FLIR vs FLUKE High-End Multimeter Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Part 1: This video presents the FLIR vs FLUKE options - specifically compares FLIR DM92 and FLIR DM93 to the Fluke 179, Fluke 289, and the Fluke 87 V. This is a high-end multimeter with LoZ, VFD, dB, peak auto hold, max auto hold, IP54 rating, independent laboratory tested by UL, TrueRMS, and many more features. #Fluke289 #Fluke87V #FLIRDM93
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Link to FLIR meters in Amazon:
FLIR DM92 multimeter: amzn.to/2ztKOXI
FLIR DM93 multimeter: amzn.to/3swaCOp
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Fluke 117 multimeter link: amzn.to/2AhsEbA
Amazon Commercial 90DM030 multimeter: amzn.to/2Jl9yCT
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Had no idea flir even had multimeter stuff, looks really awesome! Great vid, been looking for some high end multimeters and thought fluke was the end game but now I might not get a fluke after all.
Thanks for your feedback! Yes, I think Flir is still trying to innovate. Fluke seems to have been taken over by bean counters and I living on a name. Too bad:) just IMHO;)
I recently started fallowing your channel. Love your style of reviews! I like the in depth breakdown of and side info of every thing. Super informative.
Welcome aboard! Thank so much for your feedback!
Nice job Eddy! It is our 37th year wedding anniversary - but my great wife lets me see my videos even today! The 13th is lucky - my son was born on Friday the 13th and our daughter started on 13th evening, but was born on Valentines Day, 14th! We purchased couple houses on the 13th, so we love the 13th anything!!! Thanks for your videos Eddy!
Tony - she sounds like a keeper:) I'm glad that the 13th is a lucky day - I'm going to think of it this way now;) Happy Anniversary!
@@KissAnalog Glad to change one more person's lucky day also to number 13!!!
I like the separate on/off switch idea. My Fluke 87 has been just that--a fluke. When it is not being used and the rotary switch is in the off position, it has an intermittent anomoly where the display flashes on and off and can run the battery down. i have sent it in to fluke for repair in the past because the resistance measurement stopped working. I like the meter, but for what they cost vs the problems I have had, I won't buy any more fluke products if better value options exist
I really like some of the lower cost meters better than Flukes. I used to be a hardcore Fluke fan.
I like your style, it looks like you have found your way to make videos and I think it works. Only comment is the transitions that are big, it feels a bit like my vision suddenly get out of focus. I'll try to find a video on RUclips with a fading transition.
I like your way to show things in this video, you have placed it on the table and that do it a lot easier for the camera to focus. You may sometimes see videos where a person tries to hold the item, near to the camera. That do very often result in the camera trying to keep focus on the table, while the presenter try to get focus on the item. To day were the glare from the lamps both good and illustrative, but if you want to avoid reflections, can you try to use a circular pol-filter, it's a bit expensive but do nearly totally remove any reflections, making it easier to read from displays and so on.
Thank you Fried Mule! I'll have to look into the filter. I didn't mean for this review to be so long, so maybe I need to work a bit more on that...
@@KissAnalog hmm no maybe did you not want to make the video that long, but what would you cut out? If you look at the review, did you go trough much of the important and nothing were irrelevant. Only your start of the video would then be something to cut in, but again, if you had done that, had you also cut in the part that make your video different from others. You have a certain style and tempo that make it your videos, your channel and to change that would only make your videos mainstream and perhaps boring. I did once follow a woodworker who's channel is called WoodWorking for Mere Mortals or WWMM for short, it was a great channel with lots of interesting input, a lot of him and you were in his shop, visiting him. Then did he got the idea to make them shorter, faster paced and did end up cutting "his personality" out, it ended up being a channel where you see him make an intro, cut the wood in fast camera-angle cuts and then the assembly, only with a few comments. Everything I subscribed for is gone and I don't even know if he still makes video anymore.
IP ingress protection.
1st is the physical ingress (0-6), 2nd liquid (0-8, 9 rarely used) X stands for no data available, it is used for both. Sometimes you will find more than 2 codes but rarely used these days.
2 codes appears to be norm.
Hope it helps
Thank you for the great feedback!
Love flir meters. I've got the DM93 and the VT8-1000.
Thanks! I do have the DM93. I will do a review of this next to the DM92. Great meter. How do you like the VT8-1000? I have not tried that meter.
I really like it! I like it over the Fluke T5/T6 because the Flir also does capacitance whereas the fluke just does voltage, continuity, and amps. I only wish there was a way to adapt a magnetic strap to it.
I'm using VT8-1000 as well, great clamp meter. And I also think about DM93 or Fluke Multimeter, your comment made me go with Flir now.
Hi Eddie, thank you for the awesome video.
Thank you!
fluke is great stuff and you don't ask the price... other wise check the other brands to save some money on a hobby budget... ☕ thanks nice video 😉
Thanks I completely agree;) Although I think the next time I have a lab manager say he’s buying multimeters, I’ll request a Hioki;)
Nice infomercial for Flir
Thank you!
You say the Flukes don’t have a low-pass filter for VFDs, but the 289 and 87 certainly do. The 87 also has 10x better basic DC accuracy than the Flir reviewed here, the 289, 20x. It surprises me that you’d prefer the Flir despite its rather low accuracy specs.
I realize accuracy isn’t everything. I also realize I’m being a bit critical, but you should make sure your statements are accurate so your viewers aren’t misled.
Looks like I was myself misled by the Flir website, which says this: “DC Voltage
Max Range 1000.0V / Basic Accuracy ±0.5%”
Thanks for pointing this out. I did miss on the VFD, the 289 and 87 do have a 'low pass' filter, but I missed when I searched for this as back 17 years ago when the 289 came out it wasn't common to call it VFD, and the 87 is even much older. Also, I meant to compare this more to the 179 as it is closer in price to the FLIR, although the 179 is still over $100 more than the FLIR. The 87 actually is almost the same in accuracy in every category as the FLIR and it cost $200 more. The Flir is better in AC voltage accuracy. The 289 is almost the same as the FLIR except it is 2x better in DCV but is 2 digits off vs 1 digit for the FLIR so that brings the 2x down a bit depending on the range. The 289 is more than 2x the cost of the FLIR and almost 2x heavier. The closer you look - the better the FLIR looks. Also the Ingress protection is much better on the FLIR as well as the FLIR having a 3 meter drop compared to the 1 meter drop test on both the 87 and the 289. FLIR is a far better buy.
Nice meter but I’ll take a fluke.., it’s a trust thing and I really don’t need a flashlight or other gizmos..
Thank you for the feedback. This is why Flike is still in business + not because they have the better product. Even if the Fluke didn’t cost a lot more and was the same price, I’d still take the FLIR which has better features and better display. And by the way comes with excellent test leads. Fluke is living on a legend and is not what they once were IMHO;)
Well
Finally someone is comparing Flir vs fluke!!
Flir has been bashed as Extech!!! Many techs are afraid of Flir.
Flukes are great meters but you end up buying 2 or even 3 meters due to lack of features; especially for HVAC!!!
Flir is up and coming fast! Just untested!!
That is where fluke wins easily.
Nice video 👍👌!!!
I had the Flir cm83 clamp meter but ended up selling it as my duties changed.
I agree, the Fluke meters are still kind of old school - they just haven't added features, and why would they? Big companies buy them by the truckload just because they are proven. They don't even consider another brand. I like Extech too - and for the price they are hard to beat. They too come with an outside agency test certification - or at least the ones that I have seen do. The FLIR is built very impressively. Thank you for the feedback!!
I will have to buy a 2nd meter because my $400.00 Flir will not do microamps but I do still like my Flir CM85
Yeah, except the 902FC’s and 37x series Flukes were recalled for failed safeties. Lots of 902FC users report the current clamp failing after 6 months. My $100 UEI never had that problem. I don’t mind paying for reliability and safety in a meter but when Fluke offers neither of those and lack features in a Chinese built meter then what are you paying for?
@@KissAnalog I have a flir dm166 and I love it. I have yet to use all its features but I’m sold on this one and don’t regret buying it at all.
Hi perfect men
Unboxing fluk 179✌
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Thanks for your feedback! I appreciate you!
13:38 I like to see some demo how the LoZ works, i never seen a video that demonstrate this in a DMM review.
If i'm correct, this option will reduce the "ghostvoltages" that isolation transformators have between the secundairy coil and core, by using a lower internal resistance, almost like a analog voltmeter does?
Yes! If you can afford it, you can get LO Z on Fluke 289, but this meter has some extras that I would like to get tonight!
Thank you Bjorn! Yes, you are correct, that is what it is meant to be used for. Great to hear from you!
@@KissAnalog , so if you want to do a LoZ measuring with a DMM that doesn't have this option, you can place a 1W resistor with the same value as the internal impedance of the DMM in parallel accross your leads?
Because in some service manuals of old radiogear, they mention that the voltages measurements must be done with a voltmeter with a impedance of only 500 or 50Kohm. Like the analog meters back in the days.
Take look at videos of SamuraiRepairman! He uses LoZ function day and night.
@@roseelectronics4582 thx for the tip, in the meanwhile in 8 months is much happent, i have now a new DMM with Loz mode ;-) Grtz
The flir should have ir display haha
The reed instruments r5010 I've been researching is ip67 third party verified and 40,000 counts. The only thing keeping me from buying it is I want to see a tear down but one doesn't exist haha
Thanks Joey - I do want to buy one of those FLIR IR meters;)
Here's your reed meter - or something very close to it. The amazon commercial (or CEM meter): ruclips.net/video/wfFG8v-RPQ8/видео.html
Hi Eddie
I'm looking for an answer from either you or anybody reading this, ive just bought the flir dm93 I think that's the one above yours, the the one with the Bluetooth, sooo when in continuity mode there's a short break in the audible tone, right at the very beginning, kinda like ....bip=beeeep thats the only way I can describe it lol, ive noticed yours does it aswell, also there's another review of the dm93 on utube by that mj lorton guy and his does it aswell, I'm finding it very frustrating, have you any idea why they do this, is there a purpose to it, or just a cheap buzzer, ? Any help appreciated Eddie, many thanks, and a great channel you have here 😀
This is interesting. I tested my 92 and it does the same thing. It is very fast, so I think it is two functions, one that is set to react fast to give that beep, and then the second continous tone if the continuity is still there. The level of ohms can be set too which is nice. I think the single beep is there for intermittent shorts, so it is set very fast and beeps to show it caught a transient short. It might have been nice if they had designed the first beep to extend a bit longer to overlap the second beep so that the double beep wasn't there. But then again, maybe they want it short so that it will beep beep beep if there is intermittent connections and they didn't want to cover that up??
Ok thanks Eddie, not really sure i understand all that, I just don't see why it needs a break, but never mind it still works, on a side note, a couple of years back when rs components discontinued the iso tech name to launch the rs pro brand a lot of iso tech stuff turned up on ebay going really cheap, I bought the iso tech idm 505, this is really the appa idm 505, this meter did the exact same thing with the break in the buzzer tone, I gave that one away to a friend who lost a lot of his tools in a bad house flood, river burst its Bank, so he was happy with that meter for free anyway, the idm 505 had all the same company logo/ trade marks on the circuit board as the flir dm93, thats how I know appa build the flir meters, the triangle probes and the temp probes are also appa items, nothing to do with flir, maybe flir have some design input but they don't make them, on the dm284/285 flir probably provide the thermal camera chip, but thats probably it, anyway thanks for your help Eddie, I may try ringing flir in the week for an answer they have a free global technical help line, I rang a couple of weeks ago regarding something else, it was like talking to a brick wall, lol 😆 flipping useless and I was only after a case for me meter, I'm liking that hioki you reviewed may have to get one of them aswell, good bye 👋
FLUKE for the win. Plain and simple.
La 98 Nothing wrong with a FLUKE fan;) Thanks for the feedback!
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That's Great - thank you!
Fluke it's overrated just like Scrap-On, I have the Fluke 233 with the wireless display and it drains the batteries even when it's off, you need to put new batteries every time you need it, I also have the "fancy" Fluke process meter 789 and the main switch was too loose that it would turn on in my backpack or it would turn off when in use by vibration, I had to take it apart and fix it my self, Now I have a Flir DM285 and the DM166 both with thermal imaging
Wow, thanks for that feedback! I really like the Flir meters, and that DM166 with the IR camera built in is a great price at $299 which is $200 off: amzn.to/3d1zHFY
No micro amps on the flir?
No Mark, but I have read down to 1 mA with no problem. I'll have to experiment more with it now that I have it out of the box. But it does do so much more - I have other meters to read uA - but kind of strange - it would have had it all;)
"Right around $300 on Amazon"
Funny thing, that. I bought mine for $318, and by the time I got it a week later, the price on Amazon jumped to $485. Thanks Joe Biden.
Thanks for the feedback! Wow - timing is everything!
Fluke better !
There's a true believer;) I used to think so, but you have to pay a lot more for the same specs that FLIR provides at great quality.
@@KissAnalog yes,but the material and the quality are much better. Including the case.
Your content is good however I suggest that you try to make a script for each video and stick to it, just to avoid the pauses and transitions and making the video short and to the point. Thank you I wish you all the best!
Thank you Firas! I'll try to working on this - and thank you for your great feedback!
@@KissAnalog You're doing a great job. Keep up the good work and thanks for all you do
I’m disappointed in you Eddie. No fire lighting demo on continuity! :)
LOL I ran out of time;)
FLIR?
Put it against fluke 279 with IR Thermal Camera.
I’d love to compare their IR models, but the Fluke 279 is nearly $900. They are proud of that meter:)
The only thing fluke is the best at is marketing. They aren’t worth the price.
I’d have to agree with you. I also don’t find that they have the best features anymore…
Funny how many flir meters are junk now. They don’t last long and have lots of reliability issues. FLIR doesn’t support right to repair either. For a screen that they don’t manufacture, you have to send it to them. Literally plugging in a ribbon cable, 1 second job.
Their meters have serious issues. Don’t waste your money. Gimmicky and high prices. If they were reliable, might be a different story.
Wow I haven’t heard anything bad about FLIR Multimeters. I’ve had a couple and they have been great! They have an excellent warranty. I bought one used from Amazon that went through batteries way too fast - so FLIR replaced it for free and didn’t even ask for the bad one back. The parts inside look like standard parts and the chips are standard part numbers too - so they seem easy to repair if the warranty wasn’t so good. Amazon shows 4.6 stars out of over 2400 ratings - and that is pretty darn good for a multimeter. I also checked other sites that show ratings as well and they are mostly 5 stars. What kind of serious issues are you aware of? Also the features are amazing and not gimmicky at all. Maybe you are used to Fluke that hasn’t come up with a new meter in 20 years and doesn’t have the new features. I’d be very interested in any reliable source where you get this information.
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Sorry
Shameless commercial.
I'm sorry that you didn't like it. My goal was to show a high end multimeter that cost a fraction of a Fluke of comparable features/quality. What could I have done differently?
@@KissAnalog there are too many commercials out there nowadays people even tend to confuse bommercials to commercials. What the heck is a bommercial?
@@KissAnalog is he (Joe nicholas) not implying that you have been given that meter by flir, hence you must say nice things 😄