Don’t know if you caught the callback to the 1st movie when Bourne says “Look at what they make you give” to the assassin on the roof top, which was the same line spoken by Clive Owens’s character before he died in the first film. Great reaction. 👍😎
This is not the last movie and it doesn't end here. Just know that The Bourne Legacy is simultanious with Ultimatum. Yep, they both happen at the exact time. The last one is Jason Bourne.
David Webb was a soldier and patriot and highly trained. He was 100% into what he was doing as Jason Bourne. It was only one moment that changed him. On the boat in the first movie when he cannot kill his target due to the presence of the children. He then lost his memory due to being shot and going into the ocean. Once he comes out of the water he is a new person.
Although a lot will likely disagree, I think #4 The Bourne Legacy is worth your time. Renner and Weisz do a good job with the story. Pitt stayed away because they changed directors but it is still a good movie.
I agree. The #5 is also worth the watch (not quite as good as the others, but still moves the story and characters along, though it does leave us hanging and hoping for a #6)
Nice reaction Madison but you're Not done with Jason yet. You have to see 2016's "Jason Bourne" to get his Full backstory And the "Bourne Legacy" with Jeremy Renner happens around the events of Ultimatum so it's definitely worth a watch.
The UNDER DURESS response is for when someone is forcing you to say what they want. Nicky wasn't saying that everything was normal. She was saying that she was speaking freely and so they could have a frank conversation.
24:41 No, Landy had to tell Bourne the location of the office, but she knew the bad guys would be listening, so she recreated the last conversation she had with Bourne word for word, except she changed the location she gave the first time. That way only Bourne would understand what the real message was.
In the first movie, he's in the water because he was shot in the back as he decided not to kill his target because of children nearby, fell off his targets yacht, lost his memory because of it.
Hi Madison, Joan Allen (Pam) is a supporting actress in another excellent movie called, Pleasantville. It's so thoroughly enjoyable, I love it. She's an amazing actress and is so totally different than who she plays here. -Tom From Australia, hmmmm. Could it be The Man From Snowy River or Quigley Down Under? I bet it's Quigley. You'll like it. Me too.
9:36 "He didn't learn. You don't listen to Bourne, you die." You learned that from two other movies. You have the benefit of being the omniscient audience: you know all the things that reporter could not know. Everybody who learned that lesson (listen to Bourne or die) is dead so they couldn't pass on the lesson they learned because, well, they died learning it.
An Australian themed movie, much like an American western family saga, is "THE SUNDOWNERS" (1960) w/Robert Mitchum & Deborah Kerr. I watch it once a year, it has that large hearted spirit that is missing from contemporary films. You'd love it!
There are a ton of books in this series. I have read the first three, it's quite different. For example, just a small thing, Marie was an educated business lady and Bourne saved her. But the whole specially trained operative angle is the same.
I always love your reactions, so thank you for reacting to the Bourne trilogy. As had been mentioned, the final (???) Bourne movie with Matt Damon will give you the last pieces to the puzzle of why David Webb joined in the first place. BTW, the Bourne Legacy is very much worth your time (as had been mentioned). It is very intense and takes place at the same time that The Bourne Ultimatum took place.
There is another Bourne movie with Matt Damon called Jason Bourne from 2016. There is also a movie The Bourne Legacy from 2012 with Jeremy Renner and Rachel Weisz.
At the end, when the other Treadstone assassin has Jason in his sights and Jason says "Look at us, look at what they make you give," that's a callback to the first movie. It's what Treadstone assassin Clive Owen says to Jason before dying
2:45 "I can't remember how he ended up in the water with amnesia in the first movie." LOL, why not? You watched it just 2 years ago.. :) No, it wasn't because he refused to join. He was fully trained and working for Treadstone, his mission was to assassinate a guy on a yacht, so he snuck onto the yacht, then snuck into the guy's bedroom, but he was there with two small children. Jason couldn't kill the dad and 2 kids, and he couldn't kill the dad in front of the kids, so he backed off and tried to get away. As he was escaping, he got shot in the back a couple times, fell in the ocean, almost died, and then the movie started.
I really enjoyed your reaction to this trilogy, Madison. As someone else recommended in the chat, I suggest that you react to, 'The Day of The Jackal' 1973, I promise you, you won't be disappointed.
Great movie and reaction Madison! I Luv this Bourne Trilogy! Always lots of action and twists in these movies! I was waiting for Jason to start swimming at the end! Whew! Your right about the shaking camera pov. It more distracting then not! Thanks for sharing Madison! Luv ya❤💛
The Bourne Legacy is basically a spin-off, Jeremy Renner plays another asset from one of these programs, but the last one called Jason Bourne gives us more information on Bourne's background.
He drove off the roof backwards and was fully supported by the seat, there was nothing for him to hit his head on. In the other big crash it is less believable but he did wrap himself with the seatbelts which could help prevent your body from becoming a pinball inside the car in a violent crash, his head was against the seat so as long as the force didn't fling him towards the passenger door he was kinda well supported in all other directions. Plus it's an action movie so the unbelievable or unlikely is always possible lol.
Jason volunteered to become an agent out of a sense of duty and patriotism because of his father. However, when he discovered that the agents were going through a mind-control program, making them robots for a black on black kill squad, he resisted the training. It wasn't just training, which would have allowed the agents to think for themselves and make decisions, based on ethical and moral grounds. It was a programming scheme to create agents who would kill anyone anywhere, on demand for any reason, with no agency accountability or congressional knowledge/ approval. This is why Jason was told in the last movie that he was a 6 million dollar, malfunctioning weapon. The training worked with all other agents, but Bourne was an anomaly. His decency overcame the mental brainwashing and he is now out to discover and destroy those who created this program.
Madison, to answer your question about how Bourne ended up in the water at the beginning of "The Bourne Identity." ... Bourne was on assignment on his target's yacht in the Mediterranean. Bourne "failed" his assignment and subsequently was shot by his target's bodyguard(s) and fell into the sea.
I see Bourne as one of these gung-ho soldiers in one of the elite military services who saw an opportunity posted on a bulletin board somewhere seeking the best-of-the-best for a top secret assignment that would save American lives and he contacted them and volunteered. He developed issues when he killed the Neskys(?) and then when he was ready to kill the guy on the boat but his son was in his arms and stared at Jason. He aborted the mission and jumped off the boat, The amnesia came from the physical trauma of two bullet wounds in his back and the cold of the water he was in for too long. Not for some psychological trauma.
29:00 "Bourne should be more damaged after all that." Maybe not. The two biggest impacts were the rear of the car. Physics of those collisions would pushi the back of his body and head into the seat cushions. His face would be fine. That third collision where it spun him around in a circle might have thrown him into the driver's door and window - that would have done real damage. But. Look at 28:38 when he leans over and wraps the PASSENGER seat belt around his arm - this is to prevent him smashing into the driver's door. Smart guy. Smart filmmaking for anticipating where he might get damaged and showing him preventing that damage.
In ALL of the Bourne movies, there ia always a car chase but , unlike Bond, Bourne drives nothing like an expensive or trick, A Mini Cooper, A Taxi, now a cop car! I LOVE the fact that he drives an everyday type of car that he still does amazing things with! A great movie feat!
Glad you followed up with this while things were still fresh in your mind. Films like these and even the John Wick movies where each picks up where the last left off lose something if you wait too long and may not remember where it all was when the previous one ended. Great reaction as usual Madison. Matt Damon trained in a variety of close combat styles for several months and did many of his own stunts. Supposedly there were 6 stunts that the film makers felt were too dangerous and he did have a stunt double. Sounds like the lead in the movie you teased might have a great moustache????? Oh there is a great, great movie I would love to see you react to some time. Amazing story and star studded cast. Steve McQueen, James Garner, Charles Bronson, James Coburn and so many more. The Great Escape. Have a great weekend!
Honestly, the 4th installment is actually pretty good. Bourne Legacy is very different but also good. And there's one season of a Bourne-adjacent show called Treadstone which I enjoyed, too.
It is unfortunate that someone has convinced you that the first three are a "contained trilogy". There are three so they are a trilogy. But the lead character survives, so there is no END. #4, LEGACY, with Jeremy Renner is masterfully meshed with ULTIMATUM as the stories are occurring at the same time. Parts of ULTIMATUM have been spliced into LEGACY to make it REAl, with some added ULTIMATUM scenes used to mesh the stories, having at least one character from ULTIMATUM (Glenn) interacting directly with a LEGACY character (Keach) to tie them together. Legacy is a continuation of the intellignece apparatus's quest for improved agents. Legacy was left tantalizing us for a subsequent chapter, but, Renner's accident last winter may have ended our hopes. Don't miss it.
You can listen to the Bourne theme (not the ending credits song but the beat whenever bourne is in action) anytime and feel like you’re a super badass superspy.
The shaky handheld cam is a trademark of the director, Paul Greengrass. He took over Supremacy and Ultimatum and both were criticized on release for being hard to follow. One excellent use of the style is Bloody Sunday, about the time British Police attacked Irish protestors in 1972.
Great reaction. Agree with you about the shaky cam/fast editing. I love the Bourne Trilogy, but Supremacy (especially) and Ultimatum are very excessive with it. I still rate the first one the best, simply because it doesn't have that excessive editing and shaky cam.
Bourne always insists the women he travels with need to change their appearance, but he never wears a ballcap, sunglasses or a fake beard. lol That's Hollywood for you.
I'd say that in the books he comes off as even more impressive a character. One of my favourite book characters ( I judge it by the anxiety to see what happens to a character in the next book rather than how the story goes).
IMHO, pass on Jason Bourne, but I definitely second the recommendation for Legacy: it's a continuation of the story (without Bourne, but taking a new angle on it), there's very little or no shaky-cam, and a bunch of actors reprise their roles (they don't replace actors playing minor characters willy-nilly, like the trilogy did).
Shaky Cam and quick scene changes are there to give you a sense of confusing and/or urgency or peril, so in this movie, it makes a lot of sense. You are supposed to be/feel uneasy all the time, because Bourne is. About his backstory ... I always imagined that he HAD been a soldier in 1 or more battles and had seen other soldiers ... friends ... being killed needlessly and felt he was being constrained (i.e. not being as effective as he could be) when in that setting and wanted to do more, so he asked to be sent to a "special project" where he could and was then directed to Treadstone. That's very similar to what you had imagined, but a slightly different way/path of getting there.
Good reaction. A few points: the "shaky cam" - is not as bad as you perceive, when you take into account this was filmed for the big screen, i.e. a screen 40 feet across. In that case or even on a 60" HDTV, your eye/brain focus is different than on a teensy computer screen. When you are in a car over a bumpy road, your head bobs around as much as or more than the shaky cam, but your eyes and brain smooth it out. Same occurs with a big screen. But on a small one close up, not so much. Next point, Jason does get injured, but his training is to ignore the pain and push on, in addition to anticipating the physics of fights and crashes and protect himself accordingly. Finally he smashed the cars by going into reverse, because head on may kill the engine and then he'd be screwed - again anticipating the physics of combat ahead of time....
This trilogy was so, so, so good. My father is a huge fan of the James Bond movies and after we finished watching Ultimatum he said that he actually likes Jason Bourne more than Bond! It's a shame that the next 2 movies were garbage compared to the trilogy. And yes, shaky cam needs to die a fast death.
Super Thanks Madison! You really made my day. I loved this franchise, but there is a fourth movie that is not too bad, also a one off with Jeremy Renner that pretty good also. Thanks again! Your take on why is backwards! The best and the brightest want MORE! I served with Rangers ...to a man they were head and shoulders above regular soldiers! The best want to be challenged!
Jason found out in the last movie that he was on the boat to kill Wambasi but his kids were there so he froze, then took off and was shot in the back jumping off Wambasi's boat.
Great reaction to a great series, Lady M. My guess for the next reaction using your clues sounds like "Quigley down under". I would love it if I guessed right because it is such a fun movie.
Interesting take on the reason David Web wanted to become Jason Bourne. I honestly never thought about it, but tying that together with Bourne’s amnesia and change in character was good. I also don’t like the shaky camera except during the fights. Makes it feel more realistic
that concluded the "trilogy" but the next movies are also good plot additions to the whole blackbriar program and you should watch them and decide for yourself.. I was entertained by both and Matt Damon is in the 5th film
Noah vosen: when he's finished with Daniel's send the asset after her. Pamela Landy: You can't do this You can't go down this path. Noah vosen: when he's finished with her send the asset after me. Pamela Landy: 😲
the next 2 Bourne movies, are also worth watching... nr 4 takes place during end of the 2nd movie, and start of 3rd, iirc, and then nr 5, picks up a few years, after nr 3...
Bourne Legacy although not starring Matt Damon is an integral part of the franchise as it explains to the audience what Bourne is and how he became a super assassin.
Most everyone hated the shaky cam and over reliance on action (The NYC car chase was totally unnecessary) including Matt Damon ..Why he wouldn't continue and they came up with the Legacy Film
Two very good, realistic, spy movies are “Three Days of the Condor” (1975, with Robert Redford, Faye Dunaway, and Max von Sydow) and “The Ipcress File” (1965, with Michael Caine). I know you already have your “Australia” movie, which I’m guessing is, or should be, “Breaker Morant” (1980) or “Picnic at Hanging Rock” (1975), but I can’t resist the opportunity to recommend another excellent, little-known Australian movie: “The Earthling,” the great William Holden’s last film.
I have watched the 3 Matt Damon Bourne movies and I have read the 3 books they were based upon. I enjoyed all 6 different stories. I also enjoyed the 4th movie with Jeremy Renner and it has ties to the original 3.
There’s actually another move after this one ,called Jason Bourne it’s quite good , fyi if your going to hit another car that’s chasing you you back into them because if you hit from the front you damage the radiator and the engine will blow up then it is unable to drive.
Bourne didn't join because of PTSD. These kinds of black programs attract highly motivated and skilled individuals that want to serve the country. These are the kind of people who rarely get PTSD. I knew a man who was an E9/Sergeant Major in the US Army. He did something like 4 tours (most people did one) in Vietnam as a door gunner. When I knew him in the 80's he was in the reserves. The man had all but 4 medal the US gives out at that time, was qualified on everything and a member of the Army rifle team. He almost joined Air America (CIA run airlines in Cambodia) back in the Vietnam era. They were going to give him a $35K sign on bonus. Looking back at it he said he must have been Fning crazy to even consider it. 25 years in the military and 4 years in combat, he never developed PTSD.
I was researching who Scott Glenn was after you mentioned him. He was in a few episodes of Monk and I think he was also in the show Daredevil as well. By the way, I just now found out that Daniel Bruhl's last name is pronounced like the word "cruel".
33:00 "Look at us. Look at what they make you give." If it hadn't been so long, you might recognize that Clive Owen's character said that to Jason Bourne right before he died in the first movie. Now Jason's saying it forward. It's the perfect way to bring the trilogy around, back to where it started. Or nearly so. Also, since those were the final words of that assassin, it made the next scene a lot more convincing. You said "No, I don't believe it" without any doubt in your voice. But if you recalled Clive Owen saying that then dying at almost the beginning of the trilogy, and now Jason said it right before dying at the end, that might have put some doubt in your conviction. It sure did mine. I still thought it was probably misdirection, but damn good misdirection, but also, I had enough doubt that I would not have been surprised if they let him die. After all, he killed people as an assassin; no matter how much we love Jason or Matt, this dude is still a bad guy and probably deserves a bad guy's end, and that moment after bringing it around full circle was the perfect time to do it.
No, they didn't just waterboard Bourne to try to make him accept the spy training program. The movie is alluding to the methods of torture known to produce what is known as "alters" or split personalities. When a mind is shattered during severe torture, these new alternative personalities emerge as a self-preservation mechanism. These alters are like a blank piece of paper that can then be programmed with all sorts of skills and information. Like speaking several languages. This is how "sleepers" or sleeper agents are made. Sleepers can lead a seemingly normal life and spring into action when activated. That's the short version of it. It's much more complex than this. Perhaps the contact with water when he fell in the ocean triggered the amnesia, since the water torture was part of his programming and used to shatter his mind. Often, they are programmed to go into amnesia or even self-terminate, if the knowledge they carry is too sensitive. Like the agent who jumped out of the window in the first film.
The camera angle didn't bother me because I was so into the movie that the camera movement didn't bothers me, also you need to see the next one Bourne Legacy that way you know more about Jason Bourne, good job on your input too.
Well, I think I know what Australian Western you could be viewing... and I will be here for it, or any other Australian western. They are all good. One of the minor interesting points about these films is their call backs to the books. They are almost nothing like the books at all, but they insist on including scenes which are a reference to facts in the original novels, without having anything to actually do with the connection. For instance. In the original book, Bourne has a wife and 2 children who have been murdered, and sort of help serve as an incentive for his beginnings. This is reflected in the original movie, when Marie and Jason go to the house of the man with a little boy and girl, and Marie discovers Jason, in the middle of the night, standing watch over the sleeping children, in their bedroom, just staring at them. There are other bits and pieces, thrown in to the movies. A restaurant which plays a key moment in the book, a secret rendezvous, appears in the movie as just a building Bourne walks past. Little things from the books show up, for no reason, here and there throughout. But the overall stories have absolutely nothing to do with each other - except for the name, Jason Bourne. Robert Ludlum wrote many tense thrillers, a personal favorite is The Osterman Weekend, but the Bourne books, to me, all suffered from not enough editing. They are somewhat dry and confusingly convoluted. Plus, Jason Bourne of the novels is not necessarily a good guy at all. They have done an excellent job with these films. Great casting, locations, and stars, throughout. I'll see you next week!
This is my favorite Bourne film. While I enjoy the story of the first the most and the origin (awakening) storyline, I think this one has the best of Jason’s on-the-fly dodging and evading the CIA hunting him scenes.
This director is the king of shaky cam. He came from documentaries, but i think he should have dropped this particular technique. Luckily it didn't take away too much from Supremacy and Ultimatum. The same guy did Captain Phillips.
Nikki is my favorite character right after Pam in the series. Even after Jason. Julia Stiles doesn't look like a cookie cutter Hollywood actress and yet she's a real beauty.
now the 4th movie is a different part of the same intelligence programs.. it takes place at the same time as the ultimatum, the 5th is jason and nikki back, years later
I only recently discovered your reaction videos, and I've enjoyed all of them that I've watched, so far. I'll be watching more! This movie was not the final chapter of a trilogy. Check out "Jason Bourne" (2016) co-starring Alicia Vikander. Julia Stiles returns as Nicky, too. And I think you've mentioned the "Bourne Legacy" starring Jeremy Renner and Scott Glenn in one of your prior reviews, that is a different but related story. There is also a "Bourne Identity" TV mini-series from 1988 starring Richard Chamberlain as Jason Bourne. I enjoyed it, you might, too. The action is less intense, but there's more intrigue. Another Albert Finney movie you might enjoy is "Looker" (1981) featuring James Coburn and Susan Dey. This one's a sci-fi thriller about corporate greed, lost time, identity theft, and murder. It has a cool sound track, and it predicts recent AI imaging and voice advancements. From your description at the end of this review, I might recognize the next Friday movie. If it was released in 1982 and the love interest is played by an actress named Sigrid, this is a fantastic movie. The sequel doesn't live up to it, though.
its been fun watching the bourne trilogy with you. jason bourne 1, 2 and 3 had some of the best story, awesome fight choreography, and great driving action. i liked the 4th bourne movie w/ jeremy. it tied into the original bourne story too. didnt care for the 5th bourne though.
It’s interesting watching a writer develop a backstory for Bourne and how it is influenced by the current time. Originally the Bourne story was from the Cold War, but the movies were post Cold War, Post 911. Interpretation mirrored those time periods. My take was always that after 911 he fell into the same desire to defend his country that so many did in real life. A soldier who wanted to do more. And like those real life patriots he was misused for nefarious ends by the same scumbags that have been pulling the levers of power since… well… forever. That was my interpretation at the time because that’s what was happening. Your interpretation seems to be of our current timeline. Seems to come from the perspective of disillusionment that exists now with what happened in the 20 years of wars that were justified by 911. I’d love to see what the interpretation is 20 years from now as the current world situation devolves again.
The shaky cam.... most people have no idea that when watching a movie their eyes are bolting all over the screen to see what's going. We're never just still watching one spot the whole time. Your eyes are your own little shaky cam and you don't even realize it.
Nikki's little smile at the end, the Moby 'Extreme Ways' theme, and Bourne back in the water. Perfection.
Great ending.
it's a sink or swim situation..the same as life..that's what I took from it..yes great ending 😊
Perfection is the right word for this ending.
Don’t know if you caught the callback to the 1st movie when Bourne says “Look at what they make you give” to the assassin on the roof top, which was the same line spoken by Clive Owens’s character before he died in the first film. Great reaction. 👍😎
TBU is my favorite movie so I’ve seen it dozens of times & I never caught that. Nice
This is not the last movie and it doesn't end here. Just know that The Bourne Legacy is simultanious with Ultimatum. Yep, they both happen at the exact time. The last one is Jason Bourne.
David Webb was a soldier and patriot and highly trained. He was 100% into what he was doing as Jason Bourne. It was only one moment that changed him. On the boat in the first movie when he cannot kill his target due to the presence of the children. He then lost his memory due to being shot and going into the ocean. Once he comes out of the water he is a new person.
I love Nikki's little smile at the end.
I liked her smile in Dexter more.
Although a lot will likely disagree, I think #4 The Bourne Legacy is worth your time. Renner and Weisz do a good job with the story. Pitt stayed away because they changed directors but it is still a good movie.
I agree. The #5 is also worth the watch (not quite as good as the others, but still moves the story and characters along, though it does leave us hanging and hoping for a #6)
Agreed. Parallel story, but definitely within the genre.
I agree especially since the events in that movie were happening around the goings on of Ultimatum.
Nice reaction Madison but you're Not done with Jason yet. You have to see 2016's "Jason Bourne" to get his Full backstory And the "Bourne Legacy" with Jeremy Renner happens around the events of Ultimatum so it's definitely worth a watch.
I like #4 is the best of the 5 movies
The UNDER DURESS response is for when someone is forcing you to say what they want. Nicky wasn't saying that everything was normal. She was saying that she was speaking freely and so they could have a frank conversation.
Thank you for that clarification. I sure didn't know that.
Agreed. I was going to post this if no one else did. You worded it well.
24:41 No, Landy had to tell Bourne the location of the office, but she knew the bad guys would be listening, so she recreated the last conversation she had with Bourne word for word, except she changed the location she gave the first time. That way only Bourne would understand what the real message was.
In the first movie, he's in the water because he was shot in the back as he decided not to kill his target because of children nearby, fell off his targets yacht, lost his memory because of it.
The 5th Bourne movie explains a lot. Bourne returns essentially.
Love this trilogy! Thank you Madison!
CHECK OUT JEREMY RENNER IN "THE BOURNE LEGACY" FROM 2012
HE PLAYS A NEW CHARACTER WHO IS A TRAINED EXPERT LIKE JASON😎😉
Hi Madison,
Joan Allen (Pam) is a supporting actress in another excellent movie called, Pleasantville. It's so thoroughly enjoyable, I love it. She's an amazing actress and is so totally different than who she plays here.
-Tom From Australia, hmmmm. Could it be The Man From Snowy River or Quigley Down Under? I bet it's Quigley. You'll like it. Me too.
Pleasantville is a great movie and so few reactors have done it.
9:36 "He didn't learn. You don't listen to Bourne, you die."
You learned that from two other movies.
You have the benefit of being the omniscient audience: you know all the things that reporter could not know.
Everybody who learned that lesson (listen to Bourne or die) is dead so they couldn't pass on the lesson they learned because, well, they died learning it.
An Australian themed movie, much like an American western family saga, is "THE SUNDOWNERS" (1960) w/Robert Mitchum & Deborah Kerr. I watch it once a year, it has that large hearted spirit that is missing from contemporary films. You'd love it!
There are a ton of books in this series. I have read the first three, it's quite different. For example, just a small thing, Marie was an educated business lady and Bourne saved her. But the whole specially trained operative angle is the same.
I always love your reactions, so thank you for reacting to the Bourne trilogy. As had been mentioned, the final (???) Bourne movie with Matt Damon will give you the last pieces to the puzzle of why David Webb joined in the first place. BTW, the Bourne Legacy is very much worth your time (as had been mentioned). It is very intense and takes place at the same time that The Bourne Ultimatum took place.
Thank you for watching this perfect trilogy! Look forward to whatever's next on this channel... your reactions are superb! 😊
Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying them😊
You should check out The Getaway, directed by Peckinpah, with Steve mcQueen. A huge precursor to the modern action thriller.
There is another Bourne movie with Matt Damon called Jason Bourne from 2016. There is also a movie The Bourne Legacy from 2012 with Jeremy Renner and Rachel Weisz.
At the end, when the other Treadstone assassin has Jason in his sights and Jason says "Look at us, look at what they make you give," that's a callback to the first movie. It's what Treadstone assassin Clive Owen says to Jason before dying
2:45 "I can't remember how he ended up in the water with amnesia in the first movie."
LOL, why not? You watched it just 2 years ago.. :)
No, it wasn't because he refused to join.
He was fully trained and working for Treadstone, his mission was to assassinate a guy on a yacht, so he snuck onto the yacht, then snuck into the guy's bedroom, but he was there with two small children.
Jason couldn't kill the dad and 2 kids, and he couldn't kill the dad in front of the kids, so he backed off and tried to get away.
As he was escaping, he got shot in the back a couple times, fell in the ocean, almost died, and then the movie started.
I really enjoyed your reaction to this trilogy, Madison. As someone else recommended in the chat, I suggest that you react to, 'The Day of The Jackal' 1973, I promise you, you won't be disappointed.
... then follow up with "The Ode⚡⚡a File"... Featuring the greatest Christmas song ever...
Great movie and reaction Madison! I Luv this Bourne Trilogy! Always lots of action and twists in these movies! I was waiting for Jason to start swimming at the end! Whew! Your right about the shaking camera pov. It more distracting then not! Thanks for sharing Madison! Luv ya❤💛
The Bourne Legacy is basically a spin-off, Jeremy Renner plays another asset from one of these programs, but the last one called Jason Bourne gives us more information on Bourne's background.
The last one Jason burne is crap
He drove off the roof backwards and was fully supported by the seat, there was nothing for him to hit his head on. In the other big crash it is less believable but he did wrap himself with the seatbelts which could help prevent your body from becoming a pinball inside the car in a violent crash, his head was against the seat so as long as the force didn't fling him towards the passenger door he was kinda well supported in all other directions. Plus it's an action movie so the unbelievable or unlikely is always possible lol.
Jason volunteered to become an agent out of a sense of duty and patriotism because of his father. However, when he discovered that the agents were going through a mind-control program, making them robots for a black on black kill squad, he resisted the training. It wasn't just training, which would have allowed the agents to think for themselves and make decisions, based on ethical and moral grounds. It was a programming scheme to create agents who would kill anyone anywhere, on demand for any reason, with no agency accountability or congressional knowledge/ approval. This is why Jason was told in the last movie that he was a 6 million dollar, malfunctioning weapon. The training worked with all other agents, but Bourne was an anomaly. His decency overcame the mental brainwashing and he is now out to discover and destroy those who created this program.
Madison, to answer your question about how Bourne ended up in the water at the beginning of "The Bourne Identity." ... Bourne was on assignment on his target's yacht in the Mediterranean. Bourne "failed" his assignment and subsequently was shot by his target's bodyguard(s) and fell into the sea.
I see Bourne as one of these gung-ho soldiers in one of the elite military services who saw an opportunity posted on a bulletin board somewhere seeking the best-of-the-best for a top secret assignment that would save American lives and he contacted them and volunteered. He developed issues when he killed the Neskys(?) and then when he was ready to kill the guy on the boat but his son was in his arms and stared at Jason. He aborted the mission and jumped off the boat, The amnesia came from the physical trauma of two bullet wounds in his back and the cold of the water he was in for too long. Not for some psychological trauma.
"Best of the best of the best"
29:00 "Bourne should be more damaged after all that."
Maybe not.
The two biggest impacts were the rear of the car.
Physics of those collisions would pushi the back of his body and head into the seat cushions.
His face would be fine.
That third collision where it spun him around in a circle might have thrown him into the driver's door and window - that would have done real damage.
But.
Look at 28:38 when he leans over and wraps the PASSENGER seat belt around his arm - this is to prevent him smashing into the driver's door.
Smart guy.
Smart filmmaking for anticipating where he might get damaged and showing him preventing that damage.
Lots of great, classic Australian movies! Three of my favorites Breaker Morant, Gallipoli and Walkabout.
and the greatest of all... Muriel's Wedding and BMX Bandits!!
In ALL of the Bourne movies, there ia always a car chase but , unlike Bond, Bourne drives nothing like an expensive or trick, A Mini Cooper, A Taxi, now a cop car! I LOVE the fact that he drives an everyday type of car that he still does amazing things with! A great movie feat!
webb wasn't suffering from pstd. he was a highly motivated recruit into a ruthless super-soldier program. there's more to his origins in a later film.
Glad you followed up with this while things were still fresh in your mind. Films like these and even the John Wick movies where each picks up where the last left off lose something if you wait too long and may not remember where it all was when the previous one ended. Great reaction as usual Madison. Matt Damon trained in a variety of close combat styles for several months and did many of his own stunts. Supposedly there were 6 stunts that the film makers felt were too dangerous and he did have a stunt double. Sounds like the lead in the movie you teased might have a great moustache????? Oh there is a great, great movie I would love to see you react to some time. Amazing story and star studded cast. Steve McQueen, James Garner, Charles Bronson, James Coburn and so many more. The Great Escape. Have a great weekend!
Girl I’m with you. Great reaction and fun hanging out with you.
Honestly, the 4th installment is actually pretty good. Bourne Legacy is very different but also good. And there's one season of a Bourne-adjacent show called Treadstone which I enjoyed, too.
It is unfortunate that someone has convinced you that the first three are a "contained trilogy". There are three so they are a trilogy. But the lead character survives, so there is no END. #4, LEGACY, with Jeremy Renner is masterfully meshed with ULTIMATUM as the stories are occurring at the same time. Parts of ULTIMATUM have been spliced into LEGACY to make it REAl, with some added ULTIMATUM scenes used to mesh the stories, having at least one character from ULTIMATUM (Glenn) interacting directly with a LEGACY character (Keach) to tie them together. Legacy is a continuation of the intellignece apparatus's quest for improved agents. Legacy was left tantalizing us for a subsequent chapter, but, Renner's accident last winter may have ended our hopes. Don't miss it.
You can listen to the Bourne theme (not the ending credits song but the beat whenever bourne is in action) anytime and feel like you’re a super badass superspy.
You are so adorable.
Thank you for sharing your time with us..
The shaky handheld cam is a trademark of the director, Paul Greengrass. He took over Supremacy and Ultimatum and both were criticized on release for being hard to follow. One excellent use of the style is Bloody Sunday, about the time British Police attacked Irish protestors in 1972.
Movies to consider if you have not already watched. Frequency, Ransom, Inside Man, Backdraft.
Great reaction. Agree with you about the shaky cam/fast editing. I love the Bourne Trilogy, but Supremacy (especially) and Ultimatum are very excessive with it. I still rate the first one the best, simply because it doesn't have that excessive editing and shaky cam.
Bourne always insists the women he travels with need to change their appearance, but he never wears a ballcap, sunglasses or a fake beard. lol That's Hollywood for you.
Have a look at the latest Bourne film in 2016. Matt comes back as well as Nikki! YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO MISS THIS!!!
Still planning on getting your book. Hope it has been a success!
Thanks! It’s been great😊👍🏻
I'd say that in the books he comes off as even more impressive a character. One of my favourite book characters ( I judge it by the anxiety to see what happens to a character in the next book rather than how the story goes).
I enjoyed the input that you give to your movies
Many items from The Bourne Identity are found in this movie including the first mention of "Black Brier" toward the end.
I had the joy of finishing your book the other day. What a great story and fantastic characters. Hope you are working on a new one.
I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Next book is coming out this year😊
Watch the movie Jason Bourne, it's well worth it.
Well worth watching The Bourne Legacy with Jeremy Renner and Rachel Weiss before watching the later Jason Bourne with Matt.
IMHO, pass on Jason Bourne, but I definitely second the recommendation for Legacy: it's a continuation of the story (without Bourne, but taking a new angle on it), there's very little or no shaky-cam, and a bunch of actors reprise their roles (they don't replace actors playing minor characters willy-nilly, like the trilogy did).
Shaky Cam and quick scene changes are there to give you a sense of confusing and/or urgency or peril, so in this movie, it makes a lot of sense. You are supposed to be/feel uneasy all the time, because Bourne is. About his backstory ... I always imagined that he HAD been a soldier in 1 or more battles and had seen other soldiers ... friends ... being killed needlessly and felt he was being constrained (i.e. not being as effective as he could be) when in that setting and wanted to do more, so he asked to be sent to a "special project" where he could and was then directed to Treadstone. That's very similar to what you had imagined, but a slightly different way/path of getting there.
Good reaction. A few points: the "shaky cam" - is not as bad as you perceive, when you take into account this was filmed for the big screen, i.e. a screen 40 feet across. In that case or even on a 60" HDTV, your eye/brain focus is different than on a teensy computer screen. When you are in a car over a bumpy road, your head bobs around as much as or more than the shaky cam, but your eyes and brain smooth it out. Same occurs with a big screen. But on a small one close up, not so much. Next point, Jason does get injured, but his training is to ignore the pain and push on, in addition to anticipating the physics of fights and crashes and protect himself accordingly. Finally he smashed the cars by going into reverse, because head on may kill the engine and then he'd be screwed - again anticipating the physics of combat ahead of time....
You should watch Jason Bourne (2016), the fourth movie starring Matt Damon. That will bring you those answers you're looking for.
This trilogy was so, so, so good. My father is a huge fan of the James Bond movies and after we finished watching Ultimatum he said that he actually likes Jason Bourne more than Bond! It's a shame that the next 2 movies were garbage compared to the trilogy.
And yes, shaky cam needs to die a fast death.
They explain Jason's motivation for joining the program in the fifth movie, Jason Bourne.
These movies were more believable than any Tom Cruise mission impossible or top gun franchise movies and Denzel Washington equalizer movies.
Super Thanks Madison! You really made my day. I loved this franchise, but there is a fourth movie that is not too bad, also a one off with Jeremy Renner that pretty good also. Thanks again! Your take on why is backwards! The best and the brightest want MORE! I served with Rangers ...to a man they were head and shoulders above regular soldiers! The best want to be challenged!
Jason found out in the last movie that he was on the boat to kill Wambasi but his kids were there so he froze, then took off and was shot in the back jumping off Wambasi's boat.
Great reaction to a great series, Lady M. My guess for the next reaction using your clues sounds like "Quigley down under". I would love it if I guessed right because it is such a fun movie.
Interesting take on the reason David Web wanted to become Jason Bourne. I honestly never thought about it, but tying that together with Bourne’s amnesia and change in character was good.
I also don’t like the shaky camera except during the fights. Makes it feel more realistic
that concluded the "trilogy" but the next movies are also good plot additions to the whole blackbriar program and you should watch them and decide for yourself.. I was entertained by both and Matt Damon is in the 5th film
Noah vosen: when he's finished with Daniel's send the asset after her.
Pamela Landy: You can't do this You can't go down this path.
Noah vosen: when he's finished with her send the asset after me.
Pamela Landy: 😲
the next 2 Bourne movies, are also worth watching... nr 4 takes place during end of the 2nd movie, and start of 3rd, iirc, and then nr 5, picks up a few years, after nr 3...
Bourne Legacy although not starring Matt Damon is an integral part of the franchise as it explains to the audience what Bourne is and how he became a super assassin.
The “Shaky Cam” directing was made famous by these movies.
Great reaction, Madison. So, have you been inspired to make your next novel a spy thriller? Perhaps set in the old west lol.
Most everyone hated the shaky cam and over reliance on action (The NYC car chase was totally unnecessary) including Matt Damon ..Why he wouldn't continue and they came up with the Legacy Film
Two very good, realistic, spy movies are “Three Days of the Condor” (1975, with Robert Redford, Faye Dunaway, and Max von Sydow) and “The Ipcress File” (1965, with Michael Caine).
I know you already have your “Australia” movie, which I’m guessing is, or should be, “Breaker Morant” (1980) or “Picnic at Hanging Rock” (1975), but I can’t resist the opportunity to recommend another excellent, little-known Australian movie: “The Earthling,” the great William Holden’s last film.
Madison has reacted to 3 Days of the Condor. One of her great 70s, Redford reactions.
I have watched the 3 Matt Damon Bourne movies and I have read the 3 books they were based upon. I enjoyed all 6 different stories. I also enjoyed the 4th movie with Jeremy Renner and it has ties to the original 3.
Both the fourth and fifth movie gives more answers. The fourth is pretty decent, the fifth is the worst of the five.
I'd say watch them both.
There’s actually another move after this one ,called Jason Bourne it’s quite good , fyi if your going to hit another car that’s chasing you you back into them because if you hit from the front you damage the radiator and the engine will blow up then it is unable to drive.
Bourne didn't join because of PTSD.
These kinds of black programs attract highly motivated and skilled individuals that want to serve the country. These are the kind of people who rarely get PTSD.
I knew a man who was an E9/Sergeant Major in the US Army.
He did something like 4 tours (most people did one) in Vietnam as a door gunner.
When I knew him in the 80's he was in the reserves. The man had all but 4 medal the US gives out at that time, was qualified on everything and a member of the Army rifle team.
He almost joined Air America (CIA run airlines in Cambodia) back in the Vietnam era. They were going to give him a $35K sign on bonus.
Looking back at it he said he must have been Fning crazy to even consider it.
25 years in the military and 4 years in combat, he never developed PTSD.
I was researching who Scott Glenn was after you mentioned him. He was in a few episodes of Monk and I think he was also in the show Daredevil as well. By the way, I just now found out that Daniel Bruhl's last name is pronounced like the word "cruel".
He was the costar of Silverado, with Kevin Kline, Kevin Costner and Danny Glover. He was also in urban Cowboy with Travolta. Silence of the Lambs.
33:00 "Look at us. Look at what they make you give."
If it hadn't been so long, you might recognize that Clive Owen's character said that to Jason Bourne right before he died in the first movie.
Now Jason's saying it forward.
It's the perfect way to bring the trilogy around, back to where it started. Or nearly so.
Also, since those were the final words of that assassin, it made the next scene a lot more convincing.
You said "No, I don't believe it" without any doubt in your voice.
But if you recalled Clive Owen saying that then dying at almost the beginning of the trilogy, and now Jason said it right before dying at the end, that might have put some doubt in your conviction.
It sure did mine.
I still thought it was probably misdirection, but damn good misdirection, but also, I had enough doubt that I would not have been surprised if they let him die.
After all, he killed people as an assassin; no matter how much we love Jason or Matt, this dude is still a bad guy and probably deserves a bad guy's end, and that moment after bringing it around full circle was the perfect time to do it.
No, they didn't just waterboard Bourne to try to make him accept the spy training program. The movie is alluding to the methods of torture known to produce what is known as "alters" or split personalities. When a mind is shattered during severe torture, these new alternative personalities emerge as a self-preservation mechanism. These alters are like a blank piece of paper that can then be programmed with all sorts of skills and information. Like speaking several languages. This is how "sleepers" or sleeper agents are made. Sleepers can lead a seemingly normal life and spring into action when activated.
That's the short version of it. It's much more complex than this.
Perhaps the contact with water when he fell in the ocean triggered the amnesia, since the water torture was part of his programming and used to shatter his mind. Often, they are programmed to go into amnesia or even self-terminate, if the knowledge they carry is too sensitive. Like the agent who jumped out of the window in the first film.
The camera angle didn't bother me because I was so into the movie that the camera movement didn't bothers me, also you need to see the next one Bourne Legacy that way you know more about Jason Bourne, good job on your input too.
Great reaction. Number 4 is ok…not as good as this trilogy but fun. I may be biased since if I recall right, part was filmed in Manila, Philippines.
Good Scott Glenn movies:
"Absolute Power" (1997)
"Backdraft" (1991)
"The Right Stuff" (1983)
Jason Bourne is the fourth in this run and continues his story.
Well, I think I know what Australian Western you could be viewing... and I will be here for it, or any other Australian western. They are all good.
One of the minor interesting points about these films is their call backs to the books. They are almost nothing like the books at all, but they insist on including scenes which are a reference to facts in the original novels, without having anything to actually do with the connection.
For instance. In the original book, Bourne has a wife and 2 children who have been murdered, and sort of help serve as an incentive for his beginnings. This is reflected in the original movie, when Marie and Jason go to the house of the man with a little boy and girl, and Marie discovers Jason, in the middle of the night, standing watch over the sleeping children, in their bedroom, just staring at them. There are other bits and pieces, thrown in to the movies. A restaurant which plays a key moment in the book, a secret rendezvous, appears in the movie as just a building Bourne walks past. Little things from the books show up, for no reason, here and there throughout. But the overall stories have absolutely nothing to do with each other - except for the name, Jason Bourne.
Robert Ludlum wrote many tense thrillers, a personal favorite is The Osterman Weekend, but the Bourne books, to me, all suffered from not enough editing. They are somewhat dry and confusingly convoluted. Plus, Jason Bourne of the novels is not necessarily a good guy at all.
They have done an excellent job with these films. Great casting, locations, and stars, throughout.
I'll see you next week!
Good one, Madison. 🙂
There's one more movie - 'Jason Bourne' - it ties up all the loose ends and is well worth the watch.
This is my favorite Bourne film. While I enjoy the story of the first the most and the origin (awakening) storyline, I think this one has the best of Jason’s on-the-fly dodging and evading the CIA hunting him scenes.
This director is the king of shaky cam. He came from documentaries, but i think he should have dropped this particular technique. Luckily it didn't take away too much from Supremacy and Ultimatum. The same guy did Captain Phillips.
The Legacy is just as good and you really should watch it. they are all intertwinded.
Great reaction to an awesome movie
Scott Glenn a villain in this movie is a good guy in Silence of the Lambs.
Not to compare it to the first three films. But the Bourne legacy was a pretty fun movie
Sounds like next week's film is "The Man from Snowy River"!
Nikki is my favorite character right after Pam in the series. Even after Jason. Julia Stiles doesn't look like a cookie cutter Hollywood actress and yet she's a real beauty.
now the 4th movie is a different part of the same intelligence programs.. it takes place at the same time as the ultimatum, the 5th is jason and nikki back, years later
My guess is The Proposition for next week. Great pick
I only recently discovered your reaction videos, and I've enjoyed all of them that I've watched, so far. I'll be watching more!
This movie was not the final chapter of a trilogy. Check out "Jason Bourne" (2016) co-starring Alicia Vikander. Julia Stiles returns as Nicky, too. And I think you've mentioned the "Bourne Legacy" starring Jeremy Renner and Scott Glenn in one of your prior reviews, that is a different but related story.
There is also a "Bourne Identity" TV mini-series from 1988 starring Richard Chamberlain as Jason Bourne. I enjoyed it, you might, too. The action is less intense, but there's more intrigue.
Another Albert Finney movie you might enjoy is "Looker" (1981) featuring James Coburn and Susan Dey. This one's a sci-fi thriller about corporate greed, lost time, identity theft, and murder. It has a cool sound track, and it predicts recent AI imaging and voice advancements.
From your description at the end of this review, I might recognize the next Friday movie. If it was released in 1982 and the love interest is played by an actress named Sigrid, this is a fantastic movie. The sequel doesn't live up to it, though.
its been fun watching the bourne trilogy with you. jason bourne 1, 2 and 3 had some of the best story, awesome fight choreography, and great driving action. i liked the 4th bourne movie w/ jeremy. it tied into the original bourne story too. didnt care for the 5th bourne though.
More Twists in Jason Bourne
It’s interesting watching a writer develop a backstory for Bourne and how it is influenced by the current time.
Originally the Bourne story was from the Cold War, but the movies were post Cold War, Post 911. Interpretation mirrored those time periods.
My take was always that after 911 he fell into the same desire to defend his country that so many did in real life. A soldier who wanted to do more. And like those real life patriots he was misused for nefarious ends by the same scumbags that have been pulling the levers of power since… well… forever. That was my interpretation at the time because that’s what was happening.
Your interpretation seems to be of our current timeline. Seems to come from the perspective of disillusionment that exists now with what happened in the 20 years of wars that were justified by 911.
I’d love to see what the interpretation is 20 years from now as the current world situation devolves again.
The shaky cam.... most people have no idea that when watching a movie their eyes are bolting all over the screen to see what's going. We're never just still watching one spot the whole time. Your eyes are your own little shaky cam and you don't even realize it.
TS & AR, very good choice.
Everyone thinks that Nikki and Jason had a fling. The writers made it appear that way, but they never acted on it.