Michael. Got an update. The eastern teardrop bell got replaced with a Western Cullen Hayes mechanical bell when i went to Junee today. Saying that the WC hayes only ring till the gates lowered whilst the teardrop bell on the western side rings till the gates rise. Thought I let you know. 😀
Thanks Josh. I did see the replacement bell in late November and I'm thinking it probably came from Harefield. Didn't have my camera so only got some phone footage which I'm not entirely happy with. No idea when I'll get there to film it properly, haven't had much time and trying to limit my travels during covid, also not very motivated lol.
@@McKHAust fair enough.wasn't sure if you knew or not. Too easy. I'm looking to go back there next pay and do some train spotting there. I'll be happyto get some footage there while I can.
The Magnetic Autocontrol pedestrian gates are actually manufactured with the alarms built-in. It's just that the railways sometimes decide to use external audible warning devices instead. In Victoria, pretty much all installations of Magnetic Autocontrol gates use the internal alarm.
Ahh ok, thanks for the information. Most crossings in NSW seem to use external alarms for whatever reason. Maybe they just got used to doing it that way back when GRS semaphore mechanisms were used.
Freedomtowerman Productions thanks for watching. They don't seem to be in a hurry to do anything about the dead bell, which could actually be a good thing. If it was going to be replaced then surely it would have been done already?
It's the same over here, but normally it happens a bit faster once a bell dies. As of today (January 4th, 2017) it has still not been replaced, so I'm hoping that they may be considering fixing the bell. But then again maybe Christmas and New Year have interrupted the work.
Thanks, this is one of my favourite crossings. Hopefully the bell can be repaired, but if not then I hope it gets replaced by another m-bell. The second bell will probably die quicker because it operates continuously now, I got plenty of footage in case they are both replaced.
I went past the crossing last week on the way back from Wagga Wagga, both teardrop bells were still there but I didn't see the crossing activate so I'm not sure if the dead teardrop bell has been fixed.
5:41 what's with the siren? It sounds way different than the UK style alarm! 7:49 the pedestrian gate says 5 tracks, but the road sign says it's 4 tracks! 8:33 are light engines common at this crossing? 9:03 how much time was between the gates opening until this closing? It must not have been too long because the camera is in the exact same spot! 11:56 I think all of the trains in this video so far is the same pair of locos! I find that neat! it can be hard to find the exact same locos again on the same day, if you aren't chasing it! 15:42 nice horn sound! A very classic sounding horn! This is one reason I want to railfan in Australia! 22:28 the station looks nice!
The siren is most likely a UK one, just set to a different tone. It's probably a Klaxon or a Roshni, they are the most common ones here. The 4th and 5th tracks diverge in the middle of the crossing, so both signs are probably correct. I guess a 4.5 Tracks sign would confuse people lol. Light engines are very common. Many trains reverse directions here and the engines run around the train, they go up past the crossing and then come back on a different track. There are only 2 different trains in this video, but all of the light engine movements when running around make it seem like more. For each movement there was only a few minutes between the gates opening and closing. The first train was in the morning and then I changed sides for the second train just before noon. These locomotives are known as the 81 Class, they are over 30 years old and have nice horns, but some of the newer engines have crappy sounding horns. The station is still used by passenger trains so they keep it in good condition.
One bell on the crossing is dead and the other one is sounding very weak, yet they don't seem too fussed about replacing them. Maybe they think that annoying pedestrian crossing siren is enough warning sound for now
E-bells are used on all new installations in NSW, but for some reason there is still the occasional installation of a mechanical bell to replace an older one. It's probably against the standards but my guess would be they are running short on e-bells, as they are all imported from the U.S. and it can take months for new stock to arrive.
Not all the time are dead mechanical bells replaced by e-bells. One crossing near me had a dying Modern Industries mechanical bell and dead WABCO mechanical bell, but both were fixed rather than replaced.
man i love the sound of the 1st horn
Michael. Got an update. The eastern teardrop bell got replaced with a Western Cullen Hayes mechanical bell when i went to Junee today. Saying that the WC hayes only ring till the gates lowered whilst the teardrop bell on the western side rings till the gates rise.
Thought I let you know. 😀
Thanks Josh. I did see the replacement bell in late November and I'm thinking it probably came from Harefield. Didn't have my camera so only got some phone footage which I'm not entirely happy with. No idea when I'll get there to film it properly, haven't had much time and trying to limit my travels during covid, also not very motivated lol.
@@McKHAust fair enough.wasn't sure if you knew or not. Too easy. I'm looking to go back there next pay and do some train spotting there. I'll be happyto get some footage there while I can.
The Magnetic Autocontrol pedestrian gates are actually manufactured with the alarms built-in. It's just that the railways sometimes decide to use external audible warning devices instead. In Victoria, pretty much all installations of Magnetic Autocontrol gates use the internal alarm.
Ahh ok, thanks for the information. Most crossings in NSW seem to use external alarms for whatever reason. Maybe they just got used to doing it that way back when GRS semaphore mechanisms were used.
Awesome Video!
Sounds like one of the teardrop bells is dead and the other is dying.
At 10:45 what is that thing above the tracks?
Freedomtowerman Productions that's a signal gantry (or signal bridge) which has block signals mounted on it.
Freedomtowerman Productions thanks for watching. They don't seem to be in a hurry to do anything about the dead bell, which could actually be a good thing. If it was going to be replaced then surely it would have been done already?
McK&H Aust Most likely, i know here in america, most mechanical bells that dye, end up getting replaced by electronic bells.
It's the same over here, but normally it happens a bit faster once a bell dies. As of today (January 4th, 2017) it has still not been replaced, so I'm hoping that they may be considering fixing the bell. But then again maybe Christmas and New Year have interrupted the work.
McK&H Aust Could be, or the railroad is lazy and just haven't gotten to it yet lol
Great video think the bell needs some love. Like the fencing hope they leave the teardrop bell alone hate the stop on red signal signs
Yes hopefully the bell survives. The fencing adds a nice look. Not sure why they put up the new signs, the old ones underneath still seem ok.
Black isn't retroreflective, so a sign that is mostly white is easier to notice and see at night.
Wow. I was looking at this crossing the other day in Google Street View. When the video started I recognized it instantly! What are the odds!!
That's cool. I think the fences make the crossing easy to recognize, as most crossings have steel fencing.
Well, for me it was the big obvious signal box, the signal bridge, and the tidy flowers and shrubbery. :D
The teardrop on the western side seems to be dying, too.
Great video! The teardrop sounds like
It’s dying sadly
That's a nice crossing there! Great video! Shame only one teardrop works, and even that guy is starting to die!
Thanks, this is one of my favourite crossings. Hopefully the bell can be repaired, but if not then I hope it gets replaced by another m-bell. The second bell will probably die quicker because it operates continuously now, I got plenty of footage in case they are both replaced.
Any updates on the Teardrop bells here?
I went past the crossing last week on the way back from Wagga Wagga, both teardrop bells were still there but I didn't see the crossing activate so I'm not sure if the dead teardrop bell has been fixed.
bells still there?
Yes.
@@McKHAust well thats good! maybe find out if. they have been repaired someday soon!
@@willpower3544 i went to Junee today. The dead teardrop was replaced witha WC Hayes mechanical bell on the eastern side.
Nice to now know that Australia not only use WCHayes, but also Safetran like America
Yes there's lots of Safetran gate mechanisms and e-bells in Australia.
If this was Victoria, both bells would be long gone now!
Yes it would probably have GS e-bells!
Or most certainly Safetran T3's if it were outside of Melbourne
3:10 did you see the removed track?
Yes it does look like an old track. I never noticed it before.
5:41 what's with the siren? It sounds way different than the UK style alarm!
7:49 the pedestrian gate says 5 tracks, but the road sign says it's 4 tracks!
8:33 are light engines common at this crossing?
9:03 how much time was between the gates opening until this closing? It must not have been too long because the camera is in the exact same spot!
11:56 I think all of the trains in this video so far is the same pair of locos! I find that neat! it can be hard to find the exact same locos again on the same day, if you aren't chasing it!
15:42 nice horn sound! A very classic sounding horn! This is one reason I want to railfan in Australia!
22:28 the station looks nice!
The siren is most likely a UK one, just set to a different tone. It's probably a Klaxon or a Roshni, they are the most common ones here.
The 4th and 5th tracks diverge in the middle of the crossing, so both signs are probably correct. I guess a 4.5 Tracks sign would confuse people lol.
Light engines are very common. Many trains reverse directions here and the engines run around the train, they go up past the crossing and then come back on a different track.
There are only 2 different trains in this video, but all of the light engine movements when running around make it seem like more. For each movement there was only a few minutes between the gates opening and closing. The first train was in the morning and then I changed sides for the second train just before noon.
These locomotives are known as the 81 Class, they are over 30 years old and have nice horns, but some of the newer engines have crappy sounding horns.
The station is still used by passenger trains so they keep it in good condition.
One bell on the crossing is dead and the other one is sounding very weak, yet they don't seem too fussed about replacing them. Maybe they think that annoying pedestrian crossing siren is enough warning sound for now
Yes they certainly aren't in a hurry to do anything, hopefully they don't replace them with e-bells.
They have to. All bell changes and upgrades have to be electronic. Oi, my ears...
E-bells are used on all new installations in NSW, but for some reason there is still the occasional installation of a mechanical bell to replace an older one. It's probably against the standards but my guess would be they are running short on e-bells, as they are all imported from the U.S. and it can take months for new stock to arrive.
Not all the time are dead mechanical bells replaced by e-bells. One crossing near me had a dying Modern Industries mechanical bell and dead WABCO mechanical bell, but both were fixed rather than replaced.