I'm confused that team you fought at 15:00 with anihilators meph all opened with their ults.And it saw it with other characters like hank as well. I thought Jean Grey was suppose to reduce starting energy by 10 for the enemy team?
@@PeterParker-q6p on the 2nd test I didn't have the full Immortal X-Men team so they get to start with their Specials. Black Panther Shuri gives ability energy on the Special so Hank could Ult on turn 1.
Yeah it's making a slight change to defense I think, but nothing too impactful. It's nice that people can build this team and leave New Warriors behind I guess?
Yeah I know they did some testing for balancing and I guess it would have been too powerful. Example dropping Cable for Nightcrawler with all the synergy would have been pretty powerful.
The latest Crucible team not being able to deal with the latest Mythics has been the norm for years. When Masters of Evil and New Warriors came out, those teams could one shot everything except the Skrull and Apoc rooms.
@@hanzohasashi4534 yeah since this team can beat the Annihilators Super Skrull team that still leaves 2 monster defense teams, but they still don't really answer any of the questions so I don't know what their purpose was supposed to be.
@@DacierGamingthe fact that they roll over Annihilators plus SuS is pretty valuable, no? If they could roll Illuminate-Odin as well, crucible would be solved and would surely become very boring.
@iainbain9508 beating annihilators sus isn't valuable, imo just because m4m can do it. They should be able to beat vanilla illuminati imo. At the very least
@@vontedabest The Merc for Money is scary so having this be more reliable is good. You need to adjust your defense based on this, which I'll be releasing an updated defense video for this weekend.
I'm confused that team you fought at 15:00 with anihilators meph all opened with their ults.And it saw it with other characters like hank as well. I thought Jean Grey was suppose to reduce starting energy by 10 for the enemy team?
@@chrisandrews3979 she reduced Special Ability Energy by 10. They still can use their Ultimates.
How does Hank ult turn 1?
@@PeterParker-q6p He doesnt ult turn 1 but does it right after.
@@PeterParker-q6p on the 2nd test I didn't have the full Immortal X-Men team so they get to start with their Specials. Black Panther Shuri gives ability energy on the Special so Hank could Ult on turn 1.
@@DacierGaming Ah so its just for special ability. ok, that makes more sense. Still doesn't explain how they all used their ults so fast.
Mephisto Ulted on turn 1 because he hit Kahori's charge with his Empowered attack which triggered Thanos' passive.
Ah I guess that makes sense. Thanks!
That is such a good point you made. What questions/problem does this team answer/solve? Basically not much if anything we really need it to.😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah it's making a slight change to defense I think, but nothing too impactful. It's nice that people can build this team and leave New Warriors behind I guess?
It helps solve some players having too much gold. 😮
@@mrstephen43084 haha the level cap will fix that too 🤣😂
Why did Odin use his Special on 1st turn? (fight vs Odin+Illuminati)
For the 2nd match against them I took out Polaris for Echo. Jean Grey needs the full team to remove the 10 ability energy from the enemy.
The real question we need answered is, whens the dacier v zero rematch?!
Haha hopefully we don't have to wait too long!
How does Immortal X-men handle a straight Illuminati team without Odin?
How could you already have Jean Grey, and that level power? Damn
This was on the test server so we were given Jean Grey at 5 yellow 5 red for this.
@DacierGaming oh okay 🙏
I don't like the fact that she needs full team, She should have been a support for any team
Yeah I know they did some testing for balancing and I guess it would have been too powerful. Example dropping Cable for Nightcrawler with all the synergy would have been pretty powerful.
The latest Crucible team not being able to deal with the latest Mythics has been the norm for years. When Masters of Evil and New Warriors came out, those teams could one shot everything except the Skrull and Apoc rooms.
@@hanzohasashi4534 yeah since this team can beat the Annihilators Super Skrull team that still leaves 2 monster defense teams, but they still don't really answer any of the questions so I don't know what their purpose was supposed to be.
@@DacierGamingthe fact that they roll over Annihilators plus SuS is pretty valuable, no? If they could roll Illuminate-Odin as well, crucible would be solved and would surely become very boring.
@iainbain9508 beating annihilators sus isn't valuable, imo just because m4m can do it. They should be able to beat vanilla illuminati imo. At the very least
@@vontedabest The Merc for Money is scary so having this be more reliable is good. You need to adjust your defense based on this, which I'll be releasing an updated defense video for this weekend.
@ Sinister 6 OML rips up vanilla Illuminati though, so having a team which saves you needing to use OML on Annihilators is a very useful thing