Dancing Brave 1986 Prix de L Arc de Triomphe Inc Replay Listen to the english fans welcome him back

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  • 1st Dancing Brave 2nd Bering 3rd Triptych
    5th October 1986 Distance 1m4f Going Firm Course Longchamp
    Trainer Guy Harwood Jockey Pat Eddery

Комментарии • 155

  • @smilodontiger5675
    @smilodontiger5675 Год назад +58

    Would Dancing Brave have won the Derby with Eddery on him ? I say definitely yes.

    • @Gritto1445
      @Gritto1445 Год назад +3

      100%

    • @danielmarshall356
      @danielmarshall356 Год назад +5

      Nope would have made difference at that time of his career DB - they thought he wouldn’t stay band had to be held up and the track beat him

    • @issyjas3309
      @issyjas3309 Год назад

      He’s remembered more for losing it than if we won, scintillating in defeat. Horse didn’t know he lost

    • @darrenjohnbryant51
      @darrenjohnbryant51 9 месяцев назад +2

      By 20 lengths

    • @rajeshtlalwani
      @rajeshtlalwani 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes

  • @moyajanko6642
    @moyajanko6642 Месяц назад +10

    Still gives me goose bumps, in 2024.

  • @manafalmola318
    @manafalmola318 18 дней назад +7

    Dancing brave machine ❤ greatest horse of all time

  • @danielmarshall356
    @danielmarshall356 Год назад +26

    I watched this race at least-100 times and it never ever fails to give me goosebumps in the last 2f ….
    There’s a reason it’s voted thr best horse race of all time

    • @moyajanko6642
      @moyajanko6642 Месяц назад +2

      Only 100 times? XXX

    • @andrewblackie7170
      @andrewblackie7170 16 дней назад

      ​@@moyajanko6642:😂😅 I got passed that number in the 1st 5-6yrs after the Arc. Its just unbelievable the speed he finds & I'm absolutely 100% sure Gary Moore on Bering on the outside must've thought he had it won & did until the Furlong pole then realised he was on to a really bad hiding. Guy Harwood gave a brief interview about 3 hours before the race & said he had Dancing Brave as ready as he could get him & said " He'll win if he's within 2 lengths of the leaders at the 2 furlong pole" but the bookmakers must've missed that brief interview because giving that price I was STUNNED. I thought he'd be closer to Evens maybe 5/4 but because Bering smashed the track record in his previous race the bookies grew balls 😂 BUT the sacks emptied really quickly, the cash sacks.

  • @grav20
    @grav20 2 года назад +28

    The masterful Pat Eddery at his brilliant best. One of the best tactical rides ever in a top class race. Kept Dancing Brave out the back, out of trouble and then delivered him to perfection.

    • @andrewblackie7170
      @andrewblackie7170 16 дней назад +2

      But Oaksey commentating said he's to far back but expects Pat to move up gradually but he's tracking Bering so he's still hopeful 😂 Oaksey has been in racing for about 200 YEARS but Pat knew exactly how to ride the race, wide & late using The Braves jaw dropping speed to leave them behind.

    • @andrewblackie7170
      @andrewblackie7170 3 дня назад +1

      @@grav20 : The Wizard Pat Eddery knew how to ride a horse, they all say Pigott was the greatest jockey & why ? Was it because he won so many Derby's or so many classics & G1's ? Pat Eddery came into horseracing way after Pigott who won so many Derby's, Classics & G1's because he was riding all the best horses I.e For Vincent O'brien, Owners Sangster & Magnier. Pat Eddery won 4 Arc's in a row 85 Rainbow Quest, 86 Dancing Brave, 87 Trempelino, 88 Tony Bin 👏👏 Remarkable. R.I.P CHAMP 🙏

  • @chrisbrader7720
    @chrisbrader7720 8 месяцев назад +7

    A Rolls Royce of a Racehorse and Grevilles Nemesis sadly.

  • @Duhgood
    @Duhgood Месяц назад +3

    Wow wow absolutely perfect timing

  • @manuelsammy-lg1vl
    @manuelsammy-lg1vl 7 месяцев назад +9

    The horse with the best turnof foot i ever saw in my 45years in horseracing.

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um 5 месяцев назад

      No that would be golden fleece

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um 2 месяца назад

      @@manuelsammy-lg1vl wrong

    • @tiffa01
      @tiffa01 Месяц назад

      Spot on

    • @tiffa01
      @tiffa01 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@StephenSmall-sf5umpat eddery rode both and said dancing brave was the best he ever rode

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um Месяц назад

      @tiffa01 no he stated golden fleece was the best he ever rode

  • @roberto4001000
    @roberto4001000 2 месяца назад +5

    The brilliant dancing brave

  • @pauljackson2098
    @pauljackson2098 2 года назад +23

    Best ever arc ,wonder horse dancing brave

    • @smallsmalls3889
      @smallsmalls3889 Год назад

      Should've won the Derby but for a shocking ride.

  • @davewaldo1218
    @davewaldo1218 7 месяцев назад +9

    It will always be a shame that the best horse there's ever been, failed to win the Derby.

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um 4 месяца назад

      Best dont be stupid

    • @digeme69
      @digeme69 4 месяца назад +4

      @@StephenSmall-sf5um He was the best horse I've seen. Frankel was finally rated 2lb better than Dancing Brave by Timeform but didn't win over 1m 4f. For me DB was better. Possibly the likes of Sea Bird, Brigadier Gerard and Sea the Stars are on the same level but even if you don't think DB was the best he was very close to it.

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um 2 месяца назад

      @@davewaldo1218 that's because he wasnt the best

    • @MrMrdonpitbull
      @MrMrdonpitbull 2 дня назад

      @@StephenSmall-sf5um Only your opinion Stephen! Thousands upon thousands of people disagree. But we are all wrong, and you are right. Learn to concede graciously. You are the same on every post about DB. Go have a lie down and let us worship the brave in our own way! 61 yrs old here, and he is the greatest horse I have ever seen. By a mile Mr Small.......

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um 2 дня назад

      @@MrMrdonpitbull nope sorry he simply is not

  • @joegreen2750
    @joegreen2750 7 месяцев назад +5

    Probably the most star studded field ever in this race.

  • @joncaffrey8967
    @joncaffrey8967 2 года назад +18

    Pat eddery gave dancing brave the perfect ride a champion jockey 🏇 and masterclass the greatest jockey ever 👏

  • @mikedavies9953
    @mikedavies9953 11 месяцев назад +11

    The greatest ever ARC won by the greatest ever horse , he made multiple group 1 and classic winners look like handicapers

    • @spleeeen4it
      @spleeeen4it 2 дня назад

      Better than Frankel? Dream on

  • @neilhamilton5951
    @neilhamilton5951 14 дней назад +3

    What a fucking horse top class

  • @manuelsammy-lg1vl
    @manuelsammy-lg1vl 7 месяцев назад +7

    What a magnificent colt he was.

  • @paddyman33
    @paddyman33 Месяц назад +4

    Best horse Ive ever seen...and Im 62

  • @Funeeman
    @Funeeman Год назад +17

    This race featured an all star cast. The winner was undoubtedly the biggest star.

  • @Sgcs1975
    @Sgcs1975 Год назад +6

    what a horse . if he was within 3 lengths within the last furlong the race was done ,

  • @tonynaccarato4751
    @tonynaccarato4751 3 месяца назад +5

    Great horse, great jockey, great race, remember it vividly.

  • @darrenbaker6834
    @darrenbaker6834 Год назад +14

    This was the best arc there has ever been and ever will be..English and French Derby winners group 1 winners everywhere..Dancing brave for me was the best mile and halfer there has been.

    • @michaeldowd5545
      @michaeldowd5545 8 месяцев назад

      There were so many 125 plus horses in this.

    • @darrenbaker6834
      @darrenbaker6834 8 месяцев назад

      @michaeldowd5545 There was also a German horse that s cauthen rode called acatenango that had one all 19 races in Germany I know that don't amount to much but at the the time the jockey thought he had a good chance.depth of that race will never be seen again

    • @StephenSmall-sf5um
      @StephenSmall-sf5um 2 месяца назад

      @darrenbaker6834 would not of beat pentire celebre thee best arc winner after sea bird

  • @johndoe-qg7jp
    @johndoe-qg7jp Год назад +12

    Never get bored watching this.
    Eddery's a genius.
    I hate it when the frame changes when the brave overtakes Bering!
    The brave wins going away!
    What a freak!
    'Eddery's asking for everything"
    And Dancing Brave delivers!

    • @janinelarocco7184
      @janinelarocco7184 10 месяцев назад

      Eddery was not a genius in the Epsom when he gave Brave a bad trip.

    • @don__hector7845
      @don__hector7845 4 месяца назад

      @@janinelarocco7184 he didnt ride it that day greville starkey rode it!!!

    • @mikewatson5630
      @mikewatson5630 12 дней назад +1

      Not sure why someone thought Eddery rode dancing brave in derby .I remember backing sharistani 6/1 I think but lucky greville had a stinker.i could have ridden the beast to victory

  • @bregawn
    @bregawn 10 месяцев назад +7

    Has to be my favourite ever flat race

  • @IanOttaway-e5k
    @IanOttaway-e5k Месяц назад +2

    Still cant believe jow he won the arc in that manner.. hardly any win from were he was positionthat blistering turn of speed over the distance ive never seen before

  • @neilhamilton5951
    @neilhamilton5951 3 месяца назад +3

    What a race so many top class horses in this race probably the best arc de triomphe ever

  • @shanecopner7827
    @shanecopner7827 3 дня назад +2

    Probably the greatest arc ever

  • @ChristopherJohnson-ge5jy
    @ChristopherJohnson-ge5jy 9 месяцев назад +4

    What ahorse and ride

  • @RayHanson-nl8ce
    @RayHanson-nl8ce 4 месяца назад +2

    The greatest horse ever no matter what the pundits say the 1986 arc in my opinion the greatest race ever he beat the srongest arc ever look at the horses behind him deby winners past arc winner eddrey had trouble puling hom up i think he would have still one if he was carrying 7lbs extra ehst would of happened to his rattings as for starkey should not had listened to the trainer that day i forgive g starkey

  • @Gritto1445
    @Gritto1445 Год назад +8

    My favourite race ever.

  • @martinwilson2499
    @martinwilson2499 2 года назад +9

    pat was the greatest , rip

    • @jcharles8743
      @jcharles8743 Год назад +2

      Lester

    • @lukenewt1683
      @lukenewt1683 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@jcharles8743Lester was the Greatest Jockey who ever lived no doubt.

  • @Freddie-x4s
    @Freddie-x4s 9 месяцев назад +5

    Dancing Brave was a mile horse. to start Grenville Starkey rode the perfect race and to what he was told to do Greville Starkey never got over being blamed for the defeat in the Derby

    • @mikedavies9953
      @mikedavies9953 8 месяцев назад

      Dont think he was told to box him in on the rails

    • @danielmarshall356
      @danielmarshall356 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@mikedavies9953 never watched the race then??? He was on the outside all the time FFs under orders from harwood to be held up .. he didn’t handle Epsom

    • @mikedavies9953
      @mikedavies9953 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@danielmarshall356 So if he didnt handle epsom how did he end up with the fastest furlong in history , he was cramped for room 3 out thats why he didnt win

    • @selfemployedmortgagehub
      @selfemployedmortgagehub 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@mikedavies9953 3 furlongs out in the Derby he was on the wide outside. What are you talking about? Watch the race again

    • @mikedavies9953
      @mikedavies9953 7 месяцев назад

      @@selfemployedmortgagehub The race i watch see's Starkey give sharastani 20 lengths lead are you telling me Guy Harwood told him to do that? dont talk shite

  • @garymckee5182
    @garymckee5182 8 месяцев назад +8

    My all time favourite horse on the flat Greville slept in the Derby, and paid the price but I forgive him he had a bad day, and rode him brilliantly in previous races.

  • @alanfizzypop9607
    @alanfizzypop9607 3 дня назад +1

    What a turn of foot the brave had

  • @slickwillywize
    @slickwillywize Год назад +5

    highest rated performance ever

  • @neilhamilton5951
    @neilhamilton5951 14 дней назад +1

    What a field lots of group 1

  • @janinelarocco7184
    @janinelarocco7184 10 месяцев назад +3

    Redemption for his BRILLIANT loss in the Epsom.

  • @Keith-ks3ez
    @Keith-ks3ez Год назад +5

    Simply one of the best!,he suffered a lot of I'll health in retirement and spent his last days in Japan

    • @mrsilverbuck3181
      @mrsilverbuck3181  Год назад +3

      for me he will be int the top three of all time along with mill reef & Nijinsky

  • @martindoherty6855
    @martindoherty6855 4 месяца назад +1

    The worst camera work in the greatest ever race

  • @VilhelmHammershoi1666
    @VilhelmHammershoi1666 Год назад +3

    Grenville Starkey was sacked by the owners and trainer, his failure in the Derby personal i think he never got over

    • @digeme69
      @digeme69 4 месяца назад +3

      That is actually a common misconception as he rode DB twice more . Greville rode DB to victory in his next race the Coral Eclipse but then got injured and Pat took over for the King George. Greville then rode DB again in the select stakes at Goodwood before Pat took the ride in the Arc and the Breeders Cup. Khalid Abdullah wanted Pat for the Arc and it was his decision and Guy Harwood stood up for Greville after the Derby defeat. He continued to be the stable NO 1 jockey for Harwood and rode all the other horses in the yard with Tony Clark as the No 2

  • @myfrobert
    @myfrobert 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm still wondering what happened to DB in that Breeders Cup Turf roughly one month later which, I heard, made him mocked and his legacy overlooked by some Americans? Should he simply had never gone there?

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 14 дней назад +1

      The track didn't suite him. I thought it was going to be a mistake. He'd had a hard enough season

  • @williamthompson6372
    @williamthompson6372 Год назад +4

    Sad day for racing when the lowered Dancing Braves best ever international rating of 141 to 138, just so Frankel could be top, fact is even at 138 he was higher rated than Frankel as a 3 year old 136, Dancing brave never raced as a 4 year old. When you think he was a very late fole he was amazing. Wonder what they will do now Flightline is rated 140...😅 all great horses.

    • @mikedavies9953
      @mikedavies9953 10 месяцев назад +5

      Frankel would not have got within 5 lengths of Dancing Brave over 1.4m

    • @michaeldowd5545
      @michaeldowd5545 9 месяцев назад +2

      Frankel Not as a 3 yo. Frankel probably as a 4yo.
      But the fact is the top 7 or 8 in this are all better than any horse that Frankle raced against.Think about it.

    • @markchapman2933
      @markchapman2933 2 месяца назад

      Dancing Brave has always been Timeform 140, always will be. Frankel was 143 as a 3 year old and 147 as a 4 year old.
      Dancing Brave might have been capable of better had he raced as a 4 year old, so would plenty of others - but fact is they didn't run at 4. Dancing Brave disappointed final start at 3, so had he raced on may well of run to less than he did at 3. And any horse could be capable of better form than it's actually shown, it's just not in the form book so cannot be rated that way. Dancing Brave beat better horses but not by as far as Frankel.

    • @spleeeen4it
      @spleeeen4it 2 дня назад

      ​@@mikedavies9953, and Frankel would have left dancing brave tailed off over a mile and quarter so what's your point?

    • @mikedavies9953
      @mikedavies9953 День назад

      @@spleeeen4it Haha don't be a tit, Dancing Brave Blitzed Champion Sprinter Green Desert over mile , Frankel never had anywhere near the quality of competition DB had

  • @ronaldmasters4031
    @ronaldmasters4031 5 месяцев назад +2

    I was there to witness something astonishing, the finishing speed from Dancing brave was never in any doubt of victory once Pat moved to the outside, I won a whopper that very special day, he should have won the derby easily but the late G. Starkey misjudged the race,

  • @padraigohooligan8363
    @padraigohooligan8363 6 месяцев назад +2

    Whenever a jockey decides to ride a horse so far back in the field, he increases the chances of various things happening which might prevent his horse winning. Top jockeys have come a cropper in big races when they were held up at critical points - it happened to the best of them, including Piggott on Nijinsky and Park Top, both in the Arc.

  • @danturnbull9732
    @danturnbull9732 10 часов назад

    What a disgrace lowering Dancing Braves rating from 141 to 138 just so Frankel can be top rated Dancing Braves would destroy Frankel over 1 and a half mile Dancing Braves. The greatest
    6:21

  • @andrewblackie7170
    @andrewblackie7170 16 дней назад

    Oaksey "I expect Pat to move up gradually BUT I'm hopeful still" & that's a man who's been in horseracing for about 200 years. Pat Eddery rode him to perfection & rode him to come wide & late. Pat Eddery has been in horseracing for about 10-11 yrs & knows how to ride the horse, he did the same in the King George. Oaksey time to retire, you're BRAINDEAD!!😂

  • @davidwallace6031
    @davidwallace6031 Год назад +3

    Well done to the cameraman for focusing on dancing brave as he accelerated😂😂😂

    • @MrMrdonpitbull
      @MrMrdonpitbull 2 дня назад

      What an absolute prat he was! Had a wad on Bering obviously,lol. Still get the shivers watching this awesome horse.

  • @darrenhaskins4535
    @darrenhaskins4535 День назад

    In my opinion the second best flat horse of all time only 1 Better Frankel

  • @jcartist835
    @jcartist835 Год назад +3

    The Top Jockey Pat Eddery

  • @paddyperna5730
    @paddyperna5730 3 дня назад

    even the horses he beat were legends... its so exciting to hear the emotion that this horse evoked, and so sad that these days it hardly ever happens anymore....p.s... great commentators too...

  • @EugenePritchard
    @EugenePritchard 6 часов назад

    What about sea the stars arc

  • @issyjas3309
    @issyjas3309 4 месяца назад +1

    Still takes the breath away even with lousy camerawork

  • @keithjones6602
    @keithjones6602 Год назад +5

    I would not let this camera man film me on a donkey at Blackpool

    • @williamthompson6372
      @williamthompson6372 9 месяцев назад

      He was focussing on bering the French unbeatable horse, 🤔 till Dancing brave left him for dead.

  • @leroyosborne5546
    @leroyosborne5546 3 месяца назад

    Pat Eddery should of won the Derby on El Gran Senor 2 years earlier rode a bad race which he had admitted to.

  • @salvatorelegrottaglie4241
    @salvatorelegrottaglie4241 3 месяца назад +3

    Best ever

  • @michaeldowd5545
    @michaeldowd5545 Год назад +1

    The fact is Hukum 2023 king George winner might not make the top 10 in this

  • @countbasi4680
    @countbasi4680 Год назад +5

    You're a star for posting this. I had it on VHS for years til my flat got robbed..cleaned out! I had some great races on tape. Warning's comeback race after he got sick, Mtoto lots of his.

  • @glendockree9171
    @glendockree9171 10 месяцев назад +1

    My favourite and got friendly with Pat.

  • @waynequincy5695
    @waynequincy5695 3 месяца назад +1

    Harwood and Starkey combo is the most underrated in horse racing history, two fingers nuff said

  • @kevinkenny6975
    @kevinkenny6975 14 дней назад

    I was 21 and loved The Brave. I knew he was a great horse and was the best I've seen apart from Frankel although he never ran over 1 mile 4. I saw in the local paper the coach company was doing a trip to the arc. I was going to book but didn't get anyone to ho with me so i didn't bother. My biggest regret. Although i did eventually go to see Authorised run. Sadly he didn't win.

  • @johnnycarey1254
    @johnnycarey1254 3 дня назад +1

    He was the most unlucky loser of the derby but when you see el gran senor cantering into the last furlong it's impossible to think he'd lose

  • @waynequincy5695
    @waynequincy5695 3 месяца назад

    Starkey is God

  • @stuartgardiner3161
    @stuartgardiner3161 11 месяцев назад +3

    i first watched this 6 months ago im in nz, first of all what a race ive never seen a finish spread out like that,as for dancing brave he was flying,hes up there with frankel winx and black cavier etc.hes a champion.

  • @neilhamilton5951
    @neilhamilton5951 4 месяца назад +1

    Yes he was a brilliant horse 🐴 😊

    • @mrsilverbuck3181
      @mrsilverbuck3181  4 месяца назад +4

      for me he was the best i have seen thank you for comment

  • @WilliamMitchell-n7i
    @WilliamMitchell-n7i 4 месяца назад

    Our King 👑 Lester Would Have Obliged 👌

  • @RogerCross-ow3bw
    @RogerCross-ow3bw 7 месяцев назад

    I would have won on it