Um…is free agency over with yet? Maybe we should wait and see how the next few days play out? If Zeke is still on the opening day roster then we can talk.
This is fucking awful. I have no idea wtf the executive and front office are doing. All we have done is lose players. KCP, Bruce Brown and more. We have the best player in the world in his prime we need to be BUILDING a new championship team. Instead they just keep losing players and shrugging. Explain these insane fucking decisions to the fan base. They are doing nothing to improve. It’s so frustrating.
Not only that there is nothing left in the market. Everybody already made their move except Denver.😅😅😅 zeke still in the roster, no guard has been added, scorer of the bench.
Problem is that anyone who comes and plays with Jokic looks way better then they worth. Teams then overpay thinking they will play like that in their teams which never is the case and Denver is left out of market and having to find fringe players and make them stars. We can't be mad but with 3 max contracts we can''t get depth. We were lucky that everything fell into place with everybody plus Bruce Brown. You take one pieace out and it all crashes. We need 2 max + depth or again get lucky with players like BB + KCP not being overpaye and good rookies.
If he makes everyone better why is it hard. Kcp was a champion before Denver. He made Aaron Gordon worse. Boogie, hartenstein, Jerami grant, all worse with jokic.
He made AG way complete player, all others did not stay long enough. As for KCP, yes he was on championship team but he was not getting paid. Now he is because of stats with Jokic.
Denver lost Bruce Brown, Jeff Green, KCP. We sign unplayable players Jackson and Nanji. We gave 3 picks to wave Jackson. We do not know what to do with Nanj and his ``big`` contract.. We dont have enough ball handlers in our team. Murray probably will not play 82 games. And he is combo guard not PG. 2023 title run was 80% Conelly credit. Booth had only 2 good moves as GM. Draft CB and trade Barton/Morris. But 30-40 milions for Zeke Nanji? Boot is very very close to threshold. Jokic has 29-30 years. Last year we were 1 bench player close to title. You can not develop 6 (six) young players if you are chasing title. Picket, Tyson, Strawther, Braun, Watson, Holmes. I do not like what Booth doing.
@@razkable but he was playable in the play-off and actually and additional big body for defense if match up required it and he had confidence to hit that one important 3, even after missing few and not shooting great overall
Those two are wrong, no one is mad about KCP leaving everyone is mad because no one else might be coming, this is not a team that can win a championship. Would rather see MPJ trade than KCP leave, but let's see how the roster gonna look like coming into the season.
😂 starter who struggles to score more than 6 points. Then people with low bball IQ like u who likes to sugarcoat the fk out of it by saying “ he’s a role player” not what i saw all year last year buddy. Couldn’t play solid defense. Couldn’t give u 10 points as a starter. So wtf does he do? Benchwarmer is wtf he was
As long we have our core of Jokic, Murray, AG, and MPJ, the Nuggets are contenders. They're an automatic playoff team just because of those 4. Jokic alone took AG and MPJ to the playoffs with far inferior roster than the one we have at this very moment. Losing KCP doesn't mean we aren't contenders anymore. Now, championship contenders, that's a different story. The rest depends on the bench depth and how we can improve from the lost pieces.
The GM has lost his mind, he thinks it's about making smart moves, not overpaying players, getting the value...sadly two spots just got worse and we lost one of our defensive strenghts...CB is worse than, KCP and I have no cofidence that whoever will replace CB will be better than him...this is criminal, any other superstar would ask out...GM is lucky that he has Jokic, hope he overpays Murray...at least talking about Jokic place in basketball history will be a niche thing, instead of him being in GOAT convos...
@@mcap8396 I have no other information then what DNVR said...they said it's not a Kroenke problem, of course Kroenke's directly employ Booth so he could be easily covering for them if was asked to do so...
@@freddie5ive no, it's he trend of making your team worse for 2 seasons straight, every super star in the NBA is demanding their team to get better, else they leave, because they are indeed 1/2 the value of the whole franchise
@@jvwilli7 Say what you want, bro. KCP swung so many important games through clutch shooting, jumping passing lanes, reach around steals, following his mark through screens like a ghost … I’m too depressed to argue. So, say what you say - we just got worse while our competitors are getting better. And we didn’t have it last year.
Denver Nuggets are playing dirty game of selling Jokic championship stories while in reality they are MILLKING Jokic prime for player development and selling new and old players for more money then they worth (because Jok make them look better then they are).Jokic manager or somebody need to explain this to him or his carrier is over. Also if Russ is coming to play in DN i am stop watching for sure. Free JOKIC
BAD trip KCP left Denver because GM Calvin Booth is Stingy and is Wasting Jokic's Prime by not putting enough role players that fit his weakness on Defense and Maximize his DHO game 😤 #FireBooth #KronkeMakeItHappen #BuildOnJokicPrime do not waste every season of not improving
Joker should leave this franchise that doesn’t do much to surround him with good pieces to give him the chance to win multiple titles that he is capable of for the next 2-3 years!
I’ve been hammering for two years Mike needs to go because of his contract. Instead of fans being mad at Booth or Josh maybe their anger should be directed at that contract & Tim Connelly for giving it to him & how it’s now strangling the Nuggets.
still we have 1 less competent player, they are not bringing anybody close to KCP, so last season DEN was shallow, so now you substract one more player....what do you get, shallow team even shallower
@@UraStryoung dudes improve. Watson is prime for a leap. Straw there has lots of potential and we all expect to see him playing better. Pickett Tyson can see the court more this year and who knows? Also Nuggs might have a solid backup PF with Holmes
Russell Westbrook is going to be on his best behavior this year. His agent asked around and found nobody was excited to give him a multi-year contract as a free agent so he opted into his $4m 1 year contract to get some guaranteed money. This is a golden opportunity to look good playing next to Jokic (like everybody does) and then next year he can get a multi-year contract as a FA.
Sky is not falling, it's just that DEN relevance window has limited amount of time left, Jokic gets old, it's over. Life as well as NBA is game of percentages. And percentages for DEN to win are non 0%, but got significantly lower. No other contender would do this. If they did, they star would be out of the door already.
I mean if they don't win champ this season or next season, Booth should be fired together with coach. So someone will need to rebuild this team from the ground up.
The CBA is intended to break up dyanstic rosters. You get more fan bases with a chance to win and it allows the NBA not to be reliant on only big market teams. They essentially get more people excited for their team from more places and expand viewership. I think the CBA is also a marketing tool to boost ratings. That's a pretty wild theory, but it comes off like that a little. It bothers me because it feels like the obtuse rules and restrictions are so controlling and micro-managed that it ends up punitively punishing a team for success. Your team wins a championship and the market value of each player rises dramatically. It's especially infuriating that they changed the CBA after we built our roster. Thanks Silver, you must hate the Nuggets. Not that it's personal, but if feels like it right now.. It also does seem like the media is loathe to deal with a Denver dynasty. I'm feeling a little shaken up about next year.
he's not a key, but is this team better or worse without him?...it's worse in two spots, KCP spot and whoever replaces CB...I don't see DEN having any addition better than Holiday level players
@@UraStr i understand that two years ago KCP was a key to us winning a championship. How’d it work out last year? And maybe, just MAYBE we can trust the front office may know more about what they’re doing and about the players than anyone in the comments or in the media does…? I dunno, I’m choosing to love the team I root for and the the guys that make it up. KCP could’ve stayed HE chose to make overall $7m more over three years….in Orlando….🤷🏼♂️
@@jvwilli7 what is it with you and keys? :D ...he's not a key, the team just got worse in the middle of 1 of possibly 2 champions windows you get per century...there might not be a championship team in DEN during your lifetime...do you realize that. That's why it's not a time to get worse, it's time to hold on.
@@jvwilli7they’re missing the plot. We shouldn’t pity ourselves or our team, we should pity KCP who now has to spend a majority of the next few years in Orlando with the DeVos family, Jonathan Isaac, and Mickey Mouse with an expired copyright. Nuggets are going to be fine
@CaneOdPchinje 17 minutes ago (edited) Of course Nuggets are failing Jokic. Completely. Thing is - Kroenke's are putting Nuggets on the market, and the talks are already happening. So Kroenke's are trying to control the cost as much as possible. That's the bottom line - Kroenke's are selling Nuggets and trying to squeeze every dime out of the deal. F*k Jokic, F*k the team - Kroenke's $s are at stake. Thing is - Booth is IN on the deal too... Probably got a "sweetener" from Kroenke's to sit tight, don't rock the boat and keep his dumb mouth shut. Big money is at stake. Malone is under NDA so he (even though he's furious) can't say shi* either. It's kinda funny that a) Nuggets fans didn't figure this out, and b) that Kroenke's think they will be able to pull this off unnoticed. :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) It was kinda obvious :))))) Couple of weeks ago: Josh Kroenke: “When Nikola Jokic is on your roster, you're going for it. We have the best player in the world. We have a responsibility to him to try and go for it.” Calvin Booth: "Im the steward of Jokic's prime" :))))))))))))))))))) Two weeks later - Nuggets don't even have a roster :))))))) Not to mention that their best hope left is Russ Westbrook :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) (and Russ is not an idiot and he'll tell them to f* off) :))))))))))))))))) But - no tax, no cost, net profit untouched. Kroenkes and Booth :)))))))) LIARS. Dirt cheap, shameless LIARS. One little thing though - I'm not sure Kroenkes are counting on Jokic busting this "deal" wide open. By just DEMANDING THE TRADE. The "valuation" of Jokicless Nuggets will be utter doodoo. I can only imagine the horror :)))))))) I'm so looking forward to see this happening. Kroenkes getting stuck with this pile of poopoo and Jokic doing the "wave and smile" thingy. Dumb, cheap, greedy, dishonest Kroenkes. BTW - Booth is now in Europe - he's NOT in US, even though it's the 11th hour of the FA... He's in EUROPE. Why? He's there to APPEASE Jokic - to give him some BS story in hope that Jokic will not fuck up Kroenke's little scheme. The idea is - appease Jokic, get him to do some public BS with Booth (interview, video, appearance, photo... anything) - like "nuggets GM is supporting Jokic and Serbia in the Olympics, even though it's critical time for the Nuggets"... a "grand gesture" to make sure he doesn't blow this deal up. What a pathetic bunch of cigani. But, Raznatovic is way ahead of these bozos. There won't be any "meets" any "photos" or any any.,.. Jokic will simply IGNORE and AVOID Booth like he would avoid an infected dog. And there will be "Jokic Demands a trade" news coming in the next week or so. And that will destroy Kroenke's calculation. F*k you Kroenkes.
Look take it easy guys. Braun will slide into his position. Westbrook is a trip dub threat off the bench. Jokic is pushing for westbrook. I know Jokic doesnt know basketball like a youtube comments section. They let him leave because of Braun and KCP is cool and all but we didnt win a championship because of him. D A Ron gives us a big who can guard all 5. catching lobs from Joker and westbrook will give our 6th man pop. My guess Braun chips in 15ppg 7.5 rpg and 4apg shoots 41% from 3pt. Just chill its going to be ok!
Julian Strawther is another guy who believes defense is someone else’s job….. And why should Malone play Strawther, Pickett, etc. if they don’t make a positive impact in the minutes they are given. Same pattern as with Nnaji….
Too many Denver fans blackpilling right now. Bunch of spoiled drama llamas. You act like we just lost Joker. 😂 KCP was mostly great, yes, but they have guys like CB & Jules who can now step up & show what they have. Jules in particular flashed talent last year for the few games he got, even defensively. This CBA punishes teams like Denver who try to keep a core together. It’s forced socialism. Forced parity. It is what it is. Booth may not be perfect but don’t blame him for what the owners ALL signed off on.
I’ll add that if you signed KCP this year you 💯 lose Aaron Gordon next year. That’s fact. And ask yourself: which player is more important? KCP literally disappeared against Ant in the playoffs & got manhandled by him. CB did much better. Get a grip Denver fans.
We already had a tough time scoring and now C B is going to take over give us a break porter fades in big playoffs games this owner is satisfied with one Ring
I think what could really make Westbrook be a. nice fit is to be the main piece of the bench lineup in terms of scoring. I think he has been in really awkward spots for his play style in the LA teams
Westbrook is also a beast in transition and running fastbreaks which fits the playing style of our 2nd unit of Strawther, Watson, and Holmes. The bench needs to play faster in general and capitalize on their athleticism. I think Westbrook can helps with that. That should be our bench identity. He's also a terrific passer and rebounder. He also hustles like crazy. That's the energy that has been missing ever since we lost Bruce Brown. As long as Westbrook is not playing iso ball or used as a spot up shooter, I actually think he would fit pretty well with the bench. Yea, he's definitely got to stop taking so many of those awkward mid-range shots. Those are momentum killers.
Lads 1 crazy news : Isaiah Hartenstein will leave the New York Knicks to sign a three-year, $87 million deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. I mean WTF! Hartenstein 30mil per season! This is crazy!
@@nickchillwind yea we know. We aint casual😅 but its not like he cant improve it. His defense is good, good finisher at the rim. What he lacks is his 3pts shooting. He needs to be at 38-40% with atleast 300 3PA.
I never love Westbrook... I don't like player's that are like cow's who give you 50L of milk and than kick the bucket and waste everything! Something like WBurton was or similar as J Murray do sometimes or last playoff to be exact! But...in this moment and with all that happened,it would not be the worst thing and Denver definitely need player with skills that Russ have! So many it's not that bad to try that at least one year! Jokić can definitely play with him and that could look grate...i mean,we don't have to much to lose in this situation.
If CB can work on his offensive game. That would be great.. I do love CB ITS just, Denver has to upgrade their bench. It’s pretty cut and dry. We need a backup C. Not named Deandre. And a backup PG to run the bench… i mean. Am i wrong? Please tell me if i am… If someone is more basketball educated. Plz educate me, humbly
Lol...without KCP and net zero as the replacement, Denver will be a play in team next season...count on it. And does anyone in their right mind think garbage murray is worth 50 million a year?
I have no issue with braun taking over kcp's role. He comes off the bench and makes plays consistently. I'm just concern how CB can play down the stretch after playing an entire game. Hopefully he has the stamina like kcp and can stay consistent down the stretch.
I understand the concern about the second apron restrictions but this is the best window in franchise history and parity is all over the league this is the time to go for it. Keep the best starting 5 together it’s pretty simple
Can we PLEASE stop being such babies about the Nuggets. WE HAVE THE BEST PLAYER ON THE PLANET AND 4 out of the 5 starters we WON A FUCKING CHAMPIONSHIP WITH!!!! And maybe, just MAYBE KCP is NOT the player he WAS.
Maybe just maybe it was a fluke run and Murray isn't that good or consistent. Mpj chokes too much and Gordon doesn't know what to do off ball like Draymond. Not to mention everyone else improved while they kept falling backwards
It's clear Calvin Booth was planning this for a long time, moving Christian Braun into the starting lineup to maintain salary cap flexibility despite the 3 max contracts. It had nothing to do with KCP performance in the playoffs. I think he's pre-positioning himself to let Aaron Gordon walk at the end of 25-26 season when his contract expires and he gets a max extension; and then they move Daron Holmes into the starting lineup. He loves his draft picks and thinks the right idea is to develop and rely on them; even though that is wasting Jokic prime years! Jokic, Murray and MPJ are the 3 key pieces they will keep long-term. I think KCP was more valuable than MPJ, but they couldn't move MPJ's contract anyway.
Murray's health along with his and MPJs consistency, long betting them on maxes over keeping Gordan next to Jokic..... I'm ready for Booth to get fired now...
Half of Jokic's touchdown passes were completed by KCP, the CB is extremely bad in the fast counter attack where we are 2 on 1, even 1 on 1. The completion rate of the CB near the hoop is 0, the bright spot is the dunk on Gobert with his left hand - a regular part of the season. As I wrote earlier, Denver will be at 44.45 wins, maybe even less. This with KCP, the whole locker room will suffer, Denver will not bring anyone more, that's obvious.
I don't think Nuggets lose anything on the defensive side. I even think we may even be better on that side. But on offense I think we are also significantly weaker. Biggest issue for T-Rex Braun is his shooting. Spacing will be an issue in playoffs. AG is already not guarded on the perimeter, having another player that can be ignored by defenses is too much. Also, hopefully Braun defense isn't a mirage, which may be the case for players going from bench and being a surprise defender into starting role player where attackers are more familiar with him.
Let's be honest man. KCP ain't worth 4 more mill than Malik Monk. Malik took less to stay in the place he likes. KCP money chased. He's made a 119 mill in his career. I'm not really gonna be that sad. Glad he came along for the Championship. But to screw our team for the future to keep him, not worth it. You wanna lose AG for KCP? Hell no.... KCP defense was nice. But guys he only averaged 10 points a game....thats what Reggie did. Man i will miss those 3pt shots. But in the long run this is right decision. I have second guessed the Kroenkes before. But we all know. The dudes know how to win.
Learn empathy, I swear they should start teaching this in school, imagine yourself getting offered 30 million dollars to stay at home, and 60 million dollars to move somewhere for 3 years...every human that didn't just fall on his head should move away and get the additional 30
Thank you! Finally a fan who has a reasonable response. AG is immensely more valuable & if they resigned KCP AG would have been gone. That’s a fact. KCP also disappeared against Ant in the playoffs; CB played MUCH better against him. Denver fans need to calm down.
KCP got torched by Dbook who takes jump shots and he just hit them and then he didn't that's called variance, if we are basing stuff on what happened against MIN, Murray should get the minimum contract...
I will miss him, but he was too inconsistent on D and offense. We have too much talent on this team to be worried about KCP leaving. Good riddance. Next man up mentality is weak with the DNVR guys. Orlando Overpayed, and KCP knows he has like one more good year left, so he needs to secure the bag. The biggest part has to be on Malone playing the younger guys he already stunned Zekes development, they need to go through painful progression. Malone might as well be Tom Thibbedue 2.0 the way he runs the starters into the ground.
I agree. Losing KCP sucks, but he would have to be replaced eventually. I do admit it's at least 1 year sooner than I would hope but it's bound to happen due to the CBA and having to rely on rookie scale/cheaper contracts. Not to mention, KCP is the oldest and most expendable player out of the starting 5. This is also one of the reasons Booth drafted Christian Braun, to prepare him to take over the starting shooting guard spot when the time comes. Overall, KCP is the 2 way player that Denver needs and as the team looks right now, it got worse. However, CB is taller, stronger, and more athletic than KCP. He's more equipped to guarding bigger guards and forward which is the trajectory of where most teams are heading now. Of course, you still have the Curry, Kyrie, Fox, and Ja Morant of the world who are shifty and too fast for most defenders to guard and stop completely. You can't have best of both worlds. You can only try to take away a part of their game and make them uncomfortable. And I believe CB is a more versatile defender than KCP at doing that. CB is also a better rebounder which helps on both ends of the floor. The only problem with CB is his shooting. It's unproven whether or not he can shoot at a high level consistently. Teams are gonna dare him to shoot and so perhaps the offensive game plan should also change with him being on the floor like maybe he can drive more and just attack the basket. The biggest problem is the bench. With Justin Holiday most likely not coming back, Malone got to start playing the young guys more seriously specifically Watson, Strawther, and Holmes. I really wish that Zeke could have worked out in Denver. He had all the making of a modern big at PF/C but everything changed when the team decided to play him exclusively at backup center position. That screwed over his development on offense along with his confidence. On top of that, the team changed his jumpshot form for no reason when it was working perfectly before. It might be a bit slower, but why mess with it if there was no sign of him struggling to find his shots. Zeke was a near 40% 3 pt shooter before everything went downhill. This is the classic case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Right now, the bench depth will determine how far the team can go in the playoffs. We still need a quality backup PG and center. That's a bigger concern for me than losing KCP.
Why does LeBron only get blamed for not picking Jokic in All Star game not the other team captain? I know it’s bc it’s LeBron (Adam has a Wade & Kobe USA jersey so that makes sense he wouldn’t be biggest LeBron fan…along with the fact he’s been on the hated lakers the last 6yrs), but I never hear anyone else mention the other captain who didn’t pick him.😅😆😅. That doesn’t mean LeBron didn’t know Jokic wasn’t one of the best centers/players ever, he’s just not an All Star game player which means absolutely nothing at the end of the day as it’s a meaningless scrimmage with dunks and crazy 3s. LeBron has one of the best IQs for his sport as any athlete in any sport ever. I assure you he knows how ILLmatic God tier Jokic is and has for AT least 5yrs, but especially since 2020-21. Jokic & LeBron both know their IQs are among GOAT in NBA history with Magic Bird MJ Big O Jerry West Nash Luka Duncan Kareem Russell etc etc. Losing KCP hurts, but I like CB in starting lineup and Westbrook at only 4 mill per year off bench in Reggie Jackson mins. What hurts Nuggets was 2023 draft with 3 picks may of had 3/3 misses with Trayce Jackson Davis, GG Jackson, Leonard Miller, Toumani Camara all look to be better. It’s not easy to draft late 1st to mid 2nd, but when guys fall who are projected to be 20-28 are there you then it’s more on you to pass on them and “reach” on guys. It’s still too early to say for sure. 1 or 2 of those guys need to hit as at least role players (include Holmes too who I like better and he was at least projected in the 20-28 range).
The only picks I'm skeptical of Calvin Booth so far have been Pickett and Tyson just because 1) We have never really seen them play last season. 2) Both aren't the quickest guys in terms of lateral movement and ability to guard multiple positions so I feel like they both are still considered "project" players. 3) I feel like Calvin Booth did reached for these 2 players when he didn't have to. And was it really necessary to add 2 more rookies in the 2nd round when in reality 2nd round draft picks rarely work out and they take more time to develop. Hopefully they work but personally I would rather trade them because we still have 3 other young players to develop in Watson, Strawther, and Holmes coming off the bench.
Trapped by giving up draft picks for guys we didn’t use. McGee, Bryant, that one SG guy… all the seconds this year. Our GMs have squandered so many assets it’s nuts
Looking back a sign and trade for Caruso might have been the best deal Denver could have done maybe include Orlando in the deal Denver get Caruso Orlando get KCP Bulls get Issac or Suggs
No, they can not win without KCP and with this bench. This is the third big piece they have lost besides Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. It looks like they are in development mode and not "win now" mode. They suck in trades.
Our GM continues to be the reincarnation of Jerry Krause, tearing down a championship roster just to build with his guys only to prove how much of a genius he is🙄 prepare to be known as a fluke champion, which I already felt.
Jokić will have to rise his 3p % to the level it was in 2023 and everything will be ok. As long as he is not tired, he will fill the gap for CB shooting.
KCP was overrated. Nuggets were desperately trying to sell him as an all NBA defender calling him “first team” as his nickname lol. What all defense team did he make again? CB just as good of a defender
@@nickchillwind I’d like to see more strawther. I get KCP had the defense and a pretty good shooter but imo overrated defense and Jokic makes everyone a career best shooter when they play with him. It’ll be interesting to see what KCP numbers look like in Orlando. Indy fans were killing me last year when I was saying Bruce’s numbers were gonna fall without Jokic.
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Zeke 5th highest paid nugget next year. Think about that. Fire Booth
Um…is free agency over with yet? Maybe we should wait and see how the next few days play out?
If Zeke is still on the opening day roster then we can talk.
@@RS-ol8or I don't want to talk to you
@@JoshCousteau😂😂😂😂
@@RS-ol8or zeke still 5th highest paid nugget
This is fucking awful. I have no idea wtf the executive and front office are doing. All we have done is lose players. KCP, Bruce Brown and more. We have the best player in the world in his prime we need to be BUILDING a new championship team. Instead they just keep losing players and shrugging. Explain these insane fucking decisions to the fan base. They are doing nothing to improve. It’s so frustrating.
Not only that there is nothing left in the market. Everybody already made their move except Denver.😅😅😅 zeke still in the roster, no guard has been added, scorer of the bench.
2nd best player
Im glad fans finally are accepting these owners are cheap and trying to actually win money, not rings, out of Jokics all time greatness.
Booth is destroying this team.... he should be fired immediately.
Problem is that anyone who comes and plays with Jokic looks way better then they worth. Teams then overpay thinking they will play like that in their teams which never is the case and Denver is left out of market and having to find fringe players and make them stars. We can't be mad but with 3 max contracts we can''t get depth. We were lucky that everything fell into place with everybody plus Bruce Brown. You take one pieace out and it all crashes. We need 2 max + depth or again get lucky with players like BB + KCP not being overpaye and good rookies.
If he makes everyone better why is it hard. Kcp was a champion before Denver. He made Aaron Gordon worse. Boogie, hartenstein, Jerami grant, all worse with jokic.
Kcp won a chip before Jokic so you wrong
He made AG way complete player, all others did not stay long enough. As for KCP, yes he was on championship team but he was not getting paid. Now he is because of stats with Jokic.
Denver Nuggets are currently in the same modus operandi like Arsenal between 2007-2014. The Kroenke special
EXACTLY
Smdh!!!
Denver lost Bruce Brown, Jeff Green, KCP. We sign unplayable players Jackson and Nanji. We gave 3 picks to wave Jackson. We do not know what to do with Nanj and his ``big`` contract.. We dont have enough ball handlers in our team. Murray probably will not play 82 games. And he is combo guard not PG. 2023 title run was 80% Conelly credit. Booth had only 2 good moves as GM. Draft CB and trade Barton/Morris. But 30-40 milions for Zeke Nanji? Boot is very very close to threshold. Jokic has 29-30 years. Last year we were 1 bench player close to title. You can not develop 6 (six) young players if you are chasing title. Picket, Tyson, Strawther, Braun, Watson, Holmes. I do not like what Booth doing.
Jeff green overrated
@@razkable Maybe, but better then 32mil contract Zeke Naji
@@razkable but he was playable in the play-off and actually and additional big body for defense if match up required it and he had confidence to hit that one important 3, even after missing few and not shooting great overall
Those two are wrong, no one is mad about KCP leaving everyone is mad because no one else might be coming, this is not a team that can win a championship. Would rather see MPJ trade than KCP leave, but let's see how the roster gonna look like coming into the season.
@@whereyellowlemonblooms3798 I remember Jeff creating few charge fouls for Denver in the playoffs, no rookie can replace experience from a vet.
WE ARE WAY WORSE. HE WAS OART OF OUR HEART. F THIS.
😂 starter who struggles to score more than 6 points. Then people with low bball IQ like u who likes to sugarcoat the fk out of it by saying “ he’s a role player” not what i saw all year last year buddy. Couldn’t play solid defense. Couldn’t give u 10 points as a starter. So wtf does he do? Benchwarmer is wtf he was
Nuggets are wasting Jokic and Jamal prime and they need to wake up cos aint no funny at this point!
NO THEY ARE FUCKING NOT. we lose KCP and you think we aren’t contending?! Jokic IS the system
As long we have our core of Jokic, Murray, AG, and MPJ, the Nuggets are contenders. They're an automatic playoff team just because of those 4. Jokic alone took AG and MPJ to the playoffs with far inferior roster than the one we have at this very moment. Losing KCP doesn't mean we aren't contenders anymore. Now, championship contenders, that's a different story. The rest depends on the bench depth and how we can improve from the lost pieces.
Murray is doing the wastin, he was the reason no1 they didn't win in 2022 and 2024
@@LLawliet-tv9ig What was thatI we want 5 chips at least like to brake Chicago record
@@UraStr No in game 7 when all is on the line we know who play well
The GM has lost his mind, he thinks it's about making smart moves, not overpaying players, getting the value...sadly two spots just got worse and we lost one of our defensive strenghts...CB is worse than, KCP and I have no cofidence that whoever will replace CB will be better than him...this is criminal, any other superstar would ask out...GM is lucky that he has Jokic, hope he overpays Murray...at least talking about Jokic place in basketball history will be a niche thing, instead of him being in GOAT convos...
If the owner won’t pay it Booth can’t offer it. Think KCP falls more on Kroenke’s
@@mcap8396 I have no other information then what DNVR said...they said it's not a Kroenke problem, of course Kroenke's directly employ Booth so he could be easily covering for them if was asked to do so...
You think the loss of kcp is enough to make a superstar leave? lol
@@freddie5ive no, it's he trend of making your team worse for 2 seasons straight, every super star in the NBA is demanding their team to get better, else they leave, because they are indeed 1/2 the value of the whole franchise
@@UraStr two seasons straight? they won the season before last lol or have you decided that they're worse in the upcoming season already?
Can Booth go also?
im whit you
😂😂 right.
Quick answer: No. We are no longer contenders. This was so dumb.
You’re wrong. Sorry, but that would mean KCP was the most valuable player on this team.
@@jvwilli7 Say what you want, bro. KCP swung so many important games through clutch shooting, jumping passing lanes, reach around steals, following his mark through screens like a ghost … I’m too depressed to argue. So, say what you say - we just got worse while our competitors are getting better. And we didn’t have it last year.
Denver Nuggets are playing dirty game of selling Jokic championship stories while in reality they are MILLKING Jokic prime for player development and selling new and old players for more money then they worth (because Jok make them look better then they are).Jokic manager or somebody need to explain this to him or his carrier is over.
Also if Russ is coming to play in DN i am stop watching for sure. Free JOKIC
Jokic needs help at his position. You can't ask him to play 40+ minutes every game for five years in a row!
Why are the nuggets fanbase such doomers?
Low information fans lol
@@partrobot we need to relax lol
I'm extremely sad....it was nice while it lasted folks
I cried real tears…
#WestbrookHelpUs
BAD trip KCP left Denver because GM Calvin Booth is Stingy and is Wasting Jokic's Prime by not putting enough role players that fit his weakness on Defense and Maximize his DHO game 😤
#FireBooth
#KronkeMakeItHappen
#BuildOnJokicPrime do not waste every season of not improving
#WestbrookHelpUs
I hate what Booth is doing. Fire him!!!
Jokic needs to find another team if he wants to win again. This ship is sinking.
Joker should leave this franchise that doesn’t do much to surround him with good pieces to give him the chance to win multiple titles that he is capable of for the next 2-3 years!
😂
I really like this duo, can Harrison be a guest on locked on nuggets?, or on all NBA (on episode that's partly focused on nuggets)
I wrote a possible hit song weeks ago and im offering co-writing credit: Trade Mpj’s worthless ass! (Sounds like a country song.) Who’s with me?😂
I’ve been hammering for two years Mike needs to go because of his contract. Instead of fans being mad at Booth or Josh maybe their anger should be directed at that contract & Tim Connelly for giving it to him & how it’s now strangling the Nuggets.
I would have traded MPJ awhile ago. And it's crazy no one is talking about it. He's not that great.
Fudge…. but am I tripping or did we not see CB basically smother anybody he was on last year …he just gone have to work on his three point shooting
EXACTLY
still we have 1 less competent player, they are not bringing anybody close to KCP, so last season DEN was shallow, so now you substract one more player....what do you get, shallow team even shallower
@@UraStryoung dudes improve. Watson is prime for a leap. Straw there has lots of potential and we all expect to see him playing better. Pickett Tyson can see the court more this year and who knows? Also Nuggs might have a solid backup PF with Holmes
Without kcp and with booth,whinch one hunts u the most.😢
Russell Westbrook is going to be on his best behavior this year. His agent asked around and found nobody was excited to give him a multi-year contract as a free agent so he opted into his $4m 1 year contract to get some guaranteed money. This is a golden opportunity to look good playing next to Jokic (like everybody does) and then next year he can get a multi-year contract as a FA.
Give CB few months as a starter. He will be more impactful than KCP
How does Denver do this when the celtics kept their whole team?
Trade MPJ !!!!
Denver clearly doesn't want to win. Stop all bs it's simple as that
Sky is not falling, it's just that DEN relevance window has limited amount of time left, Jokic gets old, it's over. Life as well as NBA is game of percentages. And percentages for DEN to win are non 0%, but got significantly lower. No other contender would do this. If they did, they star would be out of the door already.
I mean if they don't win champ this season or next season, Booth should be fired together with coach. So someone will need to rebuild this team from the ground up.
The CBA is intended to break up dyanstic rosters. You get more fan bases with a chance to win and it allows the NBA not to be reliant on only big market teams. They essentially get more people excited for their team from more places and expand viewership. I think the CBA is also a marketing tool to boost ratings. That's a pretty wild theory, but it comes off like that a little. It bothers me because it feels like the obtuse rules and restrictions are so controlling and micro-managed that it ends up punitively punishing a team for success. Your team wins a championship and the market value of each player rises dramatically. It's especially infuriating that they changed the CBA after we built our roster. Thanks Silver, you must hate the Nuggets. Not that it's personal, but if feels like it right now.. It also does seem like the media is loathe to deal with a Denver dynasty. I'm feeling a little shaken up about next year.
Bro nobody cares about the nuggets y’all won 1 ring y’all was a one hit wonder anyways
@@LongLiveRed-qm5ge nobody cares about your hater trolling stfu
Well
..darn
If next year be same as this , I think that Nikola Jokic need to leave Denver.
😂 he’s signed through 2028 I believe.
please tell me you’re being sarcastic
I hope everyone eats their words about KCP being the key to a championship. Gimme a break.
he's not a key, but is this team better or worse without him?...it's worse in two spots, KCP spot and whoever replaces CB...I don't see DEN having any addition better than Holiday level players
@@UraStr i understand that two years ago KCP was a key to us winning a championship. How’d it work out last year? And maybe, just MAYBE we can trust the front office may know more about what they’re doing and about the players than anyone in the comments or in the media does…? I dunno, I’m choosing to love the team I root for and the the guys that make it up. KCP could’ve stayed HE chose to make overall $7m more over three years….in Orlando….🤷🏼♂️
@@jvwilli7 what is it with you and keys? :D ...he's not a key, the team just got worse in the middle of 1 of possibly 2 champions windows you get per century...there might not be a championship team in DEN during your lifetime...do you realize that. That's why it's not a time to get worse, it's time to hold on.
@@jvwilli7they’re missing the plot. We shouldn’t pity ourselves or our team, we should pity KCP who now has to spend a majority of the next few years in Orlando with the DeVos family, Jonathan Isaac, and Mickey Mouse with an expired copyright. Nuggets are going to be fine
@@partrobot dude- thank you for some positivity. It’s actually refreshing. :)
How you break up a championship team who does that excuses Westbrook? Stop 🛑 the cap Boston did it
Kelvin Booth needs to go
Good show. I'm going to miss KCP, but this CBA is full of poison pills.
@CaneOdPchinje
17 minutes ago (edited)
Of course Nuggets are failing Jokic. Completely.
Thing is - Kroenke's are putting Nuggets on the market, and the talks are already happening. So Kroenke's are trying to control the cost as much as possible.
That's the bottom line - Kroenke's are selling Nuggets and trying to squeeze every dime out of the deal.
F*k Jokic, F*k the team - Kroenke's $s are at stake.
Thing is - Booth is IN on the deal too... Probably got a "sweetener" from Kroenke's to sit tight, don't rock the boat and keep his dumb mouth shut. Big money is at stake. Malone is under NDA so he (even though he's furious) can't say shi* either.
It's kinda funny that a) Nuggets fans didn't figure this out, and b) that Kroenke's think they will be able to pull this off unnoticed.
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
It was kinda obvious :)))))
Couple of weeks ago:
Josh Kroenke: “When Nikola Jokic is on your roster, you're going for it. We have the best player in the world. We have a responsibility to him to try and go for it.”
Calvin Booth: "Im the steward of Jokic's prime"
:)))))))))))))))))))
Two weeks later - Nuggets don't even have a roster :))))))) Not to mention that their best hope left is Russ Westbrook :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) (and Russ is not an idiot and he'll tell them to f* off)
:)))))))))))))))))
But - no tax, no cost, net profit untouched.
Kroenkes and Booth :))))))))
LIARS. Dirt cheap, shameless LIARS.
One little thing though - I'm not sure Kroenkes are counting on Jokic busting this "deal" wide open. By just DEMANDING THE TRADE.
The "valuation" of Jokicless Nuggets will be utter doodoo. I can only imagine the horror :))))))))
I'm so looking forward to see this happening. Kroenkes getting stuck with this pile of poopoo and Jokic doing the "wave and smile" thingy.
Dumb, cheap, greedy, dishonest Kroenkes.
BTW - Booth is now in Europe - he's NOT in US, even though it's the 11th hour of the FA... He's in EUROPE. Why?
He's there to APPEASE Jokic - to give him some BS story in hope that Jokic will not fuck up Kroenke's little scheme.
The idea is - appease Jokic, get him to do some public BS with Booth (interview, video, appearance, photo... anything) - like "nuggets GM is supporting Jokic and Serbia in the Olympics, even though it's critical time for the Nuggets"... a "grand gesture" to make sure he doesn't blow this deal up.
What a pathetic bunch of cigani.
But, Raznatovic is way ahead of these bozos. There won't be any "meets" any "photos" or any any.,.. Jokic will simply IGNORE and AVOID Booth like he would avoid an infected dog. And there will be "Jokic Demands a trade" news coming in the next week or so.
And that will destroy Kroenke's calculation.
F*k you Kroenkes.
Look take it easy guys. Braun will slide into his position. Westbrook is a trip dub threat off the bench. Jokic is pushing for westbrook. I know Jokic doesnt know basketball like a youtube comments section. They let him leave because of Braun and KCP is cool and all but we didnt win a championship because of him. D A Ron gives us a big who can guard all 5. catching lobs from Joker and westbrook will give our 6th man pop. My guess Braun chips in 15ppg 7.5 rpg and 4apg shoots 41% from 3pt. Just chill its going to be ok!
Julian Strawther is another guy who believes defense is someone else’s job…..
And why should Malone play Strawther, Pickett, etc. if they don’t make a positive impact in the minutes they are given. Same pattern as with Nnaji….
Bring in Kris Dunn nuff said...
Sure KCP has flaws but we need to upgrade as a team as all others are getting better around us.....I don't see that happening so far
DON'T SEE NUGGETS IN FUTURE PLAYOFFS AND PLAYERS THEY ARE GETTING ARE NOT STARTERS
As a laker fan please get Russ please it will make me feel less said about my own trash ass team
No unless Payton Watson and our draft pick. Play well
Too many Denver fans blackpilling right now. Bunch of spoiled drama llamas.
You act like we just lost Joker. 😂 KCP was mostly great, yes, but they have guys like CB & Jules who can now step up & show what they have. Jules in particular flashed talent last year for the few games he got, even defensively.
This CBA punishes teams like Denver who try to keep a core together. It’s forced socialism. Forced parity. It is what it is. Booth may not be perfect but don’t blame him for what the owners ALL signed off on.
I’ll add that if you signed KCP this year you 💯 lose Aaron Gordon next year. That’s fact. And ask yourself: which player is more important?
KCP literally disappeared against Ant in the playoffs & got manhandled by him. CB did much better. Get a grip Denver fans.
Start P Wat at the 2, feed MPJ and Denver will be fine.
Booth and Malone are no longer valuable, hire a decent GM
We already had a tough time scoring and now C B is going to take over give us a break porter fades in big playoffs games this owner is satisfied with one Ring
C B starting is one less bench player
MPJ needs to play at the end of the season. He had personal issues going on.
It's time to fire Booth and hire someone with brain !
I think what could really make Westbrook be a. nice fit is to be the main piece of the bench lineup in terms of scoring. I think he has been in really awkward spots for his play style in the LA teams
It could work- at least our bench would have an IDENTITY finally. Maybe, just maybe our culture makes him a smarter shot taker too
Westbrook is also a beast in transition and running fastbreaks which fits the playing style of our 2nd unit of Strawther, Watson, and Holmes. The bench needs to play faster in general and capitalize on their athleticism. I think Westbrook can helps with that. That should be our bench identity. He's also a terrific passer and rebounder. He also hustles like crazy. That's the energy that has been missing ever since we lost Bruce Brown. As long as Westbrook is not playing iso ball or used as a spot up shooter, I actually think he would fit pretty well with the bench. Yea, he's definitely got to stop taking so many of those awkward mid-range shots. Those are momentum killers.
yea hes in that weird spot where you dont want the ball in his hand in a main unit, but on a bench unit he can destroy other teams imo
As long as he struggles to shoot, he won't be a fit ANYWHERE.
So sad that KCP is gone!!!😥😥😥
Lads 1 crazy news : Isaiah Hartenstein will leave the New York Knicks to sign a three-year, $87 million deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. I mean WTF! Hartenstein 30mil per season! This is crazy!
There is nothing wrong CB playing the starting role. Its how the denver going to deal with zeke and possible sign players as support.
Nobody wants zeke. He's trash with a large contract.
Cb terrible shooter
@@nickchillwind yea we know. We aint casual😅 but its not like he cant improve it. His defense is good, good finisher at the rim. What he lacks is his 3pts shooting. He needs to be at 38-40% with atleast 300 3PA.
I never love Westbrook... I don't like player's that are like cow's who give you 50L of milk and than kick the bucket and waste everything!
Something like WBurton was or similar as J Murray do sometimes or last playoff to be exact!
But...in this moment and with all that happened,it would not be the worst thing and Denver definitely need player with skills that Russ have!
So many it's not that bad to try that at least one year!
Jokić can definitely play with him and that could look grate...i mean,we don't have to much to lose in this situation.
If CB can work on his offensive game. That would be great..
I do love CB
ITS just, Denver has to upgrade their bench. It’s pretty cut and dry.
We need a backup C. Not named Deandre.
And a backup PG to run the bench… i mean. Am i wrong? Please tell me if i am…
If someone is more basketball educated. Plz educate me, humbly
Lol...without KCP and net zero as the replacement, Denver will be a play in team next season...count on it. And does anyone in their right mind think garbage murray is worth 50 million a year?
I have no issue with braun taking over kcp's role. He comes off the bench and makes plays consistently. I'm just concern how CB can play down the stretch after playing an entire game. Hopefully he has the stamina like kcp and can stay consistent down the stretch.
I understand the concern about the second apron restrictions but this is the best window in franchise history and parity is all over the league this is the time to go for it. Keep the best starting 5 together it’s pretty simple
Ansver is NOT.
I looked and read everything about Denver and nobody is talking about Westrbook, they are talking about Clay and that Denver is interested.
I like CB over KCP at 2 ngl coz of last playoffs
We just need a good 6th man
No
Can we PLEASE stop being such babies about the Nuggets. WE HAVE THE BEST PLAYER ON THE PLANET AND 4 out of the 5 starters we WON A FUCKING CHAMPIONSHIP WITH!!!!
And maybe, just MAYBE KCP is NOT the player he WAS.
Maybe just maybe it was a fluke run and Murray isn't that good or consistent. Mpj chokes too much and Gordon doesn't know what to do off ball like Draymond. Not to mention everyone else improved while they kept falling backwards
It's clear Calvin Booth was planning this for a long time, moving Christian Braun into the starting lineup to maintain salary cap flexibility despite the 3 max contracts. It had nothing to do with KCP performance in the playoffs. I think he's pre-positioning himself to let Aaron Gordon walk at the end of 25-26 season when his contract expires and he gets a max extension; and then they move Daron Holmes into the starting lineup. He loves his draft picks and thinks the right idea is to develop and rely on them; even though that is wasting Jokic prime years! Jokic, Murray and MPJ are the 3 key pieces they will keep long-term. I think KCP was more valuable than MPJ, but they couldn't move MPJ's contract anyway.
Murray's health along with his and MPJs consistency, long betting them on maxes over keeping Gordan next to Jokic..... I'm ready for Booth to get fired now...
trade the 2031 draft pick for Bruce Brown!
Half of Jokic's touchdown passes were completed by KCP, the CB is extremely bad in the fast counter attack where we are 2 on 1, even 1 on 1. The completion rate of the CB near the hoop is 0, the bright spot is the dunk on Gobert with his left hand - a regular part of the season. As I wrote earlier, Denver will be at 44.45 wins, maybe even less. This with KCP, the whole locker room will suffer, Denver will not bring anyone more, that's obvious.
They still have Julian Strawther, he is good shooter, maybe they count on him.
KCP really apparently doesn’t wanna win anymore. His loss.
Orlando is on the way up. Check their record last year
I don't think Nuggets lose anything on the defensive side. I even think we may even be better on that side. But on offense I think we are also significantly weaker. Biggest issue for T-Rex Braun is his shooting. Spacing will be an issue in playoffs. AG is already not guarded on the perimeter, having another player that can be ignored by defenses is too much. Also, hopefully Braun defense isn't a mirage, which may be the case for players going from bench and being a surprise defender into starting role player where attackers are more familiar with him.
They've lost versatility, KCP is literarily the best in the league in some defensive aspects
We just lost our defense on the perimeter. Need someone to step up.
KCP was a great 5th starter at $15 but not worth >$20
Westbrick really?
Let's be honest man. KCP ain't worth 4 more mill than Malik Monk. Malik took less to stay in the place he likes. KCP money chased. He's made a 119 mill in his career. I'm not really gonna be that sad. Glad he came along for the Championship. But to screw our team for the future to keep him, not worth it. You wanna lose AG for KCP? Hell no....
KCP defense was nice. But guys he only averaged 10 points a game....thats what Reggie did. Man i will miss those 3pt shots. But in the long run this is right decision.
I have second guessed the Kroenkes before. But we all know. The dudes know how to win.
Learn empathy, I swear they should start teaching this in school, imagine yourself getting offered 30 million dollars to stay at home, and 60 million dollars to move somewhere for 3 years...every human that didn't just fall on his head should move away and get the additional 30
It doesn’t even make it more likely they keep AG. If anything it’s an indicator they’re willing to let him walk if someone else pays enough
Supposedly it was more like 66mil vs 60mil or something close like that. Not double.
Thank you! Finally a fan who has a reasonable response.
AG is immensely more valuable & if they resigned KCP AG would have been gone. That’s a fact.
KCP also disappeared against Ant in the playoffs; CB played MUCH better against him.
Denver fans need to calm down.
KCP got torched by Dbook who takes jump shots and he just hit them and then he didn't that's called variance, if we are basing stuff on what happened against MIN, Murray should get the minimum contract...
Murray was injured
@@cyleycole8940 KCP was injured
@@UraStr no he wasn’t
Murray was playing with the same injury Giannis sat out for
I will miss him, but he was too inconsistent on D and offense. We have too much talent on this team to be worried about KCP leaving. Good riddance. Next man up mentality is weak with the DNVR guys. Orlando Overpayed, and KCP knows he has like one more good year left, so he needs to secure the bag. The biggest part has to be on Malone playing the younger guys he already stunned Zekes development, they need to go through painful progression. Malone might as well be Tom Thibbedue 2.0 the way he runs the starters into the ground.
I agree. Losing KCP sucks, but he would have to be replaced eventually. I do admit it's at least 1 year sooner than I would hope but it's bound to happen due to the CBA and having to rely on rookie scale/cheaper contracts. Not to mention, KCP is the oldest and most expendable player out of the starting 5. This is also one of the reasons Booth drafted Christian Braun, to prepare him to take over the starting shooting guard spot when the time comes. Overall, KCP is the 2 way player that Denver needs and as the team looks right now, it got worse. However, CB is taller, stronger, and more athletic than KCP. He's more equipped to guarding bigger guards and forward which is the trajectory of where most teams are heading now. Of course, you still have the Curry, Kyrie, Fox, and Ja Morant of the world who are shifty and too fast for most defenders to guard and stop completely. You can't have best of both worlds. You can only try to take away a part of their game and make them uncomfortable. And I believe CB is a more versatile defender than KCP at doing that. CB is also a better rebounder which helps on both ends of the floor. The only problem with CB is his shooting. It's unproven whether or not he can shoot at a high level consistently. Teams are gonna dare him to shoot and so perhaps the offensive game plan should also change with him being on the floor like maybe he can drive more and just attack the basket. The biggest problem is the bench. With Justin Holiday most likely not coming back, Malone got to start playing the young guys more seriously specifically Watson, Strawther, and Holmes. I really wish that Zeke could have worked out in Denver. He had all the making of a modern big at PF/C but everything changed when the team decided to play him exclusively at backup center position. That screwed over his development on offense along with his confidence. On top of that, the team changed his jumpshot form for no reason when it was working perfectly before. It might be a bit slower, but why mess with it if there was no sign of him struggling to find his shots. Zeke was a near 40% 3 pt shooter before everything went downhill. This is the classic case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Right now, the bench depth will determine how far the team can go in the playoffs. We still need a quality backup PG and center. That's a bigger concern for me than losing KCP.
Why does LeBron only get blamed for not picking Jokic in All Star game not the other team captain? I know it’s bc it’s LeBron (Adam has a Wade & Kobe USA jersey so that makes sense he wouldn’t be biggest LeBron fan…along with the fact he’s been on the hated lakers the last 6yrs), but I never hear anyone else mention the other captain who didn’t pick him.😅😆😅.
That doesn’t mean LeBron didn’t know Jokic wasn’t one of the best centers/players ever, he’s just not an All Star game player which means absolutely nothing at the end of the day as it’s a meaningless scrimmage with dunks and crazy 3s.
LeBron has one of the best IQs for his sport as any athlete in any sport ever. I assure you he knows how ILLmatic God tier Jokic is and has for AT least 5yrs, but especially since 2020-21.
Jokic & LeBron both know their IQs are among GOAT in NBA history with Magic Bird MJ Big O Jerry West Nash Luka Duncan Kareem Russell etc etc.
Losing KCP hurts, but I like CB in starting lineup and Westbrook at only 4 mill per year off bench in Reggie Jackson mins.
What hurts Nuggets was 2023 draft with 3 picks may of had 3/3 misses with Trayce Jackson Davis, GG Jackson, Leonard Miller, Toumani Camara all look to be better. It’s not easy to draft late 1st to mid 2nd, but when guys fall who are projected to be 20-28 are there you then it’s more on you to pass on them and “reach” on guys.
It’s still too early to say for sure. 1 or 2 of those guys need to hit as at least role players (include Holmes too who I like better and he was at least projected in the 20-28 range).
The only picks I'm skeptical of Calvin Booth so far have been Pickett and Tyson just because 1) We have never really seen them play last season. 2) Both aren't the quickest guys in terms of lateral movement and ability to guard multiple positions so I feel like they both are still considered "project" players. 3) I feel like Calvin Booth did reached for these 2 players when he didn't have to. And was it really necessary to add 2 more rookies in the 2nd round when in reality 2nd round draft picks rarely work out and they take more time to develop. Hopefully they work but personally I would rather trade them because we still have 3 other young players to develop in Watson, Strawther, and Holmes coming off the bench.
cheap ass franchise lol
Trapped by the new CBA.
not really
More like Kroenke’s gonna Kroenke
Trapped by giving up draft picks for guys we didn’t use. McGee, Bryant, that one SG guy… all the seconds this year. Our GMs have squandered so many assets it’s nuts
@@OwenHooper-mv4fmalso giving zeke that contract
🤣🤣🤣🤣 It was all fun when you guys were "Lakers Daddy" Not so fun anymore is it lol. Enjoy going back to mediocrity. 17 vs 1 championships lol
Looking back a sign and trade for Caruso might have been the best deal Denver could have done maybe include Orlando in the deal
Denver get Caruso
Orlando get KCP
Bulls get Issac or Suggs
No, they can not win without KCP and with this bench. This is the third big piece they have lost besides Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. It looks like they are in development mode and not "win now" mode. They suck in trades.
Our GM continues to be the reincarnation of Jerry Krause, tearing down a championship roster just to build with his guys only to prove how much of a genius he is🙄 prepare to be known as a fluke champion, which I already felt.
I'm not worried about the nuggets kcp only scored10 points a game he was lost in the playoffs
Do you know how much points Ben Wallace had trough his carrier? 5 (five). And he is one of the best that ever played this game Ask yourself why.
Braun is gonna get exposed so is the defense and the bench...
Yep! Brauns offense is not 1st team worthy
Jokić will have to rise his 3p % to the level it was in 2023 and everything will be ok. As long as he is not tired, he will fill the gap for CB shooting.
Lmao Jokic need to fly on a broom while MPJ can play like ass every playoffs just give me a break
Still no backup center
@@gorantamburic2000why are you setting the same standards for jokic and MPJ… mpj shoots 10% better from 3 than jokic in close out games btw.
@@undiscoveredstars1002 are you trolling? in key games he disappears all the time and he is overpaid cos of that team have a big problem now
KCP was overrated. Nuggets were desperately trying to sell him as an all NBA defender calling him “first team” as his nickname lol. What all defense team did he make again? CB just as good of a defender
Cb horrible shooter.. kcp not so much
@@nickchillwind I’d like to see more strawther. I get KCP had the defense and a pretty good shooter but imo overrated defense and Jokic makes everyone a career best shooter when they play with him. It’ll be interesting to see what KCP numbers look like in Orlando. Indy fans were killing me last year when I was saying Bruce’s numbers were gonna fall without Jokic.
Lmao I can’t wait for the nuggets
1st round exit next season!
damn it what a sad day.....