Well said! I read one page of the Kandinsky text and immediately knew the book would be difficult to grasp, even as a current graduate student and practicing artist. Your final words are very touching and I whole-heartedly agree the spiritual and positive progress of humanity is obtainable through art. I often feel a bit isolated in my personal creative endeavors but the right community always is possible!
I agree with you, if the newer contemporary artists are not having these conversations either internally or with others, and are just thinking of doing something different to monetize their work. We’ve definitely lost some thing special.
Ooooh love your thoughts on this. Couldn't agree more with what you said at the end... we don't talk about art that way these days but maybe we should start
Thank you for your review. I'm an illustration MA student and I'm writing a paper on spirituality and art, so Kandiski's book is by my side... but its so hard to understand or focus on. I turned to RUclips for more digestible information and found your clip. I only wish you'd given us page references! Anyway, I agree that we are probably loosing something significant as we focus on post post modern theory, and as we turn our backs on the spiritual in art. A couple of years ago I started abstract painting. I had a breakthrough when I turned on my favourite spiritual songs and allowed myself to paint to them. I didn't focus on the canvas at all, just entered into worship. (I know I sound really weird, just saying that! I sold one and have the other 2 on my walls at home. Something special happened! Now I'm studying art (illustration) formally, I feel a huge pressure to move away from this element in art, but something inside me won't let go. I'm sure I wouldn't agree with everything Kandinski theorised about, but I'm going to do my best to understand his theories better. After all, just look what he produced! I hope you recovered swiftly from the pins and needles!
Thanks for this comment! I hope your paper goes well. I think the best art is able to take the best things from postmodernism and be spiritually powerful at the same time. For me David Lynch does that. And sorry about not leaving page references!
3:22 - thesis: art isn't to be representational of how things are, but to illicit/evoke emotions and spiritual sensations 4:22 - artists are prophets doomed to impoverishment, with secret vision to satisfy the inner need of humans, but must refine the human soul. accomplished by taking art into the kingdom of the abstract.
I've noticed there's more backlash against "wishful" thinking and "childish" thinking, as if intellect is better than emotion. Being raised by a narcissist, I'm noticing this trend among many nowadays, from religion, to art, to atheism. Narcissists are very appearance based and are much less about the emotion and internal, personal experiences of others. Narcissists also tend to believe they are intellectually above others, as evidenced by how they appear to be smart and cunning, yet are uncaring of those they harm. More cognitive, less emotion allows for harming others. Not only do i have autism, I also have synesthesia, or at least I used to have it before trauma and abuse. I'm currently using my art as a way to fight against my abuser, and to debunk and challenge common toxic positivity many spew out as a way to dismiss or justify abuse of humans, animals, the planet, and eventually possibly other planets. But on to the art. I tend to have different emotions for different colors depending on hue. Candlewick yellow (f2ebd3, ffffe5) is playful and calm, yet gold yellows (FFD700, D4AF37) are lonely and disturbingly isolating. Lime green (AEF359) is playful and energetic, whereas pine or forest green (234F1E, 333e13) is frightening and hopeless. Kandinsky's idea on yellow isn't too far off. I found this while browsing for yellow hues. "In color psychology, yellow is thought to encourage optimism and be uplifting. However, too much yellow can cause aggression or frustration-it’s certainly not a calming hue. Its modern-day association with hazards and safety also mean bright yellow can make a startling impression."
He's defining his subjective experiencing into a system, it's useful for explaining to the audience what his art means to him, but not very helpful to those who wish to do what he did. I say this because, as someone who does this sort of art I can tell you, yellow is not aggressive 😂, yellow is, FOR ME, joyous, brightly happy. Now I think each artists of abstract should pay attention to how the patterns and colors make them feel, don't assume that what yellow means today is what it will mean to you tomorrow. Use something like Gendlin's Focusing to more deeply suss out for yourself what your art means to you, and to deepen your relationship with yourself. I would also recommend, giving your audience only mysterious hints at would it could maybe mean to you, and hints at why it maybe means that too you, and allow them to, between your art and your very vague hints, suss out how they feel about it, then listen to their feelings and see how it changes how you feel about your own art. In this way your art is alive through the interaction with others, and we grow together. That said, I think his idea of inner need is interesting, and there he may be touching on something a bit more universal, even if I'm not sure he got into totally right. Whatever the case I love Kandinski's art, and I think vaguely comparing it to a visual representation of music is a wonderful way to look at his work. I myself am attempting to compose music to go along with each piece I create, to make my work more immersive and use the music to help the audience under-stand.
You might not have caught on to every page of the book, but you nailed the basic idea when you mentioned “the soul of humanity”. You’re also right that, for some reason, people shy away from a sincere discussion of the ideas. Frankly, I believe the ideas are quite within reach, and profitably so, if explored via that sincere discussion. Very good video.
Thank you! Loved your candid and sincere presentation. Indeed your students are lucky! Have more courage to try to plow through the book now. Would love to see your work. Will follow you for sure! BTW are you familiar with the Kalm Report?
Well said! I read one page of the Kandinsky text and immediately knew the book would be difficult to grasp, even as a current graduate student and practicing artist. Your final words are very touching and I whole-heartedly agree the spiritual and positive progress of humanity is obtainable through art. I often feel a bit isolated in my personal creative endeavors but the right community always is possible!
Thanks very much! I agree especially with the internet it’s possible to create communities around our creativity!
I agree with you, if the newer contemporary artists are not having these conversations either internally or with others, and are just thinking of doing something different to monetize their work. We’ve definitely lost some thing special.
Your students are very fortunate to have a teacher of your calibre
Thank you 🙏
Ooooh love your thoughts on this. Couldn't agree more with what you said at the end... we don't talk about art that way these days but maybe we should start
Good summary. Yes, it is a difficuly book to read but the ideas are so relevant to the contempory world
Thank you for your review. I'm an illustration MA student and I'm writing a paper on spirituality and art, so Kandiski's book is by my side... but its so hard to understand or focus on. I turned to RUclips for more digestible information and found your clip. I only wish you'd given us page references! Anyway, I agree that we are probably loosing something significant as we focus on post post modern theory, and as we turn our backs on the spiritual in art. A couple of years ago I started abstract painting. I had a breakthrough when I turned on my favourite spiritual songs and allowed myself to paint to them. I didn't focus on the canvas at all, just entered into worship. (I know I sound really weird, just saying that! I sold one and have the other 2 on my walls at home. Something special happened! Now I'm studying art (illustration) formally, I feel a huge pressure to move away from this element in art, but something inside me won't let go. I'm sure I wouldn't agree with everything Kandinski theorised about, but I'm going to do my best to understand his theories better. After all, just look what he produced! I hope you recovered swiftly from the pins and needles!
Thanks for this comment! I hope your paper goes well. I think the best art is able to take the best things from postmodernism and be spiritually powerful at the same time. For me David Lynch does that. And sorry about not leaving page references!
I think we should bring back more mysticism in art!
3:22 - thesis: art isn't to be representational of how things are, but to illicit/evoke emotions and spiritual sensations
4:22 - artists are prophets doomed to impoverishment, with secret vision to satisfy the inner need of humans, but must refine the human soul. accomplished by taking art into the kingdom of the abstract.
I just got the book you reviewed. I am going for the slow and steady approach. Wish me luck. BTW I loved this video.
Thanks! Enjoy the book 📚!
Thanks, i needed a summary!
Very welcome!
LSD is Kandinsky on ice!
I've noticed there's more backlash against "wishful" thinking and "childish" thinking, as if intellect is better than emotion. Being raised by a narcissist, I'm noticing this trend among many nowadays, from religion, to art, to atheism. Narcissists are very appearance based and are much less about the emotion and internal, personal experiences of others. Narcissists also tend to believe they are intellectually above others, as evidenced by how they appear to be smart and cunning, yet are uncaring of those they harm. More cognitive, less emotion allows for harming others.
Not only do i have autism, I also have synesthesia, or at least I used to have it before trauma and abuse. I'm currently using my art as a way to fight against my abuser, and to debunk and challenge common toxic positivity many spew out as a way to dismiss or justify abuse of humans, animals, the planet, and eventually possibly other planets.
But on to the art. I tend to have different emotions for different colors depending on hue. Candlewick yellow (f2ebd3, ffffe5) is playful and calm, yet gold yellows (FFD700, D4AF37) are lonely and disturbingly isolating. Lime green (AEF359) is playful and energetic, whereas pine or forest green (234F1E, 333e13) is frightening and hopeless.
Kandinsky's idea on yellow isn't too far off. I found this while browsing for yellow hues. "In color psychology, yellow is thought to encourage optimism and be uplifting. However, too much yellow can cause aggression or frustration-it’s certainly not a calming hue. Its modern-day association with hazards and safety also mean bright yellow can make a startling impression."
wowe loved this!!! seeing sum things in a different way now. THANKS
Thank you 🙏
He's defining his subjective experiencing into a system, it's useful for explaining to the audience what his art means to him, but not very helpful to those who wish to do what he did. I say this because, as someone who does this sort of art I can tell you, yellow is not aggressive 😂, yellow is, FOR ME, joyous, brightly happy. Now I think each artists of abstract should pay attention to how the patterns and colors make them feel, don't assume that what yellow means today is what it will mean to you tomorrow. Use something like Gendlin's Focusing to more deeply suss out for yourself what your art means to you, and to deepen your relationship with yourself. I would also recommend, giving your audience only mysterious hints at would it could maybe mean to you, and hints at why it maybe means that too you, and allow them to, between your art and your very vague hints, suss out how they feel about it, then listen to their feelings and see how it changes how you feel about your own art. In this way your art is alive through the interaction with others, and we grow together. That said, I think his idea of inner need is interesting, and there he may be touching on something a bit more universal, even if I'm not sure he got into totally right. Whatever the case I love Kandinski's art, and I think vaguely comparing it to a visual representation of music is a wonderful way to look at his work. I myself am attempting to compose music to go along with each piece I create, to make my work more immersive and use the music to help the audience under-stand.
You might not have caught on to every page of the book, but you nailed the basic idea when you mentioned “the soul of humanity”. You’re also right that, for some reason, people shy away from a sincere discussion of the ideas. Frankly, I believe the ideas are quite within reach, and profitably so, if explored via that sincere discussion. Very good video.
Nice Video . Good Work.
Thank you!
Thank you my teacher told me to read this
Thank you! Loved your candid and sincere presentation. Indeed your students are lucky! Have more courage to try to plow through the book now. Would love to see your work. Will follow you for sure! BTW are you familiar with the Kalm Report?
Should say “I have more courage…”
Thank you! No what is the Kalm Report??
It’s by this guy, James Kalm who goes into New York Art, galleries and talks about the work. It’s really interesting and informative. :-)
@@ArtTheoriez its a guy in NYC who audits gallery shows. (tried to reply earlier sorry)
Jameskalm
👍🏻 thanks!
very welcome
I’m confused on how he felt about art and spirituality
Hey, thanks for your comment! What specificity did you want to know that the video didn’t address? Maybe I can help here?
Tels nothing ,sorry
Learn to spell
Hmu u look so lonely
Thank you!