's Customs. I have had trouble getting the idle air to idle right and don't really know a Honda mechanic, so it just sits!
NOT EVEN A QUESTION
any sand rail or mini sand rail ALL DAY LONG
Love the sand rail!
What transmission is in your sand rail?
2D
I'm in the same boat, sold my XPT and X3 in 21. I'm hoping BRP doesn't change the chassis too much, sight lines were a worthy tradeoff for the handling. My wishlist is for a1630 Rotax from the SeaDoo (300hp closed loop cooling system). The 900 ACE is great overall but did lack low rpm torque until the turbo spooled. I do like the Pro R as well but it seems the proportions may be too big to be playful. One of the other channels parked it next to a short wheelbase Yukon and it wasn't much smaller. Yes the x3 is a limo but when I could choose either of my previous machines I always went for the X3. Great news is they both seem like a solid choice, maybe just avoid the Ronald McDonald launch edition color scheme.
Oh yea, really enjoy the dirtbike dune footage and ride videos.
Is it sequential? Or manual
Manual
Jo Fab and fix anything..just bring your $$$$
Sand Car for Glamis all day long and no helmets
It was nice not having a helmet on for sure! Regardless what he charges, pretty awesome he’s there in a pinch to keep you driving
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel
Yes he has saved a lot of weekends.
Definitely get a pro R as your SXS
It looks like it performs really well.
I heard you are getting a toy hauler. A motor home pulling a enclosed trailer is the best setup. Do t waste your money on a toy hauler.
Wash 13 VW 2180
A1
Honda talon 1000cc 4 seater
Sandrail all day don't even need to watch the video
X3 all the way!
I've never seen anyone jump a Rail..?
Speed 4 ...
Sandrail all the way...
I mean, damn hard to beat driving a sand rail in the dunes…
sounds like a fuel pump to me
can am still beats the pro4 r that thing is like 2600 lbs and sxs blog already blew their pro4r up doing some donuts....
Saw that.. looks like a good machine though. Tuff to say..
x3
Right on man!
Buy a speed utv
I’ve had both and a sand rail is 10x better. Wheelies are fun too.
Idk I think I like the sxs better cuz I ride all over I would not take that sand rail to hard pack it would get Ruined and i think the new sxs probably have more travel then the rails just my opinion
Great opinion man! This was more or less, what would you rather have if you only went to Glamis. Would you stay with the SXS?
@@TheOffRoadAdventureChannel Sand rails are a million times better when there running!! That’s the thing when there running to have a good season with a sand rail have to have 10 to 20 k put aside for if a Transaxle or something like that goes out but when there running can’t bet them if you have a lot of extra money you can have both sand rail and a sxs for when your sand rail breaks 😂
Sandrail is cool in all, but it can only do one thing. A SXS can do everything and it's 4wd.
This. 100% this.
I had several people tell me “why didn’t you just buy a rail” when they heard how much I spent on my X3. This is why.
Absolutely false. Had mine to Moab, Baja, AZ desert multiple times.
Wtf do you do for a living? 🤔
I have a career I’m grateful for 😉
That girl of yours…. Damn…
RZR just have way too much plastic for me
Don't buy a can am.
Not interested in a sand rail at all. All you can do is sand
Absolutely false. Had mine to Moab, Baja, AZ desert multiple times.
@@boydco6587 like you just said... In the desert(you know a desert is sand, right?). 🤦🤦🤦... Apparently you can't read and comprehend at the same time... Let's try this... Sand rail= sand driving only+ good time in sand= it's good in driving in the sand only 👍 and yes you are welcome for me figuring out this conundrum for you 💯
@@-CHaPPy- The desert is way more than sand....put the pipe down and go to bed.
@@boydco6587 ok dude acting like a 12 year old with your reply... "Sand rail"... It's in the name... 🤦🤦🤦
@@-CHaPPy-You must be pretty stupid if you think the desert is only sand.
Haven’t even watched the video yet but I’m going to go ahead and say sandrail 100% for Glamis. But I mean that’s kind of a gimmie. Sandrails we’re designed for dunes. SxS is a much better all around vehicle. You can take both a sandrail and a SxS to the dunes but you won’t see very many sandrails in Mammouth, Utah, Coloarado, Ocotillo Wells, Johnson Valley or a million other amazing places in the country where people are ripping. If you like being a one trick pony, sandrail is the way to go. If you like to explore more then one type of riding then go with a SxS. Now time to watch the video