If Brinker is already the GM in anything but title why not make him the official GM and go look for a Head of scouting or assistant GM since it sounds like that's what they are looking for.
Amy has put on a masterclass of dysfunction these past few years it’s honestly kind of impressive. Taking a team that was a Super Bowl contender a few short years ago to the #1 pick, what’s supposed to be a teams rock bottom but she’s still showing signs of digging
It’s bad boys, but we’ll come full circle. There will be a day we look back at these times and it will make all the Super Bowl wins even sweeter. We’ll get there, we’re all in this together. ⚔️🔥
If Chad Brinker is the one who was allegedly pulling all the strings, then how is he not held more accountable for this roster? So they just propped up Carthon when he was just a puppet to scapegoat. I guess Callahan is gonna be the next scapegoat
Man, I dunno how I feel any more. Tough stuff. The confusion over the Brinker role is horrific, seems like we are making the same mistakes again! Cheers for the reactions boys, my favourite pods/vids you do!
Well put disfuntional spiral of doom. Was expecting to have relief when this season ended. In the end it's more nerve racking than this season has been. Yet it hasn't been a week yet. So we're gonna be a mental wreck for the full 365 now!
Great podcast guys, i didnt hear anywhere what Brinker statement was about the GM position, it really clarifies a lot of things i was wandering a about.
For some of the flaws Bud Adams had as an owner during his tenure interfering at times when it was not necessary in football operations, he wasn't afraid to say when a draft pick was what he instructed to his staff...he did it with Warren Moon, Steve McNair and Vince Young and did not care about the backlash from his staff or fans whether it turned out good or bad...I wish Amy had a 1/4 of that same energy and not just hide a chat GPT press release...
We are close... I know it doesn't look like it RN... But we have some Bright spots. We have a new stadium on the way... We have Ridley and Pollard.. who both played well. We have young talent with Skaronski Sweat Brownlee jr Latham Spears We had a good defense... Just need a QB... Less turnovers... More points scored...we have talent .. we just need a QB. And I'm not sure Callihan/ Brinker want to risk their jobs on a rookie QB ? Again? I think they want a vet? Think Derrick Carr.. Kurt cousins... Justin Fields Aaron Rodgers... Derrick Carr would be alright actually, I wouldn't mind that. But that's the only one! Other than that I want Ward .. But will they take him?
What I think everything is missing is that Brinker has positioned himself on the side of the Adams family. They have invested millions of dollars into his vision already with analytics, and all his other projects. He is their mouthpiece and will be here long after everyone else is gone.
2022: fire GM 2023: fire HC 2024: fire GM What GM is gonna want to be involved in this? I'd be shocked if the new GM isn't someone who is a good friend of Brinker's
Im out on Amy… she has poor vision and is inept at managing this organization. This is fucking pitiful ! You got the number one draft pick to rally around. Why not keep the organization together for one more year and see what happens? See if they start to turn it around… What I think would be great is if the whole staff and the whole team got together and went to the owners and told them to force Amy out or we don’t have a Titans season next year… it would be great if the staff and the team walked out on the whole thing cause really, why would you want to play for this shit? Get a new ownership group, new team name, logo, and mascot, and move into the future with new energy !!!!!
Was to upset with the last draft class, and hopefully with “collaboration” through the off season both ran and brain would have gotten better. Now time to endure three hours of pain every Sunday September-January.
Drafting Will Levi’s Could have been main reason why she felt a certain way! You never know after her seeing Will Levi’s could have made her furious with RAN for drafting that Piece Of Sht! At this Point IT IS WHAT IT IS! 🙄🙄🙄
@ but who put that in her mind about Levi’s??? Who influenced her to pursue Levi’s??? It’s not just her. Carthon has to get some blame in all of this mess including the whole staff as well. I’m not cool with decisions. I’m just trying give you the perspective on her making that a decision which was I believe she tried her best to not make that decision. At this point I’m all in for a completely new clean plate! ⚔️⚔️⚔️
I've heard callers on Nashville radio call in to question the team's ownership, and they are almost always talked down to as if to say "how dare you question Ms. Amy!" This team's leadership is erratic and clueless as to how to build a team and the only people locally to ask difficult questions of the team's leadership are a few reporters like PK. I'm sick of the dysfunction. Happy to hear you guys have this honest discussion about the franchise. I'm convinced that the true problem in the organization is that AAS is impatient and emotional in her decisions when things aren't going well and I have no idea what anyone around her (like Burke Nihill) at the highest levels of the organization has done to prove they are worthy of the jobs they hold. During the interview process for BC last year, I recall AAS, Nihill, Carthon, and maybe another name or two as being the ones in those interviews. Carthon isn't there now obviously, but as they interview for the new pseudo-GM, I have NO faith anyone in that room will make a smart decision. Keep talking about AAS and the team's leadership. It's something that has to be called out. Love the pod guys, and always Titan Up! If you have time, Heed that Call as well! www.youtube.com/@HeedTheCallpod
This half measure is like trying to do a competitive rebuild.. should of fired Callahan.. or go all in clean house and fire Ran, Callahan and Brinker and reset the front office completely. Instead it feels they are scapegoating Ran who actually made decent decisions as GM (Resign Jeff Simmons, Drafted Latham, Sweat, Brownlee Jr, Skoronski and Spears) but had a bad team record, a poorly developed QB in Levis, a bad offense (Callahan and Holz) and special teams (Anderson). This smells of a power grab by Chad Brinker and Owner Amy Adams Strunk making an emotional knee jerk reaction. She's worried about demonstrating accountability for poor results.. and yet Callahan at 3-14 with no improvement down the stretch stays? She should fire herself while she's at it and sell the team to someone who can run a functional organisation.
Who's gonna want to leave their organization and come to the Titans to be GM when, in reality, they'll just be an assistant? The biggest problem is AAS, and until she sells the team, nothing that gets done is gonna matter What are your bets for the head coach next year when Callahan gets fired, and for 2026 when Brinkler and the new GM get the boot?
I dont want to think this, but this seems what happens when the owner of a team (or Ceo of a business) is just due to inheritance, rather than working up to it through success. She doesn't seem to know what she's doing, sadly.
Yes Gravedigger! The whole collection of talent comment in the article spoke volumes! Not bringing back leaders in Azeez and Autry, also grabbing Ridley to me hurt us originally with DHop and this showed Also this draft will be off of Cally and Brinker draft board this new *GM* will only have say if it blows them away
You can question some of the moves by Ran Carthon (Draft and free agency) and the overall record in 2 seasons to justify firing him...sure whatever even if we see GM on other teams being mediocre to bad for a much longer time. But when to try to assassinate his character after being fired is just a low blow...seen it in the corporate world many times and I just smell a full load of baloney by that article. Shows you also how shallow you are as an organization... But even worse, how do you go out of your way to describe him as such barely a year after you promoted him to a VP position? Didn't you ask those questions when he was part of the 49ers org for MANY YEARS? If he showed some of those traits back then, I can guarantee you the the 49ers would have fired him so fast and would never find a job anywhere in the NFL...Sleeping on a plane after game is laziness??? You bet a lot of players did or coaches after the tank job was this season... I hope the stars he brought in free agency, for which past regimes had a hard time brining stars in their prime to Tennessee or current players here ask to be traded to send a message to Amy and Chad...Would not be surprised if Ran and Vrabel end up collaborating in New England just out of spite and show what it really the issue with this poverty franchise... Good luck Amy and Chad, dark days are ahead unless you win the lottery in this draft and win right away...
A lot of things could have happened behind closed doors that hasn’t been made public. Let’s allow the process to play out and let Brinker reset the organization. Brinker will assume the same role as Matt Murphy with the Packers. Murphy isn’t the GM in Green Bay, though a lot of people think that he is because he calls all of the shots.
From all the reporting I’ve read, my conclusion is that Brinker is essentially the real GM and Brinker, himself, likes Callahan and the two of them feel closely aligned. It feels like Carthon was a middle man that they needed to remove. I think this is what the organization is doing to align the front office and the coaching staff. Whoever gets brought in will be a Brinker guy and (hopefully) this team will in lockstep from that point forward. You both should try on these rose colored glasses. They make the Titans experience palatable.
Kinda strange that Carthon was a "middle man" when he hired Brinker to begin with! And we were spoonfed how well Carthon & Callahan got along during the HC interview. The rose colored glasses help 😂
Monti Ossenfort was the GM with Arizona when Levis was drafted - so how could Monti have wanted Will Levis for the Titans or have been on the phone when he was stealing a future 3rd from the titans to move back - unless i misunderstood what you guys meant? Monti was hired On January 16, 2023 and the draft is in April?
This is such a clown show. From the outstide, it doesn't seem like Ran had enough time or made the wrong roster moves. Obviously there are things that happen behind closed doors that we never see. But as you all said this process is awful and it really makes me question ownership and Amy. I would like to see someone with clear leadership and a vision. Ugh.
What a letdown. This team is a joke right now. Not very appealing to the supposed to be number one pick. I don’t think any of those young guys want anything to do with TN and literally no one to blame but the organization staff.
Amy should just go ahead and name Brinker the GM and find a new President of Football...BUT, leave him out of the personnel decision making process. That should be between the GM and the HC alone. They made a big mistake in firing a playoff caliber HC in Vrabel, and it seems this firing is an admission of that mistake. I thought Carthon was doing a pretty good job, overall...but had missed big time on Levis and the Right side of the OL. He should have spent some $$ on a competent RT going into the season, because what they had was not going to cut it. Most fans knew this last year.
We have to redefine our definition of a "GM" because it doesn't mean the same thing here. Firing Carthon is certainly an admission of mistake firing Vrabel.
I'm like the only person thats into this. The roster is horrible and his free agency last year just felt so lacking in direction. I'm encouraged by Brinker purely because he has a vision, and by Callahan, who I do believe might be able to grow into the role. I really don't get how firing one person is dysfunctional but instead firing multiple people is somehow good process. You should at this point have a better idea if Callahan and Brinker can work together and what they need to support them, than some random new guy would about a guy he spends 3 hours with in an interview before hiring him. Will it work? Probably not, most hirings don't regardless of when the people were hired. But if they find better QB play than last year no one will care and they'll have time to give it a shot.
the most polite thing I have to say is that we have become the NY Jets, Cleveland Brown or Chicago Bears of the NFL...I have seen my share of low moments in Oilers/Titans History but this is definitely a top 5 or top 10 at the very least...Amy's dad must be rolling in his grave... Fire Ran? ok whatever but bring another GM with one hand behind his back making decision to a coaching staff he did not select??? Chad Brinker and Amy, time will tell if you know what you're doing.... I will re-evaluate the process in free agency and the next draft and curious about what are the next step of this rebuild...
I never wanted this to happen, but what softens the blow for me is that it now seems Ran’s “promotion” last year was really a demotion in disguise, as some reports point to him wanting to be out of the building for a few months now. It seems Brinker usurped his position and I can’t hate the idea of an understudy being so good he kicks the original guy out. Maybe he has the chops or was the secret weapon for the draft. He was at the Senior Bowl, Carthon and Cally weren’t, and Brownlee was at the Senior Bowl… I’m sick of the dysfunction man. Just make it work
I understands it a promotion. But why would anyon leave their current job to go to Tennessee where you can be fired in a year or two. Just don't see any candidates risking that. Just like Adam Peter's last year
Seems to me Briker is the GM. Ran Carthon was fired because he didn't really do anything anymore when they realized he was in over his head! Maybe Brinker was a big fan of Callaghan and has no plan of replacing him. Leaving Brinker to make final decisions gives them just as much, if not more continuity than with Ran. I just think it may have become a "what would you say ya do here" situation. Why are we paying you?
PKs article explains very well why Ran got fired imo. He is not a film grinder the way the organisation needs him to be. He got hired as a relationship guru to work with Vrabel. Vrabel didn’t want him so now Amy realised it’s pointless to keep him, I don’t hate the decision.
I am a bit confused, was Ran in charge or Chad this season, if so then Chad is responsible for the shit show this year. Maybe all this second guessing is getting us nowhere. I think the real problem is Amy. It defo bad process. Also Vrable wasn’t doing it for two season in a row. His stubbornness with poor coaches (Todd Downing), interfering with good coaches (Dean Pees)was his downfall.
even we got a reaction from Deion Sanders on Twitter...I'm not the biggest fan of Shedeur as a #1 pick but for sure that is an option we can kiss goodbye....even Travis Hunter could say heck no to the Titans for all we know... Unless Chad Brinker and Amy are able to work miracles and offer Deion a deal he can't refuse... LOL
@ i can’t ..what I’ve learned about the Titans organization 1. They are going to stab each other in the back from the days of malarkey til now.. 2. When the person is fired here comes the smear campaign 3. They don’t clear house so whoever is left over is in survival mode 4. cycle continues…. Sorry love the team(players) but I can’t do the organization
Well all that matters are results and after being the worst team in the NFL someone's head had to roll. IMO I'd have fired Cally and his staff and started from scratch. Let the new regime decide if they want a Qb in this draft. The issue here is if Cally is a dud coach it won't matter who the GM is. Now from Amy's perspective she is spending millions for a shite show. Cally not only stinks as a coach but his choice of STs coach and OC appears to be horrific. They totally mismanaged Levis who regressed. I'm fine with the firing just wish they had cleaned house and let someoen competent work with Brinker. Look, it is really easy for someone like Brinker point out all the failures from his position despite the fact he ws probably part of it. Beg Vrabel to come back.
Amy is a terrible owner!! She has no direction. Back in the good years I used to think she was a good owner because she just sat back and let John Robinson and Vrabel work. I wish she could just crawl back to Vrabel and ask him to come back and be lord dictator over the team
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If Brinker is already the GM in anything but title why not make him the official GM and go look for a Head of scouting or assistant GM since it sounds like that's what they are looking for.
A great question with no real answer.
Amy has put on a masterclass of dysfunction these past few years it’s honestly kind of impressive. Taking a team that was a Super Bowl contender a few short years ago to the #1 pick, what’s supposed to be a teams rock bottom but she’s still showing signs of digging
You're right about that! The fall from grace has been epic. Dysfunctional!
It’s bad boys, but we’ll come full circle. There will be a day we look back at these times and it will make all the Super Bowl wins even sweeter. We’ll get there, we’re all in this together. ⚔️🔥
That's the spirit!! Titan Up!!!
Dumpster fire of an organisation!
Dysfunction!
If Chad Brinker is the one who was allegedly pulling all the strings, then how is he not held more accountable for this roster? So they just propped up Carthon when he was just a puppet to scapegoat. I guess Callahan is gonna be the next scapegoat
That's exactly how we feel!
1st it was collab now its clarity 😂 Which one is it Amy wtf are you doing women
This franchise needs to stick to a vision & plan!
Man, I dunno how I feel any more. Tough stuff. The confusion over the Brinker role is horrific, seems like we are making the same mistakes again!
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Certainly have concerns over the new power structure!
Well put disfuntional spiral of doom. Was expecting to have relief when this season ended. In the end it's more nerve racking than this season has been. Yet it hasn't been a week yet. So we're gonna be a mental wreck for the full 365 now!
Definition of dysfunction!
Great podcast guys, i didnt hear anywhere what Brinker statement was about the GM position, it really clarifies a lot of things i was wandering a about.
We're so glad you enjoyed! Happy to clarify for you.
For some of the flaws Bud Adams had as an owner during his tenure interfering at times when it was not necessary in football operations, he wasn't afraid to say when a draft pick was what he instructed to his staff...he did it with Warren Moon, Steve McNair and Vince Young and did not care about the backlash from his staff or fans whether it turned out good or bad...I wish Amy had a 1/4 of that same energy and not just hide a chat GPT press release...
At times though, Bud Adams meddled too much, and it appears Amy has similar traits..
Guess I’m never gonna see this team win a super bowl in my lifetime 💀
Not looking good, fam 😭
We are close...
I know it doesn't look like it RN...
But we have some Bright spots.
We have a new stadium on the way...
We have Ridley and Pollard.. who both played well.
We have young talent with
Skaronski
Sweat
Brownlee jr
Latham
Spears
We had a good defense...
Just need a QB...
Less turnovers...
More points scored...we have talent .. we just need a QB.
And I'm not sure Callihan/ Brinker want to risk their jobs on a rookie QB ? Again?
I think they want a vet?
Think Derrick Carr..
Kurt cousins...
Justin Fields
Aaron Rodgers...
Derrick Carr would be alright actually, I wouldn't mind that. But that's the only one! Other than that I want Ward ..
But will they take him?
@jackripper5270 no you see me your year is head coach fired then I'm then coach and so on tell me I'm wrong.
Because Ran was fired??
What I think everything is missing is that Brinker has positioned himself on the side of the Adams family. They have invested millions of dollars into his vision already with analytics, and all his other projects. He is their mouthpiece and will be here long after everyone else is gone.
He certainly seems to be on their good side right now, but as we've learned, that can change.
From HQ's comments, they basically say Ran was lazy or had fallen into lazy habits - which is unecessary. Maybe the big chair a bit to early.
Seems like they're on a smear campaign!
This team is the new Panthers.
Dysfunction!
How do I apply? Work a year or 2 and set back for 3 and get paid! I can take the blame.
A great gig 😂😂
2022: fire GM
2023: fire HC
2024: fire GM
What GM is gonna want to be involved in this? I'd be shocked if the new GM isn't someone who is a good friend of Brinker's
What a mess!
2025: fire head coach
Next 20 years: suck ass as a franchise
Im out on Amy… she has poor vision and is inept at managing this organization.
This is fucking pitiful !
You got the number one draft pick to rally around. Why not keep the organization together for one more year and see what happens? See if they start to turn it around…
What I think would be great is if the whole staff and the whole team got together and went to the owners and told them to force Amy out or we don’t have a Titans season next year… it would be great if the staff and the team walked out on the whole thing cause really, why would you want to play for this shit?
Get a new ownership group, new team name, logo, and mascot, and move into the future with new energy !!!!!
Was to upset with the last draft class, and hopefully with “collaboration” through the off season both ran and brain would have gotten better. Now time to endure three hours of pain every Sunday September-January.
Really tough to figure out what the plan is!
Drafting Will Levi’s Could have been main reason why she felt a certain way! You never know after her seeing Will Levi’s could have made her furious with RAN for drafting that Piece Of Sht! At this Point IT IS WHAT IT IS! 🙄🙄🙄
She was fully on board with Will Levis! In fact, she may have even driven that decision..
@ but who put that in her mind about Levi’s??? Who influenced her to pursue Levi’s??? It’s not just her. Carthon has to get some blame in all of this mess including the whole staff as well. I’m not cool with decisions. I’m just trying give you the perspective on her making that a decision which was I believe she tried her best to not make that decision. At this point I’m all in for a completely new clean plate! ⚔️⚔️⚔️
I've heard callers on Nashville radio call in to question the team's ownership, and they are almost always talked down to as if to say "how dare you question Ms. Amy!" This team's leadership is erratic and clueless as to how to build a team and the only people locally to ask difficult questions of the team's leadership are a few reporters like PK. I'm sick of the dysfunction. Happy to hear you guys have this honest discussion about the franchise. I'm convinced that the true problem in the organization is that AAS is impatient and emotional in her decisions when things aren't going well and I have no idea what anyone around her (like Burke Nihill) at the highest levels of the organization has done to prove they are worthy of the jobs they hold. During the interview process for BC last year, I recall AAS, Nihill, Carthon, and maybe another name or two as being the ones in those interviews. Carthon isn't there now obviously, but as they interview for the new pseudo-GM, I have NO faith anyone in that room will make a smart decision.
Keep talking about AAS and the team's leadership. It's something that has to be called out. Love the pod guys, and always Titan Up! If you have time, Heed that Call as well!
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Leadership has definitely felt erratic in recent years after so many good initial years when Amy took over.
Now it feels directionless and clueless.
What is the mean ass intro on this? That joint is 🔥🔥🔥
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Job description sounds like Gravedigger!
Gravedigger would totally be capable of answering to Chad Brinker on all roster matters!
They are looking to hire a coffee runner for Brinker
Essentially!
Bro we are so fucked. :(
😬😬😬
This half measure is like trying to do a competitive rebuild.. should of fired Callahan.. or go all in clean house and fire Ran, Callahan and Brinker and reset the front office completely.
Instead it feels they are scapegoating Ran who actually made decent decisions as GM (Resign Jeff Simmons, Drafted Latham, Sweat, Brownlee Jr, Skoronski and Spears) but had a bad team record, a poorly developed QB in Levis, a bad offense (Callahan and Holz) and special teams (Anderson).
This smells of a power grab by Chad Brinker and Owner Amy Adams Strunk making an emotional knee jerk reaction. She's worried about demonstrating accountability for poor results.. and yet Callahan at 3-14 with no improvement down the stretch stays? She should fire herself while she's at it and sell the team to someone who can run a functional organisation.
We would have preferred they clean house!
Certainly feels like Chad Brinker had her ear...
Who's gonna want to leave their organization and come to the Titans to be GM when, in reality, they'll just be an assistant?
The biggest problem is AAS, and until she sells the team, nothing that gets done is gonna matter
What are your bets for the head coach next year when Callahan gets fired, and for 2026 when Brinkler and the new GM get the boot?
Someone desperate for a "GM" job, we guess. Sigh!
I dont want to think this, but this seems what happens when the owner of a team (or Ceo of a business) is just due to inheritance, rather than working up to it through success. She doesn't seem to know what she's doing, sadly.
A directionless franchise.
Yikes...I really hope they have someone in mind or get lucky with their new hire
Have to walk ass backwards into good hires!
Yes Gravedigger! The whole collection of talent comment in the article spoke volumes!
Not bringing back leaders in Azeez and Autry, also grabbing Ridley to me hurt us originally with DHop and this showed
Also this draft will be off of Cally and Brinker draft board this new *GM* will only have say if it blows them away
Carthon is no loss!
It has to be said... Vrabel was right about this shit org from top to bottom and it pissed off Amy to hear it
Melo is with you 🤷♂️
You can question some of the moves by Ran Carthon (Draft and free agency) and the overall record in 2 seasons to justify firing him...sure whatever even if we see GM on other teams being mediocre to bad for a much longer time. But when to try to assassinate his character after being fired is just a low blow...seen it in the corporate world many times and I just smell a full load of baloney by that article. Shows you also how shallow you are as an organization...
But even worse, how do you go out of your way to describe him as such barely a year after you promoted him to a VP position? Didn't you ask those questions when he was part of the 49ers org for MANY YEARS? If he showed some of those traits back then, I can guarantee you the the 49ers would have fired him so fast and would never find a job anywhere in the NFL...Sleeping on a plane after game is laziness??? You bet a lot of players did or coaches after the tank job was this season...
I hope the stars he brought in free agency, for which past regimes had a hard time brining stars in their prime to Tennessee or current players here ask to be traded to send a message to Amy and Chad...Would not be surprised if Ran and Vrabel end up collaborating in New England just out of spite and show what it really the issue with this poverty franchise...
Good luck Amy and Chad, dark days are ahead unless you win the lottery in this draft and win right away...
Definitely feels like they're on a smear campaign. No way Vrabel wants Carthon anywhere near him again though.
Hard for us to know the inner workings of the organization. Personally, I thought Carthon was doing pretty good.
Carthon was doing alright from a player acquisition standpoint, but it seems like a lot went on behind the scenes!
If anyone was going get fired, it should have been the coach. A lot of people agreed that the roster could win more games
The roster was better than their 3-14 record!
A lot of things could have happened behind closed doors that hasn’t been made public. Let’s allow the process to play out and let Brinker reset the organization. Brinker will assume the same role as Matt Murphy with the Packers. Murphy isn’t the GM in Green Bay, though a lot of people think that he is because he calls all of the shots.
We're not opposed to Ran Carthon's firing, so it doesn't necessarily matter what happened behind closed doors...
It's the half measures...
From all the reporting I’ve read, my conclusion is that Brinker is essentially the real GM and Brinker, himself, likes Callahan and the two of them feel closely aligned. It feels like Carthon was a middle man that they needed to remove. I think this is what the organization is doing to align the front office and the coaching staff. Whoever gets brought in will be a Brinker guy and (hopefully) this team will in lockstep from that point forward. You both should try on these rose colored glasses. They make the Titans experience palatable.
Kinda strange that Carthon was a "middle man" when he hired Brinker to begin with! And we were spoonfed how well Carthon & Callahan got along during the HC interview.
The rose colored glasses help 😂
Monti Ossenfort was the GM with Arizona when Levis was drafted - so how could Monti have wanted Will Levis for the Titans or have been on the phone when he was stealing a future 3rd from the titans to move back - unless i misunderstood what you guys meant?
Monti was hired On January 16, 2023 and the draft is in April?
Sorry, perhaps it was just Vrabel on the phone!
This is such a clown show. From the outstide, it doesn't seem like Ran had enough time or made the wrong roster moves. Obviously there are things that happen behind closed doors that we never see. But as you all said this process is awful and it really makes me question ownership and Amy. I would like to see someone with clear leadership and a vision. Ugh.
We have to be questioning ownership right now! And she continues to duck, allowing Burke Nihil and Chad Brinker to speak for her.
What a letdown. This team is a joke right now. Not very appealing to the supposed to be number one pick. I don’t think any of those young guys want anything to do with TN and literally no one to blame but the organization staff.
They are earning the reputation of a dysfunctional organization!
Wasn't Callahan Brinker's guy? Maybe they will be in lockstep so why not just make Brinker the GM and hire an assistant GM to help him?
Brinker absolutely signed off on the Callahan hire, yup.
Amy should just go ahead and name Brinker the GM and find a new President of Football...BUT, leave him out of the personnel decision making process. That should be between the GM and the HC alone. They made a big mistake in firing a playoff caliber HC in Vrabel, and it seems this firing is an admission of that mistake. I thought Carthon was doing a pretty good job, overall...but had missed big time on Levis and the Right side of the OL. He should have spent some $$ on a competent RT going into the season, because what they had was not going to cut it. Most fans knew this last year.
We have to redefine our definition of a "GM" because it doesn't mean the same thing here. Firing Carthon is certainly an admission of mistake firing Vrabel.
I'm like the only person thats into this. The roster is horrible and his free agency last year just felt so lacking in direction. I'm encouraged by Brinker purely because he has a vision, and by Callahan, who I do believe might be able to grow into the role.
I really don't get how firing one person is dysfunctional but instead firing multiple people is somehow good process. You should at this point have a better idea if Callahan and Brinker can work together and what they need to support them, than some random new guy would about a guy he spends 3 hours with in an interview before hiring him.
Will it work? Probably not, most hirings don't regardless of when the people were hired. But if they find better QB play than last year no one will care and they'll have time to give it a shot.
It just feels like they're always firing one & not the other. Half measures. Need clear direction and vision!
the most polite thing I have to say is that we have become the NY Jets, Cleveland Brown or Chicago Bears of the NFL...I have seen my share of low moments in Oilers/Titans History but this is definitely a top 5 or top 10 at the very least...Amy's dad must be rolling in his grave...
Fire Ran? ok whatever but bring another GM with one hand behind his back making decision to a coaching staff he did not select??? Chad Brinker and Amy, time will tell if you know what you're doing....
I will re-evaluate the process in free agency and the next draft and curious about what are the next step of this rebuild...
Certainly feels like rock bottom..
Let's see if Chad Brinker gets Patience.. Brian Callahan certainly may not ..
I never wanted this to happen, but what softens the blow for me is that it now seems Ran’s “promotion” last year was really a demotion in disguise, as some reports point to him wanting to be out of the building for a few months now. It seems Brinker usurped his position and I can’t hate the idea of an understudy being so good he kicks the original guy out. Maybe he has the chops or was the secret weapon for the draft. He was at the Senior Bowl, Carthon and Cally weren’t, and Brownlee was at the Senior Bowl…
I’m sick of the dysfunction man. Just make it work
Certainly feels like Brinker was running the show behind the scenes.
Brinker was just as involved in HC hire as Ran per himself. Brinker said he was in on every meeting last offseason. Jack Easterby 2.0
He definitely signed off on Callahan, yes!
I understands it a promotion. But why would anyon leave their current job to go to Tennessee where you can be fired in a year or two. Just don't see any candidates risking that. Just like Adam Peter's last year
Someone will be desperate enough for GM title, we presume.
Seems to me Briker is the GM. Ran Carthon was fired because he didn't really do anything anymore when they realized he was in over his head! Maybe Brinker was a big fan of Callaghan and has no plan of replacing him. Leaving Brinker to make final decisions gives them just as much, if not more continuity than with Ran. I just think it may have become a "what would you say ya do here" situation. Why are we paying you?
Brinker is certainly the GM in acting! Have to redefine how we think of the term "GM" here. The next guy will answer to Carthon.
Mularkey was fired because he wouldn’t fire his OC, Terry Robiskie.
Certainly part of it, but Jon Robinson was never a fan. He simply entertained Amy to get the job.
As long as Amy Adam's strunk owns this team the titans will not be good she does not know how to run a football organization organization
Hard to argue with that right now..
i feel like Sundays are gonna be awful indefinitely...
Enjoy these next 9 months without Titans football!
First!
Big Dog!
PKs article explains very well why Ran got fired imo. He is not a film grinder the way the organisation needs him to be. He got hired as a relationship guru to work with Vrabel. Vrabel didn’t want him so now Amy realised it’s pointless to keep him, I don’t hate the decision.
If Vrabel didn't want him, why did she hire him to begin with? She chose wrong and ended up with egg on her face just 12 months later.
@ yes! And this firing is she admitting the error, that can happen. It means an error has been made and now it’s time to make up for it.
I am a bit confused, was Ran in charge or Chad this season, if so then Chad is responsible for the shit show this year. Maybe all this second guessing is getting us nowhere. I think the real problem is Amy. It defo bad process. Also Vrable wasn’t doing it for two season in a row. His stubbornness with poor coaches (Todd Downing), interfering with good coaches (Dean Pees)was his downfall.
@@MusicCityAudiblePodcastVrabel wanted an internal hire that would be a yes man. Vrabel undermined two GM’s trying to gain team control.
@@neilh6798 Chad wasn’t in charge, he is now
This franchise is a joke. Amy adams needs to be removed as owner. I am disappointed and ashamed to be a fan of this team.
Directionless!
Cheers to another 25 years of unmitigated failure gents! 🍻
We'll keep the beer cold for you!
Seems like toxic energy from within. WRONG move but Titan up I guess.
Titan... Down
even we got a reaction from Deion Sanders on Twitter...I'm not the biggest fan of Shedeur as a #1 pick but for sure that is an option we can kiss goodbye....even Travis Hunter could say heck no to the Titans for all we know...
Unless Chad Brinker and Amy are able to work miracles and offer Deion a deal he can't refuse...
LOL
Not sure what Deion meant! Hunter has said he wants to go #1 no matter what.
Why would you be a virtual GM and hire a GM? makes no sense. And, we need to stop acquiring the other AFC South leftovers.
The process doesn't make sense!
I never like the hirimg of carthon in the first place. Now we have no Henry, no Vrabel, and a shadow gm in Brinker
Yiiiiikes indeed 😬
Clown show so happy this organization showed its true colors. They never won a championship and never will. Done with them
We hope you'll stick around :(
@ i can’t ..what I’ve learned about the Titans organization 1. They are going to stab each other in the back from the days of malarkey til now.. 2. When the person is fired here comes the smear campaign 3. They don’t clear house so whoever is left over is in survival mode 4. cycle continues…. Sorry love the team(players) but I can’t do the organization
Well all that matters are results and after being the worst team in the NFL someone's head had to roll. IMO I'd have fired Cally and his staff and started from scratch. Let the new regime decide if they want a Qb in this draft. The issue here is if Cally is a dud coach it won't matter who the GM is. Now from Amy's perspective she is spending millions for a shite show. Cally not only stinks as a coach but his choice of STs coach and OC appears to be horrific. They totally mismanaged Levis who regressed. I'm fine with the firing just wish they had cleaned house and let someoen competent work with Brinker. Look, it is really easy for someone like Brinker point out all the failures from his position despite the fact he ws probably part of it. Beg Vrabel to come back.
They should have fired EVERYONE if they were firing ANYONE.
Amy is a terrible owner!! She has no direction. Back in the good years I used to think she was a good owner because she just sat back and let John Robinson and Vrabel work. I wish she could just crawl back to Vrabel and ask him to come back and be lord dictator over the team
Things worked out when she had a GM/HC in lockstep (Robinson/Vrabel). It's all crumbled since.
So the next GM won't actually be a GM. Pure Titans fashion.
Essentially!