@daviddixon5029The oil industry are subsidized $US 11.000.000.000.000 (forcasted 2025, International Monetary Fund). That's $US 1.300 for every human on earth. Or, $US 38.194 for every car. (1/4 of all oil are used as fuel for cars, 72M car are produced). Then you have the automotive industry. VW and Toyota are the most in debt companies in the world. VW has a marked cap of $US.35 B, and a debt of $US219.94 B. How is this posible? Exept if those loans are subsidies? Inside EU it's not allowed to give subsidies directly, so they give loans. And, when the money are spend on divideds and big bonuses, they are forgiven.
They did the same with the scrappage scheme..... and when they said diesels the best thing since sliced bread 😂😂😂 fumes reek ... 10 years l8r ohhh we need evs . .. when in reality a petrol engine is far cleaner
The correct subsidy to introduce is for home charging installs as you might just tempt used car buyers into the EV market meanwhile the push for EV is just boosting IC engine car residuals. Utterly clueless depreciation is the No1 cost in running a car buying new just endebts the motorist.
All our old cars got destroyed in the awful ‘scrappage schemes’ to prevent us using old, simple bulletproof vehicles without sensitive electronics. When did you last see a Ford Escort? The roads used to be littered with the things. Metro, Punto, 306, Granada, Carlton, 405, Montego, all pretty much extinct.
I think it was Geoff Buys Cars that recently reported that a gang of criminals had stolen all the charge cables from all chargers in Bromsgrove, to nick the copper from them. Not so much range anxiety as charger anxiety. Another reason to not go BEV. The whole ZEV scam is a costly disaster to the tax payer. Keep up the good work SCC.
Another idiotic policy! Dictated to the motorist, by people who have no idea what or how things work. Remember the “Buy diesel as it lowers Co2 emissions “. Diesel prices went up as well as initial purchase price and servicing costs. Then the punitive extra tax (as diesel vehicles are more efficient)because HMG didn’t earn as by much tax! Just waiting to see how, they are going to punish EV users.🤬
Agree. And Miliband still chauffeured in a 5 litre petrol armoured Range Rover. Though, I read Kier Stormer (as he is called in Russia) wants to develop electric power tanks.
@@trevorkendall4720 BUT it won't happen....YOU might find a cure for cancer.....or you're considering doing it.... ITS BS.....FAKE NEWS FOR MORONS TO BELIEVE!
@GlynJONES-e5m I only said I read it and not that I believed it! I read about Starmer' s AI plans. But didn't believe it. China just proved it was a fantasy.
I have just got over Storm Éowyn, 3 days without electricity or central heating. Luckily, I have a fireplace and plenty of coal. I wouldn't want to rely on an EV in an emergency!
@@DaveG7920😆 your missing the point that you will probably have more then enough fuel for miles in your ICE car while the EV would be on charge during a power cut.
@@kickit2504 Some do and that fuel is rationed for emergency vehicles. Most don't. You not seen all the queues at empty fuel stations in the US when there's a big storm.
Who wants a loan of say £50 grand to buy a car that will only be worth £25 grand a year later and your still paying it off. Why would anyone want to put themselves in so much debt might as well throw your money down the drain buying an ev would be a financial nightmare
Plenty people buy German cars that do exactly that. I imagine in this case someone is buying a car for longer term though and will save a lot of petrol money in those years so it will be closer to regular depreciation.
....but the government are going to guarantee your loan so this will be like another sub prime disaster. Car salesmen will sell £80,000 cars to people who clearly can't afford to pay and us taxpayers will foot the bill when the loans are not repaid. The cars will be repossessed and nobody will buy these EV as they will still be expensive and cheaper to buy a new one with a low interest rate subsidised by the gov (us). Same problem is already happening in America due to sub prime car loans by the big banks. A 28% repossession rate that's increasing and the reposessed cars are taking over 400 days to sell so are often scrapped. That is great for co2 emissions given how much is used to make EVs. It's all environmental madness this push to net zero, just make reliable petrol cars that are easy to repair and encourage owners to use them for 20+ years and not buy a new one every 3 years.
Was in a queue of traffic this morn in a narrow, busy Edinburgh street. Saw a chap standing at side of a big Tesla. Couldn't work out why he wasn't just getting in. Then he went round to passenger door and opened it with his phone, turns out, he had those fancy up and over doors and nobody was leaving enough room for the drivers door to swing out and up to let him get in. What a pain in the @rse car.
So, the taxpayers that do not want electric cars helping the few people that want electric cars to purchase electric cars. Sounds about right for this government.
We'll have to switch eventually, either that or hop on the bus. I know what I'd rather do, especially with the cool Tesla's, Renault 5 and other electric cars available.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6kmaybe maybe not, once the massive environmental disaster that is EVs starts coming through. The other thing is it will not be possible to manufacture enough EVs due to the supply issues for the batteries and copper, plus there is no way we will be able to generate enough power to run them. The energy used to charge an EV runs a house for 5 days.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k I won't. I'm aged 88, and was a vehicle mechanic (technician these days) from the age of 15 until I retired at 65. I learned to drive at the age of 12 (private land) in my dad's car, and I'm still driving and riding my motorbike today. I have a Toyota petrol car, And a Yamaha motorbike. My wife has a Škoda diesel car and a Honda motorbike. By the time we have no other option but battery-powered cars, I will be past caring, Those who want to drive around in a battery-powered car, fine, but they are missing one valuable point. Freedom of choice......
If you’ve done 200k miles in an ICE car that 30 tons of fuel and 60 tons of co2. The battery still exist as an object and can be recycled. In the UK your co2 emissions are likely to be less than 20% of that of the ICE car.
Watched the Barrie Crampton....'not the EVangelist news' you tube channel this morning. He was telling us about the eye watering discounts on new 2025 pre reg'd Jaguar i Pace's. THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS discount, all on Autotrader. Desperate times or what....before they go bust? Meanwhile, who'll be paying for these crazy incentives? Correct. Us. The taxpayers. My bladder has all but boiled dry.
@ ney chance i returned to diesel following a brief 6 months with a hybrid, i got concerned that the car kept saying the battery had gone into safe mode and to stop immediately. I was concerned about it bursting into flames with the grandkids in the back. I’ve now got a diesel generator for the house as they can’t guarantee when the power will be restored
Stuck at home with no power, no means to charge the car and no electric buses running either unless you can work from home, your employer has to bear the loss of earnings. How to wreck the UK economy and infrastructure in one idiotic move.
Marvellous decision by stasi Starmer and his storm troopers, cut winter heating allowance to pensioners and give thousands to relatively well off people to buy an EV!
It's game over for EV's anyway. Sales are falling everyone. I don't understand why Europe continues to push EV's while the rest of the world does not give a sh*t.
Because club E.u has an agenda that all countries which are part of the e.u have to abide by or they will be fined. Welcome to club e.u. a dictatorship !
The environ-mental Death Cult think they can save us by covering the planets farmland with windy mills and solar panels lets hope it stays sunny and the wind blows or EVs won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
@@michealridgway7607you need to check yours. EV sales only increased because dealers pre registered then to meet targets and avoid the £15k fine per car for not selling enough EVs. That was the reason sales increased in December when anyone who knows anything about the motor trade knows sales always go down in December as people are spending money on Christmas not new cars. These pre-registered cars still have to be sold to the public.
The thing is our grid can barely sustain the EV's we have. The infrastructure will never be there until we build many more "proper power stations" it is so obvious.
I love my tesla, best daily ive ever owned. I often dismantle a lot of bs you spout but evs should never be subsidised. Its like paying a blackberry owner an amount to go buy an iphone. Let the consumer decide.
To be fair ICE cars are heavily subsidised. It is by no means a level playing field, with huge government subsidies given to the oil industry, that dwarf anything the EV industry might get. I'm all for taking subsidies away, but lets do the same for the ICE car.
Same here. Musk aside,my Model 3 is the best car I have ever owned, Netflix, Chess, RUclips the cars 0-60 performance is crazy, nice warm cabin to get into on a cold day. Most of the haters have probably never driven an electric car but hey each to their own.
@@JDot-dr1yf Of course they haven't. They huddle together in places like these to feel better about themselves and pretend the end of ICE isn't happening, sharing made up horror stories like Cobalt being mined by children, Blind to the truth with no idea of the bigger picture.
All Batteries degrade with time and use cycles. Just like an i phone they are a throw away item but it just takes a bit longer before they are thrown away. I have an EV, with enormous degradation, only any good as a local shopping trolley now before it is finally scrapped.
Wish HMRC would stop inferring that having a company car is a benefit! That stopped in the 70’s, when companies would avoid more tax on salaries by giving the opportunity to have a car!
I can keep my car in the garage. All insurance companies will not cover you if you store it inside a garage. They're shit and expensive. No one wants a ticking time bomb
I wonder if in the past, people switched from horses and carts to motor cars because of government subsidies, or did they just choose what they felt was more practical and useful to them? Electric cars are a con. They are not going to benefit the environment. Furthermore, in the "green" consumer hierarchy, reusing outtrumps recyling and recycling outrumps replacing. I certainly won't be buying a new electric car when there are plenty of used diesels out there.
I looked into electric vehicle ownership years ago, I run a small diesel, prior to the huge rise in electricity prices it worked out more expensive to run even back then, I will add that I live in the centre of town and park my car wherever I can, the advantages of driving a diesel, I can find a filling station, I know how much diesel costs per litre, I know what I've spent straight away and I can pay with cash, I don't need a technical phone or a credit card, I don't want or need those added complications, I used a computer for the first time in May 2024, never needed to or had any cause to use one, my knowledge of computers is minimal, my knowledge of technical phones is zero, I've had a total of 3 mobile phones over the past 30 odd years, they all made phone calls, that's what a phone is for, my present phone is a Nokia 6310i, it's over 20 years old, it still works so why bin it? This government is preaching about the environment, my phone works, it's good enough for me, and as someone who has always paid for everything up front, my phone, electricity, council tax, water rates, I was fortunate enough to have had enough money to buy my own home outright, my car, motorbike all bought outright, I have no credit footprint, not that I would ever buy a depreciating asset on the never never, I wouldn't know what to do, the thought of being in debt would frighten me at my age, all new vehicles are unaffordable for the average working class person, to me, if I had to take out a loan, it's unaffordable
@@davidmacpherson4673all part of the green agenda.... Keep your old car running for as long as possible although the EU are going to try and be stop certain car repairs being carried out such as replacing an engine or welding to promote sales of EV's.
Last week I went to Whitby from Sheffield with a friend who came to mine from Matlock, a journey of 129 miles. He has a Toyota EV SUV thing. His charger at home had broken down so he fuelled up, sorry charged up at Sainsbury’s half a mile from home. Not sure how long it took. As it was very cold he had a range of 220 miles so once in Whitby he had to charge overnight on a 7K charger, he tried two chargers and settled on the 3rd in the West Cliff car park, this took over 5 hours. He walked back to my house and then walked up in the morning to collect the car. I thought two things, I liked the car but could feel the heft, secondly I just couldn’t be arsed!
Even with a low interest loan an EV will see you in negative equity where you owe more than you could sell the car for so a sudden change in circumstances financially would cripple you as your car could easily have £5-£10k in negative equity more on the really high end stuff. This is why the rapid depreciation is such a big problem for buyers. This video already states the other drawbacks you get.
More spending of our taxes….. I though Starmer said there was a £22Bn hole in public finances. Where does he find the money for these incentives……?? More lies exposed from Liebour
They could cut VAT and import duty…. IcE is dead, I want an EV and have a drive way… The problem is clear for those without drive… so rather than moan, what about a solution
Going on a journey in an EV is a nightmare. Chargers that are broken, occupied, switched off or just do not exist. I would never buy another one. Oh, and by the way, I owe more than the car is worth.
Speaking as an ex banker, this is wrong. People already overstretch themselves financially. This is just going to encourage people to borrow more, to buy an ever decreasing asset. It will be partly funded by the people that simply cannot afford to buy any car. The government don't fund anything. Tax payers do. More money spent on subsidies means less money for other things, like funding councils. So your council tax will rise and eventually they will increase income tax and every other tax. We should all know by now, saying they won't, means they will.
The country is trillions in debt, normal people are being taxed to breaking point. Lets use some of the tax to prop up failing EV sales. You couldn't make it up.
I didn't want a car loan the first time around and I haven't changed my mind. How about warnings about governments pushing debt on to consumers? If push came to shove I could always buy a push bike for a few hundred.😉
It's hard to sell a used EV because no one with more than half a brain will buy a used battery which is most of what a used EV is. It's pretty difficult to give one away so you have to pay to have it re-cycled..
@oddizzee You can buy new parts from the manufacturer parts department in the UK. I use a well known Japanese car specialist near me for all my servicing. Insurance is not much more than a UK car. But car tax can be much cheaper.
Govt are panicking, whistling in the dark, totally clueless. I can see leasing companies making rentals a lot dearer or, alternatively, managing their risk by getting the customer to somehow underwrite the residual value in the form of a termination payment or a kind of gap insurance.
Meanwhile those that aren’t retired with a good pot to play with, working from home high up corpos and those that can afford with spare capital such electric nonsense. The rest of us carry on and continue to work and make ends meet. Just more ridiculous policies made by disconnected politicians. Disgusting.
Total madness, the big big problem is the price of electricity, also we don’t have enough electricity, if we all bought electric car and heat are house with heat pump, the grid would fall over! , no green energy is going to be enough, with AI coming in, going to need huge amount of electricity, infrastructure is very old and stretched to max , electrician 45 years
Being an electrician has nothing to do with grid level management, the two jobs are so different neither of you would be qualified to do the other one. We are going to have some trouble ahead of us, mainly from the loss of traditional generation sources and spinning mass on the system, however if humanity can drill some black stuff out of the ground dozens of miles below on a gps stabilised platform our in the rough seas and pump and process that stuff over thousands of miles and dozens of stages. I think we can figure this one out.
@ can see your point , but I know quite a few people who work and manage the grid, and green energy at the moment is just not going to cope, not by a long long way, electricity has to be the way but it has to be cheap, and it’s not, until we can find a way to generate cheaply and clean just can’t see this working
As someone who knows basic economics it's like this: making it easier to get a mortgage drives up house prices. Making it easier to get an EV lowers secondhand EV prices. If people can mortgages more easily there's more competition to buy houses, raises prices. Making easy loans to BtL landlords was a terrible mistake but it was intended to keep them voting Con. Fixing house prices would have involved not voting Conservative from 2010 on, and doing something about BtL landlord subsidies (far bigger than any EV subsidy) and land hogging.
And what happens when lending institutions are unable to support commercial and private borrowers because too much of their capital is tied up with non-performing EV loans? Taxpayers and the economy can only be stretched so far before they snap.
The answer is, buy a hybrid, like a lot of countries are doing. In the USA, China, Australia, India, and other countries Hybrids are out-selling EVs. BYD/Toyota claims their next Toyota Corolla Hybrid will have a range of 2,000 Km. With a hybrid, you don’t have to worry about range or having to go to a charging station. The infrastructure for hybrids is already in place. They are called service stations. Even with subsidies placed on electric cars, a Hybrid may still be cheaper than an EV.
Considering helping rich people to buy expensive cars - having ditched pensioners fuel allowance and looking at taking money away from the disabled. They are worse than the Conservatives.
Even if you can charge at home it’s still going to cost around a grand or more to install your own fuel pump, with a few years warranty and any ongoing maintenance. Plus additional cost if your home electrics need upgrading to support 7kW or you need power to be run to be outlet location.
Wow, taxpayers who cannot afford a new car subsidising rich people who do not need the subsidy - how fair is that., same with heat pumps. Truth is all new cars are out of the reach of 85% of the population..
When the first electric MINIs came out I considered one as a runabout - charging and road tax were both free, so at £300/month when I was spending £250 on fuel alone it would essentially a brand new car for a tenner a week. Of course the carrot of free free charging in Scotland soon ended and now the approach seems to be more of the stick variety, forcing new car buyers into cars they don’t want by restricting supplies of the ones they do.
Bullsh*t! Have you even driven one? Do yourself a favour and take a Tesla Model Y for a test drive, I dare you…. I guarantee you’ll be astonished! Oh, and how come a vehicle that’s “not fit for purpose” happens to be the best selling car in the world for two years running?
EVs are quieter, faster, more comfortable and cheaper to run than ICE provided you can charge at home. I switched 2 years ago and would never go back. I’ll keep my car for at least 7/8 years so depreciation is not a worry. But you’re right that this doesn’t help people without a drive so why not also cap public charge prices while at the same time introduce subsidies for public charger installation? Pretending the transition to EV isn’t happening just risks handing the Chinese a 5 year advantage!
With all the drawbacks that we now know these vehicles bring, anybody who still considers purchasing one, really deserves all that they get. They really are beyond foolish in my honest opinion.
This might explain... "Meanwhile, the gradual tapering off of demand for EVs that has been evident in recent years resulted in the first year of declining sales in 2024. From 2020, annual EV sales have risen 107%, 63%, 29% and 28% respectively. However, 1,985,996 EV registrations last year represented a year-on-year fall of 1.2%. Market share also fell marginally, from 15.7% to 15.4%. By contrast, hybrid sales rose 21% to 1,529,806, dominated by Toyota (738,500 units). "
And why are electric cars with super quick acceleration being promoted by the same government that introduces 20mph speed limits and tells us all to drive much much slower so nobody gets hurt. "Here's the fastest accelerating car you have ever owned in your lifetime now please go away and drive incredibly slowly in it at all times!" Confused? Yup.
Acceleration and speed are different, that's why. An electric bicycle on full assist has higher acceleration up to 15mph than most cars, which is a useful safety factor in towns. In town with lots of traffic lights and 20 limits, acceleration gets you from A to B with maximum legal speeds. I'm across a junction and up to 30 before the typical petrol driver has engaged gear and let the clutch out. It adds up. Sports car like performance without the slightest noise (other than tyres) or fuss grows on you pretty quick. Especially as it is available from cold with no worry about damaging bearings or fouling spark plugs.
@@EbenBransomeHigh acceleration for a driver without the skills to use it would be insanely dangerous. One assumes you hold an advanced licence and a racing licence to demonstrate your proficiency.
There are a small number of people that an EV makes sense for, if you can charge at home and get cheap running in out of a city without paying congestion charges and get discounted parking? then these people may always keep one for that purpose. For the vast majority they make no sense. Picture the scene in 2030 or 2035 which ever we are on when they determine that all vehicles have to be zero emission at the tail pipe. The manufacturers wont have ICE sales to keep them alive, drivers will keep their ICE cars running as long as possible and it may be 15 years before its dead and they have to buy an EV? The manufacturers will not survive the first few years though, the few buyers of EV's that they have wont keep their heads above water untill all the ICE drivers cars have worn out and they have to accept buying an EV, but the manufacturers will have long since gone bust!! 2030 or 2035 will not just be the end of new ICE cars it will be the begining of the end of all car manufacturing!!
UK car industry was wrecked by Brexit, that's no great secret. Even the Brexit supporters understand that. So we won't have much option but to import our cars from elsewhere, especially EVs since we are particularly behind with those. People talk about vast fields full of unsold EVs but that's nonsense. I've been looking at used EV prices down here in Devon and there are no bargains at all. So we're stuck with our old diesel for some years yet, along with the inevitable high servicing costs you get from modern fossil fuel cars.
If the government wanted to incentivise purchases of EVS in UK, then why remove their RFL exemptions - including the 40k+ list price premium - however unfair these were?
It's to late for any incentives to work, we all now know just how bad EVs are in so many ways. They could start giving away EVs with Cornflakes and people still would not want the crap EVs.
If you try to solve a problem that doesn't exist with money you don't have, the economy will go to hell.By now our politicians should have understood that electric cars are not a solution and most people don't want them.
I do not care about £4 per night charging at home. It is not realistic unless you are a hermit or retired. I live on the road and I'm not paying between 59p and 71p per KW at public chargers when most EV's are about 75 to 100kwh. It is NOT cheaper than my Diesel that is doing 58mpg at £7.45 per gallon. Right now there is NO true incentive. You cannot educate EV fanatics.
I'm currently looking for a used petrol Mini Cooper S. On authorised dealer websites then they have lots of 2021 electric versions with 10-15k miles for £13.5k. A similar petrol version is at least £17k. They're clearly struggling to sell electric versions.
So further tax cash from those that can't afford an EV or can't charge them for various reasons, help those wealthy enough to get one, yeah that sounds like a Labour idea.
The charging is not the biggest ussue nowadays. The prices of the usable BEVs are (T3 and TY and their rivals equivalents) and the final nail in the coffin from this Year the LUXURY Vehicle TAX for anything above 40K. There isn't currently any usable BEV vehicles bellow 40K. Low interest rates loans plus £0 Luxury Car Tax for any BEV's might do the trick or try to bring / make a deal for a good Chinese brand and models (not the cheapest) that will sell bellow 40K
MG4 not usable? My S-i-L regularly goes from London to York and back in theirs, without problems. I can think of others, too many to list here. What do you mean by "usable"?
I’m thinking of buying a Jaecoo J7 AWD which has similar spec to a Range Rover but half the price. The company who makes Jaecoo were in partnership with Land Rover. New cars are to expensive and price will always be the biggest player in car sales.
It's a ridiculous situation. I run a cheap diesel car because I do 18-20k miles a year. I currently live in a flat, and life is affordable. If I'm forced into an EV, then I'm also forced into a house with higher interest rates just so I can charge it. Even then, I'll need to use expensive public charging during my work travels and I'll have a lease/loan on the car too and my current £20 a year road tax increases to at least £190, probably more because I'll need an EV with decent range and that will be over £40k and incur the 'luxury tax'. It isn't just a change of car for people in my position, it's a drastic lifestyle change where I go from living comfortably to living pay check to pay check. And I'm not claiming to be poor or on a low income, I'm earning higher than average and living frugally.
The media hacks who are pushing EVs,are reluctant to talk about depreciation,which with subsidies would reduce the value of a brand new EV by 20 percent.
Did you know the government pay millionaire landowners a rate every year just for owning land, have done for years. It's being phased out slowly so now you can get money for leaving land fallow or growing weeds. Cheaper loans on an EV is a long way down the list of government waste
I speculate that this is why Jaguar have decided to rebrand in the way they have and go full electric...I said the government will have to subsidise EV's in order to get them out there and they eill need a company to spearhead it. This is the most likely reason for the woke/EV route that Jaguar has commited to, I expect them to become the socialist governments car of choice. Never forget, Socialism is just communism but a select few get to profit off of the work done by the masses(slavery). Hitler ran a socialist regime and his italiam counter-part was the founder of the italian socialist party. Here come the commy/fascist bastards of labour. Social scores will be next.
EVs are quieter, faster, more comfortable and cheaper to run than ICE provided you can charge at home. I switched 2 years ago and would never go back. I’ll keep my car for at least 7/8 years so depreciation is not a worry. But you’re right that this doesn’t help people without a drive so why not also cap public charge prices while at the same time introduce subsidies for public charger installation?
Ffs any subsidy is paid by us taxpayers! What a waste of our money.
And the money goes to the Chinese taxpayers who are making all the cars!
Not happening sunshine
save the planet by getting folk into debt, it shouldnt be costing a fortune to save the planet
Like the ones built in Sunderland 🤔🤔@@rob_lightbody
@daviddixon5029The oil industry are subsidized $US 11.000.000.000.000 (forcasted 2025, International Monetary Fund).
That's $US 1.300 for every human on earth.
Or, $US 38.194 for every car.
(1/4 of all oil are used as fuel for cars, 72M car are produced).
Then you have the automotive industry.
VW and Toyota are the most in debt companies in the world.
VW has a marked cap of $US.35 B, and a debt of $US219.94 B.
How is this posible? Exept if those loans are subsidies?
Inside EU it's not allowed to give subsidies directly, so they give loans.
And, when the money are spend on divideds and big bonuses, they are forgiven.
Another way for taxpayers to support the well off who can afford expensive cars
Our money down the drain AGAIN.
Nah , it's all about getting cars off the road full stop
Or picking up the tab for bad loans as the industry decides everyone deserves a Gummint guaranteed loan to help save the planet 💰
@24ct_G at our expense dude you forgot that bit
In 3 years when the economy has crashed and hundreds of thousands of EVs coming to the end of contracts, they're back to the same problems.
Welcome to british politics, why pay now when you can pay more later 😂
The current government will probably not still be power in the years time so it will be a problem for the next bunch in Westminster.
@@cameronmmj9291Klarna but worse
Cheap EVs for all? Sounds great!
So why are sales still going up?
Does anyone else object to their tax payments being handed out to the general public to coax them to buy crap cars?
Instead of training more doctors and building new hospitals, they give it to rich people to buy a Model X. You didn't need that operation anyway.
You bet we object 😤
They did the same with the scrappage scheme..... and when they said diesels the best thing since sliced bread 😂😂😂 fumes reek ... 10 years l8r ohhh we need evs . .. when in reality a petrol engine is far cleaner
@gaz10182 correct
The correct subsidy to introduce is for home charging installs as you might just tempt used car buyers into the EV market meanwhile the push for EV is just boosting IC engine car residuals.
Utterly clueless depreciation is the No1 cost in running a car buying new just endebts the motorist.
Bit like the tax eh?? lure them in then hammer them?? ah good old Labour
They could offer me 100% discount on any EV and i would reject it. AND.. I have a driveway.
No you wouldn't
Why?
@@Andy-e8n7gyou got a crystal ball aye
Well, if they offer you one for free, let me know and I'll take it off your hands for £1000. So long as it isn't a Jaguar or a Tesla.
100% discount would be free though.
I went to Cuba and saw the old cars they drive around, the UK is heading in the same direction for very different reasons.
All our old cars got destroyed in the awful ‘scrappage schemes’ to prevent us using old, simple bulletproof vehicles without sensitive electronics.
When did you last see a Ford Escort? The roads used to be littered with the things. Metro, Punto, 306, Granada, Carlton, 405, Montego, all pretty much extinct.
The reason in both cases is government.
I think it was Geoff Buys Cars that recently reported that a gang of criminals had stolen all the charge cables from all chargers in Bromsgrove, to nick the copper from them. Not so much range anxiety as charger anxiety. Another reason to not go BEV. The whole ZEV scam is a costly disaster to the tax payer. Keep up the good work SCC.
Another idiotic policy!
Dictated to the motorist, by people who have no idea what or how things work.
Remember the “Buy diesel as it lowers Co2 emissions “.
Diesel prices went up as well as initial purchase price and servicing costs.
Then the punitive extra tax (as diesel vehicles are more efficient)because HMG didn’t earn as by much tax!
Just waiting to see how, they are going to punish EV users.🤬
Agree. And Miliband still chauffeured in a 5 litre petrol armoured Range Rover. Though, I read Kier Stormer (as he is called in Russia) wants to develop electric power tanks.
@trevorkendall4720 Jesus you people will believe anything !
@@trevorkendall4720 BUT it won't happen....YOU might find a cure for cancer.....or you're considering doing it.... ITS BS.....FAKE NEWS FOR MORONS TO BELIEVE!
By putting up electricity prices, everybody gets to pay more because your neighbours are charging their EVs.
@GlynJONES-e5m I only said I read it and not that I believed it! I read about Starmer' s AI plans. But didn't believe it. China just proved it was a fantasy.
its time we done what trump done and get rid of this backhanding bullshit
Ahh he’s just changing who gets the backhanders, go $TRUMP, get on the train!
I have just got over Storm Éowyn, 3 days without electricity or central heating. Luckily, I have a fireplace and plenty of coal. I wouldn't want to rely on an EV in an emergency!
You do know petrol stations don't work in power cuts don't you.
@@DaveG7920😆 your missing the point that you will probably have more then enough fuel for miles in your ICE car while the EV would be on charge during a power cut.
@@DaveG7920Wrong. Many petrol stations have back-up generators. They are especially needed near emergency vehicle stations.
@@Silver-st2zq Ah I see, power cuts on happen when EV's are on zero charge. LOL.
@@kickit2504 Some do and that fuel is rationed for emergency vehicles. Most don't. You not seen all the queues at empty fuel stations in the US when there's a big storm.
Who wants a loan of say £50 grand to buy a car that will only be worth £25 grand a year later and your still paying it off. Why would anyone want to put themselves in so much debt might as well throw your money down the drain buying an ev would be a financial nightmare
@@robbie2447 plenty of people just don't do their homework first.
Days later... see EV Carnage on here .. Ford EV Van 1,600 miles ... 70% off! Lots .. not just one ..
Sheeple will be sheeple.
Plenty people buy German cars that do exactly that.
I imagine in this case someone is buying a car for longer term though and will save a lot of petrol money in those years so it will be closer to regular depreciation.
....but the government are going to guarantee your loan so this will be like another sub prime disaster. Car salesmen will sell £80,000 cars to people who clearly can't afford to pay and us taxpayers will foot the bill when the loans are not repaid. The cars will be repossessed and nobody will buy these EV as they will still be expensive and cheaper to buy a new one with a low interest rate subsidised by the gov (us). Same problem is already happening in America due to sub prime car loans
by the big banks. A 28% repossession rate that's increasing and the reposessed cars are taking over 400 days to sell so are often scrapped. That is great for co2 emissions given how much is used to make EVs. It's all environmental madness this push to net zero, just make reliable petrol cars that are easy to repair and encourage owners to use them for 20+ years and not buy a new one every 3 years.
3rd runway at Heathrow but subsidies on EVs…. If only someone was actually in power. Private cars are not the problem.
The old "3rd Runway fantasy" that Labour will never let happen but its trotted out to encourage "growth" ! Total BS.
Was in a queue of traffic this morn in a narrow, busy Edinburgh street. Saw a chap standing at side of a big Tesla. Couldn't work out why he wasn't just getting in. Then he went round to passenger door and opened it with his phone, turns out, he had those fancy up and over doors and nobody was leaving enough room for the drivers door to swing out and up to let him get in. What a pain in the @rse car.
So, the taxpayers that do not want electric cars helping the few people that want electric cars to purchase electric cars. Sounds about right for this government.
We'll have to switch eventually, either that or hop on the bus. I know what I'd rather do, especially with the cool Tesla's, Renault 5 and other electric cars available.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6kmaybe maybe not, once the massive environmental disaster that is EVs starts coming through. The other thing is it will not be possible to manufacture enough EVs due to the supply issues for the batteries and copper, plus there is no way we will be able to generate enough power to run them. The energy used to charge an EV runs a house for 5 days.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k I won't. I'm aged 88, and was a vehicle mechanic (technician these days) from the age of 15 until I retired at 65. I learned to drive at the age of 12 (private land) in my dad's car, and I'm still driving and riding my motorbike today. I have a Toyota petrol car, And a Yamaha motorbike. My wife has a Škoda diesel car and a Honda motorbike. By the time we have no other option but battery-powered cars, I will be past caring, Those who want to drive around in a battery-powered car, fine, but they are missing one valuable point. Freedom of choice......
@@barriewilliams4526 More power to your and your good lady's elbow sir!!
@@sunnybnk Thank you.
Can't give them away!
Labour has no idea what to do to grow the economy and this is an idea that is going to transfer money from taxpayers to the well off.
Battery knackered in 5 years then the car is scrap…this isn’t about the planet…even a fool can work that out
The fools in the government are the only ones that can’t work it out though!
If you’ve done 200k miles in an ICE car that 30 tons of fuel and 60 tons of co2. The battery still exist as an object and can be recycled. In the UK your co2 emissions are likely to be less than 20% of that of the ICE car.
@ omg…they exist🤣
The government is not the solution to our problem - government is the problem (Ronald Reagan)
Watched the Barrie Crampton....'not the EVangelist news' you tube channel this morning. He was telling us about the eye watering discounts on new 2025 pre reg'd Jaguar i Pace's. THIRTY TWO THOUSAND POUNDS discount, all on Autotrader. Desperate times or what....before they go bust? Meanwhile, who'll be paying for these crazy incentives? Correct. Us. The taxpayers. My bladder has all but boiled dry.
Jaguar is too small a company to develop EVs on its own and too much of the original price was R&D.
Correction, you watched "straight outta crampton" 😎😅 he just changed the name from a viewer's input
If the prices are the same, let's see if it makes any difference.
It won't.
I’m sat here without electricity after the storms last Friday…they can’t keep electricity in my house never mind a car!!!
Reverse the power back from the car into your house..
@ ney chance i returned to diesel following a brief 6 months with a hybrid, i got concerned that the car kept saying the battery had gone into safe mode and to stop immediately. I was concerned about it bursting into flames with the grandkids in the back. I’ve now got a diesel generator for the house as they can’t guarantee when the power will be restored
@@davidhalliday748 There's your problem you got a hybrid, but if EVs are not right for you at this time that's fine.
@@Andy-e8n7g Only if it has charge.
Stuck at home with no power, no means to charge the car and no electric buses running either unless you can work from home, your employer has to bear the loss of earnings. How to wreck the UK economy and infrastructure in one idiotic move.
Marvellous decision by stasi Starmer and his storm troopers, cut winter heating allowance to pensioners and give thousands to relatively well off people to buy an EV!
Will never be buying a milk float…
It's game over for EV's anyway. Sales are falling everyone. I don't understand why Europe continues to push EV's while the rest of the world does not give a sh*t.
By design to crash the western economies and boost China’s
Because club E.u has an agenda that all countries which are part of the e.u have to abide by or they will be fined.
Welcome to club e.u. a dictatorship !
The environ-mental Death Cult think they can save us by covering the planets farmland with windy mills and solar panels lets hope it stays sunny and the wind blows or EVs won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
You need to check your facts
@@michealridgway7607you need to check yours. EV sales only increased because dealers pre registered then to meet targets and avoid the £15k fine per car for not selling enough EVs. That was the reason sales increased in December when anyone who knows anything about the motor trade knows sales always go down in December as people are spending money on Christmas not new cars. These pre-registered cars still have to be sold to the public.
The thing is our grid can barely sustain the EV's we have. The infrastructure will never be there until we build many more "proper power stations" it is so obvious.
Well I charge overnight at 8.5p a kWh=250 mpg fuel equivalent.95 % of my charging is done this way.
Not true
EV's are a dead-duck.
I love my tesla, best daily ive ever owned. I often dismantle a lot of bs you spout but evs should never be subsidised. Its like paying a blackberry owner an amount to go buy an iphone. Let the consumer decide.
To be fair ICE cars are heavily subsidised. It is by no means a level playing field, with huge government subsidies given to the oil industry, that dwarf anything the EV industry might get. I'm all for taking subsidies away, but lets do the same for the ICE car.
Same here. Musk aside,my Model 3 is the best car I have ever owned, Netflix, Chess, RUclips the cars 0-60 performance is crazy, nice warm cabin to get into on a cold day. Most of the haters have probably never driven an electric car but hey each to their own.
@@JDot-dr1yf Of course they haven't. They huddle together in places like these to feel better about themselves and pretend the end of ICE isn't happening, sharing made up horror stories like Cobalt being mined by children, Blind to the truth with no idea of the bigger picture.
@@daydreamer8373 Agreed, If vehicles get a subsidy i’d like them to be given to ones built in the UK, encourage factories & job growth
All Batteries degrade with time and use cycles. Just like an i phone they are a throw away item but it just takes a bit longer before they are thrown away. I have an EV, with enormous degradation, only any good as a local shopping trolley now before it is finally scrapped.
Wish HMRC would stop inferring that having a company car is a benefit!
That stopped in the 70’s, when companies would avoid more tax on salaries by giving the opportunity to have a car!
I can keep my car in the garage. All insurance companies will not cover you if you store it inside a garage. They're shit and expensive. No one wants a ticking time bomb
BS mate (I've owned electric cars for more than a decade)
@@JDot-dr1yf Gutted for you mate. Sold a dummy.
Not too keen on facts are you
@@JDot-dr1yfI've not had cancer but I'm sure it exists.
Nd I bet you've lost a shitload of money too, fanny!
I wonder if in the past, people switched from horses and carts to motor cars because of government subsidies, or did they just choose what they felt was more practical and useful to them?
Electric cars are a con. They are not going to benefit the environment. Furthermore, in the "green" consumer hierarchy, reusing outtrumps recyling and recycling outrumps replacing. I certainly won't be buying a new electric car when there are plenty of used diesels out there.
I looked into electric vehicle ownership years ago, I run a small diesel, prior to the huge rise in electricity prices it worked out more expensive to run even back then, I will add that I live in the centre of town and park my car wherever I can, the advantages of driving a diesel, I can find a filling station, I know how much diesel costs per litre, I know what I've spent straight away and I can pay with cash, I don't need a technical phone or a credit card, I don't want or need those added complications, I used a computer for the first time in May 2024, never needed to or had any cause to use one, my knowledge of computers is minimal, my knowledge of technical phones is zero, I've had a total of 3 mobile phones over the past 30 odd years, they all made phone calls, that's what a phone is for, my present phone is a Nokia 6310i, it's over 20 years old, it still works so why bin it? This government is preaching about the environment, my phone works, it's good enough for me, and as someone who has always paid for everything up front, my phone, electricity, council tax, water rates, I was fortunate enough to have had enough money to buy my own home outright, my car, motorbike all bought outright, I have no credit footprint, not that I would ever buy a depreciating asset on the never never, I wouldn't know what to do, the thought of being in debt would frighten me at my age, all new vehicles are unaffordable for the average working class person, to me, if I had to take out a loan, it's unaffordable
The problem for the manufacturers will be that people will keep their old used ICE car running and buy nothing new as public are unconvinced.
They are convinced that they don't want one.
Frightening thing is all new cars are shit , no way I’m buying a new car
That's what happens in Norway where new sales of petrol/diesel cars have been banned.
@@davidmacpherson4673all part of the green agenda.... Keep your old car running for as long as possible although the EU are going to try and be stop certain car repairs being carried out such as replacing an engine or welding to promote sales of EV's.
Last week I went to Whitby from Sheffield with a friend who came to mine from Matlock, a journey of 129 miles. He has a Toyota EV SUV thing. His charger at home had broken down so he fuelled up, sorry charged up at Sainsbury’s half a mile from home. Not sure how long it took. As it was very cold he had a range of 220 miles so once in Whitby he had to charge overnight on a 7K charger, he tried two chargers and settled on the 3rd in the West Cliff car park, this took over 5 hours. He walked back to my house and then walked up in the morning to collect the car. I thought two things, I liked the car but could feel the heft, secondly I just couldn’t be arsed!
It’s the back door way of getting mr Joe average off the road ,so that driving will be for the wealthy only .
Even with a low interest loan an EV will see you in negative equity where you owe more than you could sell the car for so a sudden change in circumstances financially would cripple you as your car could easily have £5-£10k in negative equity more on the really high end stuff. This is why the rapid depreciation is such a big problem for buyers. This video already states the other drawbacks you get.
More spending of our taxes….. I though Starmer said there was a £22Bn hole in public finances. Where does he find the money for these incentives……?? More lies exposed from Liebour
They could cut VAT and import duty…. IcE is dead, I want an EV and have a drive way… The problem is clear for those without drive… so rather than moan, what about a solution
Going on a journey in an EV is a nightmare. Chargers that are broken, occupied, switched off or just do not exist. I would never buy another one. Oh, and by the way, I owe more than the car is worth.
And a bit more direct action on chargers could make the situation far worse. Go pikeys!
No way I will have an EV. I am 70 yrs old and would rather give up driving .
Sadly, THAT is exactly what EV mandate is really about. They want us all out of our cars.
Speaking as an ex banker, this is wrong. People already overstretch themselves financially. This is just going to encourage people to borrow more, to buy an ever decreasing asset. It will be partly funded by the people that simply cannot afford to buy any car. The government don't fund anything. Tax payers do. More money spent on subsidies means less money for other things, like funding councils. So your council tax will rise and eventually they will increase income tax and every other tax. We should all know by now, saying they won't, means they will.
It's having an EV that has helped my wife keep driving. I suspect you've never tried one.
The country is trillions in debt, normal people are being taxed to breaking point. Lets use some of the tax to prop up failing EV sales. You couldn't make it up.
UK Brings Back EV Incentives… HUGE Mistake?.... No !
The mistake is paying these cnts your taxes ;D
I didn't want a car loan the first time around and I haven't changed my mind. How about warnings about governments pushing debt on to consumers? If push came to shove I could always buy a push bike for a few hundred.😉
Lol, my ICE with 375bhp gets 30mpg + on a run. 😂😂😂
Elecktrickery is for R/C cars and nowt else.
I wonder what tax hikes will take place to pay for this madness!
It's hard to sell a used EV because no one with more than half a brain will buy a used battery which is most of what a used EV is. It's pretty difficult to give one away so you have to pay to have it re-cycled..
Tax payers should have a say about their taxes. Stuck Fatmer
I will import my next car from Japan no. Matter what happens
That's what I just did. It got delivered on Monday.
I imported mine from Sunderland
How do you get these cars serviced or repaired as Uk car dealers will not want to deal with imported cars? Also is a higher insurance a concern
@oddizzee insurance is no problem
Servicing is standard subaru parts nothing different from UK cars
@oddizzee You can buy new parts from the manufacturer parts department in the UK. I use a well known Japanese car specialist near me for all my servicing.
Insurance is not much more than a UK car. But car tax can be much cheaper.
Govt are panicking, whistling in the dark, totally clueless.
I can see leasing companies making rentals a lot dearer or, alternatively, managing their risk by getting the customer to somehow underwrite the residual value in the form of a termination payment or a kind of gap insurance.
The government are totally missing the point. Without a cap on charging prices at charging stations, without more stations, it will never work.
Ah yes the borrowing taxing addict also known as government "helping" once again
Meanwhile those that aren’t retired with a good pot to play with, working from home high up corpos and those that can afford with spare capital such electric nonsense. The rest of us carry on and continue to work and make ends meet. Just more ridiculous policies made by disconnected politicians. Disgusting.
Total madness, the big big problem is the price of electricity, also we don’t have enough electricity, if we all bought electric car and heat are house with heat pump, the grid would fall over! , no green energy is going to be enough, with AI coming in, going to need huge amount of electricity, infrastructure is very old and stretched to max , electrician 45 years
Being an electrician has nothing to do with grid level management, the two jobs are so different neither of you would be qualified to do the other one.
We are going to have some trouble ahead of us, mainly from the loss of traditional generation sources and spinning mass on the system, however if humanity can drill some black stuff out of the ground dozens of miles below on a gps stabilised platform our in the rough seas and pump and process that stuff over thousands of miles and dozens of stages. I think we can figure this one out.
@ can see your point , but I know quite a few people who work and manage the grid, and green energy at the moment is just not going to cope, not by a long long way, electricity has to be the way but it has to be cheap, and it’s not, until we can find a way to generate cheaply and clean just can’t see this working
EV purchase with a cheap loan is a downhill race to oblivion for private buyers.
Depreciation, insurance and running costs …the list goes on.
Good video 👍 Ludicrous that folk would get rid of an already built, perfectly useful car, in favour of some junk that you buy with a government loan.
We don’t need incentives, we need infrastructure
Massive massive mistake
FA help for people to get a mortgage - on a appreciating asset but help for buying a massively depreciating EV. Makes sense 😂
As someone who knows basic economics it's like this: making it easier to get a mortgage drives up house prices. Making it easier to get an EV lowers secondhand EV prices. If people can mortgages more easily there's more competition to buy houses, raises prices. Making easy loans to BtL landlords was a terrible mistake but it was intended to keep them voting Con.
Fixing house prices would have involved not voting Conservative from 2010 on, and doing something about BtL landlord subsidies (far bigger than any EV subsidy) and land hogging.
Just bought a zeeker 007, it’s the same car as the lotus, both companies are Chinese and are eventually going to be assembled in wales 🏴 😊😊😊
And what happens when lending institutions are unable to support commercial and private borrowers because too much of their capital is tied up with non-performing EV loans? Taxpayers and the economy can only be stretched so far before they snap.
The answer is, buy a hybrid, like a lot of countries are doing. In the USA, China, Australia, India, and other countries Hybrids are out-selling EVs. BYD/Toyota claims their next Toyota Corolla Hybrid will have a range of 2,000 Km. With a hybrid, you don’t have to worry about range or having to go to a charging station. The infrastructure for hybrids is already in place. They are called service stations.
Even with subsidies placed on electric cars, a Hybrid may still be cheaper than an EV.
Just make lots of cash and buy a v8 supercar and live life the rich do..
Considering helping rich people to buy expensive cars - having ditched pensioners fuel allowance and looking at taking money away from the disabled.
They are worse than the Conservatives.
Even if you can charge at home it’s still going to cost around a grand or more to install your own fuel pump, with a few years warranty and any ongoing maintenance. Plus additional cost if your home electrics need upgrading to support 7kW or you need power to be run to be outlet location.
Wow, taxpayers who cannot afford a new car subsidising rich people who do not need the subsidy - how fair is that., same with heat pumps. Truth is all new cars are out of the reach of 85% of the population..
When the first electric MINIs came out I considered one as a runabout - charging and road tax were both free, so at £300/month when I was spending £250 on fuel alone it would essentially a brand new car for a tenner a week. Of course the carrot of free free charging in Scotland soon ended and now the approach seems to be more of the stick variety, forcing new car buyers into cars they don’t want by restricting supplies of the ones they do.
Nobody's fooled by EVs anymore. Not fit for purpose.
Bullsh*t! Have you even driven one? Do yourself a favour and take a Tesla Model Y for a test drive, I dare you…. I guarantee you’ll be astonished! Oh, and how come a vehicle that’s “not fit for purpose” happens to be the best selling car in the world for two years running?
Okay! If these subsidies come in, the EV prices will go up, obviously!!!
Waiting for an EV fire sale! 😂
EVs are quieter, faster, more comfortable and cheaper to run than ICE provided you can charge at home. I switched 2 years ago and would never go back. I’ll keep my car for at least 7/8 years so depreciation is not a worry.
But you’re right that this doesn’t help people without a drive so why not also cap public charge prices while at the same time introduce subsidies for public charger installation?
Pretending the transition to EV isn’t happening just risks handing the Chinese a 5 year advantage!
With all the drawbacks that we now know these vehicles bring, anybody who still considers purchasing one, really deserves all that they get. They really are beyond foolish in my honest opinion.
If EV's were so great, they wouldn't need incentives. They would sell themselves.
Tax payers money used for subsidies but council tax goes up 25%. UK economy is upside down.
This might explain...
"Meanwhile, the gradual tapering off of demand for EVs that has been evident in recent years resulted in the first year of declining sales in 2024. From 2020, annual EV sales have risen 107%, 63%, 29% and 28% respectively. However, 1,985,996 EV registrations last year represented a year-on-year fall of 1.2%.
Market share also fell marginally, from 15.7% to 15.4%.
By contrast, hybrid sales rose 21% to 1,529,806, dominated by Toyota (738,500 units). "
Have you seen barrie crampons video, knocking thousands off brand new ev's to try and sell them. But still no one wants them
Well said mate. EVs are already obsolete, I feel sorry for anyone who bought one. Massive liability.
oh no panic!!! /sarcasm {at 75P still 2x cheaper than a petrol car 1.2L} [ it takes 10 minutes to Google this and prove this guy wrong]
And why are electric cars with super quick acceleration being promoted by the same government that introduces 20mph speed limits and tells us all to drive much much slower so nobody gets hurt. "Here's the fastest accelerating car you have ever owned in your lifetime now please go away and drive incredibly slowly in it at all times!" Confused? Yup.
Acceleration and speed are different, that's why. An electric bicycle on full assist has higher acceleration up to 15mph than most cars, which is a useful safety factor in towns.
In town with lots of traffic lights and 20 limits, acceleration gets you from A to B with maximum legal speeds. I'm across a junction and up to 30 before the typical petrol driver has engaged gear and let the clutch out. It adds up. Sports car like performance without the slightest noise (other than tyres) or fuss grows on you pretty quick. Especially as it is available from cold with no worry about damaging bearings or fouling spark plugs.
@@EbenBransomeHigh acceleration for a driver without the skills to use it would be insanely dangerous. One assumes you hold an advanced licence and a racing licence to demonstrate your proficiency.
There are a small number of people that an EV makes sense for, if you can charge at home and get cheap running in out of a city without paying congestion charges and get discounted parking? then these people may always keep one for that purpose. For the vast majority they make no sense.
Picture the scene in 2030 or 2035 which ever we are on when they determine that all vehicles have to be zero emission at the tail pipe. The manufacturers wont have ICE sales to keep them alive, drivers will keep their ICE cars running as long as possible and it may be 15 years before its dead and they have to buy an EV? The manufacturers will not survive the first few years though, the few buyers of EV's that they have wont keep their heads above water untill all the ICE drivers cars have worn out and they have to accept buying an EV, but the manufacturers will have long since gone bust!! 2030 or 2035 will not just be the end of new ICE cars it will be the begining of the end of all car manufacturing!!
UK car industry was wrecked by Brexit, that's no great secret. Even the Brexit supporters understand that. So we won't have much option but to import our cars from elsewhere, especially EVs since we are particularly behind with those. People talk about vast fields full of unsold EVs but that's nonsense. I've been looking at used EV prices down here in Devon and there are no bargains at all. So we're stuck with our old diesel for some years yet, along with the inevitable high servicing costs you get from modern fossil fuel cars.
Does this apply only to new EVs or also the depreciated second hand ones?
It's only a huge mistake if people fall for the incentives.
If the government wanted to incentivise purchases of EVS in UK, then why remove their RFL exemptions - including the 40k+ list price premium - however unfair these were?
I can run my 2.0 litre Audi cheaper than my 7 month old Nissan Leaf using public chargers. Scary and really annoying. Subbed. 👍
It's to late for any incentives to work, we all now know just how bad EVs are in so many ways. They could start giving away EVs with Cornflakes and people still would not want the crap EVs.
Why did people vote for this government !? It’s driving me crazy, it’s a nightmare !
If you try to solve a problem that doesn't exist with money you don't have, the economy will go to hell.By now our politicians should have understood that electric cars are not a solution and most people don't want them.
Still won’t sale 🤣🤣🤣
Faux laughter..
I do not care about £4 per night charging at home. It is not realistic unless you are a hermit or retired. I live on the road and I'm not paying between 59p and 71p per KW at public chargers when most EV's are about 75 to 100kwh. It is NOT cheaper than my Diesel that is doing 58mpg at £7.45 per gallon. Right now there is NO true incentive. You cannot educate EV fanatics.
As a UK taxpayer - how does this help growth for Britain? If it was only on British made vehicles ... Maybe.
Cost under £25000, physically can't catch fire, charge in under five minutes, 500 mile range and weigh less than a tonne. Then they'll sell.
I'm currently looking for a used petrol Mini Cooper S. On authorised dealer websites then they have lots of 2021 electric versions with 10-15k miles for £13.5k. A similar petrol version is at least £17k. They're clearly struggling to sell electric versions.
So further tax cash from those that can't afford an EV or can't charge them for various reasons, help those wealthy enough to get one, yeah that sounds like a Labour idea.
so if you dont keep up payments does the government have to pay
The charging is not the biggest ussue nowadays. The prices of the usable BEVs are (T3 and TY and their rivals equivalents) and the final nail in the coffin from this Year the LUXURY Vehicle TAX for anything above 40K. There isn't currently any usable BEV vehicles bellow 40K. Low interest rates loans plus £0 Luxury Car Tax for any BEV's might do the trick or try to bring / make a deal for a good Chinese brand and models (not the cheapest) that will sell bellow 40K
MG4 not usable? My S-i-L regularly goes from London to York and back in theirs, without problems. I can think of others, too many to list here. What do you mean by "usable"?
I’m thinking of buying a Jaecoo J7 AWD which has similar spec to a Range Rover but half the price. The company who makes Jaecoo were in partnership with Land Rover. New cars are to expensive and price will always be the biggest player in car sales.
It's a ridiculous situation. I run a cheap diesel car because I do 18-20k miles a year. I currently live in a flat, and life is affordable. If I'm forced into an EV, then I'm also forced into a house with higher interest rates just so I can charge it. Even then, I'll need to use expensive public charging during my work travels and I'll have a lease/loan on the car too and my current £20 a year road tax increases to at least £190, probably more because I'll need an EV with decent range and that will be over £40k and incur the 'luxury tax'. It isn't just a change of car for people in my position, it's a drastic lifestyle change where I go from living comfortably to living pay check to pay check. And I'm not claiming to be poor or on a low income, I'm earning higher than average and living frugally.
The media hacks who are pushing EVs,are reluctant to talk about depreciation,which with subsidies would reduce the value of a brand new EV by 20 percent.
Surely a subsidy on EVs is basically a subsidy for the middle classes.
Government guaranteeing loans, is this a new Freddie Mac or Fannae Mae
Did you know the government pay millionaire landowners a rate every year just for owning land, have done for years. It's being phased out slowly so now you can get money for leaving land fallow or growing weeds.
Cheaper loans on an EV is a long way down the list of government waste
@@DaveG7920 I expect he's a Reform voter who doesn't realise how the owners of Reform make their money.
I speculate that this is why Jaguar have decided to rebrand in the way they have and go full electric...I said the government will have to subsidise EV's in order to get them out there and they eill need a company to spearhead it. This is the most likely reason for the woke/EV route that Jaguar has commited to, I expect them to become the socialist governments car of choice. Never forget, Socialism is just communism but a select few get to profit off of the work done by the masses(slavery). Hitler ran a socialist regime and his italiam counter-part was the founder of the italian socialist party. Here come the commy/fascist bastards of labour. Social scores will be next.
The parked up unsold EV's if not charged will suffer battery degrading when they drop below 20% level.
EVs are quieter, faster, more comfortable and cheaper to run than ICE provided you can charge at home. I switched 2 years ago and would never go back. I’ll keep my car for at least 7/8 years so depreciation is not a worry.
But you’re right that this doesn’t help people without a drive so why not also cap public charge prices while at the same time introduce subsidies for public charger installation?