I've used all the chains mentioned in this video (except the super skip). The Granberg was a revelation, faster, easier, smoother cut. Wouldn't use anything else now. Also works well for halving a log for bowl blanks. I am not associated with Granberg.
Another great video. Thanks for the info on all the chain types. How about a video about chain speed and smoothness of cuts after the sharpening tips video? Also showing milling from smaller chain saws would also be nice. Again keep up the great work.
I will have to say a couple things based on my limited experience - Crosscut chain can give a better finish than milling as the side plate angle is more acute and therefore will cut more cleanly - BUT! The more acute angle also means it is more likely to dive into the wood and leave big gouges when you stop or wiggle the bar - I had awesome results on some ash with a standard 30deg chain but I had to be super careful to cut smoothly! No wiggling, one smooth cut from start to finish! Being on a budget and only having a small (62cc) saw I've got myself a low profile .325 setup going on - Purely to put less stress on the saw, seems to be working so far!
I'm also on .325 (MS261), with Granberg chain. Their .325 setup is angled slightly differently to what the bigger chains are set to, was wondering if @SecondLifeDesign could comment on that as part of the much-anticipated sharpening video?
One thing I noticed, the first chain was a full chisel and second one semi chisel. I have used both for milling. Yes the full chisel leaves a horrible finish. The semi chisel left a much smoother cut. Both were ground to the standard 30° angle. Thats just my thoughts.
I've had good luck with archer ripping chain. Ive milled 2 16' 28” diameter oak logs into 2 1/4" slabs haven't sharpened yet. $28 for 114dl 36” bar chain.
Seems to me that skip chain might be a good idea if you are running a longer bar than the manufacturer recommends on your saw. You can get the extra reach and maybe not stress the motor as much. Then again that granberg would probably be just as good of an option.
Perhaps think of putting out a video on how to get a good quality used chainsaw. Where to look for them (tree service, etc...) & what stay away from or what to look for in a used chainsaw.
OK, you are my new best friend. I've worked for a handful of sawyers and now came into 40+ logs of my own so hangin a shingle, so to speak. My logs are between 8 and 15' long by 20 to 24" diameter and I'm going to slab them for tables. My buy list is a Granberg 24" MKIV chainsaw mill w/all the extras (quick release clamps, roller brackets, winch system, spare parts, etc...) and I've been looking around for advice on chains -- God directed me to you. I'm pretty much set on the Echo CS-7310P chainsaw (73.5cc). My logs are mostly pine and oak with a handful poplar stragglers. I've been told ripping chains are the best for milling/slabbing for the cleaner cut but have not ordered as yet. Thanks for the promocode - I'll be using it for what will be a large order. So which chain do you recommend for me? Was going to order Granberg's 3/8" x .050 ripping chain 72 Drive links. Would this be correct for me? Hoping to hear from you and won't order until I get ur advice. Thank you --- subscribed and going to go back and watch all ur vids with a pen and notebook...
Thanks for following along! The chain size you need will be stamped on the bar. There’s no performance difference between the sizes. As long as it’s ripping chain, it will work great!
Even though I have 2 new Baily’s Ripping chains, I went ahead a bought the Granberg Mentioned above.. it’s alittle more exp than Bailys and longer shipping 🙃 but we will see how well it does ..
I heard you say you buy rolls of chain. How bout a how to on the make your own loops from bulk chain rolls? That would be of interest. (Haven't watched all your videos so you might've done that already)
ive used grandburgs for awhile now. they do cut apx 4 seconds faster than a cross cut chain. and does make a better quality cut. that said. they are a huge pain in butt to sharpen. one for my saw says the scors have to be at a 30 degree and a 0 degree for the clearers. thats a lot of flip flopen for my bench sharpner!!! takes for evor to sharpen them!
Not sure if my question is whole video worthy, but, here it goes. I live a few hours north of you and with the temps starting to cool off and winter coming, what is the solution for sealing log ends after "the freeze"?
You mentioned using the 30 degree full chisel for cookies (wife wants a bunch!) if you get a smoother cut with other chains why not use them for cookies? Less sanding is a big win in that department… thanks for the great vids!
It’s a totally different kind of cut. It’s ripping and cross-cutting. Different chains for different needs. Unfortunately neither chain will eliminate the need for flattening after cutting.
For cutting cookies I'd recommend a standard semi chisel chain. It will leave a substantially smoother finish on your cookies. The problem with a full chisel is the hard corner at the shoulder on each tooth has a scratching effect so it leaves a very rough jagged finish which is more material you will have to remove to get a smooth surface once the cookies are dried.
Hi have big pine to mill its my first tree ever to chain saw mill. 32 in bar 3/8 .063. Chainsaw 90 cc. Love your vdo on grandberg rip chain but cant wait 4 weeks to get one. Any tips when dealing with pine.
Jared hi like what you do and very informative keep it up. I do have a question what is the difference between a GB 42" and a Oregon 42" bar besides the price? I see that Granberg sell the GB and I am entertaining getting one but I am hesitant if a Oregon would do the same job.
I could take a full comp and cut 2 cutters back and 10 degree the other 2. I have a lot of chains I could grind up. Hmmm. Correction. I'm full in on an oragon ripping chain.
I have found it depends on the size of wood you are milling. I have a 28" bar and find a standard full house full chisel chain works great for me and no extra cost. Wouldnt mind trying a 10 degree square grind chain.
Check out what "surviving ringworm" has to say on his channel about milling. He found a regular full chisel chain sharpened to 0 degrees was the smoothest for him. I wonder if a semi chisel would work better at 0 degrees. He didn't say.
Regardless of filing angle a semi chisel chain will always give you a smoother finish on your boards than a full chisel chain. Semi chisel has a rounded or chamfered shoulder on each tooth which doesn't leave the deep scratch marks like the hard corner at the shoulder of each tooth on a full chisel. For the same reason semi chisel chain is also a little more durable and tends to go slightly longer in between sharpenings. That being said full chisel is generally the faster cutting of the 2. When milling I'll sacrifice a little bit of cutting speed for cut quality because it is less planing I'll have to do once the lumber is dry.
@@johnnorris1227 I milled a bunch of white Pine and it turned out well enough not to plane it. Full chisel sharpened by hand. I made siding for my house not furniture or anything that is fine finished. Cheers
I’m still preparing for my first milling. I have 3 logs I’m planning to mill. I’ve always been bad at maintenance of small engines and I love the idea of a battery powered chainsaw. I heard a pretty good review of the 80 volt one from harbor freight. Do you have an opinion? What is really involved in good chainsaw maintenance? I’ve tried a few gas powered and a few electric ones and the electric ones are always easier to get started.
So the type of shavings has to do with the angle of the chain and the orientation to which you are cutting. Milling chain produces fine dust when it’s running correctly.
And I thought Grandberg ripper had worn out after just a few cuts... Hehh, heh. But Yeah I got my ripping chain from Grandberg and never thought about it til one day I looked closely! I had to go look at it online again to see what I had was how it was made intentionally! After realizing that, I went back and cut the rest of the new boards! I love it! The Grandberg chain is unique and it really kicks butt!
I love my Granberg Ripping chain.
I've used all the chains mentioned in this video (except the super skip). The Granberg was a revelation, faster, easier, smoother cut. Wouldn't use anything else now. Also works well for halving a log for bowl blanks. I am not associated with Granberg.
Another great video. Thanks for the info on all the chain types. How about a video about chain speed and smoothness of cuts after the sharpening tips video? Also showing milling from smaller chain saws would also be nice. Again keep up the great work.
Small chainsaws are for people that dont know better. Dudes in jaws wish they had a bigger boat
I’m using the Granberg chain, too and I agree that it is the best option. Looking forward to your thoughts on sharpening.
I will have to say a couple things based on my limited experience - Crosscut chain can give a better finish than milling as the side plate angle is more acute and therefore will cut more cleanly - BUT! The more acute angle also means it is more likely to dive into the wood and leave big gouges when you stop or wiggle the bar - I had awesome results on some ash with a standard 30deg chain but I had to be super careful to cut smoothly! No wiggling, one smooth cut from start to finish!
Being on a budget and only having a small (62cc) saw I've got myself a low profile .325 setup going on - Purely to put less stress on the saw, seems to be working so far!
I'm also on .325 (MS261), with Granberg chain. Their .325 setup is angled slightly differently to what the bigger chains are set to, was wondering if @SecondLifeDesign could comment on that as part of the much-anticipated sharpening video?
One thing I noticed, the first chain was a full chisel and second one semi chisel. I have used both for milling. Yes the full chisel leaves a horrible finish. The semi chisel left a much smoother cut. Both were ground to the standard 30° angle. Thats just my thoughts.
I've had good luck with archer ripping chain. Ive milled 2 16' 28” diameter oak logs into 2 1/4" slabs haven't sharpened yet. $28 for 114dl 36” bar chain.
I also have been happy with my archers on my 395 and 440.
Seems to me that skip chain might be a good idea if you are running a longer bar than the manufacturer recommends on your saw. You can get the extra reach and maybe not stress the motor as much. Then again that granberg would probably be just as good of an option.
Nice video man. Always like your content and knowledge. :)
Thanks!
Perhaps think of putting out a video on how to get a good quality used chainsaw. Where to look for them (tree service, etc...) & what stay away from or what to look for in a used chainsaw.
OK, you are my new best friend. I've worked for a handful of sawyers and now came into 40+ logs of my own so hangin a shingle, so to speak. My logs are between 8 and 15' long by 20 to 24" diameter and I'm going to slab them for tables. My buy list is a Granberg 24" MKIV chainsaw mill w/all the extras (quick release clamps, roller brackets, winch system, spare parts, etc...) and I've been looking around for advice on chains -- God directed me to you. I'm pretty much set on the Echo CS-7310P chainsaw (73.5cc). My logs are mostly pine and oak with a handful poplar stragglers. I've been told ripping chains are the best for milling/slabbing for the cleaner cut but have not ordered as yet. Thanks for the promocode - I'll be using it for what will be a large order. So which chain do you recommend for me? Was going to order Granberg's 3/8" x .050 ripping chain 72 Drive links. Would this be correct for me? Hoping to hear from you and won't order until I get ur advice. Thank you --- subscribed and going to go back and watch all ur vids with a pen and notebook...
Thanks for following along! The chain size you need will be stamped on the bar. There’s no performance difference between the sizes. As long as it’s ripping chain, it will work great!
@@SlabGuy TY sir, lovin ur vids. Looking forward to WW Wednesday's
Ty so much new to this. Grandberg says 4 to 5 weeks lead time
Even though I have 2 new Baily’s Ripping chains, I went ahead a bought the Granberg Mentioned above.. it’s alittle more exp than Bailys and longer shipping 🙃 but we will see how well it does ..
Get a result yet on the 2 chains ?
Make your own skip tooth chain!
I heard you say you buy rolls of chain. How bout a how to on the make your own loops from bulk chain rolls? That would be of interest. (Haven't watched all your videos so you might've done that already)
It’s a pretty straightforward process, just requires a couple tools. It’s the same and making bicycle chain.
Sweet, did not know about this chain.. thanks for the vids
The hyper skip is for extra long bars to facilitate chip removal.
Thanks for the explanation. Answered some questions i had 👍
Nice info! Didn't know about the swedish chain.
ive used grandburgs for awhile now. they do cut apx 4 seconds faster than a cross cut chain. and does make a better quality cut. that said. they are a huge pain in butt to sharpen. one for my saw says the scors have to be at a 30 degree and a 0 degree for the clearers. thats a lot of flip flopen for my bench sharpner!!! takes for evor to sharpen them!
What I am wondering is that if you have three times the power, why would you want only to use half the number of teeth on the chain ??? Thanks
Not sure if my question is whole video worthy, but, here it goes. I live a few hours north of you and with the temps starting to cool off and winter coming, what is the solution for sealing log ends after "the freeze"?
My 880 dont care if its ripping or 325, proper sharpening is all that matters an how wide an long the slab is.
You mentioned using the 30 degree full chisel for cookies (wife wants a bunch!) if you get a smoother cut with other chains why not use them for cookies? Less sanding is a big win in that department… thanks for the great vids!
It’s a totally different kind of cut. It’s ripping and cross-cutting. Different chains for different needs.
Unfortunately neither chain will eliminate the need for flattening after cutting.
Thanks! Reckon I got what I need then!
For cutting cookies I'd recommend a standard semi chisel chain. It will leave a substantially smoother finish on your cookies. The problem with a full chisel is the hard corner at the shoulder on each tooth has a scratching effect so it leaves a very rough jagged finish which is more material you will have to remove to get a smooth surface once the cookies are dried.
@@johnnorris1227 thank you very much!
Just starting into chainsaw milling. Need the details. What is the name on the box for the Grandberg chain?
Hi have big pine to mill its my first tree ever to chain saw mill. 32 in bar 3/8 .063. Chainsaw 90 cc. Love your vdo on grandberg rip chain but cant wait 4 weeks to get one. Any tips when dealing with pine.
Got a link for the sharpening video?
Jared hi like what you do and very informative keep it up. I do have a question what is the difference between a GB 42" and a Oregon 42" bar besides the price? I see that Granberg sell the GB and I am entertaining getting one but I am hesitant if a Oregon would do the same job.
I think either will work, the GB will just last longer. It’s also likely not to have as much flex=Slabs that are flat with no high/low spots.
I could take a full comp and cut 2 cutters back and 10 degree the other 2. I have a lot of chains I could grind up. Hmmm.
Correction. I'm full in on an oragon ripping chain.
I have found it depends on the size of wood you are milling. I have a 28" bar and find a standard full house full chisel chain works great for me and no extra cost. Wouldnt mind trying a 10 degree square grind chain.
Check out what "surviving ringworm" has to say on his channel about milling. He found a regular full chisel chain sharpened to 0 degrees was the smoothest for him. I wonder if a semi chisel would work better at 0 degrees. He didn't say.
Regardless of filing angle a semi chisel chain will always give you a smoother finish on your boards than a full chisel chain. Semi chisel has a rounded or chamfered shoulder on each tooth which doesn't leave the deep scratch marks like the hard corner at the shoulder of each tooth on a full chisel. For the same reason semi chisel chain is also a little more durable and tends to go slightly longer in between sharpenings. That being said full chisel is generally the faster cutting of the 2. When milling I'll sacrifice a little bit of cutting speed for cut quality because it is less planing I'll have to do once the lumber is dry.
@@johnnorris1227 I milled a bunch of white Pine and it turned out well enough not to plane it. Full chisel sharpened by hand. I made siding for my house not furniture or anything that is fine finished. Cheers
Very informative. Thanks.
I’m still preparing for my first milling. I have 3 logs I’m planning to mill. I’ve always been bad at maintenance of small engines and I love the idea of a battery powered chainsaw. I heard a pretty good review of the 80 volt one from harbor freight. Do you have an opinion? What is really involved in good chainsaw maintenance? I’ve tried a few gas powered and a few electric ones and the electric ones are always easier to get started.
Please use the electric, worst idea ever
hi i use a echo 62cc 24 inches for my alaska mill what would be the granberg chain number identification if y want to buy some
I mill residential and like the speed, I would rather sharpen twice as often to reduce the burden on my clients neighbors
The reason for less teeth is to help clear out the kerf. It's similar to using a ripping blade or crosscut blade on a table saw.
That being said I haven't tried the granberg chain yet. I'd like to, just haven't run through my current chains yet
@@joelthoenen3733
Leave off the kool kids 'that being said' horseshit.
Which specific Granberg chain are you referring to? The low pro ripping chain or the ripping chain?
It’s all the same profile, available in many sizes.
Anyone ever try a carbide crass cut chain for milling? Just wonder if it would stay sharp longer if one was going for the rough cut look.
What techniques can we use to get more efficient cuts that produce the long & stringy vs fine grain sawdust?
So the type of shavings has to do with the angle of the chain and the orientation to which you are cutting. Milling chain produces fine dust when it’s running correctly.
And I thought Grandberg ripper had worn out after just a few cuts... Hehh, heh. But Yeah I got my ripping chain from Grandberg and never thought about it til one day I looked closely! I had to go look at it online again to see what I had was how it was made intentionally! After realizing that, I went back and cut the rest of the new boards! I love it! The Grandberg chain is unique and it really kicks butt!
newbie miller here. The Granburg site does not show 125DL for my 42" bar. Can i use 124DL?
You should be able to buy chains from Granberg by the link. You enter the number when checking out.
Has anyone experienced trouble trying to hand-file Granberg milling chain? My files seem to be dulling extremely fast on this chain only.
What is the coupon code for grandberg ?
Use code secondlifedesign to save 10%!
@@SlabGuy thank you !!!