@@MrArt69 No it is a safety feature, notice how the car lifts up and the rpms were very high. The car went in to neutral to make sure you wouldn’t be going full throtlle if the tires would be lifted from the ground. You know like when rally cars are constantly hitting the rev limiter while in the air. But this is a streetcar not a rally car that switches a ton of very expensive parts quite often xD Btw they also said it “component protection”. Better having that then staying in gear and having heavy damage afterwards.
Why is everyone freaking out about the tires? First of all, they're not RACE tires, they're road legal. Second, EVERY SINGLE other hot hatchback, like the Megane RS, Civic Type R, Golf GTI Clubsport, Seat Leon Cupra, etc. all used the same grade, semi-slick, track focused tires as well. Also, people ignore that just putting semi-slick tires onto any car doesn't lead to better results. Semi-slick tires increase the grip a lot, but they also increase all the loads on the chassis, the suspension, the body, etc. If the cars chassis is not good enough, it will wallow around, lack body control, lean too much in the corners, etc. Only cars with a great chassis can handle having such high grip tires on them and STILL be super refined, super smooth, with excellent body control. That means the chassis on this car is very tight and well tuned.
I'm pretty sure that the Megane Trophy-R was on its factory tyres which aren't proper semi slicks. Still it's beating this A-class by quite a bit. I know it's stripped down but well, it still shows how good the Renault's chassis is.
Sport Auto times driven by Christian Gehardt comparison : Cayman GT4 981 7:44 / Cayman S 718 7:47 / TTRS 7,48 / BMW Z4 7:55 / BMW M2 8:01 ; quit a good lap time for the A45s
*I Believe There Should Be A [DISCLAIMER] Saying: "These Tests Shouldn't Be Compared To Official Lap Records Set By Manufacturers. These Times Can, And Should Only Be Compared To Other Sport Auto (SuperTest) Laps."
I have to disagree here : Sport auto has an experienced driver, he's been doing hot laps for years and he knows the track perfectly so at this point he is no different to a factory driver.
Meiner Meinung nach unfair von Mercedes einen Reifen bereit zu stellen der null alltagstauglich ist , obwohl es ein Alltags Auto ist , der das Ergebnis um sicher 10 Sekunden zu einem normalen Reifen (PS4 , Supersport ) verfälscht . Und dazu kommt noch das der Tropfers R Reifen noch nicht einmal ein options Reifen Werksseitig ist , also gar nciht angeboten wird beim A 45 s . Übrigens streute der Getestete Wagen schlappe 8,3 Prozent mit der Werksleistung nach oben (456ps) siehe aktuelle Sport Auto Zeitung . fraglich ob ein normaler A45 s jemals annähernd die Zeiten von Kunden fahren würde . Trotzdem top gefahren . Grüße.
@@DonLee1980 i don't know about the A45s but for my focus RS, the crank HP is 350 and I have 250-270 something HP on wheel when we run the dyno, i couldn't recall the exact HP I got but it's a great loss compared to the power on the crank
AMDxSTorM the difference power loss with FWD and AWD is about 10% and 20% in total power. Don’t forget the A45 is primarily FWD biased. The power to the wheels of the A45s should be still considerably more than even the crank HP of the civic.
a45s is kinda heavy though. I think it weighs 1635 kgs which is 200kgs heavier compared to the Civic. Civic has 225 hp/ton vs 255 hp/ton of the A45S. Civic has a drag coefficient of 0.26 while the A45S has a drag coefficient of 0.34. The horsepower difference is offset with a lot more drag from the Merc. The heavier Merc couldn’t keep up in the corners, and there are 170 corners in the Nurburgring. Not being a Honda fanboi or anything but the evidence is against Merc on this one. There are plenty of cars that have a similar lap time (faster and slower) to the Merc that have much less power. Namely the Renault Megane Trophy, Honda NSX-R, 2011 Impreza WRX STi. On the flip side, the original R35 GT-R is only 8 seconds faster than this. A Lambo Murcielago is only 6 seconds faster than the Merc. The 1st gen Audi R8 V10 is only 4 seconds faster than this hatch.
This is quite fast even with the gearbox fault, although it's done on Trofeo R, which is silly sticky and makes the 7:52 done by Supra and M2 Comp seem slightly more impressive
@The Truth no. The Supra and the m2 did NOT use any semi slick. This kind of tire can give you at least 1 second per kilometer advantage as average. So....
Falsch , Renault ist die runde mit einem 85000€ teurenTrophy R gefahren ( Carbon Felgen, Käfig usw). Werkszeiten sind mit den Zeiten von Sport Auto nicht zu vergleichen.Genau so wenig wie die Zeit vom Type R. Honda hat in einem Statement zugegeben ,dass das Fahrzeug nicht ganz der Serie entsprach.
Damn. Going flat out, no lift, while cutting those chicanes. No understeer at all! Makes me wonder if the a/cla45 are only fwd diring city driving and cruising.
Mit dem Carporn vorne weg deutlich runderes Format statt nur die schnelle Runde auf der Nordschleife. In Anlehnung an Fast Lap vielleicht noch ein paar Worte des Fahrers im Anschluss zum Auto und zur schnellen Runde auf der NOS und es gibt nix mehr zu ergänzen. :) Weiter so. Zum A45S: Ein echter Traumwagen in der Hot Hatch Klasse. Die Zeit ist echt beeindruckend. Bezüglich der Reifenwahl bin ich aber auch eher skeptisch. M.W. ist der Trofeo R noch kompromissloser als der häufig bei VAG verwendete Cup 2. Ich kann mir kaum vorstellen, dass viele Kunden für ein 1,6 Tonnen Fahrzeug für knapp 80 k Euro diesen Reifen wählen werden. Es ist kein klassisches Track Day Car so dass die Zeit auf der NOS zwar beeindruckend und spannend zu sehen ist, aber für die Realität vermutlich wenig Relevanz hat. Dennoch großen Respekt an AMG. Der A45S ist ein tolles Auto geworden. Daumen hoch.
Fave ich wüsste zu gerne wo es diese Reifen zu kaufen gibt, ich habe schon einige Händler angesprochen, alle gaben mir die Auskunft: Nicht lieferbar. Ich fahre übrigens seit kurzen den A45S, war aber noch nicht auf dem Track damit...
Mercedes is really up to their games now..they are no more grannys and grandpas car..they can really compete with high end sports car brands nowadays.. good job Benz!
@@timonxDlol ich habe schon drin gesessen im neuen A45 und mich wirklich unwohl gefühlt. Aber so hat jeder seinen Geschmack, wäre ja schlimm wenn es bei allen gleich wäre 😊
@@rene21071987 Klar ist es geschmackssache. Aber ich denke es ist auch eine Zeitfrage. Sitzt man kurz drin oder länger etc. Fands z.b. in der neuen E Klasse auch scheiße, dann hatten wir eine für längere Zeit und fands ganz gut, dann hab ich eine selbst konfigurierte gehabt und fand den innenraum perfekt, sodass ich nochmal eine e klasse genommen hatte.. Ist echt auch gewohnheitssache
@@timonxDlol gebe ich dir vollkommen recht, man gewöhnt sich an vieles. Für mich ist das einfach viel zu überladen, deshalb nicht meins. Ich mag es eher schlicht und analog 😊
@@rene21071987 klingt dumm aber ich finde gerade das daimler interieur noch relativ schlicht und wenigstens hat es noch knöpfe. Audi ist für mich momentan am schlimmsten was die menge an touchscreens etc angeht. BMW macht sich bei den neuen gut
Ich bin eigentlich echter mercdes Fan, ich hatte das Auto letzte Woche zum Probefahren da ich mir eigentlich den CLA 45S ab Oktober leasen wollte, aber nach dem Wochenende hab ich mir das nochmal überlegt. Vorneweg das Auto macht richtig Laune aber das nervigste und das hört man in diesem Video auch schon ist dieser grotten schlechte Lautsprecher Sound man hat nach außen kaum ein Geräusch alles was man hier hört ist künstlich es kommt zu 98% aus den Lautsprechern was man gerade in Sport+ sehr stark merkt. Ich fahre momentan nen CLA 250 mit umgebauter AGA und der liefert mehr Emotion als der AMG was echt traurig ist
Love the Sport Auto Supertest! It really is the ultimate test. Mercedes did an excellent job with that baby AMG but the Corsa R tires definitely played a part in that record time! I would love to see the new Corvette C8 AND the new Cayman 4.0 GTS performing the Supertest! Thanks👍🏻👍🏻
The Truth They said that already, it was 0.8 sec. Those semi-slick tires can gain up to 1.5 sec in a 4 km track over a very good tire like the Michelin PS4. Considering the Nordschleife is roughly 20 km. We’re talking up to 7.5 sec total. That’s something. But I note that in every car using those tires or the Cup 2’s , like the Cayman GT4. But make no mistake, I love the new A45 S AMG. It’s only a fair comment!
Guys, comparing a test done by a professional driver and organized by a brand and another that is done by an Auto magazine is not really fair ... + there is a new official course on the Nürburgring since this year, ( before the test from Renault) with a complete lap which makes now 20.832 km (start and end of the lap on the start / finish line, start of T13). On this route, the time of the Megane is 7 minutes 45 seconds 389. They only gave the 7:40 to brag they have beaten the Civic. Finally, we are talking about a car stripped to the extreme which must be unlivable on a daily basis. Lastly, i'm pretty sure to pick a cute woman in the Merc , the other is just a Renault :D
This is cheating, trofeo R is about 1second faster than Cup2 per minute and 2 seconds faster than high performance summer tires per minute, so if A45S equipped with factory sport tires it would be around 15 seconds slower, which would be 8:03(minus the time loss caused by gearbox issue)
German Big Yeah I know, I am just saying if A45S uses similar tyre that everyone else uses, then it would be a slow car, you do get better lap-times with Trofeo R but these tyres are terrible in cold and wet conditions, also comfort, NVH and tread wear is bad. if the A45S can do the same lap time with P0 Corsa or PS4S then it’s really the king of the hatch backs, but claim the crown by fitting some tyres that are not really livable for everyday driving? What’s the point
Das Auto hat einfach mal 456PS und damit 8% mehr Leistung als angegeben. Ganz arm von Mercedes und warum wird es in der Videobeschreibung nicht erwähnt?
The Megane Trophy R is 8 seconds quicker with 120bhp less. So the standard Trophy should be still as quick if not quicker still 🤔 Heck, a Type R is quicker too.
@@onehorsepower He speaks about the standard "RS Trophy" which makes 300 hp like the "RS Trophy-R" but with different setup and 130 kg more weight, and not the RS 280. And yes the regular Mégane 4 RS Trophy is easily sub 8.00 on Nordschleife, maybe somewhere around 7:45/7:50 while Trophy R is 7:40. It is just minimaly slower than the Trophy-R but way cheaper. A colleague of mine bought it new at Renault Frankfurt for 35K. This Mercedes has a lot more HP, but the chassis is not on the level of the Mégane and the Civic.
@@pokest225 7.40 is the official time of the Mégane RS Trophy-R. Mercedes have to send their own driver, and see if they can do better. This Mercedes tested by Sport Auto is on semi-slicks (Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R) while the Mégane tested by Sport Auto is on Sport Summer tires (Bridgestone Potenza S007 RS). This makes a huge difference. Now put the R.S. Trophy-R with semi slicks and you will see the difference though the Mégane has a lot less HP.
Denk ich mir bei mir auch. Und als normaler touristenfahrer wird man einem a45s Fahrer damit schon die Hölle heiß machen, der Blick dürfte unbezahlbar sein, wenn er sich von einem auto ärgern lässt welches nur die Hälfte kostet lol. 😁😁😁
@@blackbee_v8 Keiner lässt sich von so einer Reisschüssel beeindrucken, weil es niemanden interessiert. Wie im Kindergarten hier: guck mal mein Auto ist schneller als deins...
@@grasak1594 do you believe this car can do a better time than this..?? you may be right, I haven't thought about the pilot's ability, I don't know if he is a journalist or a pilot..
@@stefanodeberardinis Nope...But you made this comparisson 2 times wrong: 1. Comparing Alfa Giulia QV vs hatchback (Megane is closer to A45 S, but it's hardcore track hatchback with roll cages, no rear seats etc.) 2. It's better to compare factory lap times to factory lap times cuz every manufatcurer will put the best lap their car can do vs magazine lap time that may not always be in perfect conditions
The Alfa laptime was set by the manufacturer with a professional driver, unknown settings and not by a neutral sportscars journalist. The only neutral comparison was on the Sachsenring where the A45S was quicker than the QV by 2 sec. Apart from the fact that this two cars aren‘t rivals in the same category.
my comment simply wanted to refer to the title that highlighted the time to make clickbait title. The second part of the comment wanted to express how a 75,000-dollar Italian car with the value of a ferrari engine can do better and how a car with a best value for money ratio like the renault can destroy a car that also costs 25,000 dollars more .. the renault I think it costs about 55,000 euros.
@@brunobegic3841 FK8 TYPE R Nurburgring Record 320hp /400nm Tyres: The famed Lap Record in the FK8R's Nurburgring run was achieved on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres, one of the best road tyres available off the shelves. Roll Cage: The entire internet had noticed and pointed out that the FK8R had been outfitted with a roll cage during its 7:4X Nurburgring run. So what was that about? Hideki-San had then clarified that the roll cage were sitting on rubber mounts instead of being directly bolted or welded to the car's floor. So no part of the roll cage was integral to the FK8R's structural rigidity, thus not cheating in any way. Rear seat is remain in the car, but no aircond.
There was a little gearbox failure (component protection) at 7:59. The gearbox suddenly went into "N". Loss of time: 0,8 seconds.
going out of carussel too.. to late upshifting
@sport auto: How did you calculate the 0,8 seconds time loss? 🤔
Why is he changing gears manually thouh? Should have kept it to race mod and automatic.
@@MrArt69 No it is a safety feature, notice how the car lifts up and the rpms were very high. The car went in to neutral to make sure you wouldn’t be going full throtlle if the tires would be lifted from the ground.
You know like when rally cars are constantly hitting the rev limiter while in the air. But this is a streetcar not a rally car that switches a ton of very expensive parts quite often xD
Btw they also said it “component protection”. Better having that then staying in gear and having heavy damage afterwards.
Bullshit, the loss of focus from the driver due to the entire issue i can assure you led to much more loss of time.
Would've went a couple seconds faster if he had the interior lightning set to red, just saying..
that what i said...
Why is everyone freaking out about the tires? First of all, they're not RACE tires, they're road legal. Second, EVERY SINGLE other hot hatchback, like the Megane RS, Civic Type R, Golf GTI Clubsport, Seat Leon Cupra, etc. all used the same grade, semi-slick, track focused tires as well.
Also, people ignore that just putting semi-slick tires onto any car doesn't lead to better results. Semi-slick tires increase the grip a lot, but they also increase all the loads on the chassis, the suspension, the body, etc. If the cars chassis is not good enough, it will wallow around, lack body control, lean too much in the corners, etc. Only cars with a great chassis can handle having such high grip tires on them and STILL be super refined, super smooth, with excellent body control. That means the chassis on this car is very tight and well tuned.
Tires make all the difference in the world. Put it in stock tires and see what it would run
I'm pretty sure that the Megane Trophy-R was on its factory tyres which aren't proper semi slicks. Still it's beating this A-class by quite a bit. I know it's stripped down but well, it still shows how good the Renault's chassis is.
ruclips.net/video/4YSjItQneNM/видео.html Civic Type R on road legal track-focused tyres. The time difference is huuuuuge. Type R FTW.
Trophy r nurburgring king 🤪
@@Bearcityman civic 8:01 in this test. With cup2 tires.
Sport Auto times driven by Christian Gehardt comparison : Cayman GT4 981 7:44 / Cayman S 718 7:47 / TTRS 7,48 / BMW Z4 7:55 / BMW M2 8:01 ; quit a good lap time for the A45s
M2C 7:52, jedoch PSS und nicht Trofeo R wie hier.
Good🤣🤣 trophy r 7:40 🙌🙌
M2 does 7:42 , even audi ttrs does low 7:40 this amg is way slower than its competition
Yeah, the civic type R aint too shabby either
danach das auto verkaufen als garagenfahrzeug, nur bei sonne gefahren, man kennt ihn
Ist ja nur paar km gelaufen, also wie neu ;)
Ist das Auto denn weniger Wert wenn man ihn mal ARTGERECHT fährt!
An A-Class on Trofeo R's. AMG, Are You kidding me :D
Mislim da A45 S ima standardne P Zero gume, ovi ga nabudzili
AMG Rocks
Von 200 bis 260 bis Sonnenuntergang. Christian hat alles gegeben und aus dem Wagen herausgeholt was geht. Super gefahren. ☺️
Since when does this come with trofeo r tyres then?
Ich nehme positiv war dass ihr mittlerweile einen carporn vorne dransetzt! 2-3 Sätze von Christian dazu und es ist das beste Format!
Ah ok, driven on Semi-Slicks, i.e. ultra low profile race tire. I already wondered why the time is so good.
concur. are these the stock tires from the manufacture? probably not, or as an option.
John Crazy it says Trofeo R MO1, MO means it’s a Mercedes specific tyre, so yeah, it’s an option
Well, no, they're not a race tire. It's a road legal tire. Also, every car uses tires like these for record runs.
BeyerT1 i know it is road legal but even Pirelli itself calls it ultra low profile race tire ;)
@sennheiser seems like you are the only one with a problem lol
Not for sale in the USA, right? With basically track tires
Which tyres did you use on the M2 Competition test? Time was around 7:52,3 with the M2
Super sports. Michelin
Kommt die Fiesta ST Runde noch ?
Egal
Warum gibt es keine Aufnahme vom fiesta st super test?
lot of car experts in the comments i see.......
What’s up with this thing’s suspension? I feel like it bottomed out and went airborne more than any other car I’ve seem lap the Nordschleife.
Setup stiff af man...the a45 is pretty hard core in race settings...
please test the new 911 turbo s
Hebt er bei 2:53 ab?🤔
456ps on the Dyno？！How did this happen，what was the TCF value setting？
*I Believe There Should Be A [DISCLAIMER] Saying: "These Tests Shouldn't Be Compared To Official Lap Records Set By Manufacturers. These Times Can, And Should Only Be Compared To Other Sport Auto (SuperTest) Laps."
I have to disagree here : Sport auto has an experienced driver, he's been doing hot laps for years and he knows the track perfectly so at this point he is no different to a factory driver.
Agreed. Manufacturer drivers will practice a lot in a specific car
7:55 is where the Magic happens
what's the message on the dash ?
Robert Smith some sort of gearbox issue, car went into neutral.
Probably because the car hit the rev limiter while all four wheels were in the air.
I know that bug from Assetto Corsa when you jump.
Pre-crash systems activated because all 4 wheels left the ground and car expected a crash. It puts it into neutral by default.
Meiner Meinung nach unfair von Mercedes einen Reifen bereit zu stellen der null alltagstauglich ist , obwohl es ein Alltags Auto ist , der das Ergebnis um sicher 10 Sekunden zu einem normalen Reifen (PS4 , Supersport ) verfälscht . Und dazu kommt noch das der Tropfers R Reifen noch nicht einmal ein options Reifen Werksseitig ist , also gar nciht angeboten wird beim A 45 s . Übrigens streute der Getestete Wagen schlappe 8,3 Prozent mit der Werksleistung nach oben (456ps) siehe aktuelle Sport Auto Zeitung . fraglich ob ein normaler A45 s jemals annähernd die Zeiten von Kunden fahren würde . Trotzdem top gefahren . Grüße.
You can hear the delay in the gearbox !!!! TCU SOFTWARE IS A MUST ON THIS CAR !!! Listen up Mercedes !!!!! Bring a TCU update out come on !!!!!!
With all that power and awd I thought it would be faster, still a lovely car
Make it FWD and I would be faster
5 seconds slower than a Civic Type R.
hängt da ein altes Nokia 5110 an der A Säule? Hab die ganze Runde drauf geguckt.
7:56 neutral, 3 sec. lost..
Several test 😂😂😂
I’m wondering how it happened?
@@mbmann3892
Probably from the small airborne he had.
Balls the size of basketballs. Mega lap.
remember the questionable lap done by the civic type r back in 2016? the civic with "310hp" hit 270kph, while this 415hp hatch hit 266kph.
power delivered to wheels much less efficiently on AWD cars compared to FWD or RWD cars.
AMDxSTorM 30% loss? Haha....
@@DonLee1980 i don't know about the A45s but for my focus RS, the crank HP is 350 and I have 250-270 something HP on wheel when we run the dyno, i couldn't recall the exact HP I got but it's a great loss compared to the power on the crank
AMDxSTorM the difference power loss with FWD and AWD is about 10% and 20% in total power. Don’t forget the A45 is primarily FWD biased. The power to the wheels of the A45s should be still considerably more than even the crank HP of the civic.
a45s is kinda heavy though. I think it weighs 1635 kgs which is 200kgs heavier compared to the Civic. Civic has 225 hp/ton vs 255 hp/ton of the A45S. Civic has a drag coefficient of 0.26 while the A45S has a drag coefficient of 0.34. The horsepower difference is offset with a lot more drag from the Merc. The heavier Merc couldn’t keep up in the corners, and there are 170 corners in the Nurburgring.
Not being a Honda fanboi or anything but the evidence is against Merc on this one. There are plenty of cars that have a similar lap time (faster and slower) to the Merc that have much less power. Namely the Renault Megane Trophy, Honda NSX-R, 2011 Impreza WRX STi. On the flip side, the original R35 GT-R is only 8 seconds faster than this. A Lambo Murcielago is only 6 seconds faster than the Merc. The 1st gen Audi R8 V10 is only 4 seconds faster than this hatch.
I get a slight notion with a proper driver it could easily clock 40
would CLA45s be quicker or slower?
Little Bit faster
Faster, less drag.
@@robberth6947 Less drag but less downforce, so basically the same I would guess
what's the problem with tyres ?
7:59 The car wants halt, but he wants schnell
They do only one timelap?
7:59 "Ohh Scheiße..."
Automatic gearbox only for homosexuals...
AKA
Oh Fuck
This is quite fast even with the gearbox fault, although it's done on Trofeo R, which is silly sticky and makes the 7:52 done by Supra and M2 Comp seem slightly more impressive
@The Truth no. The Supra and the m2 did NOT use any semi slick. This kind of tire can give you at least 1 second per kilometer advantage as average. So....
Schade,dass bei 8.00 der N reinspringt ,gehen bestimmt 2 sekunden flöten dadurch...
Wie schnell war der Renault Megane R.S. schon wieder? Waren es nicht 7:43? Und das für etwas mehr wie
€ 45'000.- ? 😎
Falsch , Renault ist die runde mit einem 85000€ teurenTrophy R gefahren ( Carbon Felgen, Käfig usw). Werkszeiten sind mit den Zeiten von Sport Auto nicht zu vergleichen.Genau so wenig wie die Zeit vom Type R. Honda hat in einem Statement zugegeben ,dass das Fahrzeug nicht ganz der Serie entsprach.
Du sprichst hier vom normalen Megane RS , es ist kein Trophy (300PS) und der Trophy R ist nochmal ne ganz andere Nummer.
Pourquoi elle est si lente dans les virages ?
Fahrt mal mit dem Bmw M8 Competition eine hot lap auf dem Nürburgring
0:58 das sieht nicht gut aus Bordsteinkratzer das tut weh :)
Why, type R with only 306hp, 400nm finished in 7.43 while the 415hp 500nm a45s amg took 7.48..
Honda did some tweaking before the run, it’s basically invalid.
Please don't mix up factory times with the times of AMS. In the AMS the Type R did a time over 8 min (8:06) with the same driver.
Damn. Going flat out, no lift, while cutting those chicanes. No understeer at all! Makes me wonder if the a/cla45 are only fwd diring city driving and cruising.
Krass wenn man bedenkt ein M3 CSL hat fast die selbe Zeit vor 17 Jahren gefahren.
Ohne DSG, ohne Allrad und mit nur 360 Sauger PS.
1. Trofeo R
2. Geänderte Nordschleife mit neue Belag draug.
Die Zeiten sind NICHT zu vergleichen.
Der CSL hatte doch das smg Getriebe oder täusche ich mich?
@@rowbee3216 nur SMG.
Richtis SMG.
Aber ist natürlich auch nicht so schnell wie ein Doppelkupplungs Getriebe.
@@sercanalkcam3156 OK, hat sich so angehört als ob n CSL n Schalter sei.
Mit dem Carporn vorne weg deutlich runderes Format statt nur die schnelle Runde auf der Nordschleife. In Anlehnung an Fast Lap vielleicht noch ein paar Worte des Fahrers im Anschluss zum Auto und zur schnellen Runde auf der NOS und es gibt nix mehr zu ergänzen. :) Weiter so.
Zum A45S: Ein echter Traumwagen in der Hot Hatch Klasse. Die Zeit ist echt beeindruckend. Bezüglich der Reifenwahl bin ich aber auch eher skeptisch. M.W. ist der Trofeo R noch kompromissloser als der häufig bei VAG verwendete Cup 2. Ich kann mir kaum vorstellen, dass viele Kunden für ein 1,6 Tonnen Fahrzeug für knapp 80 k Euro diesen Reifen wählen werden. Es ist kein klassisches Track Day Car so dass die Zeit auf der NOS zwar beeindruckend und spannend zu sehen ist, aber für die Realität vermutlich wenig Relevanz hat. Dennoch großen Respekt an AMG. Der A45S ist ein tolles Auto geworden. Daumen hoch.
Fave ich wüsste zu gerne wo es diese Reifen zu kaufen gibt, ich habe schon einige Händler angesprochen, alle gaben mir die Auskunft: Nicht lieferbar. Ich fahre übrigens seit kurzen den A45S, war aber noch nicht auf dem Track damit...
Tyres: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R MO1... put on the original tyres and then do the same lap. Then we see the right time and not this fake time
Marketing factory laptimes are fake. This is reality. Tires are Mercedes Benz specific. Car is factory standard, no tune, not stripped interior...
Mercedes is really up to their games now..they are no more grannys and grandpas car..they can really compete with high end sports car brands nowadays.. good job Benz!
Amg
It's been like that for years now...
Der Innenraum geht für mich garnicht. Ist mit dem riesen Display viel zu überladen.
Tinkiwinkis RS man gewöhnt sich schnell dran. Für mich der beste innenraum in der klasse
@@timonxDlol ich habe schon drin gesessen im neuen A45 und mich wirklich unwohl gefühlt. Aber so hat jeder seinen Geschmack, wäre ja schlimm wenn es bei allen gleich wäre 😊
@@rene21071987 Klar ist es geschmackssache. Aber ich denke es ist auch eine Zeitfrage. Sitzt man kurz drin oder länger etc. Fands z.b. in der neuen E Klasse auch scheiße, dann hatten wir eine für längere Zeit und fands ganz gut, dann hab ich eine selbst konfigurierte gehabt und fand den innenraum perfekt, sodass ich nochmal eine e klasse genommen hatte.. Ist echt auch gewohnheitssache
@@timonxDlol gebe ich dir vollkommen recht, man gewöhnt sich an vieles. Für mich ist das einfach viel zu überladen, deshalb nicht meins. Ich mag es eher schlicht und analog 😊
@@rene21071987 klingt dumm aber ich finde gerade das daimler interieur noch relativ schlicht und wenigstens hat es noch knöpfe. Audi ist für mich momentan am schlimmsten was die menge an touchscreens etc angeht. BMW macht sich bei den neuen gut
Ich bin eigentlich echter mercdes Fan, ich hatte das Auto letzte Woche zum Probefahren da ich mir eigentlich den CLA 45S ab Oktober leasen wollte, aber nach dem Wochenende hab ich mir das nochmal überlegt. Vorneweg das Auto macht richtig Laune aber das nervigste und das hört man in diesem Video auch schon ist dieser grotten schlechte Lautsprecher Sound man hat nach außen kaum ein Geräusch alles was man hier hört ist künstlich es kommt zu 98% aus den Lautsprechern was man gerade in Sport+ sehr stark merkt. Ich fahre momentan nen CLA 250 mit umgebauter AGA und der liefert mehr Emotion als der AMG was echt traurig ist
Wenn du "Emotionen" haben möchtest würde ich mal die Autos aus einem anderen Jahrzehnt kaufen.
Love the Sport Auto Supertest! It really is the ultimate test. Mercedes did an excellent job with that baby AMG but the Corsa R tires definitely played a part in that record time! I would love to see the new Corvette C8 AND the new Cayman 4.0 GTS performing the Supertest! Thanks👍🏻👍🏻
The Truth They said that already, it was 0.8 sec. Those semi-slick tires can gain up to 1.5 sec in a 4 km track over a very good tire like the Michelin PS4. Considering the Nordschleife is roughly 20 km. We’re talking up to 7.5 sec total. That’s something. But I note that in every car using those tires or the Cup 2’s , like the Cayman GT4. But make no mistake, I love the new A45 S AMG. It’s only a fair comment!
Guys, comparing a test done by a professional driver and organized by a brand and another that is done by an Auto magazine is not really fair ... + there is a new official course on the Nürburgring since this year, ( before the test from Renault) with a complete lap which makes now 20.832 km (start and end of the lap on the start / finish line, start of T13). On this route, the time of the Megane is 7 minutes 45 seconds 389. They only gave the 7:40 to brag they have beaten the Civic. Finally, we are talking about a car stripped to the extreme which must be unlivable on a daily basis. Lastly, i'm pretty sure to pick a cute woman in the Merc , the other is just a Renault :D
This is cheating, trofeo R is about 1second faster than Cup2 per minute and 2 seconds faster than high performance summer tires per minute, so if A45S equipped with factory sport tires it would be around 15 seconds slower, which would be 8:03(minus the time loss caused by gearbox issue)
2 sec faster per min so yes it would ve 15 sec slower on normal tires.
All street legal Tires are allowed. AS Long AS you can buy Them AS an Option .
German Big Yeah I know, I am just saying if A45S uses similar tyre that everyone else uses, then it would be a slow car, you do get better lap-times with Trofeo R but these tyres are terrible in cold and wet conditions, also comfort, NVH and tread wear is bad. if the A45S can do the same lap time with P0 Corsa or PS4S then it’s really the king of the hatch backs, but claim the crown by fitting some tyres that are not really livable for everyday driving? What’s the point
Die Corvette C6 Z06 Zeit in 2008. Gut, die Z06 war dann noch mit hemdsärmeligen Runflats ausgestattet.
Wenn der airbag rauskommt feierabend bei der sitzposition
And now there is a Mini Almosen as fast as this on... I love the engineering progress of car industrys
7:55 gearbox 😂
Neutral 😂😂
Pseudo Mir fehlen einfach die Worte 😳. Diese Fahrzeug 🚗 ist ein reiner Blender. Und plötzlich darf sich Alles 🙈 AMG nennen.
If you watch the rs3 7m40 but still almost no tire squeel id buy the merc even if its slower
Tolles Auto!
Der Sound hat dank OPF leider nicht mehr viel mit AMG zu tun, was sehr schade ist.
SCT333 ein Vierzylinder hat leider nicht mehr viel mit AMG zu tun, aber was will man machen bei den Gesetzen..
Was will man machen bei der Klimaerwärmung...
Scheisshaufen Der OPF dient aber nicht dem Klimaschutz sondern damit weniger Feinstaub entsteht
@@gockelxxxxxl9584 Ja was macht denn Feinstaub?
Das Auto hat einfach mal 456PS und damit 8% mehr Leistung als angegeben. Ganz arm von Mercedes und warum wird es in der Videobeschreibung nicht erwähnt?
Seiko FK2R hat er nicht 421?? 🤔
Giuseppe. TV, ja in den Papieren stehen aber bei der Leistungsmessung 456 PS gedrückt..
So kid you see its not all about power and awd, as an example take the renault megane or honda civic
Civic 8:01
@@pokest225 official time 7:43 old A45 8:04
@@idiotsandwich6727 in this test civic 8:01 with cup2 tires. Old a45 doesn't matter anymore. Old fk2 civic was 8:15 in this test for comparison.
Honda Civic Type R (320 cv) 7.43,08. Renault Megane Trophy (300 cv) 7.40,10.
Again, manufacturer's laptime, not independent test like this, stop spreading misinformation by incomparable comparison
@@onehorsepower fastestlaps.com/models/renault-megane-rs-trophy-r
Again?
@@Soussmeboules wait for the test with this driver
I was expecting more than that to be honest.Audi TTRS mk3 did it in 7:48
The Megane Trophy R is 8 seconds quicker with 120bhp less. So the standard Trophy should be still as quick if not quicker still 🤔
Heck, a Type R is quicker too.
@@onehorsepower He speaks about the standard "RS Trophy" which makes 300 hp like the "RS Trophy-R" but with different setup and 130 kg more weight, and not the RS 280. And yes the regular Mégane 4 RS Trophy is easily sub 8.00 on Nordschleife, maybe somewhere around 7:45/7:50 while Trophy R is 7:40.
It is just minimaly slower than the Trophy-R but way cheaper. A colleague of mine bought it new at Renault Frankfurt for 35K.
This Mercedes has a lot more HP, but the chassis is not on the level of the Mégane and the Civic.
@@Soussmeboules no. The civic did 8:01 in this test. The trophy is slower. The trophy r still to be seen in this test.
Trophy r 7:55 now
@@pokest225 7.40 is the official time of the Mégane RS Trophy-R. Mercedes have to send their own driver, and see if they can do better.
This Mercedes tested by Sport Auto is on semi-slicks (Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R) while the Mégane tested by Sport Auto is on Sport Summer tires (Bridgestone Potenza S007 RS). This makes a huge difference. Now put the R.S. Trophy-R with semi slicks and you will see the difference though the Mégane has a lot less HP.
Mercedes benz 🤩🤤🔥💪😍❤️
All that power and tyres yet still slower than a Civic Type R
True KING
Type r 8:01 in this test with cup2 tires
@@pokest225 no it was not that time look it up numb nuts
@@04tsxpower 8:01 in this same test, with same driver, cup2 tires. Right and correct.
@@pokest225 funny times I have are quite different but whatever. Your talking something totally different then we are
Amazing car... i want it 🔥🔥🔥
Golf gti clubsport 7:49:21, almost this same fast, than new a45S
Megane RS Trophy R 7:40:10 🤔
7:57 in this test
@@charrierguillaume85 7:55 in this test
Irgendwie glaube ich, dass das Auto das keine zweite Runde in der Zeit geschafft hätte 🤔🧐
Da ist noch luft nach oben
was ist das für eine strecke der fahrer ist bombe das auto ist top
Not that impressive considering the Honda civic type R did it in 7:43 with 100 horsepower less. And its fwd...
Same test, civic 8:01
Äh ja... Alles richtig gemacht mit meinem Type R... Preis-Leistung *hust*
Denk ich mir bei mir auch.
Und als normaler touristenfahrer wird man einem a45s Fahrer damit schon die Hölle heiß machen, der Blick dürfte unbezahlbar sein, wenn er sich von einem auto ärgern lässt welches nur die Hälfte kostet lol. 😁😁😁
@@blackbee_v8 Keiner lässt sich von so einer Reisschüssel beeindrucken, weil es niemanden interessiert. Wie im Kindergarten hier: guck mal mein Auto ist schneller als deins...
He’s sat way too close to the steering wheel. If he crashes the air bag is going to go off in his chest winding him not the helmet
Is he driving with ESP off? Anyone knows?
Fehlerfrei war das nicht. Da geht noch mehr
Tja macht man nix wenn bei 180 die automatik versagt. Das getriebe überzeugt mich mal nicht so... Zu laff irgendwie beschissene schaltpunkte usw
Slow for a 420 hp hothatch with 500nm... Slower then the renaults, and the honda's and just as fast as the VW....
@V_ AP 7:57
Herşey güç deyildir şasi ve denge tecrübesi başka birşeydir. 300 hp megan ve 320 hp tpr 7. 40 lık tur zamanlaması ile bunu göstermiştir.
Semi slicks and still slower than the Type R and Megane.
Civic super test 8:01. Megane not timed yet.
8:00 ”Scheiße”
2.0 ın gücü 💪🏻
I would buy the Alfa Giulia QV and save the rest of the money to go shopping. 7:32 in tshirt and jeans.
Fast car for road but nothing else. Its to heavy 1625kg it has 120hp more then megane rs r and its slower by 8sec?
Wait for the sport auto lap with the megane
7:55 now for the megane.
Mach mal diesen Reifen auf nen 2003er M3 CSL gepaart mit nem aktuellen Fahrwerk... Wo ist der Fortschritt?
It handles very good
And those Trofeo R’s will be trashed...
Type R 7:43 :33 but still a pretty fast car!
Die Alfa Romeo Giulia schaffte die legendäre 20,832 Kilometer lange Rennstrecke in 7:32 Minuten.
@@haraldschon2485 hat ja auch Heckantrieb und viel mehr PS. Und ist ja in einer ganz anderen Klasse. Aber ist ein hammer Gerät.
@@onehorsepower
hahaha nice
@@onehorsepower still pretty impressive for an fwd car and less hp. 421 vs. 320hp
@@onehorsepower may i knw the source of this? I need it thanks
Das Getriebe muss bestimmt bald gewechselt werden 😂
Die Aufnahme ist vom 24.10.19 😂
Alfa romeo giulia Quadrifoglio is better in this track, the renault megane rs trophy r is better than this mercedes and the renault have less power.
Factory lap times vs journalist lap times
@@grasak1594 do you believe this car can do a better time than this..?? you may be right, I haven't thought about the pilot's ability, I don't know if he is a journalist or a pilot..
@@stefanodeberardinis Nope...But you made this comparisson 2 times wrong:
1. Comparing Alfa Giulia QV vs hatchback (Megane is closer to A45 S, but it's hardcore track hatchback with roll cages, no rear seats etc.)
2. It's better to compare factory lap times to factory lap times cuz every manufatcurer will put the best lap their car can do vs magazine lap time that may not always be in perfect conditions
The Alfa laptime was set by the manufacturer with a professional driver, unknown settings and not by a neutral sportscars journalist. The only neutral comparison was on the Sachsenring where the A45S was quicker than the QV by 2 sec. Apart from the fact that this two cars aren‘t rivals in the same category.
my comment simply wanted to refer to the title that highlighted the time to make clickbait title. The second part of the comment wanted to express how a 75,000-dollar Italian car with the value of a ferrari engine can do better and how a car with a best value for money ratio like the renault can destroy a car that also costs 25,000 dollars more .. the renault I think it costs about 55,000 euros.
What a filming angle lol
I'm surprised that with all the HP, it's not quicker than a Civic Type R. Seems to be grip limited with heavy understeer.
slower than civic type r and Megane RS TROPHY R
thats a shame.
Both of those had no rear seats, a/c, radio, and the civic had a roll cage fitted so they arent really comparable right?
@@brunobegic3841
FK8 TYPE R Nurburgring Record
320hp /400nm
Tyres:
The famed Lap Record in the FK8R's Nurburgring run was achieved on Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres, one of the best road tyres available off the shelves.
Roll Cage:
The entire internet had noticed and pointed out that the FK8R had been outfitted with a roll cage during its 7:4X Nurburgring run. So what was that about?
Hideki-San had then clarified that the roll cage were sitting on rubber mounts instead of being directly bolted or welded to the car's floor. So no part of the roll cage was integral to the FK8R's structural rigidity, thus not cheating in any way.
Rear seat is remain in the car, but no aircond.
@@fachannelpokciktapirfk8 And the speed that Honda did in their lap on Dottinger Hohe is 257km/h while Sport Auto managed 240km/h 😏
@@onehorsepower RS 280 is not trophy or trophy R.
@@Soussmeboules still not timed in this test.
Wow, taking Schwedenkreuz at more than 190kph!
Renault Megane RS Trophy R: 7:40,10!
Manufacturer lap. Wait for the real condition lap with same driver as this video.
After change and power upgrade 👍👌😂
Manual transmission wins against automatic.
@@meganers96 🙄 come on now
@@04tsxpower over 100 hp more and automatic. 8 seconds slower...
7.48 au Nur pour faire du 130 sur autoroute et 1/2/3 au feu rouge.
FASTER THAN M2 COMPETITION
Straight pipe it's even faster than the M4
Die Alfa Romeo Giulia schaffte die legendäre 20,832 Kilometer lange Rennstrecke in 7:32 Minuten.
M2 without semi slicks
Very fast hyper hatch !!!!!!
this car should have been at least 10 seconds faster on the nurburgring
Why? The driver also lost at least a couple of seconds when the gearbox has gone N for high temperature.
Check the realistic laptime of the other cars. They are 10 seconds slower.
Und der civic type R mit 100 PS wenig 7:43...
Und der Megane R.S trophy R mit nochmal weniger Leistung 7:40
Civic 8:01.
Megane 7:55.
Trofeo R auf A Klasse. Lol. Aber nicht in der Lage 20km hart gefahren zu sein. Neee, alles klar.
Vw Golf GTI Clubsport S, 7:47:00 🏆
7:57 in this test