Washington Redskins Vs Chicago Bears 1986 NFC Divisional Playoff Game
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- 1986 NFC Divisional Playoff Game: A lot of people aren't giving the Redskins much of a shot against the Bears, because of key injuries. Can they pull off the upset against the Superbowl Champions? Jim McMahon was lost for the season, because of a separated right shoulder. QB Doug Flutie will start in only his 2nd game since being drafted.
1987 NFC Divisional Playoff Game Washington Redskins vs Chicago Bears 1st Half drive.google.com/file/d/1-SqB-8ZYpbsQJ05pTzVtrq8JCFE49r00/view?usp=drivesdk 2nd Half drive.google.com/file/d/1P_m9IX_xE7vHCuLgS5_pDBn2gS3cbKXk/view?usp=drivesdk
I've been looking for this game, thanks! Too bad the Skins second touchdown drive didn't survive. Do you have the championship game against Minnesota?
Awesome thanks Richard
@@elbomporino 1987 NFC Championship Game photos.app.goo.gl/61Zc7gQhvdgk66B16
@@survivor5044 it's the holy grail! Thanks, man!
This was the NFL....just beautiful..n playoffs too, thanks alot man.
As a Redskins fan, since I can remember, it's great to relive some of these memorial moments. I'm so sorry though, that the Redskins have lost their team. I will ALWAYS be a "Redskins" fan.
I'm with you, even as a Giants fan, I hate what Dan Snyder has done do the Redskins team.
@@tomservo75 "Commanders"... what a politically correct joke.
They want to make people believe that they erased the name redskins out of respect when it was to erase their identity and existence because thats what they did by stop calling them redskins.
@@thesilence4456 Maybe you should google a dictionary
Dick Stockton brings back so many great memories including from the NBA with Bird 🐦, Magic 🎩, 76ers & Rockets 🚀 🙌 🤸🏼♂️
Voice of cbs sports in 80’s! Mr nba
@@gturcott1 Agreed. I remember him calling so many big Boston Celtics games in the 80s. The NBA on CBS was so far superior, especially their openings. This one by Brent Mussberger is my favorite! ruclips.net/video/iNB39k2XUEo/видео.html
@@gturcott1yep him and Pat O'Brien
As a 19 year old WAS fan, I watched most of this game in the old Washington National Airport departure terminal on my way to my first duty station in Germany.
OH MAN, I MADE soo much Money off the Redskins in 1990 in Desert Storm. On an Air Force base.
If you knew who the redskins really were you wouldnt serve the country that enslaved you yes i say "you".
god lord youre a puppy son
I miss the CBS openings.....great stuff!!
That is the truth. They need to bring back the CBS introduction song from 1986-88? Brought tears to my eyes when I hear it! Real talk!
That was the CBS NFL intro music that I remembered from when I first started watching it
Joe Gibbs went to 5 NFC championships with 4 different quarterbacks and won 4 of the 5. Nobody else has done that or had 3 Super Bowl victories with three different quarterbacks.
harold mccoy fixed. Thanks.
Hi thanks for all the games. Do you have '84 playoffs bears vs redskins.
He was a football genius. Dan Snyder destroyed the franchise he lifted from mediocrity to elite status.
And did it in a division that had at least 3 legitimate championship contenders every year
Yep only the 86 Giants beat us snd we had a very very good team that year it was just the Giants year but that was a great Superbowl run if we had the Giants at home we might have beat them that year maybe?
Every era there are teams that just have another team's number.
The 86 & 87 Bears could not get past Joe Gibbs and the Redskins
The 1980's Browns could not get past the Broncos of the era
The Colts had a devil of a time getting past the Pats in the 90s-00s
The Bills can't get past the Chiefs now.
Doesn't take away from those teams, they just were bad matchups and the teams that kept them out were truly Super!
Thanks for this upload!
This is so fun to watch. Going through this nightmare 2020 yr it's so nice to go back in time to great days of football
so true my friend... so true👌🏼
The NFL is absolute shit nowadays. So are most pro sports leagues for all kinds of reasons.
Some of the best players in NFL history played during the 1980's.
No........not really David Fogarty. Players like Ray Lewis, Bob Lilly, Johnny Unitas, Deacon Jones, Otto Graham, Larry Csonka, George Blanda, Patrick MaHomes, Randy Moss, Charles Woodson...................etc didn't play in the 1980's. Except for the 49ers........the 1980's were a poor decade for the NFL.
markparker1353
You’re really this mentally challenged? There are tons of great players from the 80’s.
Joe Gibbs, one of the best coaches of all-time
YES!! And I’m an Eagles fan, NOT a fan of any other NFC East teams, but greatness is greatness, and should be appreciated by ALL fans. When you win 3 Super Bowls (in 4 appearances), across a decade-plus time span, WITH THREE DIFFERENT QBs, you’ve done something unprecedented that doesn’t get nearly enough credit. Bill Walsh won 3 in 9 years, with Joe Montana. Parcells won 2 in 5 years, with Phil Simms and then Jeff Hostetler. Belichick won 6-of-9 over 19 years, with Tom Brady. ALL VERY IMPRESSIVE, and to be celebrated, but Gibbs stands alone in the way HE did it.
NOW, all those teams had TOP-NOTCH defenses, year in and year out, and Washington was no different, they had a great DC in Rich Pettibon, and some Hall-Of-Famers in Darrell Green and Charles Mann, who SHOULD be in if he’s not already, and great players of that era like Dexter Manley and Monte Coleman. Good-to-great defense is necessary to win the SB. But I just want to REMIND everyone who started at QB for Washington in this game: Jay “Ricky” Schroeder. They STILL won the Super Bowl. With Schroeder’s BACKUP, Doug Williams!
Gibbs was an offensive guy, from the Don Coryell coaching tree, and he always had a PHENOMENAL group of WRs, led by the all time great, Hall of Famer-but-STILL-vastly-underrated Art Monk! Monk was there for all 4 SB appearances, but he had different “complementary” receivers around him, from Alvin Garrett in the early eighties to Ricky Sanders and Gary Clark. Not to mention that Gibbs came back in the 2000s and Wash was a playoff team... not a championship, but damned impressive, especially when you think about how SHITTY the franchise has generally performed under the ownership/“leadership” of Daniel Snyder.
@@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 thank god it was Williams because ricky sucked in pressure sitations.....my opinion.
One more edit to my previous post, I mixed this up with the following season, when Darrell Green returned the punt after pulling his rib cage muscles leaping a tackler...
WHICH, now that I think of it, means that the two years immediately following the 1985 season, The Chicago Bears were eliminated, both times, by Washington, AT SOLDIER FIELD.
We look back now and say the Bears underachieved, getting only ONE championship out of that crazy-dominant Buddy Ryan defense. Depending on your POV, it seems we have Joe Gibbs to thank or vilify for cutting short any potential Bears’ run at multiple Super Bowls.
Jay Company yes, I am also a Raiders fan, and I still have horrible nightmares about the 1990 AFC Championship Game loss to Buffalo, 51-3.
The week after losing Bo Jackson forever, Schroeder really gave the offense a lift, putting the team on his back and posting that monster THREE points! Jeff Jaeger, YEAH!!
Jay Company yeah Schroeder was not a good QB or leader. PrimaDonna.
It’s guys like Schroeder - Tall, Big arm, zero mobility, white - that NFL scouts and *ahem* “experts” thought was always going to be the “perfect” or at least BEST skill set for an NFL signal-caller. Seems crazy now 😂 😂 😂, guys like Tom Brady are more “exception” than “rule”, now.
Richie Petitbon (the Redskins defensive coordinator at that time) was Ditka's teammate for the Bears! Matter fact, the Redskins NEW HEAD COACH Ron Rivera was on the Bears!
Circle of life😜 can't make this up
Ritchie took over for Gibbs when he retired...But his first season as head coach he had alot alot of injuries and Washington fired him after one season..And he was bitter over it..I think he'd been alright..If not for major injuries..They had alot of them i remember...He deserved another season at least...Hed been with them as coach for years..He get credit for our defence successes..In those Super bowls...They did Jack Pardee the same way.
Ok and?
@@eddiewallace7709 can’t make what up?
@@chrisslaughter5552 He did get off to a great start upsetting the Super Bowl champion Dallas Cowboys in Dallas opening game Monday Night Football. 2 years later this Springfield born guy is living in Georgetown with the love.of his life. (At her place, she made a lot more money than I did!). Anyhow, I would cross the Potomac River and walk just a mile to get cigarettes for a lot cheaper in cartons. And I remember Pettibones restaurant being there in Roslyn across the Key Bridge. At that time I thought, "What a great defensive coordinator for all those years in DC, but couldn't do it as a head coach." But in addition to the players getting older, I never considered the injury factor. I was too busy being in love to care at that time. So I'm glad you point out some facts I forgot about or didn't notice of that time. They got decent at times with Norv Turner... proceeding years showing some promise of a new generation of Redskins. Then after finishing off strong a few years later with Marty Schottenheimer, Daniel Snyder fires him anyways then we get Steve Spurrier. Thereby starting an endless descent 20-year descent into the toilet bowl of mediocrity (if we were lucky that year!)
Such an underrated playoff game. It's a classic.
Not really, bears were loaded. Flutie sucked, if McMahon plays easy W
@@santaclause3487 Flutie had talent. If you watch his USFL games with the New Jersey Generals, you can see that. I think the NFL heads were dismissive of him because of his height. But he did wind up having a good career in the CFL, and he did have a Pro Bowl year in the NFL.
@@tomcollins5112 I agree, he got better. But he played bad this game
@@santaclause3487 You have to think Chicago Bears history would have been a lot different had they gave Flutie a better shot. Little dude or not, he could make plays.
@@tomcollins5112 yea, I agree. Flutie was better than the average qb. I like the guy, he was a winner. But he wasn’t ready for a game like this. Had McMahon pbeen healthy, bears probably beat skins. And then it sets up the game of all games. Bears vs giants. Like wow, it could have been the best game ever, based on how good the teams were.
Joe Gibbs is in same group of Coaches we Steelers fans love Joe
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing!! Lifelong Redskins fan, but I was only 4 years old then so it's the first time I've seen this game!!
It was so great to see at the moment. The Bears came into RFK Stadium in 1985 and defeated the Redskins and . it's the first time WE lost in that stadium in the playoff game. We were such underdogs in this game two years later that it's awesome how it worked out. Seeing it LIVE ON TV at the moment and I'm glad that you can retroactively see it in its immaculate entirity, even though you were too young to take it in like an adult would when it happened. It was great. It was fucking awesome!
This makes you miss real football. The Hogs and the Bears, unbelievable memories 💯💯💯
Great game. Special mention for Stockton and Dierdorf, fantastic commentators. And of course special thanks to Richard for the share!
Thankyou Richard for posting this game.I hadn't had much to cheer about the last 20 years with my redskins..These were the good ole days for them and me being a fan...
Damn hearing that old CBS intro gives me goosebumps
When CBS sports was the apex of sports coverage.
@@MaximusWolfe Yes. The greatest time to watch football. I think 86-87 was the peak.
@@MaximusWolfe yeah, they covered most of the major sporting events....with style n flare
The Redskins had a Championship squad. Unfortunately, the Giants may have had the greatest team in franchise history that season, otherwise Joe Gibbs wins back to back SBs. While many already feel like he is in GOAT contention with 3 rings with 3 QBs and 3 RBs, back to backs in 87 and 88 would have solidified it.
The Redskins felt that the defending Super Bowl champions underestimated the National Football Conference wild-card winners. And they felt that was a mistake, to the tune of a 27-13 upset victory at Soldier Field.
1987
Stfu lol, flutie was a rookie, 2nd career start. If McMahon plays it’s an easy W.
Joe jacoby aka the club. future hall of famer! What memories. HTTR
My homeboy from Louisville Big Joe went to Western with my brother...should be in..But they wont...He wasnt drafted..That the only reason they use it to keep him out..
@@jamesb.9472 No he signed as a free agent undrafted from Louisville he is married to my childhood neighbor...He is worthy but there's so many other worthy players and they leave Joe out...Thats what i meant..He deserves it like Drew Pearson does...Politics keeps him out..He doesnt make alot of noise..He is laid back..Unless we get a weak class Joe will be last in .Im a die hard Redskins fan brother..And Louisville fan ..He my kinda guy..HTTR...The Ville Baby!
The Pro Football Hall Of Fame, as far as “induction criteria” goes, is a complete and utter disaster. There’s no “standards” or measures that are consistent, the NFL has changed rules drastically over time, the game Patrick Mahomes competes within barely resembles the game that Terry Bradshaw played, the game Bradshaw played barely resembled the game Sammy Baugh or Otto Graham played QB in...so stats aren’t easy to rely upon.
Look at the horrible way they’ve handled the Wide Receiver backlog. Terrell Owens wasn’t inducted in his first year of eligibility, which is INSANE. Cliff Branch is STILL not in. Drew Pearson. Isaac Bruce - the best player not named Kurt Warner on The Greatest Show On Turf JUST NOW got in, even though he’s been retired for a decade. COME ON, MAN...
@@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 Yes its some Joe blow bias picks..Its like what did they overcome to get to the NFL... popularity..Has alot to do with it...Drew Pearson all decade he has 3 times the stats.Swan has..But he dont have those acrobat catches..Sometimes they wait til they die..Put them in..alot are no brainers..Others i scratch my head over....What about Jerry Jones's not putting Jimmy Johnson in the ring of Honor..Bias..lol
Joe Jacoby was one of the nicest people I ever met and when I ran into him this is when the Hogs were famous no big egos on that offensive line. Athletes today could learn a lot from the old school guys
This game made me cry as an 9 year old. I loved the bears that much
I'm sure Joe Gibbs would be saddened by your tears, but he can't apologize for being a legend and destroying your hopes for a bears super bowl.
First off, hats off to Washington. They earned it both years. No excuses for the Bears. They have a long history of flopping when it matters. I was very young when this game was played but it was a bummer none the less.
Wilber Marshall played for the Washington Redskins in 1988-1992.
Very few QB's ever had the arm strength that Jay Schroeder had. I remember he beat out Elway and Marino in the long distance toss during the QB Challenge. He threw it 75 Yards.
shroeder ended up throwing it 70+yds downfield against the wind vs the NYG the following week in a game that was so windy it looked like it was snowing garbage...his arm was exceptional...
fjr70 Jeff George had a stronger arm than him in fact the strongest in NFL history with Dan Marino, John Elway, Steve Bartkowski, Terry Bradshaw, Bert Jones, Randall Cunningham, Doug Williams, Jay Shroeder, Daunte Culpepper, Drew Bledsoe, JaMarcus Russell, & Daryle (The Mad Bomber) Lamonica as honorable mentions.
Schroeder actually threw one 80 yards in the QB Challenge, which was quite a bit farther than either Elway (72 yards) or Marino (68 yards) threw on that particular day. Randall Cunningham threw one 81 yards to win it. Favre threw one farther than that but it was out of bounds.
Greg Pettis Indeed I knew I forgot to mention him thanks for the reminder.
@Greg Pettis
Great point about Vick's arm...
He threw a ball to Deshawn Jackson while playing for the Eagles in Washington 65 yards and Jackson was running full speed to catch up to the ball... He caught it and it was a TD... That much terminal velocity on a ball thrown 65 yards.... Was very impressive.
Look at the four teams in the NFC Divisional Playoffs, Skins, Giants, Niners, and Bears. Clash of the Titans. 10 Super Bowl Championships between 1981-1991.
Thank You Mr. Waldrup!!!-Now This Was Football!
Yup, gone but never forgotten and always in our memories. To hell with that joke that people call pro football nowadays.
The Bears were 14-2 for the season and flamed out--and at Soldier Field. Was really stunned after this was over. The Skins had ball control and the Bears had little or no offense in the second half. Slowly the Bears team fell apart after this loss.
Dick Stockton is an excellent play by play caller but is not as well remembered as Summerall, Madden, Enberg, Olsen & the Monday night guys.
Let's not forget that the Skins went 12-4 that year.
had it not been for that one jerk from Green Bay, we probably would have repeated
they were a 1 and done team
@@graciemaemarie11jones16 Yes it appears that way. Releases, trades and retirements started right after '85 and it was not the same ever again.
The Bears dominated a weak division at the time in the NFC Central. They couldn't handle the tougher NFC Beast in the playoffs.
Skins or Giants.
This is one of the most underrated games of all time!
Not if you are 50 year redskin fan like me I really thought we had no chance winning this game but that's why you line up and play this is easily one of the top 3 redskins win ever
Really good game to see!! You're right, the Redskins were not given much of a chance to win this game at all, not just because of the injuries, but also because of the vaunted 46 Defense that the Bears played even after Buddy Ryan became the Eagles head coach. Where I think the Bears may have lost was by starting Flutie, as much as it hurts to admit it, because I liked him a lot. I think after McMahon went down earlier in the season with the separated right shoulder, if the Bears did not have a veteran QB on the roster already, I think they should have tried to bring one in. I know Free Agency did not begin until 1993, but I am sure that veteran backup QB's were released if the team knew he would not see much playing time, if any. I'd say this is Flutie's darkest moment in football, because this was his second career start, and he did not have a very good game. I must give credit to the Redskins though, Schroeder and Monk both came up HUGE for them on this day!!
Some say that McMahon could have helped Flutie with the nuances of the NFL. But McMahon was tight with Mike Tomczak, who was the starter when McMahon went down (he did play pretty well, and had the support of the team). McMahon was not supportive of the move to Flutie, so he was basically left on his own...
Steve fuller was on the sideline.he beat them at rfk the year before in the playoffs
The Bears did _not_ play the 46 after Ryan left. Flutie starting this game, just his 2nd NFL start, is just certifiably insane, especially when you realize that Steve Fuller, who led them to playoff win on the _road_ vs this same Washington team, was healthy and still on the roster. Absolutely amazing.
I`ll never forget this game and the feeling I had after the bears lost! I was not only in shock but I was devastated because not only was it the end of an amazing run by the bears but I felt like it was possibly the end of the greatest run by a chicago team when you take the characters, the great players and the fun they seemed to have and the fun we had as fans following them!
Walter Payton last game you left that out..The Redskins kept fighting...D Green gave us gold..
Flutie was a poor choice atQB. perhaps Steve Fuller and Mike from Ohio State could have done better. Flutie did not know enough plays. they had ! week off to prepare & still lost!
@@pdgutierrez8784 Ditka's pet QB. It was the worst decision he ever made...
@@chrisslaughter5552
I thought Payton left after the 1987 playoff loss to Washington.
@@TheLAGopher Yes retired after that game when he set alone at the end of the beach with his hands in his head
The Redskins 2 years in a row knocked the Bears out
@Michael Leroy Still the only team to beat the same opponent on the road in back-to-back postseason.
@@TPTGopher it was more rare back then to win on the road compared to how it is now,back then as good as the bears were they couldn't win at home not only did washington beat them back to back years but my team the 49ers beat them in the Championship after there losses to washington.
I'm trying to find the full game of the Redskins bears divisional playoff game in Chicago the year that the Redskins beat the broncos for the championship.
@@rodolfohilliard1656 www.bitchute.com/search/?query=redskins%20bears%201987&kind=video
@@TBullets85 thanks for the link but I be afraid to open......I may try !!
During his first stint with the Skins, Gibbs was 4-3 in playoff road games. Outside of the Super Bowl loss to the Raiders he always had his team ready to play.
Absolutely, I hate to talk about that SB loss to Raiders. Because Joe Gibbs is one of the best ever! But, it was his worse game on plan ever. Til this day it still drives me nuts.
YOU can't blame Gibbs for the SB Raiders loss. I think the players went out and partied before the game.
The end of greatness I'm 57 you have no idea what a proud franchise this was even when they were bad they were good 👍
Absolute heart breaker for us Bears fans. The two best teams in football that year were clearly the Bears and the Giants. If the Bears win this game, I believe there's a high probability they would have went on and beat the Giants in New York. But then again, most Bears fans that are old enough to remember this game, think that too. All we can do is speculate, and of course my bias is in play here too. I just believe that this was a window in time ('84 - '88) where the Bears were just NOT a good matchup for the Giants. The Bears kind of proved it to us by decidedly killing the Giants the season before in the '85 playoffs and then again in '87 Monday Night showdown to start that season (following the Giants magical Super Bowl year of '86). Likewise, the Redskins proved to be a bad matchup for the Bears during this time too, as they won this game and also the following year beating the Bears again in the playoffs. I disliked the Redskins for a very long time after that. A lot of blame, if not all of it, has to go to Ditka for not figuring out that QB position. Jim McMahon never being able to stay healthy didn't help either. All we can do now is think.....'what if'. Having a healthy Jim McMahon for this game though, it would have been a different outcome. The Bears team as a whole just played at a different level when McMahon was on the field.
If Fuller starts this game, the Bears would've won this game, but without a healthy McMahon there's no _way_ they go into the Meadowlands and beat the Giants.
nobody was stopping the Giants that year.
@@dougnewman3935 The Bears were defending world champs and 14-2 with the best defense in the NFL. They would have had a solid shot to beat NY if McMahon had played. Would have been a great match up that could have gone either way,
The two best teams were the Redskins and the Giants. That's why the Bears lost this game. They were not one of the two best teams. All this what if stuff is pathetic. The Bears were only good enough to win one Super Bowl during this era. Let's not pretend that they were better than they actually were.
Washington went on to win the Super Bowl the following season, so they were no slouch.
In all my years of 45 or so years of watching NFL, this was the biggest upset. Who would have thought The Bears would be run all over.
Stockton says at the beginning of the telecast that the Bears didn't have any injuries. Jim McMahon was out for the season and didn't play.
The day Joe Gibbs cracked the code of the mighty Bears defense.
The '86 Bears had one of the easiest schedules ever. 14-2 against teams that only won 40 percent of their games. They went up against a quality Redskins team and got soundly beaten.
Bears should have won multiple championships in the 80’s with that team! They totally underachieved!
Agreed. I believe their best shot was 1987 and 1988. Too much focus on this 1986 season and team.
beating whom? in 88 SF dee-molished them....in 86, the giants, no doubt, woulda beat em....bears? a 1 year wonder.
1985 Bears and 2013 Seahawks i feel like both had this in common. The two should have rattled off multiple super bowl victories. But egos on both teams ended their runs very quick. The only difference is Seattle made another appearance but lost because of a stupid decision at the end of the game to not give beast mode the ball.
@@mitchykramer1586 LMFAO the 86 season was clearly their best chance to win another so I don't know what the fuck you're smoking as to think 87 & 88 were better.
@@bena.3955 , yes, Pete Carroll wanted Russell Wilson to be Super Bowl MVP and not Marshawn Lynch. It’s the only explanation for such a stupid decision.
EPIC GAME
Doug Flutie receives a lot of criticism for the Bears losing this game. But, nobody brings up Walter Payton's fumble on the Redskins 18 yard line with 5:25 left in the 3rd quarter. At the very least, the Bears kick the field and would be up 16-14, if they don't get the ball in the endzone, but the Walter Payton's fumble cost the Bears a golden opportunity to score, which would've given them the lead.
Good point made...devastating turnover for the Bears in this game...
Plus the defense gave up 20 points in the 2nd half, 13 in the 4th. The defense cost them the game
I grew up in Chicago in this era. Watched this game. You are exactly right. The Bears probably win without that fumble. It was painful because Walter was so beloved.
Payton had the kind of career that made you forget the bad moments, but you are right about that being the point of no return for the Bears
I a blak man
Ditka s stubborn arrogance in starting flutie cost bears this game
I don't agree with you often but on this...
I CONCUR WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!
PRAISE YOU BROTHER!!!!
Flutie was good. I don't think the other Bear QBs would have done much better. The Redskins were solid and very good.
Why Ditka looked like a arrogant lawyer not a bears coach?
They would have lost regardless. Redskins were the better team top to bottom in ‘86 and ‘87.
@@MaximusWolfe Were they better top to bottom in 84?
One of the most satisfying wins in redskins history ..
Goal line stand by Skins in 2nd quarter swung the momentum back to the Skins. How can you not try a single passing play on that series, or a fake handoff to payton and Flutie has a run or pass option? The series also showed how much Payton had lost. One of the greatest players ever, but Neal Anderson had a better chance of scoring.
Mr. Waldrup you are the man !
This was a wonderful Christmas present, i've been looking for this for a long time, thank you sir.
Can someone find 1991 NFC Championship game Detroit Lions vs Washington Redskins.
Did you find it!!
91 was a weak nfl season. No 49ers, giants, bears. Skins played falcons and lions. Only legit win was over the ptsd bills. 86, the nfc was stacked. Bears, skins, 49ers, giants.
@@justinyoung8062 I don't think the 91 NFL was weak. The Saints were hot also. The Skins that year wasn't ultra talented. One of the main reasons for our dominance that year was that we had a mediocre quarterback SUDDENLY become awesome. They were well coached, and had many veterans with Superbowl experience on that team. Skins were just.......stacked! Ahhhhh..........the good ole days.
@@c.michaelhinson7806 i agree with you
Ditka was a genius. Starting a 5 foot tall QB with 2 games as a starter?
wtf I know
Bad move but the REDSKINS would have won either way. Better team as a whole.
@@MaximusWolfe No.
@@SECRETARIATguy224
Yes, by far. Proven the very next season when they beat your asses yet again. Cope.
@@MaximusWolfe No. I cope very well.
A muff can’t be advanced.
That’s what she said.
This game woulda been a blowout if McMahon played in the same health he was in 85' ... Unfortunately for bears McMahon was hurt way worse than they knew and it helped ruin a dynasty every bear fan knows this ... Plus buddy ryan left in 86'
My knees hurt just watching this. Those fields were concrete.
We owned the Bears on their home field in the 80’s
We owned them anywhere after 85.
Bears were a 1 year wonder. Like a band with 1 hit song that everyone remembers. AND THAT'S IT.
BUT--for that ONE YEAR they were the best damned team in NFL history, as evidenced by ZERO points allowed in the playoffs, and 10total points allowed in the entire postseason. 'nuff said
@@ronaldmorr9445 nah. They played in a weak division, against bad QB. They played two good QB all season - Marino and Montana.
Fragile team mentally. It's easy to be badasses when you play crap QB and are way ahead. When things went south - like Miami and this game, they folded. Typical Chicago bears lmao.
@Bigfriendly15 I'm a die-hard Bears fan and was in high school during the 1985 season and loved every minute. But, even then, I knew a couple of things: 1. It was always going to be hard for the Bears to win again and 2. the game was going to change to quicker passes to negate the pass rush, which was on full display when the Miami beat the Bears in 1985.
There are some big differences between the 1985 and 1986 Bears. First, their QB play fell off dramatically. McMahon's shoulder was hurt (was actually hurt the year before) and his rotator cuff continued to deteriorate into the 1986 season and after Week 4 against the Bengals, his arm strength notably declined. They had Steve Fuller, who was washed up by that time; Flutie who was signed during the season and was not embraced by the team; and Tomczak, who was a poor QB. But the bad QB play was only part of the problem.
The Bears lost their best corner - Leslie Frazier - to a knee injury he sustained on an ill-advised reverse punt return during the Super Bowl (it was called back on a penalty anyway - just a stupid idea to have your best corner doing that). His replacement, Reggie Phillips, was fast but very small as a corner and he struggled to cover especially given that the league was catching up with the pass rush. The Bears also were without their number two receiver in 1986 - Dennis McKinnon - and he was very much missed. Keith Ortego and rookie Lew Barnes were not enough to keep Willie Gault from getting double covered all the time.
Lastly, when the Bears lost in the championship game in SF in January of 1985. They were humiliated and angry and that fueled an edge going into the 1985 regular season and carried them - especially in the 2nd half and the playoffs. Once they won the SB, the Bears never had that edge again. And while I liked Ditka initially, he was out coached by Gibbs in the 86 and 87 playoffs and by Walsh in 88 playoffs - badly.
So as much as I appreciated the 1985 season at the time and wish the Bears would have won more, events stacked up against them.
In short, the Bears of the mid-to-late 1980's are just like the New York Mets teams of that sale era: tons of talent and personalities, and should have won multiple championships, but at the end of the day only won once, even if it was incredibly fun for that one season followed by heartbreak.
Of course, the Bears did change the game. All the passing offense since then has evolved to quick passes to negative the pass rush. In addition to winning a SB, the Bears also succeeded in killing the traditional drop-back passing game, in which a QB would drop back 10 or even 15 yards to throw a pass. That doesn't happen anymore. Of course, you can't hit the QB anyway in today's game:).
10-6, 15-1. 14-2, 11-4, 12-4, one SB and 3 NFCC game appearance. Ya, one hit. lol.
@@stivosimz The result of a bad division. The NFC Central was a joke. People forget Green Bay was awful, as was Detroit & Tampa Bay. Minnesota was okay but they lost to Washington, SF & NYG as well.
Always liked soldier field the way it always was , never been impressed with the way they remodeled it in the 00’s decade,,,
Re--3:57. A drop by Willie Gualt...what a shock that is. Al Davis loved him and hated Marcus Allen. SMH.
Joseph Wright He was all speed and not much else. He did have a great game in SB 20. But he was never a great WR.
@@travismcdonald6576 Exactly!
@@JAWrightonline Al Davis loved receivers that could stretch the field and go deep. Guys like Cliff Branch, Darius Heyward Bey, Tim Brown, and Willie Gault. Some were good, others like Gault and Bey not so much.
Next time shake your head clear off
As a redskins this win ranks in the top 5 biggest wins
No McMahon in 84, No McMahon in 86. 2 losses. How does Mike start Doug Flutie?
Really showed Iron Mike's arrogance. Figured his baseline of what they had at that time of Fuller and Tomczak compared to a brief flash of what would be possible with Flutie was worth the risk. What he didnt take in consideration was the fact the team lost respect for him at an accelerated rate for a variety of things. The Flutie signing severely divided the locker room and McMahon showed no real support nor leadership as one would expect. So, this put everything on the Defense to Win the game which is why you see as history played out, Joe Gibbs being a much superior coach than Ditka.
And Steve Fuller, who led them to a road playoff win against Washington in 84, was healthy and still on the team. Incredible.
It wouldn’t have changed the outcome. The Redskins were the best team in the NFL that season beside the Giants. And the very next season the Redskins eclipsed them too. I guess Bears fans need excuses for getting soundly beaten by a better team.
@@MaximusWolfeYou're incapable of having a true discussion about this. Everything is extreme with you. No room for context or nuance.
@@SECRETARIATguy224
No, you’re just wrong and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.
Here's some high praise. John madden always said joe gibbs made the best adjustments at halftime if any coach in the nfl.i would have to agree. I always respected him.
They were both from the Coryell tree (Madden and Gibbs). Coached together under Coryell in the mid-60s at San Diego State.
Even as a Skins fan I biggest problem was Flutie was abysmal. If Bears had Tomzak there would have been a more competitive game
Man. Does this bring back memories.
Thank you for this one too.
Loved this era of Washington football.❤
Not starting Steve Fuller was a big mistake. Let's not forget he had beaten Washington at RFK in '84 (their only playoff loss ever at the old stadium)
As I recall the Skin's were carrying offensive lineman onto the field on stretchers they were so beat up and still they held their own until Theismann tried to punt...
Just very perplexing.
They would have lost no matter who they suited up. Simply put, by ‘86 the Redskins had already eclipsed the bears and that’s why they win the super bowl the very next year.
The '86 Bears might've finished the season with a superb 14-2 record, but it wasn't exactly the 'charmed' kind of the season that the '85 Bears had. Still solid defensively, but the QB 'carousel' proved costly as it turned out.
How many time did they mention the 49ers were going to be a tough challenge for the Giants 🤣
Please. With Joe Montana ailing, the 49ners had ZERO chances of beating the 1986 Giants
If you think about it, this was almost the team that won Super Bowl XX vs. the team that won Super Bowl XXII. A great game.
In retrospect, the Redskins were the more talented team. They were also much more physical than they were given credit for and the Bears were one dimensional on offense. When the Redskins took away the Bears running game, it forced Flutie to pass and Darrel Green was the best cover corner in the league so the biggest receiving threat Willie Gault was nullified for the most part. The Bears defense played well but the Redskins balance on offense made it more difficult to shut them out and with the running game shut down, the Bears were outmanned.
True...very true...and the next week they had nothing for The "G" Men!
The Skins were a great team but its a stretch to say they were more talented. This was the greatest defense of all time, even better statistically than in '85.
The Bears had the better RB, DL, better LBs, and better safeties. Washington had better receivers, DBs, and a better QB with McMahon injured. The OLs were equivalent. But the clearest advantage was the coaching staff for Washington.
great run for a 1st down by schroeder at 1:57:18 to end the 3rd quarter.
I remember watching this game and thinking the Giants are going to smoke the Bears. Marshall was a excellent linebacker but I noticed he started to screwup if you fought back. When they beat the Giants the year before Bavaro punked him late in the game and he was going bananas on the sideline. So he slaps Bryant on the ground and cost them dearly in this game.
Marshall ended up with the Redskins and played a lot smarter with Gibbs and Pettibone providing discipline, you can bet Manley did not enjoy the little talk he had with Gibbs after the game
The '86 and '87 Skins made the '85 Bears one and done! Skins won there in the Playoffs the next year too
The Bears of the '80s remind of the Raiders of the '70s. They were a great team for one year. Oakland had to deal with the Dolphins and the Steelers. Same for the Bears the NFC was loaded back then. Besides the Redskins you also had the Giants and the 49ers.
Jim McMahon had declined as a passer in 1986. McMahon missed 6 starts due to injury between the 1st and 12th game of the season. He started off solid with 5 TD passes and 3 INTs during this time. In his final 3 games, he struggled throwing 6 straight INTs without a TD pass. The decline was was already ongoing before the Charles Martin incident took place.
He started to get more injured after that season, maybe that might be why they traded him during the off season after 1988.
@@ScorpioBornIn69
The Bears traded Jim McMahon due to his poor work ethic, inability to stay healthy, and his back to back mediocre playoff performances in 87 against the Redskins and 88 against the 49ers.
MCMAHON got an ego and was really lazy. A better leader than QB
Andrew Hoyle if you have a big ego and are lazy, you aren’t a leader.
@@andrewhoyle1521
Your leader isn't suppose to come into training camp 26 pounds overweight.
The Joe Gibbs era Redskins are the most underrated teams in NFL history
No they aren’t. Gibbs won two Super Bowls during strike seasons.
@@byrongammonbyrongammon9937
So what? It’s completely baseless to assume that because the team won a Super Bowl in a shorter season that they accomplished less. Did the Giants not win in 87 because they wanted to less? What a joke. The Redskins were more prepared coming out of the strike than any other team and if you don’t factor that into their greatness then you’re an idiot (which I’m sure you are anyway). Besides, the 1991 Redskins would beat the ever loving shit out of any team you can think of and last time I checked the man at the helm was still Joe Gibbs. Nice try though you hapless little simpleton.
@@MaximusWolfe what is NOT in doubt is your low self esteem, deficient intelligence, and epic insecurities. Congratulations on going ad hominem and confirming your station.
Joe Gibbs doesn’t get enough credit for what he did with the Redskins.
The Redskins were inferior to the Bears, but won because their coaching was in another galaxy.
@@TruthHurts58 THE PATRIOTS WEREN'T AWFUL, THEIR PERFORMANCE IN SB XX WAS AWFUL BECAUSE DA BEARS OF '85 WERE AN AWESOME FOOTBALL TEAM...
YOU ARE AN IDIOT PERIOD!!
@@TruthHurts58 beside Walter nobody on da Bears would make the Redskins first cut..The Bear should get locked up for impersonating a football team...
@ko park im teasing brotther seems the Bear would have won a couple more but that one they won..I dont think nobody beats them in 85 except the dolphin game helped take the pressure off..They could relax
@ko park yes they could have went undefeated...But it add alot more pressure..Detractions...Im still reeling about the name change..Im a Walter Payton Fan greatest footballer ever
I really don't think they were inferior. The Bears offense was always rather pedestrian. Even with McMahon.
After SB-20, the only post-season game the Bears won for the rest of the 80's was the fog bowl.
Why Ditka started Flutie over Fuller or Tomczak is beyond me. That was a stupid move....
Because Ditka is stupid
I would've started tomczak.....he wasn't any thing special at qb but with the bears defense being great tomczak was a ball control qb who made less mistakes than the other 2
Fuller was hurt to, tomzack shouldve started. Ditka had an ego by tbis point and thought he could turn water into wine
The Redskins heart was too big in the one. And I mean that in a great way. They would have won no matter who started at QB for the Bears. They were pissed off from that 1984 playoff loss in RFK plus the Super Bowl champs 1985 Bears blowout (1 yard punt) of them and this was the revenge!
@@AZDC99 that might be true
@52:40. why the heck did Richardson cut back in? he had a TD if he hugged the sideline.
Just wasn’t the same intimidation after Buddy Ryan left.
yeah becuase buddy sucked so bad as a head coach
That Skin's Dline was all time NASTY. The secondary was incredible also.
This game really showed how limited the offense was for Chicago. That season it was hand the ball off to Walter, throw to Walter, and take a deep shot with Willie Gault. That's pretty much it. So without getting turnovers and defensive scoring you really are putting tremendous pressure on the defense to to force 3 and outs to win. Chicago just wasn't setup to come from behind or score in bunches. 85 was special because the defense forced so many turnovers and scored or setup easy scores.
If you look at the 86/87 versions of the same defense, you see teams take advantage of the 6 players on the line of scrimmage with quick slants and double moves on the outside, once DBs started cheating up at the line.
False. They didn't play the same defensive style after 85. The 85 offense was easily the best offense in Bears history. They had a dynamic offense with McMahon healthy, and came back several times in 85. McMahon not being healthy was the key to 86. Take a look at the wk4 1986 game they played at Cincinnati. That's the last time they had him when his shoulder wasn't ailing badly.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 so you are saying that because McMahon was injured they had to change the offense to accommodate this. Ok. But from what I remember, Jim would go against what Ditka called anyway and had the arm and decision-making to back that up. Therefore how much would we know was Jim's going off schedule vs whatever Ditka called.
@@olschool121 Oh, that was very easy. When watching the games as a Bears fan, you could very easily tell when McMahon was changing the play. Most often he would audible at the line, but sometimes he'd just reject what had been sent in and call his own play in the huddle.
@@olschool121 The defense wasn't run the same way after 85. From 82-85, Ditka's first 4 years with the team, Ditka had no say _whatsoever_ on anything having to do with the defense. Buddy Ryan was _completely_ in charge, and that was a condition Halas gave him before even giving Ditka the job. Ditka _couldn't_ fire Buddy Ryan. His blitzes were totally unpredictable. Ditka complained quite often that Ryan should play more zone defense, and also play more bend-don't-break . . . give up some more rushing yardage in exchange for not being as vulnerable to the big play. Ryan would tell Ditka to jump in a lake.
When Ryan left after 85, Vince Tobin was the defensive coordinator, but he was also under Ditka's authority. The 86 defense was still very good, and in a few categories better, but they weren't as unpredictable, especially in their blitzes. Want to see how they played without McMahon under Ryan? Check out 1984 games after McMahon lacerated his kidney. You can clearly see the difference. Under Ryan, the way he described it was that they played ball-control _defense_ . . . meaning their whole philosophy was to take the ball away _now_ and give it back to their offense.
@@olschool121 When McMahon was playing, Ditka was notorious for running draw plays when the Bears had 3rd and between 5 and 9, most often out of the shotgun. McMahon would audible to pass plays at the line there, but he was also very adept at audibling to run plays away from the strength of the defense, and these were most often run plays that _weren't_ runs for Payton . . . they'd be to Suhey or Calvin Thomas.
Interesting that after being rattled in the 2nd quarter Schrader was able to settle down and play great in the 2nd half more impressive was the Redskins running game asserting dominance in the late game it was not a surprise that the skins defense was as dominant as it was, one dimensional teams seldom had success against Pettibone's defense even with a Walter Payton to rely on
Schroeder
Redskins eliminated the Bears in the 87 playoffs too!
1986, 87, 88, all saw the Bears lose in the postseason at home...I don't think any other team has matched that...
1987
@@carlosreyes5371 Weak NFC Central. 6 games against Green Bay, Detroit and Tampa Bay equaled 6 automatic wins during that time.
@@johnliberty3647 Exactly the Giants, Redskins, Eagles, Cowboys and even Cardinal for a couple years were all beating the shit out of each other every year. The best teams were in the NFC East and the 49ers. The Bears were good but 6 automatic wins inflated how good they actually were, until they played a team from the NFC East or the 49ers. That's the EXACT reason why they never won more than one Super Bowl. EVERYONE AGREES.
@@gerrypeet4861 indeed the 49ers and the nfc east dominated the 80s and mid 90s
I watched a 30 for 30 for the bears, and the bears players were talking about this game calling Doug Flutie a midget. 🤣🤣🤣
@teddyjam8134 By NFL standards, he was a midget. Safe to say, the players didn't like Doug Flutie from the start. Flutie going to the Patriots was the best thing for him in 1988.
the skins TEs were UNDERRATED, Donnie Warren and Clint Didier were great players and don't get their due from the historians of the NFL on how important they were to that team and the scheme
Once an employer of mine asked each of his managers following a profitable year who their all time favorite player was and surprised each with an autographed football from that player, my Don Warren football remains among my favorite possessions
Is the Giants Redskins championship game available?
I have the game, but RUclips keeps blocking it.
I believe so and I still get pissed off that Gary Clark dropped that pass.
I really miss NFL Football.
Me too but it’s never coming back, having been replaced by that shit show helmed by Roger Goodell.
@@MaximusWolfe AH HA, true. My major complaint of today's game is not the quality so much, the modern athlete is far superior, however, as fantastic as these athletes are, Goodell and Co. have changed the rules to make the game easier, especially for the offense.
MAN, bring back a good old RB hits the hole behind some hogs and grind out a huge defensive struggle.
P.S. Not just the NFL that's made the game easier w/ rule changes - NBA is a joke.
@@bishlap
Yes, that stuff is awful but for me it’s just the whole atmosphere. The NFL is so enslaved to the zeitgeist and the senseless PC idiocy that comes with it. The name change thing in all major sports is just so sanctimonious and childish.
@@MaximusWolfe well that's another level of NFL ridiculousness, AGREED, but I was mainly talking about the game in general
@@bishlap
Yeah I totally understand what you’re saying too. But for me it’s not just one aspect or another. The whole league has become unwatchable and insufferable. And to think that there was a time when I would never miss watching the Redskins play on Sunday or Sunday night football or Monday night football. Now you couldn’t give me enough money to sit down and watch that, let alone go to a game or buy a jersey. How the times do change.
The Bears had this one in hand...but dropped several passes, wasted a few scoring opportunities and turned the ball over too much.
The Chicago bears had one dominating season with all the great LB's n defense powerhouse, that was 85 n that was it..........the Giants were better for a longer period in the eighties than the bears.
Giants had a better coach in Parcells. Ditka was a decent coach but had the Bears had Purcells they probably would have won 3 or 4 Super Bowls in a row.
@10inchhog Giant's were a better team in 86.....they had a great running game with Joe Morris, that opened up the passing fot Simms.....bears were dominate in 85 b
@10inchhog Giants won more playoff games in the 80’s and won another SB in 1990 beating the Bears 31-3 in the divisional round. Get a clue
@@TL2354 the bears did man handle the giants pretty Good bro I mean eventually the Giants would get a win.
@@seankeys5384 gmen have more championships n SB wins than bears
what a time to be alive
shalom
Bears had a lot of chances to open a lead in this one.... That would have never happened if McMahon was healthy he was no where near healthy in 87' but the still almost won shoulda won up 14-0 at home w that d but Mac got hit after a TD pass and couldn't do shit after that
Is Todd Bowles that played for the redskins the former coach of the Jets???
This was painful to witness...Flutie had no business being in this game
Ditka was terrible! Steve Fuller should have started.
@@kevinhook2731 Ditka was terrible? I guess his record as a head coach sucked, right?
@@wyliestivers2634You're not wanting to acknowledge that it's more complicated than that . . . Ditka was great in doing his share to get the Bears _to_ the mountaintop, but he was godawful in helping them _stay there_ . Both are true.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 The idiots in the front office should have paid Buddy Ryan to stay. That was what cost them another 2-3 championships. Best D coach ever.
@@wyliestivers2634 I'm with you. Buddy Ryan was the best defensive coach ever. However, even though the front office of the Bears had and continues to have plenty of idiots, absolutely nothing they did was gonna keep Buddy Ryan in Chicago after Super Bowl XX. The man wanted to be a head coach.
I agree with Richard Dent. If Mike Ditka wasn’t so arrogant signing Doug Flutie who was a midget instead of keeping Steve Fuller and Mike Tomczak, they probably repeat as champions
I don't think they win the Super Bowl, but they _absolutely_ win this game.
I think the 1986 Bears would have went to the Super Bowl against the Broncos had Jim McMahon been healthy.
No way. McMahon was always overrated. The Giants would have chewed him up and spit him out at Giants stadium in the NFC Title game that year IF he made it that far. The Skins were a better team than Chicago that year. Plain and simple.
no he wasn't and giants would have struggled with him like they did the year before he had a cannon arm. Redskins weren't plain and simple better they just had the break of the mcmahon injury
Paul Evereklian
The Redskins were indeed better the Bears. They lost to the Giants 3 times that year and played in a better division. They went on to win the SB the next year as evidence back in an era where teams tended to do that. McMahon wasn't anything to write home about despite your romanticizing him to be more than he was. Giants were waiting for Chicago in the NFC Title game and would have killed them. Too bad the Bears weren't good enough to get there.
God I so miss the old days.
All true football fans do. No true football fans have anything to do with the current “NFL.”
thank you richard for giving me what i want.suprise me i know more skins games from there championship years is coming.i don't knowif you going to get the 72 playoff games your doing just fine god welling keep up the great work.
Where?
nice rollout and pass from schroeder for a touchdown to a wide open monk that tied the game at 13 in the 3rd 1:43:04
Redskins are 2-1 against the Chicago Bears in the playoffs. All playoff games were in the 1980s.
Bears defeated the Skins 73-0 in the 1940 championship game.
@@81overon Sammy Baugh took an ass kicking in that one.
I remember watching this game back in the day at my late grandparents house in Columbus Georgia on their cbs station WRBL Channel 3
WTF were they praising Flutie so profusely? He SUCKED.
McMahon was 100% right about Flutie.
No, he wasn’t. Flutie went on to have a much more successful career than Mike TomZack or Steve Fuller. You could argue that he had a better career than Jim McMahon. He certainly had better statistics. Hell, the man won four or five grey cups and nearly brought the Buffalo Bills to the Super Bowl barring a fluke incident like that lateral.