What you described about the way positive reinforcement is too often pitched - delivered like sanctimonious dogma that turns people off is so perfectly on point! Honestly, the way you presented and demonstrated it in your navigation of training options was probably the only shot I had of giving it another look. I'm so appreciative. 👍
I’m glad! And yea, it’s ironic how some strong advocates of positive reinforcement don’t seem to treat humans with the same kindness and understanding. I don’t think it’s effective “human training” to shove something down their throats.😂
I learned clicker training, we called it back then, maybe 15 years ago, and it was such a boon to my understanding of how to teach, calm, and desensitize my grumpy, skeptical horse.
What a nice job! You have a good farrier who actually respects what you are doing. Also I like the way you and your vet worked together and how he decided to get the teeth floated.
From my own viewing of you and others it seems that a healthy combo of R+ and R- is the best. Healthy being what works best for the horse each session. This farrier visit proves the point. :) Good job to all of you.
Girl, I am in tears because I feel so proud of you. Your comment and passion will lead you to so many blessings in your future. Keep up the great work and keep sharing your journey. Huge fan!!!!
Good job on helping this horse understand how to handle this trim. How great to have a farrier that goes along with what you are doing. He has a lot of patience with this horse. Merlin has come a very long way. Again, good job!
I LOVE that you consistently remind your audience of the correct definitions of positive and negative reinforcement. The differences are often misunderstood and you have been very clear. Kudos! So glad that you have discovered the power of positive reinforcement applied consistently and correctly. Great job got you and Merlin!
Thank you! Yea, I try to keep in mind that each video might be the first video someone has seen from my channel. Sometimes, it feels repetitive to me, but i think its worth it! haha
Your countdown game was a nice way to give your mustang something to focus on rather than just worry about what the farrier was doing. Good job! My favorite R+ horse people are Alexandra Kurland and Peggy Hogan; I have dogs, but have borrowed any number of ideas from the training they've done with horses.
This is SO cool! Definitely was encouraging after a rough day with a failed trailering attempt 😟 What's most amazing is how many ways a horse can learn!
Woohoo to positive reinforcement being used more often. I think it's the best confidence builder and brings horses out of their shell. You do a fantastic job with all your mustangs, I'd love to see a sparrow update again soon.
I am 100% with you on all of what you said in this video! I use both myself and agree that they are often misrepresented. Thank you for the video and great job!
one can see that you put in the work, I think it is a Rick Gore quote: horses do well, what they do often, a treat here and there is probably helpful, the rest is a big portion of sacking out, I guess
Merlin and you did a wonderfully, different techniques work at different times. My question is where did you find the book Mustang Camp? I tried to google it and all that came up was a mustang camp rescue site. Thank you for all of your videos!
Could you link that video on positive reinforcement? I could not find it in the description box. I'm so sorry if it's there and I just could not find it!
You’re right! I think I did a mass description box edit recently, and I didn’t realize it got deleted! Thanks for pointing that out, this is the link! ruclips.net/video/esjd24kYk3g/видео.html
Okay.. So I am a huge horse noob, I just watch these videos for fun. But is it possible his front hooves felt better after they were done and Merlin realized his back hooves would also feel better if he let the farrier do something to them? I don't know if horses could even come to such a conclusion, but it reminded me of matted dogs getting a haircut, they're often more relaxed after they realize how good it feels to have a part of their body done. Is there a horse expert here that could tell me if it's complete bogus or a real possibility?
Positive reinforcement is used so much in zoos and sanctuaries these days to get the animals to participate in their own health care and to avoid using sedation when being transported.
Please watch EMMA MASSINGALE on RUclips. She is the most amazing horse whisperer I have ever seen and she goes on many fantastic journeys with her horses across England, Ireland and Scotland. She doesn't worry about reinforcement - she focuses on behavior and communication.
Negative reinforcement is not the removal of a stimuli, it is the introduction of something negative such as spanking. Removal would fall more in line with random reinforcement. And with all animals, humans included, positive is much better than negative. Whereas random is often seen by some as the best. Like a slot machine. But wiping a horse, ie negative reinforcement, doesn't teach good behavior. It just makes them fearful. Maybe some one in the equine field has changed those terms a bit. I wouldn't know. But in the true sense of the term, negative is negative spanking....wiping... Time out is the removal of a reinforcement. But when they are good, they get a positive stimulus.
I think you need to brush up on your behaviorism terms; in operant conditioning negative = removal and reinforcer = stimulus that increases the frequency of the preceding behavior. Sure, outright whipping a horse so you could stop whipping it when it performs the desired behavior would most likely create a fearful horse but aversive stimuli don't have to be harsh, just less desirable than another option the horse could easily achieve; heck, halters and all the natural riding aids work by negative reinforcement. A timeout would be an example of a negative punisher
What you described about the way positive reinforcement is too often pitched - delivered like sanctimonious dogma that turns people off is so perfectly on point! Honestly, the way you presented and demonstrated it in your navigation of training options was probably the only shot I had of giving it another look. I'm so appreciative. 👍
I’m glad! And yea, it’s ironic how some strong advocates of positive reinforcement don’t seem to treat humans with the same kindness and understanding. I don’t think it’s effective “human training” to shove something down their throats.😂
I learned clicker training, we called it back then, maybe 15 years ago, and it was such a boon to my understanding of how to teach, calm, and desensitize my grumpy, skeptical horse.
What a nice job! You have a good farrier who actually respects what you are doing. Also I like the way you and your vet worked together and how he decided to get the teeth floated.
My farrier is fantastic! I definitely have a good one. And thank you!
From my own viewing of you and others it seems that a healthy combo of R+ and R- is the best. Healthy being what works best for the horse each session.
This farrier visit proves the point. :)
Good job to all of you.
Thanks Shannon! That’s a great way to put it!
Girl, I am in tears because I feel so proud of you. Your comment and passion will lead you to so many blessings in your future. Keep up the great work and keep sharing your journey. Huge fan!!!!
Aww thank you so much! That truly means a lot! 😊💜💜
Good job on helping this horse understand how to handle this trim. How great to have a farrier that goes along with what you are doing. He has a lot of patience with this horse. Merlin has come a very long way. Again, good job!
Thank you! And yes, my farrier is awesome! He’s been so good with my horses!
I LOVE that you consistently remind your audience of the correct definitions of positive and negative reinforcement. The differences are often misunderstood and you have been very clear. Kudos! So glad that you have discovered the power of positive reinforcement applied consistently and correctly. Great job got you and Merlin!
Thank you! Yea, I try to keep in mind that each video might be the first video someone has seen from my channel. Sometimes, it feels repetitive to me, but i think its worth it! haha
Your countdown game was a nice way to give your mustang something to focus on rather than just worry about what the farrier was doing. Good job! My favorite R+ horse people are Alexandra Kurland and Peggy Hogan; I have dogs, but have borrowed any number of ideas from the training they've done with horses.
This is SO cool! Definitely was encouraging after a rough day with a failed trailering attempt 😟
What's most amazing is how many ways a horse can learn!
Woohoo to positive reinforcement being used more often. I think it's the best confidence builder and brings horses out of their shell. You do a fantastic job with all your mustangs, I'd love to see a sparrow update again soon.
It definitely is a confidence booster! It’s done wonders for Merlin(&sparrow!)
Great job!! Way to take your time & giving your horse the time and exposure/experience & practice!!
Thank you for these kind words! 🙂🙂
His mind is right he going to be a nice horse.
I am 100% with you on all of what you said in this video! I use both myself and agree that they are often misrepresented. Thank you for the video and great job!
Thank you! We need more middle ground people for sure lol
@@TheProjectEquestrian Agreed!!
Good food and care has really improved his coat.
Well done Merlin. That was brilliant 👏
Postive reinforcement really did the trick! You have come so far with him and the other horses
Thank you!! 😊
im loving to watch your journey
Beautiful boy!! And great job 👏
Thank you for always sharing your experiences with us! It's super inspiring!
You’re welcome! I love doing it 😊
Great video!!! Makes me rethink a lot 🤔
one can see that you put in the work,
I think it is a Rick Gore quote: horses do well, what they do often,
a treat here and there is probably helpful, the rest is a big portion of sacking out, I guess
Merlin and you did a wonderfully, different techniques work at different times. My question is where did you find the book Mustang Camp? I tried to google it and all that came up was a mustang camp rescue site. Thank you for all of your videos!
Here’s a link to the 2 different books! magicmustangtamer.com/books-and-guides/
@@TheProjectEquestrian Thank You!
Subscribed!!!
You are so refreshing & relatable😊
Aww, thank you 💜🙂🙂🙂
Wish someone would feed me M&Ms while I'm getting a mani/pedi. I would kick out a lot less.
Great video, pretty Horse.
At first yeah he was a little nervous but maybe if you can calm him well the farriar comes somehow maybe with apples or something
Could you link that video on positive reinforcement? I could not find it in the description box. I'm so sorry if it's there and I just could not find it!
You’re right! I think I did a mass description box edit recently, and I didn’t realize it got deleted! Thanks for pointing that out, this is the link! ruclips.net/video/esjd24kYk3g/видео.html
Okay.. So I am a huge horse noob, I just watch these videos for fun. But is it possible his front hooves felt better after they were done and Merlin realized his back hooves would also feel better if he let the farrier do something to them? I don't know if horses could even come to such a conclusion, but it reminded me of matted dogs getting a haircut, they're often more relaxed after they realize how good it feels to have a part of their body done. Is there a horse expert here that could tell me if it's complete bogus or a real possibility?
Aww he was brilliant 👏
Positive reinforcement is used so much in zoos and sanctuaries these days to get the animals to participate in their own health care and to avoid using sedation when being transported.
Oh my! Shoeing horses must be hard on a persons back.
Wow ❤
Please watch EMMA MASSINGALE on RUclips. She is the most amazing horse whisperer I have ever seen and she goes on many fantastic journeys with her horses across England, Ireland and Scotland. She doesn't worry about reinforcement - she focuses on behavior and communication.
Negative reinforcement is not the removal of a stimuli, it is the introduction of something negative such as spanking. Removal would fall more in line with random reinforcement. And with all animals, humans included, positive is much better than negative. Whereas random is often seen by some as the best. Like a slot machine. But wiping a horse, ie negative reinforcement, doesn't teach good behavior. It just makes them fearful. Maybe some one in the equine field has changed those terms a bit. I wouldn't know. But in the true sense of the term, negative is negative spanking....wiping... Time out is the removal of a reinforcement. But when they are good, they get a positive stimulus.
I think you need to brush up on your behaviorism terms; in operant conditioning negative = removal and reinforcer = stimulus that increases the frequency of the preceding behavior.
Sure, outright whipping a horse so you could stop whipping it when it performs the desired behavior would most likely create a fearful horse but aversive stimuli don't have to be harsh, just less desirable than another option the horse could easily achieve; heck, halters and all the natural riding aids work by negative reinforcement.
A timeout would be an example of a negative punisher