I think there's sill a difference between looking at a mini screen on your lap in a barebones corolla vs. looking at a big screen that's at a fixed place in a car with lane assist and brake assist. It's a fair critique but not a good comparison
loud incorrect buzzer RR still uses physical buttons, and show no sign of slowing down. Same goes for Bentley, because they're luxury brands. Made for tradition > sport/modernity
@@theMelvinShowNo, you shouldn’t be peeling your eyes away at all, specially when those giant screens aren’t even angled toward the driver. The move to screens is only happening because it’s cheaper than manufacturing buttons and switches
I bet Elon Musk wanted it to be that way. The Tesla Truck is a perfect example of what happens if Elon had full control over his designs, very awful design and idea.
I saw Audi added a touchscreen with handwriting recognition. Can you tell me exactly how this is supposedly faster than a bunch of buttons on the steering wheel, or how that thing is gonna work any time that the road is less than perfect conditions and every bump on the road make you mistake what you're writing?
The worst part is that Tesla engineers are somehow making the interiors even more minimalistic by literally removing the signal stalk. The SIGNAL STALK. They replaced it with *touch sensors* on the left side of the wheel, which get reversed when you're in a roundabout. Not only that, but they also removed the wiper stalk and the gear lever, adding everything into the screen to cut costs. For a "technologically advanced" car, Teslas sure do lack a whole bunch of standard features and hard surface controls.
More points of failure and complexity lmao. Teslas are cars meant to be leased and thrown away, not kept long term, at least the post 2018 (ish) models are. The older Teslas were very nice in terms of quality, but newer ones are a shitfest
@@sarimsalman2698 I wouldn't say the old ones were quality either. They were built like toasters. That entire center console was held on by hopes and dreams.
Though this is also done by Ferrari/Lamborghini and other exotic car makers. I don't mind having driving controls on the wheel. But they probably should make left signal on the left and right on right. Basic common wiper controls are on the wheel or if you want, voice commands.
Depends how much. You don't need every single gauge for everything in your car, just the essentials. Speed, revs(if it's an ICE), fuel/charge, etc. are important to have on hand
@@Navoii. speed, revs, fuel, engine temp, oil pressure, batt/alternator voltage. Those are really the ones every dash should have for ice cars. Not to mention buttons for systems controls. Which every car should just have with screens or whatever being some secondary options.
the actual problem isnt the "soul" its that EVERYTHING is controlled by the touch screen in the middle, while actuall buttons would be wayyy better and more functional
Please don't. They were just as ugly in a different way. It was probably even worse then because of a lack of safety features. I was born in the 90's. I've owned 80's cars. They're not that good.
While I've accepted that touchscreens in cars are here to stay, I'm a firm believer that such touchscreens should strictly be limited to the infotainment system. Anything beyond that is too much
Yeah that’s cool and all but I would much rather have my steam library right next to me so I can bang out a quick game of csgo while going 80 on the motor way 😁😁😁 (joke) but thanks for watching !
Without going full conspiracy nutter, I do feel like Tesla's have a very "eat the bugs" kinda energy to them. The car was the product of a techbro, his army of yes-men and software engineers and it shows.
Yeah can’t say more other than I agree. Thanks for watching. And have fun owning nothing and having your rented electric car shut off at the drop of a hat! 😁
Recently, i got into a discussion with a friend of mine about the tesla interiors. he never owned a car and was more of the city type, so i was curious about his opinions on car interiors and he always went with the tesla interiors even when i obscured the steering wheel, he claimed it was "sleek" and "clean" no noise and such, and it baffled me so much at the time and still does, i feel like we are being the loud minority when market trends seem to really insist on making things empty for the sake of being empty.
Yeah that's the problem, most people don't care about design and don't try to look into it and understand more about it which makes them easily impressed by shallow gimmicks like tesla interiors.
@@patrickbateman331yeah, the market loves shallow gimmicks. It hates anything with actual character. I’m tempted to say it’s a result of the malaise era, but I feel like it’s more down to the shortening attention spans of my generation (I’m gen Z) who actually buy into cheap gimmicks for the sake of a gag
Let's be honest, the only reason minimalistic design took off is because it's cheaper to design and produce for companies, and the worst part is they aren't any cheaper despite that.
Yeah a family member of mine had one and I must agree I think its been minis style for a while and its def unique and interesting. Thanks for watching!
@@sarimsalman2698 There's a difference between quirky and just bad. Atto 3 is a good example of a cool quirky design, the Mini meanwhile is a good example of a bad design.
My aunt’s Toyota Highlander had a screen, but it only controls the volume and GPS maps. Around the screen are physical buttons that can easily control the car’s “things” (I don’t know the terms for all of it). I love that car it’s so cool to me when I first drive it
As a guy who was brought home from the maternity ward as a newborn in a 2007 Renault Clio 1.6, I can comfortably say that I have an incomprehensible appreciation for this car.
My '14 F250 platinum is my ideal interior. It has a touchscreen and hands-free voice control, but it still has all the buttons and knobs plus a faux-wood trim. Looks classic with enough tech to still be relevant. I tried a Tesla once, but couldn't wrap my head around having just a single screen in the middle.
I am happy my 2023 VW Taigo still has dials and buttons on the dashboard and wheel. I only ever need to use the touchscreen to make calls or check the navigation. It is a nice blend of new and old. Has all the new tech found in modern cars but still has buttons where needed and don’t need to take my eyes off the road.
yeah see thats a fair point, but having to use the screen and take your eyes off the road just to turn the air conditioner up in a tesla is just still. thanks for watching!
Because they're a budget friendly family car brand. Not everything is made to suit car enthusiasts' liking. If you want to get a car with soul, go get one, but the world doesn't revolve around you.
my old man drives a 1996 peugeot 306 caravan to this day, says he will never ever upgrade, just because he cant stand to look at an another screen in his life
The Subaru SVX has an interior that both gives me nostalgia and the feeling that I'm back in one of the old libraries with that colored carpet, or those old buses with the jazz wave seats. We need design like that back in all vehicles, unique designs that give you that feeling. The vaporwavey stuff especially is beautiful.
I honestly dont care about nostalgia, i just miss practical interiors, with easy accessible buttons and knobs, so i can fast and easly operate my car, without looking away from the road. Teoreticly now we have voice assistants, but they are annoying more often than working. I dont want to have to search through settings on touchscreen just to change radio station. I dont want to have to update my car, just to get somewhere. Old cars gave us freedom, new are taking it away.
my Grandpa's 1985 Ford F-250's interior has so much more personality and charm than that tesla's ever will. And it's been chillin' out in our pasture since 2000! (the inside is still incredibly clean, btw.)
maybe I'm a little biased cause i drive a 9-3 but i think SAAB's interiors during that century aged better than most, especially ones with a wooden trim.
I completely agree but I think it all comes down to the cost. It's probably cheaper to go with minimalism and put a touch screen in the middle of the car instead of designing and manufacturing 50 different buttons. I can't even imagine myself ever buying a brand new car because even with all this plastic, minimalism and other crap, cars are still crazy expensive.
This reminded me how much i love the interior of the 1989 Buick Reatta. also banger video this is the first time i've seen anything from your channel and its fire i'm subing for sure
4:24 SAAB cars have all the instruments tilted towards the driver, I have a 9.3 2004 convertible and I noticed it when I sat in the passenger seat for the first time
I have a ‘77 porsche and I cannot imagine ever being comfortable in another car made after the 2000s. The seats are so incredibly cushy and the original interior is in amazing condition. Looks a million times better than modern cars
Physical button are a good thing. Sure, a touchscreen is nice to use for GPS, but that literally the last placement I want for the controls for my heated seats. And don't even get my started on the nonsense that is placing the speedometer in the top corner of a tablet instead of the middle of the steering wheel. Speed is the parameter that drivers check the most often so the last thing you want is looking to your right constantly instead of looking at the road.
Mate im 100% with u. My stepdad had a Mercedes S Class W140 (S500) which had the best interior ever. It looked so good with all that wood. My favorite interiors nowadays are defenitely the sporty ones, that look like a fighter cockpit and fit like a glove. A really special pick is also the Nissan 300zx interior, which looks at night like directly coming from a 80s science fiction movie! And Teslas + all minimalistic cars are pain to my eyes
modern day car designs will be nostalgic to some people eventually, calling something nostalgic isnt a good characteristic, its a vague feeling that could be applied to anything depending on the person. and that first image, that car is clearly from the 70s if not earlier, like how old were your parents if that was the type of car they were driving in the 2000s when you were growing up? and why the fuck youtubers always give specific scenarios that only apply to them and act as if everybody was the same? i had a gameboy color.
I think the point is cars and everything today with the "minimalist" design feel soul-less and lack personality (too corporate). It's kind of boring and the nostalgia probably won't hit as hard 30 years from now because there's not much to remember about it.
@@americanfreedomworldpeace I think this is definitely some truth to this. taste is ultimately subjective, and I don't think all styles will feel "modern" forever, but some design styles can absolutely "come into their own" better than others. as an example, I have zero nostalgia for the early 2000's body/interior styles. maybe its because I'm not old enough but I don't see how cars that look like they took design ques from an egg would age as well as even the blocks that came from the 80's.
minimalism never ages well. tasteful maximalism will. I don't want 1 screen and a complete lack of anything else in my interior, I wand cool doodads and dials and whatnot for that 1930s airplane cockpit feel
My '82 Firebird SE has a maroon interior. Multiple tones of maroon on the door cards with black plastic and a leather wrapped steering wheel. It's a very subtle yet comforting interior, honestly we need that back
my 2015 mitsubishi outlander is still more oldschool than new. dreading the day i have to part with it. i specifically wanted a car that i could feel the road through the steering wheel (this one, compared to the completely dead steering of a hyundai santafe, felt like a go kart), a leaver hand brake, a v6 and awd, but wasn't expensive. it was the perfect car to me.
I agree that 90s interior where superior, but in modern Premium class cars like the 2017 7 series there where just so many buttons everywhere and so low down that it could be hard to differentiate while driving. My dad dirves one and even after 5 years of ownership he still doesnt have the muscle memory down. I think that is the appeal of a touch screen. Maybe its because i grew up after 2000.
Bro that nostalgia. I remember sitting in my dad’s 89 Cadillac, he got for 1k in the early 2000s. We loved that car. I’m almost 30, and I refuse to get a car that doesn’t have buttons for climate control or anything else. My 2021s still has a shifter, and the touchscreen it has is only for the camera and radio/bluetooth.
I have a 1948 Buick Roadmaster and I gotta say it’s way more comfortable than any new car. The bench seats feel like you’re sitting on the living room couch.
I LOVE the firethorn red and wood interior of my 77 el camino. And yes, that bench seat is like a sofa, great for when you want to sneak out of a wedding for a quick nap before going back inside.
I used to feel a similar way, but that changed once I actually tried a Tesla. The more cars I have had the opportunity to drive, the clearer it became to me that there is no such thing as a soulless car, let alone a soulless interior. All manufacturers have different approaches to the identity of their vehicles and the experience they wish to create for their users. And somehow, at that moment, that Tesla interior felt just right. In keeping with the rest of the car, for better or for worse. Sure, you can complain about how complicated it all seems, but it felt no harder to me than learning the the button placements for all the functions on my Audi. Hell, even the whole on screen shifting thing feels more natural to me than a lot of the other stuff I've encountered. (Specifically mercedes' column shifters which Tesla incidentally used before. I hop between cars a lot and these always confuse me for a few seconds.) Is the whole minimalistic trend overhyped. Yes. But I also think we enthusiast tend to judge anything new unfairly. And nothing illustrates this point more than the very start of the video. Yes, old interiors make us feel a certain way because that is what we grew up with, but it will be the same for Tesla kids eventually. All these same memories we've had are being made today for the new generation in these interiors, which will have the same meaning to them as 80's, 90's and 2000's interiors have for us. This comment is way too long so I'll stop here.
Totally agree with the future nostalgia bit, but couldn't disagree more about the different car identities. Our family used to travel to lots of places where we would typically rent a random car, so I also have some experience with different makes and models, and most of the time the only words that came to my mind about the design(both interior and exterior) were "generic" and "bland". Like, if it wasn't for the emblem on the stsering wheel you could barely tell whether you were sitting in a Volkswagen, a Citroen or a Hyundai. The design itself isn't bad, but it isn't good either-it's just standard materials made into standard shapes in a standard configuration and colours, so the only thing I can tell is "well, it's definitely a car". Of course, there are still some automakers that create their unique designs like mercedes, mini and to some extent Honda, but generally speaking cars today are too similar and most importantly too neutral. Tesla's design is unique, but to me it's painful because it feels like they just took this "generic neutrality" and amplified it to the maximum as if you moved from an already minimalistic apartment into a room filled with bleak-coloured cubes as furniture
As for the buttons vs touchscreen, learning all the buttons designations may be harder than figuring out the apps on a giant tablet, but the point is when you have actually learnt all of this you can, well, just click a button you need in a split second and it will do what you want, whereas on a tablet you still going to need to swipe and touch and scroll and touch and swipe untill you reach the option you need. It just requires more manipulations
I do like the Tesla's instant torque delivery, but that isn't unique to their cars, it's just an electric car thing. If I wanted a more "eco-friendly car" (That's not a thing lmao) or a mire fuel efficient car, I would get a Hybrid like the Prius, not an electric
So true. Look at 1970s and 1980s American luxobarges - absolute beauty. Everything designed for comfort and ease of use. Everything within arm's reach, plush seats, colorful wood paneling and tons of color options inside. Every single one was different! I have a 1989 Ford F250 and the entire interior is completely blue with one wood trim ring around the gauge cluster. It's so fun to look at, and everyone that sees it thinks it's cool.
As a 2000s 3 series owner the design of the car holds up hella well today unlike it's 5 series counterpart. Though seeing older Japanese cars in places like Pick N Pull really made me question how on earth did they fumble the bar so hard in the early 2000s.
I bought a MK1 Audi TT not too long ago and woooowww what an interior! The whole thing has a coherent and unique design, it’s comfortable, everything feels good and high quality, and there are SWITCHES AND BUTTONS FOR THE THINGS YOU NEED TO USE WHILE DRIVING
Every single second was a fact in this video, i hate all the ultra minimized black interiors we have today- i actually get amazed looking at 60s/70s/etc interiors being literally entirely bright blue, do people just not enjoy things any more? theres plenty of cool futuristic designs and gorgeous modern interiors but when bandwagoners go "teslas are gay" its hard to disagree when the cars are genuinely soulless. i feel like every decade of cars had a certain theme going for so long, with 2000s being the last with the beginnings of shifting away in the 2010s
, do people just not enjoy things any more: I guess companies want us to be miserable these days. and yeah the teslas are what set me off about this topic and at first I thought it was all modern cars but actually some of them look really cool. thanks for watching !
Born in 03' but I'm poor so my family has always had older cars. I remember growing up people would always dog on the 80's - 90's cars for being ugly and boxy but I love them now lol. First car I ever bought was a 98' Sebring convertable and you can start to see the minimalist influences with the grey and plastic-y interior, but it still had some personality to it. Especially with that purple/maroon finish on the outside 👌 But it still had leather seats and a nice practical dash with no weird screens or hyper-minimalism. After I sold that, I bought an 06' Jeep Liberty and it surprisingly has a less futuristic look than the Sebring. A shiny cobalt blue finish with an interior of tan leather seats and matching vinyl console just looks really nice together. And the dash is a little minimalist but still practical and less digital than the Sebring (probably because an SUV is supposed to be more practical than a convertible). But even those two cars are amazing compared to the current ones. These new ones look so depressing, have no character, and makes the car more difficult and less safe to use. I am not looking forward to the day when 2000's and previous cars become scarce and all the modern monstrosities take their places
Putting games on a Tesla screen is one of the most abominable ideas I've ever heard. Is that officially supported or is it something you have to do with 3rd party software?
I own a 1989 500SE Mecedes Benz with premerger AMG parts on it. The interior is absolutely incredible. Everytime I drive it I feel like a baller, and the seats are so comfortable I could drive it all day. Every convience item I need is within close reach and logically placed. Its just an incredibly beauitful and thoughtful interior. I own two other modern performance luxury cars and they dont even compare
Another one of "It used to be better"... Tho I'm with those to be honest, however it is useless, in a perspective of time there's a chance that it'll be lost after few centuries.
i remember playing that exact route in pokemon sapphire on my way home from a summer vacation. My friend and I where young, and had never completed a pokemon game. We wanted to see if we could do it together. My game cartridge had a flat battery, so my friend and i kept the game powered on for days, making sure the console charged throughout the nights. When we had to head home, we used a charger plugged into the cigarette lighter in my family's crystler minivan to keep the game alive. Nearing the end of our 2 hour car journey, grinding the levels of our pokemon, my family made a stop to say hi to my grandparents. I don't remember if we ever won that rival battle or if the DS died unplugged in the heating car. That route made an impression, and i loved that minivan's interior. Nice video!
imagine being a lead designer in tesla just for everyone to call your design “elon musk’s stupid design”. I really don’t get the hate behind tesla as it is solely aimed towards elon musk, you dislike the design, alright then, hate the designer. i don’t get why people act as if musk is not just a soulless ceo.
It is his design, Elon Musk has the final say on how the design should be. Someone designed the car but he made all the final edits. Just like an executive producer of a movie who can override the director and producer and basically has the final say, though they are not the creative mastermind of the film.
not saying you its good i love older interiors im absolutely getting a car with no goddamn screen in it but it is cheaper to just have software do everything than to make physical buttons
I've got a 2014 Mustang and I feel like the interior, while not as nice as the ones from the late 60s, is leaps and bounds ahead of whatever is going on now. I've still got cds and such stored in the cupholders, as I've never bothered to figure out how to connect my phone. It's comfortable, has real buttons, and is very pleasant to drive.
Im 17 years old, and my daily driver is a 1998 jeep cherokee. It has no air, no carpet, and burns oil on cold starts. I love it though, ill never get rid of it. I plan to keep it alive for as long as possible. Compared to that, sitting in a modern car just feels so overwhelming. All the screens everywhere. I hate it
2:36 What did she say? I spent a third of my childhood in North Carolina, but I can't for the life of me understand what she said. It sounded like, "Pretty soon, you'll be driving it's country," but that can't be right. Someone who's fluent in Southern, please help me!
Im also concerned about the fact that, since you control most of the car in a screen, what would you do if that screen somehow failed?, how would you control the car?
I love the button tech on older cars. I had an '01 Audi A4 for a couple years and that dash looked like the second officer's panel of a 727. It was glorious!
One interior that is quite appealing to me is the one from the Alfa Romeo 159/ 159 Sportwagen. In full beige, it looks amazing. A few "modern" gizmos, yes, but nothing too out of the ordinary. Even if you replace the original radio with a 2din, it still looks great and balanced.
X-type mentioned. Still miss mine. It was a 2006 and had a touchscreen, which is almost delightfully retro in its crappiness and was basically useless, every control on the screen had a corresponding button, but I absolutely loved the brown and beige leather interior. I now have a 2011 E-class which has somewhat boring fake black leather with silver accents, but thank god for no touchscreen.
I know I talked bad about it in the video but touch screen is kinda hit and miss, when I was a kid in my mums yaris it was kind of a cool novelty but I wouldnt want one today. thanks for watching!
I drive a 2001 Mazda 626. Simple radio with no screen, glowing green gauges in the dark, oscillating airvents, dials and buttons. It just works. No technological frills, only perfect handling and driving feel.
I fully agree, the 2010’s were the best area imo, the level of quality and prestige that you got in high end cars is immaculate and they still had a lot of character. Top quality cars looked like Rolexes
The only reason for this minimalism I could think of, is to reduce distractions for the driver and make them focus on the road more. To prevent accidents. Besides, Retro cars kinda look better then modern cars. In my opinion.
I think haptic feedback is very important for us fleshbags. The touch, the click, the sound switches make. You just can't get that with an ipad hotglued to your dashboard.
The worst part about Tesla interiors isn't how soulless they are. It's that every other car company thinks it's the pinnacle of automotive design and is trying to copy them.
Honestly, I want a car that's from the 80's but runs perfectly and everything. Every car my partner and I had were hand-me-down'd by family members were kinda.. run-down junk cars on their last legs so.. I hope we can buy a good one, one day, so we don't have to worry about it breaking down or something. lol
Yep. Hate those interiors. I’m 29 and chose to buy a 03 Volvo s80 to avoid a car payment and I love having actual buttons to press and hear. So satisfying and my headlights have lil wipers that still work.
Well, some working class mercedes have (or had until 2015) wood looking accents in the car. It probely is only plastic, but it still has the same surface feeling and is a nice contrast to the rest of the car wich is pretty modern. (I was talking specificly about the family car version of the E class, the version with a screen.)
I had a ls400 and now a ls430 and the mix of leather and wood. It’s truly amazing. For the ls the wood used in each car comes from the same tree so the wood grain looks the same.
We also had dark and hopeless looking black plastic interiors in the 80s and 90s, although I agree that Tesla is just so cold and impersonal. In my opinion the most beautiful interior you can buy on a modern car is the one of the current Bentley Continental GT, which takes a lot of inspiration from those older cars you mentioned without making it look dated.
No physical buttons is just impractical. But it's not like you NEED anything but practicality in a car's interior, so simplicity isn't a bad thing. The "soul" you mention so much can be found in simplicity too.
I like analog. Always have always will. I like buttons. Hard to break. Never freezes or lags. Been in Rivians and they are nice and I’ve been in teslas they are also nice. Either one works but I prefer analog.
I honestly think about the topic every single time I see a modern car interior (window, windshield, internet - wherever). I absolutely DESPISE the "replace dashboard with an ipad/screen" thing. First off, for aesthetic purposes, it looks absolutely inferior to real dashboard, no matter what picture you stock behind those soulless indicators. My dad drives a 2014 MB E class and its dashboard is just gorgeous. It has small displays, but they're used in conjunction with a really quirky and interesting looking set of mechanical indication. And the interior overall is a bomb. My bottom line and, frankly, obe of most beloved interior aesthetics are early 00' Nissan interiors. I grew up having family rides in a 2002 Maxima and drive a 2004 Patrol, and I feel really comfortable and nostalgic in that kind of interior. It's not as gorgeous as Mercedes, had fewer belts and whistles, but it's really well composed and stands up to this day as really solid. Another point: aren't these huge ahh displays distracting? Traditional minimal light dashboard is dull for a reason - you only look at it too get the most essential information about your speed, engine, parking break, etc. It's not flashy, it knows its place. And then the whatever modern car. Big flashy display and obnoxious controls on a side ipad. How the F are you supposed to control it? In a traditional interior you can physically memorize buttons and switches and operate blind if you so desire, distraction is there, but it's minimal. You want a flashy bit? Heads up projection on windshield, where you should be looking anyway. That's the stuff. It's ergonomic, non distracting, looks cool and IS cool. TL;DR: minimalist design sucks, old school cool, screen dashboards go away Rant over
2010: dont use your phone while driving
2024: you have to use touch screen for every single function of car
A step back in car safety
I think there's sill a difference between looking at a mini screen on your lap in a barebones corolla vs. looking at a big screen that's at a fixed place in a car with lane assist and brake assist. It's a fair critique but not a good comparison
loud incorrect buzzer
RR still uses physical buttons, and show no sign of slowing down. Same goes for Bentley, because they're luxury brands. Made for tradition > sport/modernity
@@theMelvinShowNo, you shouldn’t be peeling your eyes away at all, specially when those giant screens aren’t even angled toward the driver. The move to screens is only happening because it’s cheaper than manufacturing buttons and switches
@@Noredlac_ I don’t disagree with you I‘m just saying the comparison sucks
Imagine not having to take your eyes of the road to operate the climate controls
lol
I bet Elon Musk wanted it to be that way. The Tesla Truck is a perfect example of what happens if Elon had full control over his designs, very awful design and idea.
When the screen on radio, you have to exist and go different app to turn on wiper, how about 5 seconds ads every app opening. All I need is 1 button.
I saw Audi added a touchscreen with handwriting recognition. Can you tell me exactly how this is supposedly faster than a bunch of buttons on the steering wheel, or how that thing is gonna work any time that the road is less than perfect conditions and every bump on the road make you mistake what you're writing?
the scroll wheels on the steering wheel control climate
The worst part is that Tesla engineers are somehow making the interiors even more minimalistic by literally removing the signal stalk. The SIGNAL STALK. They replaced it with *touch sensors* on the left side of the wheel, which get reversed when you're in a roundabout.
Not only that, but they also removed the wiper stalk and the gear lever, adding everything into the screen to cut costs.
For a "technologically advanced" car, Teslas sure do lack a whole bunch of standard features and hard surface controls.
More points of failure and complexity lmao. Teslas are cars meant to be leased and thrown away, not kept long term, at least the post 2018 (ish) models are. The older Teslas were very nice in terms of quality, but newer ones are a shitfest
@@sarimsalman2698 I wouldn't say the old ones were quality either. They were built like toasters. That entire center console was held on by hopes and dreams.
Though this is also done by Ferrari/Lamborghini and other exotic car makers. I don't mind having driving controls on the wheel. But they probably should make left signal on the left and right on right.
Basic common wiper controls are on the wheel or if you want, voice commands.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 It makes sense with Ferrari is driver focused and you use the paddles to shift
@@sarimsalman2698 and the left signal Is on left side and right side is on the right side of the steering wheel
"minimalism" Is not a design philosophy that makes practical sense for vehicle information and control systems
Well then, why the touch screen that you have to take your eyes off the road to use?
Idk what you're doing while you're driving. I only really need my speedometer
Depends how much. You don't need every single gauge for everything in your car, just the essentials. Speed, revs(if it's an ICE), fuel/charge, etc. are important to have on hand
@@crayola_captain exactly
@@Navoii. speed, revs, fuel, engine temp, oil pressure, batt/alternator voltage. Those are really the ones every dash should have for ice cars.
Not to mention buttons for systems controls. Which every car should just have with screens or whatever being some secondary options.
the actual problem isnt the "soul" its that EVERYTHING is controlled by the touch screen in the middle, while actuall buttons would be wayyy better and more functional
And much more convenient as well
Females would find buttons as "toxic masculinity" hence the screens, because of ESG scores
@@Exodia_Misogynist what are you on about?
@@avieron he does not get any vitamin D
@@Exodia_MisogynistFellas, is is lesbian to have touchscreens?
as someone who was born in the 2000s please bring back the 1980s car designs
I'm speaking for the 2000-2003 homies in this video, thanks for watching!
Exactly, not everything needs to be Sci Fi Futuristic, sometimes old is good, you can add improvements but never replace honestly
im an 07er and i agree
@@primus0348THIS
Please don't. They were just as ugly in a different way. It was probably even worse then because of a lack of safety features. I was born in the 90's. I've owned 80's cars. They're not that good.
While I've accepted that touchscreens in cars are here to stay, I'm a firm believer that such touchscreens should strictly be limited to the infotainment system. Anything beyond that is too much
At least the AC should have easily reachable and distinguishable buttons.
Yeah that’s cool and all but I would much rather have my steam library right next to me so I can bang out a quick game of csgo while going 80 on the motor way 😁😁😁 (joke) but thanks for watching !
when you have to watch a youtube tutorial to turn on the damn ac, you know we went wrong somewhere.
I know right. My uncle rented a Tesla when he visited us and I had no clue what I was doing. Good design is easily navigable and self descriptive
Without going full conspiracy nutter, I do feel like Tesla's have a very "eat the bugs" kinda energy to them. The car was the product of a techbro, his army of yes-men and software engineers and it shows.
Yeah can’t say more other than I agree. Thanks for watching. And have fun owning nothing and having your rented electric car shut off at the drop of a hat! 😁
And I thought communism was supposed to be the eat bugs and own nothing while being happy about it ideology.
@bigkirbyhj666 who told you that bs?
@@hellishsavitar7522 I couldn't give names, but mostly trolls. Also that was a /s comment.
@@bigkirbyhj666
In a way yes but it’s the neo liberal dystopia rn which does take some inspiration from
Im an advocate for bringing back the 1970s denim car
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"Honey we're late get into the Jar"
@@Rapshout typical anti ev propaganda sponsored by toyota
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@@TheGiggler333ayy fellow regular cars reviews enjoyer, specifically the AMC ambassador brougham sedan ,if dad get up noise was a car.
@@nou7401 The only pathetic one here is you lmao
Recently, i got into a discussion with a friend of mine about the tesla interiors.
he never owned a car and was more of the city type, so i was curious about his opinions on car interiors
and he always went with the tesla interiors even when i obscured the steering wheel, he claimed it was "sleek" and "clean"
no noise and such, and it baffled me so much at the time and still does, i feel like we are being the loud minority when market trends seem to really insist on making things empty for the sake of being empty.
Yeah that's the problem, most people don't care about design and don't try to look into it and understand more about it which makes them easily impressed by shallow gimmicks like tesla interiors.
literally the iphone of cars
@@patrickbateman331yeah, the market loves shallow gimmicks. It hates anything with actual character. I’m tempted to say it’s a result of the malaise era, but I feel like it’s more down to the shortening attention spans of my generation (I’m gen Z) who actually buy into cheap gimmicks for the sake of a gag
@@Rapshout Nah, iPhones have some semblance of build quality and quality control.
@@nucleartime nah, theres a reason they're only popular in the usa
Let's be honest, the only reason minimalistic design took off is because it's cheaper to design and produce for companies, and the worst part is they aren't any cheaper despite that.
facts
I feel minis have a touch of personality, their new models having circular screens instead of the rectangular ones we usually see
Yeah a family member of mine had one and I must agree I think its been minis style for a while and its def unique and interesting. Thanks for watching!
The circular screen is abhorrent... Looks terrible. @@Rapshout
Hey at least it's unique and different. Mini has always tried to keep the car's quirky identity @@biggiebagel
@@sarimsalman2698 There's a difference between quirky and just bad. Atto 3 is a good example of a cool quirky design, the Mini meanwhile is a good example of a bad design.
Too bad Minis are bad cars
Why i have to touch the screen multiple times just to turn on the fan. I only want the interior like WRC or WEC cars just switch to do things.
exactly so stupid!
My aunt’s Toyota Highlander had a screen, but it only controls the volume and GPS maps. Around the screen are physical buttons that can easily control the car’s “things” (I don’t know the terms for all of it).
I love that car it’s so cool to me when I first drive it
Having to use a touch screen in a car for anything other than media and entertainment is really fucking stupid
As a guy who was brought home from the maternity ward as a newborn in a 2007 Renault Clio 1.6, I can comfortably say that I have an incomprehensible appreciation for this car.
Man I wish we had Renault and Peugeot in the USA. Their older models are fantastic and I'd love to own a Clio or a 106
Were you conceived in the back as well?
My '14 F250 platinum is my ideal interior. It has a touchscreen and hands-free voice control, but it still has all the buttons and knobs plus a faux-wood trim. Looks classic with enough tech to still be relevant.
I tried a Tesla once, but couldn't wrap my head around having just a single screen in the middle.
I am happy my 2023 VW Taigo still has dials and buttons on the dashboard and wheel. I only ever need to use the touchscreen to make calls or check the navigation.
It is a nice blend of new and old. Has all the new tech found in modern cars but still has buttons where needed and don’t need to take my eyes off the road.
yeah see thats a fair point, but having to use the screen and take your eyes off the road just to turn the air conditioner up in a tesla is just still. thanks for watching!
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I fw you bro thanks for watching
Tesla is the definition of soulless design. All of their designs look like something a kid can draw, and their interiors are basic and cheap
I truly dont know what brought them to do it
Old interiors is wayy more cheap and unreliable than the teslas interiors y’all stupid as hell🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀
@@Rapshout Money
Because they're a budget friendly family car brand. Not everything is made to suit car enthusiasts' liking.
If you want to get a car with soul, go get one, but the world doesn't revolve around you.
@@Navoii. toddlers bruh🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
reject modernity embrace 1980s mercedes interior design
my old man drives a 1996 peugeot 306 caravan to this day, says he will never ever upgrade, just because he cant stand to look at an another screen in his life
As a computer nerd, I understand.
@@NineS5 yeee its that one, that stash is game
@@qwertykeyboard5901 Yeah, as someone who works in IT that resonates with me at a spiritual level.
The Subaru SVX has an interior that both gives me nostalgia and the feeling that I'm back in one of the old libraries with that colored carpet, or those old buses with the jazz wave seats. We need design like that back in all vehicles, unique designs that give you that feeling. The vaporwavey stuff especially is beautiful.
Honestly one of the most recent cars with a stunning interior is the Honda E, seriously it looks amazing with the wood
You really find the Honda E's interior to be amazing? Straight up looks like a table with screens stuck onto it.
It’s good but I still don’t like it completely
I honestly dont care about nostalgia, i just miss practical interiors, with easy accessible buttons and knobs, so i can fast and easly operate my car, without looking away from the road. Teoreticly now we have voice assistants, but they are annoying more often than working. I dont want to have to search through settings on touchscreen just to change radio station. I dont want to have to update my car, just to get somewhere.
Old cars gave us freedom, new are taking it away.
my Grandpa's 1985 Ford F-250's interior has so much more personality and charm than that tesla's ever will. And it's been chillin' out in our pasture since 2000! (the inside is still incredibly clean, btw.)
Grab a wrench and a vacuum cleaner then.
"Why do we care about aesthetic on space, they don't need to be sleek, they need to be functional."
-Tobias Frewer, Watch Dogs: Bad Blood
The 04-06 Pontiac GTO has one of the best looking interiors of this century
just looked it up I like the colour schemes a lot, reminds me of an old racing game I used to play on ps2. thanks for watching!
maybe I'm a little biased cause i drive a 9-3 but i think SAAB's interiors during that century aged better than most, especially ones with a wooden trim.
Also the second gen Dodge Ram.
After seeing jaguars 'rebrand' in a way...this video ages scarily well 😢
I completely agree but I think it all comes down to the cost. It's probably cheaper to go with minimalism and put a touch screen in the middle of the car instead of designing and manufacturing 50 different buttons. I can't even imagine myself ever buying a brand new car because even with all this plastic, minimalism and other crap, cars are still crazy expensive.
Then just ditch the touchscreen and go all analog. Cheaper, and more usable car.
This video makes me appreciate my Chevy Bolt's interior so much more.
4:15 Saab had been doing this for ages
This reminded me how much i love the interior of the 1989 Buick Reatta. also banger video this is the first time i've seen anything from your channel and its fire i'm subing for sure
4:24 SAAB cars have all the instruments tilted towards the driver, I have a 9.3 2004 convertible and I noticed it when I sat in the passenger seat for the first time
Not as pronounced as in the supra but the e36 dash is also like this
I love channels like these contemplating trends and developments of the car industry
Keep up the good work 🧡🤘
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I have a ‘77 porsche and I cannot imagine ever being comfortable in another car made after the 2000s. The seats are so incredibly cushy and the original interior is in amazing condition. Looks a million times better than modern cars
Physical button are a good thing. Sure, a touchscreen is nice to use for GPS, but that literally the last placement I want for the controls for my heated seats. And don't even get my started on the nonsense that is placing the speedometer in the top corner of a tablet instead of the middle of the steering wheel. Speed is the parameter that drivers check the most often so the last thing you want is looking to your right constantly instead of looking at the road.
Mate im 100% with u.
My stepdad had a Mercedes S Class W140 (S500) which had the best interior ever. It looked so good with all that wood.
My favorite interiors nowadays are defenitely the sporty ones, that look like a fighter cockpit and fit like a glove.
A really special pick is also the Nissan 300zx interior, which looks at night like directly coming from a 80s science fiction movie!
And Teslas + all minimalistic cars are pain to my eyes
modern day car designs will be nostalgic to some people eventually, calling something nostalgic isnt a good characteristic, its a vague feeling that could be applied to anything depending on the person. and that first image, that car is clearly from the 70s if not earlier, like how old were your parents if that was the type of car they were driving in the 2000s when you were growing up? and why the fuck youtubers always give specific scenarios that only apply to them and act as if everybody was the same? i had a gameboy color.
I aim to give the video video a touch of personality when giving oddly specific scenarios like that! thanks for watching anyway!
I think the point is cars and everything today with the "minimalist" design feel soul-less and lack personality (too corporate). It's kind of boring and the nostalgia probably won't hit as hard 30 years from now because there's not much to remember about it.
@@americanfreedomworldpeace I think this is definitely some truth to this. taste is ultimately subjective, and I don't think all styles will feel "modern" forever, but some design styles can absolutely "come into their own" better than others.
as an example, I have zero nostalgia for the early 2000's body/interior styles. maybe its because I'm not old enough but I don't see how cars that look like they took design ques from an egg would age as well as even the blocks that came from the 80's.
minimalism never ages well. tasteful maximalism will. I don't want 1 screen and a complete lack of anything else in my interior, I wand cool doodads and dials and whatnot for that 1930s airplane cockpit feel
@@jooot_6850 look how art deco aged, literally like fine wine, nobody will appreciate minimalism like that because there is nothing to talk about
My '82 Firebird SE has a maroon interior. Multiple tones of maroon on the door cards with black plastic and a leather wrapped steering wheel. It's a very subtle yet comforting interior, honestly we need that back
my 2015 mitsubishi outlander is still more oldschool than new. dreading the day i have to part with it. i specifically wanted a car that i could feel the road through the steering wheel (this one, compared to the completely dead steering of a hyundai santafe, felt like a go kart), a leaver hand brake, a v6 and awd, but wasn't expensive. it was the perfect car to me.
yeah took some driving lessons in a hyundai i10 or i30, something like that and the power steering was mario kart level haha
@@Rapshout i seriously thought it was drive by wire. it has ZERO feeling
Thanks for sneeking in the Trailer Park Boys clip, made this video so much better
I agree that 90s interior where superior, but in modern Premium class cars like the 2017 7 series there where just so many buttons everywhere and so low down that it could be hard to differentiate while driving. My dad dirves one and even after 5 years of ownership he still doesnt have the muscle memory down. I think that is the appeal of a touch screen. Maybe its because i grew up after 2000.
Bro that nostalgia. I remember sitting in my dad’s 89 Cadillac, he got for 1k in the early 2000s. We loved that car. I’m almost 30, and I refuse to get a car that doesn’t have buttons for climate control or anything else. My 2021s still has a shifter, and the touchscreen it has is only for the camera and radio/bluetooth.
Nice video dude. I hope you'll grow on RUclips.
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Hmmm you have a great point. I always get excited like a little kid when I get into an old car and feel that vintage interior.
To be honest, I prefer the sleek Tesla minimalist interior design over the cluttered cockpit-style interior.
dont worry my video talking about everything else wrong with evs coming out on saturday haha! thanks for watching
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I wasn't alive back then, but I miss the available red interiors you could get in the Ford and GM trucks in the 80s and 90s.
4:18 saab did kinda do that on some of their models, examples are: The 900,9000,9-3 and the 9-5
I have a 1948 Buick Roadmaster and I gotta say it’s way more comfortable than any new car. The bench seats feel like you’re sitting on the living room couch.
windows joke was epic
I'm merely an outsider in the enthusiasm of cars.
That 90s Supra interior is glorious.
I super fanboyed it in this video but I think it deserves it. Truly the lonely drivers club car of all time. Thanks for watching :)
1:14 what car dash is that? looks like it came out the 80s
These kinds of dashboards used to be quite common. It was a mistake to let them disappear :(
it's from the 1985 Nissan CUE-X concept
@@Lingon_ thank you
I LOVE the firethorn red and wood interior of my 77 el camino. And yes, that bench seat is like a sofa, great for when you want to sneak out of a wedding for a quick nap before going back inside.
I used to feel a similar way, but that changed once I actually tried a Tesla.
The more cars I have had the opportunity to drive, the clearer it became to me that there is no such thing as a soulless car, let alone a soulless interior. All manufacturers have different approaches to the identity of their vehicles and the experience they wish to create for their users. And somehow, at that moment, that Tesla interior felt just right. In keeping with the rest of the car, for better or for worse. Sure, you can complain about how complicated it all seems, but it felt no harder to me than learning the the button placements for all the functions on my Audi. Hell, even the whole on screen shifting thing feels more natural to me than a lot of the other stuff I've encountered. (Specifically mercedes' column shifters which Tesla incidentally used before. I hop between cars a lot and these always confuse me for a few seconds.)
Is the whole minimalistic trend overhyped. Yes. But I also think we enthusiast tend to judge anything new unfairly.
And nothing illustrates this point more than the very start of the video. Yes, old interiors make us feel a certain way because that is what we grew up with, but it will be the same for Tesla kids eventually. All these same memories we've had are being made today for the new generation in these interiors, which will have the same meaning to them as 80's, 90's and 2000's interiors have for us.
This comment is way too long so I'll stop here.
Totally agree with the future nostalgia bit, but couldn't disagree more about the different car identities. Our family used to travel to lots of places where we would typically rent a random car, so I also have some experience with different makes and models, and most of the time the only words that came to my mind about the design(both interior and exterior) were "generic" and "bland". Like, if it wasn't for the emblem on the stsering wheel you could barely tell whether you were sitting in a Volkswagen, a Citroen or a Hyundai. The design itself isn't bad, but it isn't good either-it's just standard materials made into standard shapes in a standard configuration and colours, so the only thing I can tell is "well, it's definitely a car". Of course, there are still some automakers that create their unique designs like mercedes, mini and to some extent Honda, but generally speaking cars today are too similar and most importantly too neutral. Tesla's design is unique, but to me it's painful because it feels like they just took this "generic neutrality" and amplified it to the maximum as if you moved from an already minimalistic apartment into a room filled with bleak-coloured cubes as furniture
As for the buttons vs touchscreen, learning all the buttons designations may be harder than figuring out the apps on a giant tablet, but the point is when you have actually learnt all of this you can, well, just click a button you need in a split second and it will do what you want, whereas on a tablet you still going to need to swipe and touch and scroll and touch and swipe untill you reach the option you need. It just requires more manipulations
I do like the Tesla's instant torque delivery, but that isn't unique to their cars, it's just an electric car thing. If I wanted a more "eco-friendly car" (That's not a thing lmao) or a mire fuel efficient car, I would get a Hybrid like the Prius, not an electric
So true. Look at 1970s and 1980s American luxobarges - absolute beauty. Everything designed for comfort and ease of use. Everything within arm's reach, plush seats, colorful wood paneling and tons of color options inside. Every single one was different! I have a 1989 Ford F250 and the entire interior is completely blue with one wood trim ring around the gauge cluster. It's so fun to look at, and everyone that sees it thinks it's cool.
As a 2000s 3 series owner the design of the car holds up hella well today unlike it's 5 series counterpart. Though seeing older Japanese cars in places like Pick N Pull really made me question how on earth did they fumble the bar so hard in the early 2000s.
I bought a MK1 Audi TT not too long ago and woooowww what an interior! The whole thing has a coherent and unique design, it’s comfortable, everything feels good and high quality, and there are SWITCHES AND BUTTONS FOR THE THINGS YOU NEED TO USE WHILE DRIVING
Every single second was a fact in this video, i hate all the ultra minimized black interiors we have today- i actually get amazed looking at 60s/70s/etc interiors being literally entirely bright blue, do people just not enjoy things any more? theres plenty of cool futuristic designs and gorgeous modern interiors but when bandwagoners go "teslas are gay" its hard to disagree when the cars are genuinely soulless. i feel like every decade of cars had a certain theme going for so long, with 2000s being the last with the beginnings of shifting away in the 2010s
, do people just not enjoy things any more: I guess companies want us to be miserable these days.
and yeah the teslas are what set me off about this topic and at first I thought it was all modern cars but actually some of them look really cool.
thanks for watching !
Unfortunately here in Germany ppl often choose all black for resale value. I hate that so much
Born in 03' but I'm poor so my family has always had older cars. I remember growing up people would always dog on the 80's - 90's cars for being ugly and boxy but I love them now lol. First car I ever bought was a 98' Sebring convertable and you can start to see the minimalist influences with the grey and plastic-y interior, but it still had some personality to it. Especially with that purple/maroon finish on the outside 👌
But it still had leather seats and a nice practical dash with no weird screens or hyper-minimalism.
After I sold that, I bought an 06' Jeep Liberty and it surprisingly has a less futuristic look than the Sebring. A shiny cobalt blue finish with an interior of tan leather seats and matching vinyl console just looks really nice together. And the dash is a little minimalist but still practical and less digital than the Sebring (probably because an SUV is supposed to be more practical than a convertible).
But even those two cars are amazing compared to the current ones. These new ones look so depressing, have no character, and makes the car more difficult and less safe to use. I am not looking forward to the day when 2000's and previous cars become scarce and all the modern monstrosities take their places
Putting games on a Tesla screen is one of the most abominable ideas I've ever heard. Is that officially supported or is it something you have to do with 3rd party software?
There are some officially supported games on it, even a racing type game where you use the steering wheel to control
I own a 1989 500SE Mecedes Benz with premerger AMG parts on it. The interior is absolutely incredible. Everytime I drive it I feel like a baller, and the seats are so comfortable I could drive it all day. Every convience item I need is within close reach and logically placed. Its just an incredibly beauitful and thoughtful interior. I own two other modern performance luxury cars and they dont even compare
Another one of "It used to be better"... Tho I'm with those to be honest, however it is useless, in a perspective of time there's a chance that it'll be lost after few centuries.
i remember playing that exact route in pokemon sapphire on my way home from a summer vacation. My friend and I where young, and had never completed a pokemon game. We wanted to see if we could do it together. My game cartridge had a flat battery, so my friend and i kept the game powered on for days, making sure the console charged throughout the nights. When we had to head home, we used a charger plugged into the cigarette lighter in my family's crystler minivan to keep the game alive. Nearing the end of our 2 hour car journey, grinding the levels of our pokemon, my family made a stop to say hi to my grandparents. I don't remember if we ever won that rival battle or if the DS died unplugged in the heating car. That route made an impression, and i loved that minivan's interior. Nice video!
i feel gay when i see that image
brylan!!!
*tesla interior
haven't even watched yet and I already agree with you.
imagine being a lead designer in tesla just for everyone to call your design “elon musk’s stupid design”. I really don’t get the hate behind tesla as it is solely aimed towards elon musk, you dislike the design, alright then, hate the designer. i don’t get why people act as if musk is not just a soulless ceo.
because he is the face of the brand, i dont mind elon personally but I will use his name in respect to the cars he manufactures.
It is his design, Elon Musk has the final say on how the design should be. Someone designed the car but he made all the final edits. Just like an executive producer of a movie who can override the director and producer and basically has the final say, though they are not the creative mastermind of the film.
Bare minimum he signed off on it, he's at least partially to blame.
6:40 partly companies put screens because it’s actually cheaper than engineering physical buttons with wiring and everything
not saying you its good i love older interiors im absolutely getting a car with no goddamn screen in it but it is cheaper to just have software do everything than to make physical buttons
I've got a 2014 Mustang and I feel like the interior, while not as nice as the ones from the late 60s, is leaps and bounds ahead of whatever is going on now. I've still got cds and such stored in the cupholders, as I've never bothered to figure out how to connect my phone. It's comfortable, has real buttons, and is very pleasant to drive.
Not just interiors. The minimalist mindset is also affecting branding as well
Im 17 years old, and my daily driver is a 1998 jeep cherokee. It has no air, no carpet, and burns oil on cold starts. I love it though, ill never get rid of it. I plan to keep it alive for as long as possible. Compared to that, sitting in a modern car just feels so overwhelming. All the screens everywhere. I hate it
hell yeah bro jeep rocks, thanks for watching^
insane cope here
@@caftood so real
2:36 What did she say? I spent a third of my childhood in North Carolina, but I can't for the life of me understand what she said. It sounded like, "Pretty soon, you'll be driving it's country," but that can't be right. Someone who's fluent in Southern, please help me!
"pretty soon we're gonna be a communist country". Talking about drink driving laws lol.
@@RapshoutThank you! I've seen that clip elsewhere and I can never understand what she says.😂
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Thanks bro I appreciate it :)
Im also concerned about the fact that, since you control most of the car in a screen, what would you do if that screen somehow failed?, how would you control the car?
You buy a new one.😂😒😑😔
Being born during the 2000's was a wild time for a child to be alive, there was so many options for you to choose on what you want in the future.
I love the button tech on older cars. I had an '01 Audi A4 for a couple years and that dash looked like the second officer's panel of a 727. It was glorious!
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That comparison felt really personal XD
I did in fact learn to drive in a old Volvo V40 when I was 17 however I'm no tesla fanboy thank God
One interior that is quite appealing to me is the one from the Alfa Romeo 159/ 159 Sportwagen. In full beige, it looks amazing. A few "modern" gizmos, yes, but nothing too out of the ordinary. Even if you replace the original radio with a 2din, it still looks great and balanced.
X-type mentioned. Still miss mine. It was a 2006 and had a touchscreen, which is almost delightfully retro in its crappiness and was basically useless, every control on the screen had a corresponding button, but I absolutely loved the brown and beige leather interior. I now have a 2011 E-class which has somewhat boring fake black leather with silver accents, but thank god for no touchscreen.
I know I talked bad about it in the video but touch screen is kinda hit and miss, when I was a kid in my mums yaris it was kind of a cool novelty but I wouldnt want one today. thanks for watching!
I drive a 2001 Mazda 626. Simple radio with no screen, glowing green gauges in the dark, oscillating airvents, dials and buttons. It just works. No technological frills, only perfect handling and driving feel.
I fully agree, the 2010’s were the best area imo, the level of quality and prestige that you got in high end cars is immaculate and they still had a lot of character. Top quality cars looked like Rolexes
buttons, switches and dials are not only cool looking but practical...
unlike TOUCHSCREENS
Screaming parents hits hard bro
I knew it would speak to someone else too haha thanks for watching
Respect for the TPB mention
What I don’t like about Tesla interiors is not all the technology it has but how empty it all feels
The only reason for this minimalism I could think of, is to reduce distractions for the driver and make them focus on the road more. To prevent accidents.
Besides, Retro cars kinda look better then modern cars. In my opinion.
I think haptic feedback is very important for us fleshbags. The touch, the click, the sound switches make. You just can't get that with an ipad hotglued to your dashboard.
The worst part about Tesla interiors isn't how soulless they are.
It's that every other car company thinks it's the pinnacle of automotive design and is trying to copy them.
Honestly the GR86 is probably the best modern car interior I've seen.
Honestly, I want a car that's from the 80's but runs perfectly and everything. Every car my partner and I had were hand-me-down'd by family members were kinda.. run-down junk cars on their last legs so.. I hope we can buy a good one, one day, so we don't have to worry about it breaking down or something. lol
YEAH im the same got my first car that had like 6 previous owners lol
Yep. Hate those interiors. I’m 29 and chose to buy a 03 Volvo s80 to avoid a car payment and I love having actual buttons to press and hear. So satisfying and my headlights have lil wipers that still work.
Well, some working class mercedes have (or had until 2015) wood looking accents in the car. It probely is only plastic, but it still has the same surface feeling and is a nice contrast to the rest of the car wich is pretty modern. (I was talking specificly about the family car version of the E class, the version with a screen.)
what's wrong with physical buttons suddenly??
I had a ls400 and now a ls430 and the mix of leather and wood. It’s truly amazing. For the ls the wood used in each car comes from the same tree so the wood grain looks the same.
We also had dark and hopeless looking black plastic interiors in the 80s and 90s, although I agree that Tesla is just so cold and impersonal. In my opinion the most beautiful interior you can buy on a modern car is the one of the current Bentley Continental GT, which takes a lot of inspiration from those older cars you mentioned without making it look dated.
No physical buttons is just impractical. But it's not like you NEED anything but practicality in a car's interior, so simplicity isn't a bad thing. The "soul" you mention so much can be found in simplicity too.
I like analog. Always have always will. I like buttons. Hard to break. Never freezes or lags. Been in Rivians and they are nice and I’ve been in teslas they are also nice. Either one works but I prefer analog.
I just hate large tablet displays for anything important in a car.
I honestly think about the topic every single time I see a modern car interior (window, windshield, internet - wherever). I absolutely DESPISE the "replace dashboard with an ipad/screen" thing. First off, for aesthetic purposes, it looks absolutely inferior to real dashboard, no matter what picture you stock behind those soulless indicators. My dad drives a 2014 MB E class and its dashboard is just gorgeous. It has small displays, but they're used in conjunction with a really quirky and interesting looking set of mechanical indication. And the interior overall is a bomb.
My bottom line and, frankly, obe of most beloved interior aesthetics are early 00' Nissan interiors. I grew up having family rides in a 2002 Maxima and drive a 2004 Patrol, and I feel really comfortable and nostalgic in that kind of interior. It's not as gorgeous as Mercedes, had fewer belts and whistles, but it's really well composed and stands up to this day as really solid.
Another point: aren't these huge ahh displays distracting? Traditional minimal light dashboard is dull for a reason - you only look at it too get the most essential information about your speed, engine, parking break, etc. It's not flashy, it knows its place. And then the whatever modern car. Big flashy display and obnoxious controls on a side ipad. How the F are you supposed to control it? In a traditional interior you can physically memorize buttons and switches and operate blind if you so desire, distraction is there, but it's minimal.
You want a flashy bit? Heads up projection on windshield, where you should be looking anyway. That's the stuff. It's ergonomic, non distracting, looks cool and IS cool.
TL;DR: minimalist design sucks, old school cool, screen dashboards go away
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