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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Seeing bites is VITAL to catching fish, pretty obvious really! Jamie shows how thinking about your dropper shot can catch you a shed load more fish!
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  • @Crustysmith
    @Crustysmith 2 года назад +11

    Every generation thinks it invented the wheel. One of my most important fishing lessons over thirty years ago was Dave Harrell proclaiming that the last shot on the line MUST have an effect on the float. It was all river fishing then and I think Dave said he had learnt this from Kevin Ashurst, who had been taught by his dad Benny. The problem is that , as talented as they are, these ‘commercial anglers' don’t have a background on rivers, canals, and rock hard natural venues. Their challenge comes from how many and how quickly they can catch fish from a venue stuffed full with them. The lesson Jamie has just given has been learnt over the years by a multitude of anglers just trying to get a bite. I have been putting shot on my hooklength for more years than either of these young men have been alive. The risk of line breakage is so minimal, if the shot is soft and correctly applied, and I can honestly say I have never had any trouble with losing fish as a consequence. And on canals, with half pound hooklengths and one pound mainline, in winter I have had a 'dust shot' (as we used to call them) just an inch from the hook. The hook was a size 30 and we were catching microscopic gudgeon on bloodworm. Those exact same methods scale up for big fish too.
    Yes, ..... it’s true, hooks do go down to a size 30 but it takes a really talented (patient) angler to tie one and a young angler with good eyesight to even see them. Oh the good old days!

  • @danielpardoe2554
    @danielpardoe2554 2 года назад +3

    I heard Matt Hayes say this and called it a tell tail shot! To see bites!!! Great vid once again lads. 👌✌

  • @jamsams
    @jamsams 2 года назад +4

    I think it'll be Matrix.
    "WE'RE sorted on that"... massive clue from Jamie there.

  • @johnlewis-mcginn1016
    @johnlewis-mcginn1016 2 года назад +1

    Like this tips video, learnt so much thank you Jamie /Andy👍
    Please keep them coming and thank you.

  • @michaelsmith9408
    @michaelsmith9408 2 года назад +2

    Never fish a hook link. The tell tale shot as Billy Lane used to call it should be positioned according to bite indication. I have put a no 8 as close as 2 inches from the hook for Crucian fishing.

  • @matthewmills8353
    @matthewmills8353 2 года назад +4

    Should do a supplementary video to accompany these types of explanations using a clear tank, would be mega

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад +4

      We’re having talks to sort some underwater stuff so watch this space 😍

    • @nickpeat1209
      @nickpeat1209 2 года назад +1

      Would be great to see underwater shotting patterns in a tank, and the different effects laying it in can have on the presentation of the 'cerve'🤣🤣

  • @coleuk1436
    @coleuk1436 2 года назад +3

    Come on the dogs 😂 Andy is class

  • @the72inc73
    @the72inc73 2 года назад +5

    Jamie would need to sit in a darkened room if he saw my shotting patterns and moving of shot up and down haha

  • @cameronsteward7226
    @cameronsteward7226 2 года назад +6

    Jamie says you will be able to get some pre tied hooklengths soon to Andy means that he must be going to matrix or guru

    • @MagicManFan
      @MagicManFan 2 года назад +1

      Or Preston. Or Drennan. I reckon Guru though

    • @georgehealy8350
      @georgehealy8350 2 года назад

      @@MagicManFan my guess is Guru also

    • @swaz1978
      @swaz1978 2 года назад

      Preston done deal

  • @nutsonfishing5818
    @nutsonfishing5818 2 года назад +1

    Great vid .right would use this on a commercial or a canal. I going to try on a deep river on a match tomorrow lol both the way congratulations to Andy on the new signing

  • @stevehiggins6540
    @stevehiggins6540 2 года назад

    Thanks lads....makes sense to me and something I will be trying out in my practise sessions...and, of course, on matches!

  • @ecco2366
    @ecco2366 2 года назад +2

    This is why I love pole fishing for skimmers and bream. The refinement

  • @dafadd1929
    @dafadd1929 Год назад

    Richard Walker in his Angling Times column used to say, that the most important shot was the one nearest the hook. He also said that this could also be the total weight required for loading the float( didnt have pole floats as we know them now! Mainly various bird quills)

  • @markhoulding1938
    @markhoulding1938 2 года назад +1

    Laurel & Hardy have got nowt on you two lol 😂 love the the vids lads 👍

  • @philipgoodall4666
    @philipgoodall4666 2 года назад +2

    My dad always put shot on his hooklength, would Stotz or Styl be better, cos you can move them around with no damage

  • @stephenpyner4156
    @stephenpyner4156 2 года назад

    Great video lads, I have never thought about putting shot on my hooklength before when making pole rigs but will give it a try next time I make some

  • @richardlinnell3120
    @richardlinnell3120 2 года назад

    Very informative again guys thank you.

  • @Northstar-Media
    @Northstar-Media 7 месяцев назад

    When fishing fine for roach, etc . I dont like to use loop to loop. I like to tie my hook length to my main line. i think you get better presentation & smoother fall on your hook bait.

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  7 месяцев назад +1

      Bob Nudd does similar, certainly a neat way of doing, just a bit more faffy when it comes to changing hook lengths which is why Jamie sticks to the loop to loop.
      Especially when you're at venues with carp, the ability to change hook lengths is important.

  • @strengthcoachlondon
    @strengthcoachlondon 2 года назад +2

    I've always wondered why people wouldn't put shot on an 0.11 or 0.13 hook length when they'll happily do it if that's their main line.

  • @davidlee8999
    @davidlee8999 2 года назад

    I use a 5" hook length on the canal with a shot 3" from the hook nearly all year

  • @simonadams5533
    @simonadams5533 2 года назад

    Fantastic information lads 10 years of working it out in 10 minutes 👏 👍

  • @scottandrewjohnmiddleton8676
    @scottandrewjohnmiddleton8676 2 года назад

    I've definitely found that different positions of my droppers make big differences depending on what fish I'm targeting and also in different depths too

  • @shanemullins5303
    @shanemullins5303 Год назад

    Just a quick one i allways do better when i lay on an inch to 2 inch on bottom no matter where i fish..am from doncaster..fished Hayfields many times and its the only way it works for me..when i try your way(basically different no a fence
    use are the best).
    I just find it harder to catch????

  • @scottessery100
    @scottessery100 2 года назад

    Love how j coaches Andy 😂👍🏽

  • @ihcfn
    @ihcfn 2 года назад

    Cheers guys, does make sense!

  • @steveshipley8032
    @steveshipley8032 2 года назад

    Ohhh jamie dropping the new sponsor bomb🤣

  • @leeemery9796
    @leeemery9796 2 года назад +1

    The old tell tale shot if you was brought up float fishing 🎣

  • @rupertroberts3260
    @rupertroberts3260 2 года назад

    thanks 👍

  • @philnotley5138
    @philnotley5138 2 года назад

    I have to use tiny stotz I cannot see tiny shot anymore to get it on the line but I guess it still work

  • @rp007k9
    @rp007k9 2 года назад

    Giving all the best tips away. Lol. I've used this since 1986

  • @tonyvickerstaff269
    @tonyvickerstaff269 2 года назад

    This is aimed at Andy primarily but you both could answer maybe.
    Now we all know you've moved to Preston can I ask how easy it for you to change your fishing tackle and be comfortable using it all.
    I have rods that I'm well happy with but changing gear must take some getting used to.

  • @FishingMadDad
    @FishingMadDad 2 года назад

    Ahhhhh my head is battered.. 😂

  • @kevhood2509
    @kevhood2509 2 года назад

    Jamie mentions talking to Matt Godfrey helps explain. What was this on as I have looked for it but cannot find it.
    I remember fishing RiverWear at Chester le street around 40 years ago and fishing with a no8 on 1 1/2lb hooklength.

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад

      It was on the live Q and A we did with Matt for the channel members 👍🏻

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/AVlnmhsBKXE/видео.html

    • @kevhood2509
      @kevhood2509 2 года назад

      Thank you so much for the reply. Keep on producing these brilliant informative videos, cheers

  • @johnsingleton462
    @johnsingleton462 2 года назад

    Where do get those boots from guys

  • @alanbattersby9186
    @alanbattersby9186 2 года назад

    Awesome gents

  • @fredwoodhouse2936
    @fredwoodhouse2936 2 года назад

    Does Jamie not worry about damaging the hooklength when putting shot on there?

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад +1

      That’s why he will never move it on the hooklength. But leaving it in position doesn’t seem to be an issue 👍🏻

  • @karlrance7669
    @karlrance7669 2 года назад +1

    Big Hints Andy may is off to !!!???? Matrix ?????

  • @alanmeasures8337
    @alanmeasures8337 2 года назад

    Please do some tank test videos.

  • @kevinbeardsworth3756
    @kevinbeardsworth3756 2 года назад

    At the end Jamie saying Andy will be able to get some pre tide hooklenths? Does that mean he’s moving away from map? Maybe?

    • @bryanhutchison9982
      @bryanhutchison9982 2 года назад +2

      He is moving from MAP but everyone is speculating as to where he’s going. I for one wish him all the best for the future

  • @mickward77
    @mickward77 2 года назад

    Been doing that before commercials appeared 🤪

  • @allanwithers8509
    @allanwithers8509 2 года назад

    Thinking fisherman at his best.

  • @iandocksey9792
    @iandocksey9792 2 года назад

    Why would you not use a stot/cube on your hooklength? So you can move it.

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад +3

      Even stotz on a really light 0.08 or 0.10mm hooklength you wouldn't really want to be sliding them around. It only takes a few seconds to change a hooklength so not worth the risk in a match situation.

    • @iandocksey9792
      @iandocksey9792 2 года назад

      @@WinningWays good to know your reasoning. Thanks

  • @liammorris5218
    @liammorris5218 2 года назад

    What type of shot do you use?

  • @DavidSmith-jm3xr
    @DavidSmith-jm3xr 2 года назад

    GO ON THE DOGS!

  • @davebrownjnr8410
    @davebrownjnr8410 2 года назад

    Monging for silvers are we !!!

  • @bryanhutchison9982
    @bryanhutchison9982 2 года назад

    Would putting a heavier shot on the hooklength not ruin the sexy fall of the cuuuuurve

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад +1

      Always a balancing act and working out on the day which is best, natural fall whilst sacrificing some bite indication or more positive with better indication.

  • @rickyvogel
    @rickyvogel 2 года назад

    Sorted pre tied hooklength…. From matrix maybe?🧐 Surely that’s who andy is going to! Changing the game these 2. Boss!!

  • @garryhodgson2614
    @garryhodgson2614 2 года назад

    Would you not find that putting shot so close to your hook that the fish would go for your shot aswell as your bait giving a false bite?

  • @pipins3616
    @pipins3616 2 года назад

    Done it for 50 years

  • @adambiggadike2083
    @adambiggadike2083 2 года назад

    I still don’t understand

  • @matchingfishingandmore3309
    @matchingfishingandmore3309 2 года назад

    Matrix????

  • @ahenneka
    @ahenneka 2 года назад +1

    Bettter pay attention when Jamie is giving a lecture, just saying !

  • @mickbrooks8114
    @mickbrooks8114 2 года назад

    Andy's face kid at Xmas pre tied hooklenths yes please

  • @robertmoon993
    @robertmoon993 2 года назад

    Why bite off the hook length and put a new one on with shot in different place, why not take shot off and put another shot on in a different place.

  • @chrisralphs6887
    @chrisralphs6887 2 года назад

    Come on Andy are you going to matrix

  • @ianhamilton2669
    @ianhamilton2669 2 года назад

    They called tell tale shot used um since a kid nothing new 😐

  • @briandion9894
    @briandion9894 2 года назад

    Come on let’s find something new and not reinventing to many anglers never really think about what’s happening with there set up.shooting patterns are the first lesson you learn about when you start fishing. If you don’t know about shorting a float you will never be any good. How big your your drop shot is can depend on how thick the tip of the float is and how much the float tip is above the surface and how the fish are taking the bait at that time. As that can change many times

    • @WinningWays
      @WinningWays  2 года назад +2

      Who taught you Brian? Someone who already went fishing and knew what they were doing.
      So what if like a lot of people you’re starting out and don’t have anyone in your family or know anyone who goes fishing and you’re having to teach yourself through magazines or RUclips.
      We have all sorts of anglers watching our videos, some have yet to even catch a fish, some are anglers you’d class as some of the best in the country.
      So if it’s a subject you feel is ‘basic’ then don’t watch, but there are thousands of others who find them helpful.

    • @briandion9894
      @briandion9894 2 года назад

      @@WinningWays 74years old 65 years fishing 55 years club and open match fishing still going strong self taught learnt by understanding