Gens are the reason I stopped playing this game. I played both sides to rank 1 but loved killer side more. Unfortunately The game just wasn't rewarding enough anymore on the killer side because of gen's
I have a streamer friend group who doesn’t always do gens and gets upset at killers if they don’t have fun or a personality. I play both sides and like to win and they say what I do is scummy.
That shouldnt be the case take a look at survivors perks worse than killer, at this point there will be no killers playing this game best putting bots in lol @cjames9320
When I play solo survivor, the only time we don't finish all the gens is when my teammates, for some unkown reason, start to cleanse random totems or searching for chests. Otherwise, it is usually a 4-man escape.
Yeah you have not missed much best off not playing this game so much sweat and toxic players not even worth it anymore the devs forget its 1 vs 4 not 4 vs 3 like texas chainsaw massacre, i hope this game gies this year it deserves it
@@Whobilation not true, make it about hooks not kills as tru said in loads of previous videos, but devs are stupid and dum dum if they want to kill their own game fair enough they have another game coming out anyway
@@Whobilation yep why not, also I think once their new game comes out they will stop doing content for dbd they have made their money it's time for the devs to move on.
I know this is a viewer build, but I know a perk I’ve used on Slinger that works well is Monitor. In fact monitor is amazing on most killers as long as it isn’t a swf
I’m stuck in low-mid MMR hell, thanks to “Hockey.” That’s the portion of this game where players are not efficient on gens. It’s 2024 where we have a whole HUD showing you the killer is on someone else, and you can still see with Bond and Open-Handed teammates just standing or crouched behind something, panning their camera. Wtf??
This is the crux of the issue! I can’t stand hearing survivors complain about how miserably difficult solo queue is. I’ve literally had dialogue with some survivors, where I explain, “yeah, it’s because neither you or your teammates are working on gens, when someone else is being chased! I mean, you can see who’s being chased on the HUD!”, and I’ll get responses like, “yeah, but working on gens is boring.” What?!? How do you not realize, that if no one works on gens, then at best, only one survivor is escaping??? WTF?
The problem with this game is the devs want to nerf gen defense but want survivors to escape freely, the devs are killing their own game at this point no love for killer which is a shame i do enjoy the game butnis going down hill quickly, if i was a dev i would neef gen speed and survivor perks make it balanced
@@Notj397 yep sad times for killer, I play both but prefer to play killer but the way this game is going goodbye killer, best replacing killer with a bot at this point
This is y i quit surviver has control o er the game not the killer debs clearly dont understand this isnt a horror game other wise players would be scared which they are not
@@Notj397removing the option to SWF then balancing the game for killers vs. solos would be ideal. Add on the removal of MMR and the return of pip to rank up, would make everything Utopia.
Honestly I think people find gen speed fine because just imagine if you are playing solo and your teammates have to try to be good but they can't and you have no objective done and it's just misery because you honestly don't control how your teammates play
And you can’t communicate with your team but it’s a catch 22 because open coms means that the low/mid level killers would essentially never kill more than 1 person which applies to the majority of the killer community who already try to win in the easiest way possible. I guess they should have tired to prioritize actually getting good at the game because now their perks are getting nerfed into the ground which I find hilarious as a solo queue main.
@@WhobilationYet, the majority of the survivor main community has never had to get better at the game. They’re awful. They know that the devs will just continue to balance for low mmr survivors, since they’re the majority of the player base. I play both roles, and survivor is far easier. The only reason solo teams lose is because they: a) have terrible movement in chase, b) don’t pay attention to the HUD, and work on gens, when someone else is in chase, and c) make stupid altruistic decisions, at the worst possible time.
honestly you should have camped #4 until she was dead, everyone was injured, and the best they will do at that point was an easy hook trade for you. at worst they would have finished 1 gen but now you got 3 injured ppl and 1 gen left. that could have snowballed in your favor.
I understand what he’s saying but bro what does he expect for everyone to just run around and do nothing so he can get free wins?? The objective for survivor is to literally do gens and escape.
You said you understood what he was saying, but in next sentence you completely denied any possibility that you actually comprehended what he was trying to say. You absolutely have no idea. You and understanding, is pure oxymoron.
Spends half the time at one end of the map, with a gen that doesnt matter instead of the middle where they are dense. Does nothing to directly run people off of a gen. "Gens go too fast".
Sorry but he coulda made it so easy on himself by staying at the hook at 8:36, there’s no way they would complete the gen and heal too before the girl on hook died and he reached the gens they were doing.
I mean your first down took almost 2 minutes because you chased around a bush trying to find someone for like 50 seconds straight… so yeah if I accomplish nothing in almost 2 mins then I would expect 3 gens to pop
He also got one single scourge hook the entire game, borderline playing with 3 perks and it still took 10 minutes for all 5 gens.. This community is becoming completely insufferable
And your point is what???? A killer can have 2 hooks all game and kill 3 people with noed at the end and it's a 75% kill rate but the killer actually got dominated. The kill rates are garbage data.
I think DBD is the healthiest it's ever been right now. Both sides certainly have more strategies / loadouts and Win conditions to play for than exist in Esports like Blizzard RTS games. Nobody is forcing either side to not be viable or competitive.
Yes it's the healthiest state of the game but it doesn't change that behaviour is still making some very questionable changes without a form of compensation at times. Not sure what you mean by the 2nd part since some killers do feel worse to play based on the skill of survivors and map at times. Also behaviour not giving the very weak killers anything to work with also kills their viability.
@@osi3718 You don't have to play a weaker killer. you can play nurse. That said, it's not like every killer isn't playable in Assymetrical pvp games can afford for either side to stomp the other without balance being wrong or the other side not having had their chances or scoring percentages. and playing to instigate and hit those win cons is a skill, if I may be so blunt.
The problem is that most of the killers are absolutely unviable on most of the maps... And map offering is a highly used stuff in the game. If the survivors has more than 30 IQ, they can do 3 gens during the first chase with a smart spread. I'm agree, the game is at the healthiest state, but still not enough sadly. And mentioning DbD and Esport/Competitive games in one setence is just insulting to real Competitive games. Even an RNG based Hearthstone game is more balanced and more competitive than this 50-50, checkspots DbD.
@@SheepEnlightener 3 gens in the first chase isn't neccessarily a problem. Can the killer massively slug or otherwise snowball? can the killer create a 3v1 and leverage strong perks? can the killer snowball in some way. etc. Complaining about efficient gens is like complaining that nurse exists. Granted survivor can obviously be toned down without ruining the game, but current survivor is about as fine as double range nurse was and that didn't exactly ruin the game either. There is a huge range of what is playable in DBD. And in my opinion, as someone with roughly 23k hours killer and 1k hours surv, game seems totally okay for both sides right now. You can make off meta work as both sides too.
@@smugwib in what world do you have 24k hours in this game, there's no chance you're pushing those hours and you're telling me this is a healthy game state lmao. WILD
Gens are the reason I stopped playing this game. I played both sides to rank 1 but loved killer side more. Unfortunately The game just wasn't rewarding enough anymore on the killer side because of gen's
I have a streamer friend group who doesn’t always do gens and gets upset at killers if they don’t have fun or a personality. I play both sides and like to win and they say what I do is scummy.
Best gen regression perks btw, and they’re still getting nerfed
Behvavior even said they're nerfing them solely because people use them often. Not because they're OP, just because they are used.
@@cjames9320 using no gen defense as killer at high mmr, you’re just asking to get tbagged at the gate
@@jonathanarellano8449 precisely
@@jonathanarellano8449 Time for survivor main’s to feast 😈
That shouldnt be the case take a look at survivors perks worse than killer, at this point there will be no killers playing this game best putting bots in lol @cjames9320
When I play solo survivor, the only time we don't finish all the gens is when my teammates, for some unkown reason, start to cleanse random totems or searching for chests. Otherwise, it is usually a 4-man escape.
I stopped playing this game 3 years ago and I’ve never been happier
Yeah you have not missed much best off not playing this game so much sweat and toxic players not even worth it anymore the devs forget its 1 vs 4 not 4 vs 3 like texas chainsaw massacre, i hope this game gies this year it deserves it
I feel like there’s no point in even worrying about them making the game balanced it will never happen
You could remove survivor’s from the game entirely and Killers would still find a way to tunnel/camp so it’s watever at this point.
@@Whobilation not true, make it about hooks not kills as tru said in loads of previous videos, but devs are stupid and dum dum if they want to kill their own game fair enough they have another game coming out anyway
@@michaelferguson4939 That’s fine, just add bot killers to the game and survivor’s will be fine. At least I’ll actually get chased for once.
@@Whobilation yep why not, also I think once their new game comes out they will stop doing content for dbd they have made their money it's time for the devs to move on.
@@michaelferguson4939you on about the game What The Fog or whatever it’s called?
You see, the problem is you didn't kill all the survivors within the first 30 seconds of the game, so clearly a skill issue.
I know this is a viewer build, but I know a perk I’ve used on Slinger that works well is Monitor. In fact monitor is amazing on most killers as long as it isn’t a swf
and even the good gen defense perk - Pain Res - is so shit sometimes that you only got to use it once because of hook distance
Use agitation perk I don’t run pain res without it otherwise your asking to at some point get cucked by hook distance
@@Flicky800 I get it, but then what a shitty gen defence perk that it needs another perk slot wasted just to use be able to use it in the first place
I’m stuck in low-mid MMR hell, thanks to “Hockey.” That’s the portion of this game where players are not efficient on gens. It’s 2024 where we have a whole HUD showing you the killer is on someone else, and you can still see with Bond and Open-Handed teammates just standing or crouched behind something, panning their camera. Wtf??
i feel you brother happens in solo queue a lot
This is the crux of the issue! I can’t stand hearing survivors complain about how miserably difficult solo queue is. I’ve literally had dialogue with some survivors, where I explain, “yeah, it’s because neither you or your teammates are working on gens, when someone else is being chased! I mean, you can see who’s being chased on the HUD!”, and I’ll get responses like, “yeah, but working on gens is boring.” What?!? How do you not realize, that if no one works on gens, then at best, only one survivor is escaping??? WTF?
And then everyone wonders why people stop playing "you complain a lot, pressure more"
The problem with this game is the devs want to nerf gen defense but want survivors to escape freely, the devs are killing their own game at this point no love for killer which is a shame i do enjoy the game butnis going down hill quickly, if i was a dev i would neef gen speed and survivor perks make it balanced
Yeah they got no love for survivors, survivors definitely needs some buffs
@@Notj397 yep sad times for killer, I play both but prefer to play killer but the way this game is going goodbye killer, best replacing killer with a bot at this point
Playing without gen defence is the ultimate challenge in DBD now 😅
This is y i quit surviver has control o er the game not the killer debs clearly dont understand this isnt a horror game other wise players would be scared which they are not
Killers are too strong, killers actually need to be nerfed dude.
@@Notj397Didnt know today was opposite day
@@Notj397 nice troll
@@sevendaystocry2546 not really, killers always dominate. EZ 4ks against solo survivors all the time dude.
@@Notj397removing the option to SWF then balancing the game for killers vs. solos would be ideal. Add on the removal of MMR and the return of pip to rank up, would make everything Utopia.
This is why I let survivors escape every game. I don't want to play the game Tru3 is forced to play, so I just enjoy chases and let everyone escape.
Honestly I think people find gen speed fine because just imagine if you are playing solo and your teammates have to try to be good but they can't and you have no objective done and it's just misery because you honestly don't control how your teammates play
And you can’t communicate with your team but it’s a catch 22 because open coms means that the low/mid level killers would essentially never kill more than 1 person which applies to the majority of the killer community who already try to win in the easiest way possible. I guess they should have tired to prioritize actually getting good at the game because now their perks are getting nerfed into the ground which I find hilarious as a solo queue main.
@@WhobilationYet, the majority of the survivor main community has never had to get better at the game. They’re awful. They know that the devs will just continue to balance for low mmr survivors, since they’re the majority of the player base. I play both roles, and survivor is far easier. The only reason solo teams lose is because they: a) have terrible movement in chase, b) don’t pay attention to the HUD, and work on gens, when someone else is in chase, and c) make stupid altruistic decisions, at the worst possible time.
Can’t wait for this next patch haha, solo queue bout to go crazy
you just got bad scourge rng, it happens, plus on every newer map the survivors can just shift W to a strong main building
honestly you should have camped #4 until she was dead, everyone was injured, and the best they will do at that point was an easy hook trade for you. at worst they would have finished 1 gen but now you got 3 injured ppl and 1 gen left. that could have snowballed in your favor.
I understand what he’s saying but bro what does he expect for everyone to just run around and do nothing so he can get free wins?? The objective for survivor is to literally do gens and escape.
You said you understood what he was saying, but in next sentence you completely denied any possibility that you actually comprehended what he was trying to say. You absolutely have no idea. You and understanding, is pure oxymoron.
Spends half the time at one end of the map, with a gen that doesnt matter instead of the middle where they are dense. Does nothing to directly run people off of a gen. "Gens go too fast".
Sorry but he coulda made it so easy on himself by staying at the hook at 8:36, there’s no way they would complete the gen and heal too before the girl on hook died and he reached the gens they were doing.
Draw, and you missed about 50% of shots. I'd say that's fair
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Gens are fine stop crying
I mean your first down took almost 2 minutes because you chased around a bush trying to find someone for like 50 seconds straight… so yeah if I accomplish nothing in almost 2 mins then I would expect 3 gens to pop
are you AI?
He also got one single scourge hook the entire game, borderline playing with 3 perks and it still took 10 minutes for all 5 gens.. This community is becoming completely insufferable
Simple nerf gen speed when a survivor comes off a gen it regresses same with exit gate you want to 99% it nope it will regress that's what I would do.
@@michaelferguson4939 so you want default ruin in the game? Lmao. Think about how completely overpowered that would be
@@TheWam316 well the devs are bringing a new game out so they will move on from this. Yeah I would do that should have been done ages ago tbh.
killer win rates are like 68% though
And your point is what???? A killer can have 2 hooks all game and kill 3 people with noed at the end and it's a 75% kill rate but the killer actually got dominated. The kill rates are garbage data.
Dbd is surv sided, but only if you’re good enough to take advantage of it, so when people it’s a killer sided game, it’s literally a skill issue
win rates dont reflect this game at all.. following that logic nurse needs a buff and sadako is OP xd
@@jonathanarellano8449 Dbd is killer sided
Well firstly the kill rates are not 68%, that's wrong. Kill rates are also heavily flawed by a multitude of factors as well.
I think DBD is the healthiest it's ever been right now. Both sides certainly have more strategies / loadouts and Win conditions to play for than exist in Esports like Blizzard RTS games.
Nobody is forcing either side to not be viable or competitive.
Yes it's the healthiest state of the game but it doesn't change that behaviour is still making some very questionable changes without a form of compensation at times.
Not sure what you mean by the 2nd part since some killers do feel worse to play based on the skill of survivors and map at times.
Also behaviour not giving the very weak killers anything to work with also kills their viability.
@@osi3718 You don't have to play a weaker killer. you can play nurse. That said, it's not like every killer isn't playable in Assymetrical pvp games can afford for either side to stomp the other without balance being wrong or the other side not having had their chances or scoring percentages.
and playing to instigate and hit those win cons is a skill, if I may be so blunt.
The problem is that most of the killers are absolutely unviable on most of the maps... And map offering is a highly used stuff in the game. If the survivors has more than 30 IQ, they can do 3 gens during the first chase with a smart spread.
I'm agree, the game is at the healthiest state, but still not enough sadly.
And mentioning DbD and Esport/Competitive games in one setence is just insulting to real Competitive games. Even an RNG based Hearthstone game is more balanced and more competitive than this 50-50, checkspots DbD.
@@SheepEnlightener 3 gens in the first chase isn't neccessarily a problem.
Can the killer massively slug or otherwise snowball? can the killer create a 3v1 and leverage strong perks? can the killer snowball in some way. etc.
Complaining about efficient gens is like complaining that nurse exists. Granted survivor can obviously be toned down without ruining the game, but current survivor is about as fine as double range nurse was and that didn't exactly ruin the game either.
There is a huge range of what is playable in DBD.
And in my opinion, as someone with roughly 23k hours killer and 1k hours surv, game seems totally okay for both sides right now.
You can make off meta work as both sides too.
@@smugwib in what world do you have 24k hours in this game, there's no chance you're pushing those hours and you're telling me this is a healthy game state lmao. WILD