I don't think he was really complaining I think he was just showing the drawbacks that you would have to deal with. I think most people wouldn't put the sigma 18-35 1.8 on a full frame but it's nice to be able to see what the results would be. He's specifically mentioned about how during during 4K recording some cameras crop in and for video I have heard time and time again this lens produces amazing results including cinema cameras. So if you have a full frame and find a used one on a good deal and are mainly focused towards video but take pictures as well you can make a better decision on weather it would be worth it to you. Another reason this is great is if you're considering buying the sigma for a crop sensor camera and are weighing options because you may one day upgrade to full frame and trying to decide if its worth it to have more drawbacks now by buying a full frame lens that sometimes isnt as ideal (higher f stop and sometimes is said to be less sharp on a crop sensor camera) or is it more ideal to go with an ideal lens for you crop now that will also work with full frame but you have to deal with some drawback. For me personally I have highly considered the Sigma 18-35 for my crop sensor but have plans to upgrade to full frame, If I knew I was going with a cannon 5D mark 4 or a sony or canon mirrorless It would probably be a really great option, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a Canon 5d mark 3 so this lens would work for all that much so a wiser choice would probably be to buy a full frame lense or purchase an efs lense like the 17-55 and just plan to resell once I make the jump to full frame. Another option I've really highly considered is the and in 24-105 f4 because of price, range, and fixed focal length so it would work for video and be a great full fram lens but I'm having a hard time deciding on weather the compromises are worth it(I wish it was a tad wider and a little better for low light but has been a strong consideration. So far I'm between the 24-105 f4 and the 17-55 2.8 I really like the sigma but I think I would take the higher f stop for a little more range.
if u have a crop body .. then sigma 18-35 and sigma 50-100 F1.8 will give the quality of the full frame and more .. im enjoying using them with ma m6 ii more than my 5d iii ..
Great video guys : )) The Sigma 18-35 and the 50-100 are pretty much the only two crop sensor lenses that can give you Full Frame results. You still need to multiply the Aperture by 1.6 and get 2.88 full frame equivalent but this is basically where any full frame bright apperture zoom starts from. I used them on my 70d for years. I switched to the EOS R and got the 16-35 f2.8L II and in terms of resolution the results are almost identical. If you own a full frame camera stick to the Canon unless you will shoot 4k with a crop or enter crop mode which drastically lowers your resolution. The Sigma is a great lens and it was way ahead of its time in my opinion it could easily handle a 40MP crop body.
I have the canon eos r also and i use the 16-35 at 1080. I want to start shooting in 4k. Should i purchase a sigma 18-35 and use it while I’m shooting things in 4k?
Yes the 1.8 doesn’t change. The only thing he’s saying is the relative aperture at the same exact distance is higher because the crop sensor has a higher depth of field with all the settings the same. I don’t recommend anyone multiply the aperture because if you are using a super 35 sensor camera, your overall framing is going to be different. If you use a comparable lens that equals the same focal length, they will have the same exact look.
I just bought a new Sigma 18-35, I use it for stills photography and after a few photos I took, I'm very happy with my decision to purchase this lens. I'm using it on my canon 70d and it's perfect! Very sharp lens!!!
@@djdecap1 the jump in image quality over many other lenses is noticeable right away. Your camera will want to let more light in so your iso will stay low and your dynamic range will be greater due to the low ISO. I can even see the difference in my viewfinder framing the shot. 👍
The crown should easily go to Sigma. Everyone loves this lense. It is almost legendary... Built quality and performance more than well enough... f1.8 constant. And so much cheaper... :)
I was using a 50mm 1.2 on a used 6D Mark 1 I got for 500$ It was a loaner and I use it for my business, couldn’t deal with the kit lens. It’s just trash can. The 6D is superb in quality on its own so it helped with the Kit lens. Found a Sigma for 400$ I couldn’t pass it up. Yes the vignetting is a tad bothersome, however you can definitely work around it if you have understanding. Super sharp lens! Very creative.. it has texture. So to all the FULL FRAMERS don’t be afraid of it. You can utilize it!
I like the comparison of the canon name brand vs sigma it really gives you perspective on how much you get for what price. Right now I'm thinking about what lens would be best for me, right now I'm fairly certain I'm going to go with a Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 is USM Lens. It's much better than my kit 15-45mm and provides all the right qualities for good video, although the pictures could be a little better I don't think many people would notice the very minor discoloration or sharpness changes in a full photo with it. I'm mainly sold on it for the smooth, silent and fast auto focus in video mode.
The Sigma was one of my first non-kit lens I brought when it first came out. Stellar lens. Now use it on my Canon 5D4 for the 4K crop. Perfect match. Also just replaced my 70D with a 90D. Can now unleash the 32mp sensor on the 18-35mm.
@@Itsyaboy88 honestly bro I didn’t get the calibration dock yet. Been lucky. It’s still tack sharp and I’ve had it since 2015. Guess I should get one since I do plan to get another Sigma. They really stepped up their optical game.
I used sigma 18-35 since 3 years and its fantastic adapted with mc11 in Sony a6500 and Sony a7lll for video and works great the only downside in crop mode in a7lll you loose some sharpness .
I own the 18-35, and I love it!! Absolutely stellar image quality. But then I do not own a full-frame camera, and as wonderful as the Sigma is, you really shouldn’t buy it unless it’s for an APS-C camera, I think. By the way, US prices are always very low: When I bought the Sigma, I paid 4995kr which is about $780, including taxes. Now the price is 6395kr or about $1009. The Canon 16-35 for comparison is around 15000kr or $2366.
@@razvit that's the one i want i just want a lens that i can put on my camera and i start taking pictures right away so far I'm hearing a lot about the 24-70 and the 16-35 and the 50mm prime lens i really want like 4 lenses no more than that
@@johnthomas3941 The difference between the mark i, ii, and iii is mostly sharpness in the center/corners. So anything is OK, it depends on how much you crop and how big you want your prints. I make landscape photos and I only have 16-35 and 70-200. It covers landscape needs. I got an extra 50mm but that's mostly for portraits. Also keep in mind that 80d has an ASP-C sensor. So a 50 mm would be like a 75mm and a 16-35 would be like a 24-50mm. It's like that with all EF lenses except for the EF-S special ones.
Honestly my main hang up is the IS for video, which is why I’d sacrifice the extra F stops and go for the f4L IS. But I am curious if this Sigma lens would do a decent job handheld filming video.
I really appreciate this video, deciding whether I need to spend the extra money is always a struggle. Now that I know how well the sigma holds up, I can happily save hundreds of dollars
I got to know which one is better and which one would work better on my canon 80d i keep hearing about this L glass but i want something that i can take pictures in the rain
this was such an informative video! i just purchased the sigma lens and based on this video, very happy with my purchase!! my only qualm is the sound of the autofocus, even with a rode videomic pro. but thinking i can get a lapel mic to help with that.
Completely blow away at the results at 2:48 and makes me wonder if the sigma was really at f2.8, that dof is so much better. Arguably a selling point of the cannon is that is can be used on ff. The ef can be found for $900 used and the sigma $500 used so not that much of a difference but interesting tests! Appreciate the time you took to put into this!
This is a tricky one for me. I own the Sigma already, but travel to Europe often and Sigmas are a hassle to drag around because of their weight, and I love the colors/look of the Canon much more... but that price tag 😵💫... might need to check out the f/4
For the difference in price I'd say that the Sigma is the way to go! You could buy some extras (like filters) or even another lens with the money you save 📸
Buying Sigma 18-35 without Canon 16-35 seems cheaper and more efficient and there is no difference in image quality from each other but Sigma is brighter and has 1.8 strengths Thank you so much, it helped
That 18-35 on a crop is actually a 36-70mm and this makes it perfect for wide shots and portraits and that canon is like a iPhone, yes it might have better software than andriod? But u can get a good andriod that can give u what u want and save money and make the sacrifice
the canon seems to have much more dynamic in the bokeh, the sigma looks washed out and darker in blurry areas, or was that due to lighting changes? 3:03
I just got bouth of Them. I think the sigma is alot sharper in the corners. 😮 But with a speedbooster I can get a wider field of view - if I want. So dont know which one to keep. 😢😢
I have a Canon 80d and i want a great lens that i can use for all of my shots. My brother have the 16-35 and the 24-70 and the 70-200 he said i need to buy all 3 of these lenses. Well i wanted to know your opinion on these lenses cause i want to buy me all 3 of these lenses okay.
the canon glass is obviously slightly superior, but if you're a beginner photographer, you'll likely have a crop sensor camera anyway, and the sigma is just the better value for money. no way the canon in that cas is worth almost triple the price. you might argue that the canon will hold it's value longer when you do graduate and switch up to a full frame camera, but honestly the sigma to this day is still worth as mucht (maybe more) as when it came out. so you'd have no problem selling it for a respectable sum and upgrading to another lens anyway. also, with all the evolution in mirrorless technology nowadays and sensors becoming increasingly more precise, you'd probably be better off ugrading to premium glass.
I use the Sigma on my EOS R for video.. 4k OR 1080 .. doesnt matter.. The trick I do is when I want 1080p, I use Full Frame read out, and the digital Stabilization on max and the vignette is gone due to the Stabilization Crop and I can run at F1.8.. You cant get that sort of stability with the 16-35 without sacrificing the wide aspect of it as well ( like the sigma).. So for me, the sigma is faster and cheaper and built like a dam tank ..
Such a well-made and thorough video. Thanks! Made me think that sometimes saving up is good. I think the vignetting is a dealbreaker for me, but I’m still learning. One day I’m going to upgrade to a full-frame camera. I’ll do more research, learn how to navigate DSLRs more, and up my knowledge in general. That’ll help me make my decision. Content like this is definitely clutch. I’ll revisit this. I’ll need more videos for sure! Thank you!
you forgot to mention a really big factor and thats weight. I own the sigma one and it has never left my house. It is just too heavy! However, it is my go-to lens for my youtube videos. I guess it all depends what you are using it for
Follow up: I bought the sigma 18-35mm, I also have the Canon 17-55mm 2.8/f IS. Comparing Sigma 18-35mm vs Canon 17-55mm, I would say the Sigma feels better built maybe a touch sharper and the zoom and focus rings are much much smoother (this is after my Canon was serviced by Canon 2 times). I don't worry about dust being sucked into the lens Like I do with the canon. The biggest negative that everyone knows about is no IS, and this is a huge factor when considering the Sigma. As for "missed" or "soft" focus. I would say missed focus are close, with sigma missing a few more, around 10-15% more misses wide open.
@@Troy_Sent_A_Message Yeah the lack of IS is something to consider with the Sigma, especially for video. We're thinking that it's not TOO huge of a factor since is a wider lens. But couldn't agree with you more on the build quality! It feels really good to hold
So here is my issue... Have a Sony a6000 and a Canon 6D Right now can only use mostly my a6000 and I was wondering if I should get a Sigma lens for both cameras to use with an adapter For example Sigma 18-35. Or thinking the other option: to get 2 lenses would be a Sigma 16mm f. 1.4 and a Rokinon 85mm manual focus for the Canon and Sony I think it would be almost the same price either way but sure what I should do or get to do great photography and videos anyway
The second option sounds great actually. But have you tried renting and doing a dry run first? there's an online place where you can rent from photographers for really cheap called sharegrid.
@@UNPLUGProductions thanks! I am definitely considering the 2nd option the most as well, just to have versatile on both cameras and they can actually complement each other, even though the sigma would be only for my Sony I think is the best option to have a wide angle on a budget
From our test and we didn't add that. It's really base on what camera you own. It's a known fact that mirrorless is better in low light when it comes to DSLR and Sony is way better in low light situations.
I am planning on buying the upcoming Canon Eos R6. (Full Frame Camera). Is there an alternative for the sigma 18-35mm? I don't want to spend 3K on the 16-35mm of canon... and the crop is a no-go for me on the sigma :(
Sigma has the 24-35mm f2, which doesn't have the same reach, but is the closest to the 18-35 on full frame. I'm considering this lens for the R6, or perhaps get a Sigma 24-70mm f2.8.
i have another question which one is better to have 50mm 1.8 or the 50mm 1.4 or do i buy the both of them or i only need one help me out cause they're cheap. my next door neighbor have a camera bag with 10 lens in it and he said he spend over 25,000 dollars and i was holding my head i think i only need 4 lens and call it a day. i can buy an expensive lens and don't know how to use it then i'm screwed and i don't waste money like that. here's what people are telling me they said i need a 24-70 f2.8 17-50 f2.8 and 50mm 1.8 and 18-35 f1.8 cause i already have a zoom lens. remember now my camera doesn't have video so i will get another camera that can shoot video and i will have lenses already.
@@UNPLUGProductions well they're both 50mm lenses but maybe i just need one and not 2 of them. i wanted like 4 lenses 18-35mm 10-18mm 17-50mm and the 50mm i mean that's good for me right i don't need all those lenses like some of these professionals be using. i just want a lens that i can take good pictures in low light situations group photos portraits and landscapes. i would love one camera that can do everything so help me out
@@UNPLUGProductions my wife is going to buy me my first lens off amazon so she told me ask you which one is better to get the 50mm 1.8 or the 50mm 1.4 please let me know before she leaves and i appreciate your help and knowledge
@@UNPLUGProductions I have an R6. Because of your comment I’ll go Canon. Who doesn’t want to save 50%? Unless it’s going to lead to regret…… thank you.
Hey Jacks! The vignetting is very subtle on the Sigma but we see what you're talking about. To be more specific, we used the XL .64x Speedbooster on the GH5.
The T3i footage & photos doesn't look that bad, I own and use the camera for all of my projects, yet the quality isn't nearly as bad as shown here ??? I use a 50mm f1.8 which is 5x cheaper than the Sigma lens and it looks fine af?!
Excellent info. Advice. I just purchased a Canon M6 Mark ll. I want mainly want to use it to shoot a series that I’m writing. Maybe four to six episodes in length of 23 to 25 minutes long. I want to start with two lenses (maybe a 3rd used one)and shoot around their capabilities. My list includes Sigma 16mm or Sigma 30 mm and a vintage, used 35 mm I know I need a zoom lenses (which may knock out the need for the others). I know there are a lot of variables. But what are you thoughts for a lense or lense range I really should have to shoot a short film? Preferably in the $300 to $600 range.
We definitely recommend a 24-70mm or a 35mm. We use that a lot for filming. If you want to look for something that does close-ups, then 85mm is the best option.
I know this was an af test at 5:34 but looking at the skin tone, the canon looks so much better. Almost as if it was two different cameras with more dynamic range on the right. Could that really just be the lens?
So far that is my biggest complaint of the Sigma Art series. I picked up an old Canon 80-200 F2.8L lens and that lens is tastefully sharp and has amazing skin tones on my GH5 and XL Speedbooster.
Canon 16-35 f 2.8 ii does not cost 1800 cakes .....because there is version 3 this one was discontinued ......and second hand goes as low as 600 euros.
i plan to use the sigma 18-35mm, not for vlogging f=but for film, do you mainly use autofocus when filming, heard its noisy, i guess ill film mostly manual focus, but i rely sometimes for it to auto focus, like panning from an object to a person, hope this does well, i have a gh5. i plan to get one :D
Did you end up getting the Sigma? If you have a GH5 we can't recommend you rely on the focus tracking simply because... well, it's not what the GH5 is known for, haha! But we've filmed events ENTIRELY on the sigma and the image looks great! If your aperture is at a good place, between 2.8 and 4, you might be able to get away without having to refocus your shots (obviously depends on what you're filming)
What would you choose for shooting video in a small bedroom the EF 16-35 mk II or the 16-35 f4? or would you recommend another lens instead? I am currently shooting on a 200D, but I'm thinking maybe I will upgrade to the EOS R in a few months, so I think maybe I should get a full frame lens instead of a crop sensor lens. Please help if you can.
Hey Lee! Now that the R5 is out, we'd love an update on your choice! Not sure if it helps now, but for shooting in a small bedroom, a higher aperture might be your best bet to allow as much light in as possible. But it really depends on what you're trying to film. Obviously if it's something like a real estate video, you want as much light as you can gather, but if you're shooting an intimate narrative with controlled lighting, then an f/4 might be your choice
For sure, but we DID mention this a couple times in the video. Totally agree with you that the Canon has an advantage with its full frame capabilities. So full frame camera users have some stuff to think about before they buy the Sigma
Putting APS-C lens on FF body and complaining about vigneting :-) :-) :-)
Yeah it doesn't really make sense.
yeah bro.. absolutely.. hmmm
That's exactly what I was thinking!
I don't think he was really complaining I think he was just showing the drawbacks that you would have to deal with. I think most people wouldn't put the sigma 18-35 1.8 on a full frame but it's nice to be able to see what the results would be. He's specifically mentioned about how during during 4K recording some cameras crop in and for video I have heard time and time again this lens produces amazing results including cinema cameras. So if you have a full frame and find a used one on a good deal and are mainly focused towards video but take pictures as well you can make a better decision on weather it would be worth it to you. Another reason this is great is if you're considering buying the sigma for a crop sensor camera and are weighing options because you may one day upgrade to full frame and trying to decide if its worth it to have more drawbacks now by buying a full frame lens that sometimes isnt as ideal (higher f stop and sometimes is said to be less sharp on a crop sensor camera) or is it more ideal to go with an ideal lens for you crop now that will also work with full frame but you have to deal with some drawback.
For me personally I have highly considered the Sigma 18-35 for my crop sensor but have plans to upgrade to full frame, If I knew I was going with a cannon 5D mark 4 or a sony or canon mirrorless It would probably be a really great option, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a Canon 5d mark 3 so this lens would work for all that much so a wiser choice would probably be to buy a full frame lense or purchase an efs lense like the 17-55 and just plan to resell once I make the jump to full frame. Another option I've really highly considered is the and in 24-105 f4 because of price, range, and fixed focal length so it would work for video and be a great full fram lens but I'm having a hard time deciding on weather the compromises are worth it(I wish it was a tad wider and a little better for low light but has been a strong consideration. So far I'm between the 24-105 f4 and the 17-55 2.8 I really like the sigma but I think I would take the higher f stop for a little more range.
@@pinkfiffty3094 its not drawback, when a company making boat and then people cant ride it on road and complain about it ,
With 1400$ different, I can sacrifice ❤
Sigma 18-35mm my favorite
if u have a crop body .. then sigma 18-35 and sigma 50-100 F1.8 will give the quality of the full frame and more .. im enjoying using them with ma m6 ii more than my 5d iii ..
I had the 18-35mm for years. Gave my 70D to my sister and got the 90D. Thinking about getting that 50-100mm to take advantage of the new 32mp sensor.
Really great video. It's impressive Sigma made such a good lens that can compete with Canon while being significantly cheaper.
bro i wish everyone did comparisons like this....bomb video man
Thank you brotha. Will do more
Great video guys : )) The Sigma 18-35 and the 50-100 are pretty much the only two crop sensor lenses that can give you Full Frame results. You still need to multiply the Aperture by 1.6 and get 2.88 full frame equivalent but this is basically where any full frame bright apperture zoom starts from. I used them on my 70d for years. I switched to the EOS R and got the 16-35 f2.8L II and in terms of resolution the results are almost identical. If you own a full frame camera stick to the Canon unless you will shoot 4k with a crop or enter crop mode which drastically lowers your resolution. The Sigma is a great lens and it was way ahead of its time in my opinion it could easily handle a 40MP crop body.
Awesome info thank you Martin
I have the canon eos r also and i use the 16-35 at 1080. I want to start shooting in 4k. Should i purchase a sigma 18-35 and use it while I’m shooting things in 4k?
Martin . on a super 35 Red komodo is the sigma 18-35mm 1.8 still a 1.8 ?
Yes the 1.8 doesn’t change. The only thing he’s saying is the relative aperture at the same exact distance is higher because the crop sensor has a higher depth of field with all the settings the same. I don’t recommend anyone multiply the aperture because if you are using a super 35 sensor camera, your overall framing is going to be different. If you use a comparable lens that equals the same focal length, they will have the same exact look.
I just bought a new Sigma 18-35, I use it for stills photography and after a few photos I took, I'm very happy with my decision to purchase this lens.
I'm using it on my canon 70d and it's perfect! Very sharp lens!!!
Does the Sigma 18-35mm a lot sharper than the 18-55mm kit lens?
@@TechHints can't even compare them.
It's premium glass vs cheap plastic kit lense.
Do you not have autofocus issue? Mine does when using the viewfinder on my canon 700d, it focuses perfect with live view tho
@@irishjay9485 I have canon 77d, but I don't usually use the viewfinder.
Can i please have a link to your work
I use 70d also
I just purchased the R7 and my sigma 18-35 f1.8 art works just fine. Camera IS working fine!
Just got my Sigma today to pair with my R10. Haven't done anything with yet, but looking forward to it.
@@djdecap1 the jump in image quality over many other lenses is noticeable right away. Your camera will want to let more light in so your iso will stay low and your dynamic range will be greater due to the low ISO. I can even see the difference in my viewfinder framing the shot. 👍
The crown should easily go to Sigma. Everyone loves this lense. It is almost legendary... Built quality and performance more than well enough... f1.8 constant. And so much cheaper... :)
Allows you to use lower iso.
I was using a 50mm 1.2 on a used 6D Mark 1 I got for 500$
It was a loaner and I use it for my business, couldn’t deal with the kit lens. It’s just trash can. The 6D is superb in quality on its own so it helped with the Kit lens. Found a Sigma for 400$ I couldn’t pass it up.
Yes the vignetting is a tad bothersome, however you can definitely work around it if you have understanding. Super sharp lens! Very creative.. it has texture. So to all the FULL FRAMERS don’t be afraid of it. You can utilize it!
That's awesome to hear
Thanks dear it’s great video for who’s searching best lens ....!
Uh Isaac up here lol 😂
Vigneting because you are using full frame 😂🤣🤣
I like the comparison of the canon name brand vs sigma it really gives you perspective on how much you get for what price. Right now I'm thinking about what lens would be best for me, right now I'm fairly certain I'm going to go with a Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 is USM Lens. It's much better than my kit 15-45mm and provides all the right qualities for good video, although the pictures could be a little better I don't think many people would notice the very minor discoloration or sharpness changes in a full photo with it. I'm mainly sold on it for the smooth, silent and fast auto focus in video mode.
That's awesome Austin! We know some creators who swear by the 17-55 so it's gonna be a great lens to have in your arsenal
The Sigma at 2.8 seemed to have more light transmission.
The Sigma was one of my first non-kit lens I brought when it first came out. Stellar lens. Now use it on my Canon 5D4 for the 4K crop. Perfect match. Also just replaced my 70D with a 90D. Can now unleash the 32mp sensor on the 18-35mm.
Can you use it as a photo lens as well? Or just as a 4K video lens?
how are you liking the 90d with the sigma? just picked up a 90d thinking about getting this lens
@@Itsyaboy88 it’s glued to the 90D. Rarely change it and I have many lenses. Highly recommended.
@@rumporridge1 literally just bought it 15 minutes ago! i appreciate the response. How was your calibration? was it a bitch?
@@Itsyaboy88 honestly bro I didn’t get the calibration dock yet. Been lucky. It’s still tack sharp and I’ve had it since 2015. Guess I should get one since I do plan to get another Sigma. They really stepped up their optical game.
I used sigma 18-35 since 3 years and its fantastic adapted with mc11 in Sony a6500 and Sony a7lll for video and works great the only downside in crop mode in a7lll you loose some sharpness .
Also one thing in sigma you can go very close like macro with the minimal focus distance.
Thank you so much for the video, you helped me to decide for my next step
The 18-35 Sig was my first purchase of a quality lens. With calibration its a top notch portrait lens for crop sensors.
Got both lenses! They are incredible both of them. I use the canon on my ff camera and the sigma on my bmpcc6k
I just liked the video right after you said u we’re trying an APSC camera... They exist!! 😂 ✊🏿
I have two Sigma 18-35mm 1.8. I really love it
It's an incredible lens!
I own the 18-35, and I love it!! Absolutely stellar image quality. But then I do not own a full-frame camera, and as wonderful as the Sigma is, you really shouldn’t buy it unless it’s for an APS-C camera, I think.
By the way, US prices are always very low: When I bought the Sigma, I paid 4995kr which is about $780, including taxes. Now the price is 6395kr or about $1009. The Canon 16-35 for comparison is around 15000kr or $2366.
WOW that's crazy to know. Thanks for sharing this info
Hmmm, I think you guys are thinking about the mark iii version of the canon lens when talking about prices but in the video it's the mark ii
So which one should i buy the price doesn't matter to me i just need a good camera lens for my canon 80d that my daughter gave me for my birthday
@@razvit that's the one i want i just want a lens that i can put on my camera and i start taking pictures right away so far I'm hearing a lot about the 24-70 and the 16-35 and the 50mm prime lens i really want like 4 lenses no more than that
@@johnthomas3941 The difference between the mark i, ii, and iii is mostly sharpness in the center/corners. So anything is OK, it depends on how much you crop and how big you want your prints. I make landscape photos and I only have 16-35 and 70-200. It covers landscape needs. I got an extra 50mm but that's mostly for portraits. Also keep in mind that 80d has an ASP-C sensor. So a 50 mm would be like a 75mm and a 16-35 would be like a 24-50mm. It's like that with all EF lenses except for the EF-S special ones.
Helpful and informative comparison video! Thank you, good luck and keep creating!
I really wanted your conclusion. Both are good it’s not what I was looking for
Honestly my main hang up is the IS for video, which is why I’d sacrifice the extra F stops and go for the f4L IS. But I am curious if this Sigma lens would do a decent job handheld filming video.
You are sacrificing the dof look as well
You should just get the 24-70 F2.8 OS, it's better than the sigma 18-35 in every way
18-35 w/ GH5, of course
Thanks
Great video! What are your thoughts on the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 (which has no image stabilization) versus the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8? Thanks!
I got fucking shookth for a second. When the camera tilted up I thought you were The Game Theorist with a beard...
Dude I wasn't paying attention when you were adjusting aperture and thought there was a cricket in my room
lol
I really appreciate this video, deciding whether I need to spend the extra money is always a struggle. Now that I know how well the sigma holds up, I can happily save hundreds of dollars
Glad we helped you make a decision! Enjoy that lens
Been doing a loooot of research with that sigma lens! Thank youuu! 🙌🏻
Glad we were able to help you with your decision!
Damn, thats a good comparising! one love!
Thanks so much!
I was thinking of getting the Sigma with the Canon EOS 90D for vlogging to replace my old Rebel T3i! Good choice?
same here ..but m pretty broke
I love this video! ❤❤ i want to start using my Canon 80D for TikTok beauty videos, would you recommend the Sigma?
I got to know which one is better and which one would work better on my canon 80d i keep hearing about this L glass but i want something that i can take pictures in the rain
this was such an informative video! i just purchased the sigma lens and based on this video, very happy with my purchase!! my only qualm is the sound of the autofocus, even with a rode videomic pro. but thinking i can get a lapel mic to help with that.
That's awesome to hear. Tag us with what you create with the lens.
Completely blow away at the results at 2:48 and makes me wonder if the sigma was really at f2.8, that dof is so much better. Arguably a selling point of the cannon is that is can be used on ff. The ef can be found for $900 used and the sigma $500 used so not that much of a difference but interesting tests! Appreciate the time you took to put into this!
Thank you for your feedback and tips on the used lenses.
sigma 18-35 1.8 is a beast specially for video
We LOVE that lens!
Fantastic video! Very instructive!
Excellent video. That was a great comparison. Pls make more of such informative content. Subbed
Thank you
Crazy how I was struggling to choose between these two and I found this video. You even try them on the camera I own!
Awesome to hear that. Hope we helped.
This is a tricky one for me. I own the Sigma already, but travel to Europe often and Sigmas are a hassle to drag around because of their weight, and I love the colors/look of the Canon much more... but that price tag 😵💫... might need to check out the f/4
For the difference in price I'd say that the Sigma is the way to go! You could buy some extras (like filters) or even another lens with the money you save 📸
100% The canon did show some advantages over the Sigma! Whichever lens you choose to go with, both are a great choice
@@UNPLUGProductions True!
Also you can buy sigma 16mm 1.4 so sharp!
Definitely will get the sigma for my t7i lol
total game changer
Enjoy that lens! it's a beast
Can I use the sigma for canon 70d ?
Buying Sigma 18-35 without Canon 16-35 seems cheaper and more efficient and there is no difference in image quality from each other but Sigma is brighter and has 1.8 strengths Thank you so much, it helped
That 18-35 on a crop is actually a 36-70mm and this makes it perfect for wide shots and portraits and that canon is like a iPhone, yes it might have better software than andriod? But u can get a good andriod that can give u what u want and save money and make the sacrifice
For a landscape photography with a fullframe, the sigma gives me a lot of noise in the corners ?
Yeah it does.
thnx for saving my money👊👊👊
Is it normal to hear tracking noise on Sigma when using with crop-censor camera? I use 700D and the noise is too much.
the canon seems to have much more dynamic in the bokeh, the sigma looks washed out and darker in blurry areas, or was that due to lighting changes? 3:03
I just got bouth of Them. I think the sigma is alot sharper in the corners. 😮 But with a speedbooster I can get a wider field of view - if I want. So dont know which one to keep. 😢😢
Btw.. I kept Them bouth :P
I have a Canon 80d and i want a great lens that i can use for all of my shots. My brother have the 16-35 and the 24-70 and the 70-200 he said i need to buy all 3 of these lenses. Well i wanted to know your opinion on these lenses cause i want to buy me all 3 of these lenses okay.
Keep uploading the videos guys! They really informative, Loves it!👍
We're gonna keep it going!
the canon glass is obviously slightly superior, but if you're a beginner photographer, you'll likely have a crop sensor camera anyway, and the sigma is just the better value for money. no way the canon in that cas is worth almost triple the price. you might argue that the canon will hold it's value longer when you do graduate and switch up to a full frame camera, but honestly the sigma to this day is still worth as mucht (maybe more) as when it came out. so you'd have no problem selling it for a respectable sum and upgrading to another lens anyway. also, with all the evolution in mirrorless technology nowadays and sensors becoming increasingly more precise, you'd probably be better off ugrading to premium glass.
I have decided to take the middle ground and go for the Canon f4
Not a bad choice either! Glad this video helped you in your decision 👍
I use the Sigma on my EOS R for video.. 4k OR 1080 .. doesnt matter..
The trick I do is when I want 1080p, I use Full Frame read out, and the digital Stabilization on max and the vignette is gone due to the Stabilization Crop and I can run at F1.8..
You cant get that sort of stability with the 16-35 without sacrificing the wide aspect of it as well ( like the sigma)..
So for me, the sigma is faster and cheaper and built like a dam tank ..
Such a well-made and thorough video. Thanks! Made me think that sometimes saving up is good. I think the vignetting is a dealbreaker for me, but I’m still learning. One day I’m going to upgrade to a full-frame camera. I’ll do more research, learn how to navigate DSLRs more, and up my knowledge in general. That’ll help me make my decision. Content like this is definitely clutch. I’ll revisit this. I’ll need more videos for sure! Thank you!
Appreciate this video! Informational, right to the point and solid comparison tests for both lenses side to side. Thank you
Glad you liked the video!
you forgot to mention a really big factor and thats weight. I own the sigma one and it has never left my house. It is just too heavy! However, it is my go-to lens for my youtube videos. I guess it all depends what you are using it for
Yes! The Sigma lens is a bit heavier and we figured that was assumed when we mentioned that it feels more "robust." But yes! Sigma is heavier for sure
Full frame lens vs crop sensor lens. 🤷🏽♂️
yeah pretty much huh
Awesome comparison I´ll go for the Sigma :D
Glad we were able to help you make a choice! Enjoy the Sigma
great video
sorry but in 5:56 in which way canon is doing better? cos i see sigma looks more sharpy and better!!!
That's awesome to hear that Sigma is sharper. We would love to see the images you shot :)
Comparing focus and zoom ring smoothness, quietness. What one was the smoothest and quietist?
Follow up: I bought the sigma 18-35mm, I also have the Canon 17-55mm 2.8/f IS. Comparing Sigma 18-35mm vs Canon 17-55mm, I would say the Sigma feels better built maybe a touch sharper and the zoom and focus rings are much much smoother (this is after my Canon was serviced by Canon 2 times). I don't worry about dust being sucked into the lens Like I do with the canon. The biggest negative that everyone knows about is no IS, and this is a huge factor when considering the Sigma. As for "missed" or "soft" focus. I would say missed focus are close, with sigma missing a few more, around 10-15% more misses wide open.
@@Troy_Sent_A_Message Yeah the lack of IS is something to consider with the Sigma, especially for video. We're thinking that it's not TOO huge of a factor since is a wider lens. But couldn't agree with you more on the build quality! It feels really good to hold
So here is my issue...
Have a Sony a6000 and a Canon 6D
Right now can only use mostly my a6000 and I was wondering if I should get a Sigma lens for both cameras to use with an adapter
For example Sigma 18-35.
Or thinking the other option: to get 2 lenses would be a Sigma 16mm f. 1.4 and a Rokinon 85mm manual focus for the Canon and Sony
I think it would be almost the same price either way but sure what I should do or get to do great photography and videos anyway
The second option sounds great actually. But have you tried renting and doing a dry run first? there's an online place where you can rent from photographers for really cheap called sharegrid.
@@UNPLUGProductions thanks! I am definitely considering the 2nd option the most as well, just to have versatile on both cameras and they can actually complement each other, even though the sigma would be only for my Sony I think is the best option to have a wide angle on a budget
Great video as always guys!
Thanks Stan! Your content is always fun to watch as well!
What about low light performance?
From our test and we didn't add that. It's really base on what camera you own. It's a known fact that mirrorless is better in low light when it comes to DSLR and Sony is way better in low light situations.
Thank you for the vignetting-issue. I now consider the Canon 17-40 f/4.0 or the 16-35 f/4.0 with IS.
Power bro.
I am planning on buying the upcoming Canon Eos R6. (Full Frame Camera). Is there an alternative for the sigma 18-35mm? I don't want to spend 3K on the 16-35mm of canon... and the crop is a no-go for me on the sigma :(
Sigma has the 24-35mm f2, which doesn't have the same reach, but is the closest to the 18-35 on full frame. I'm considering this lens for the R6, or perhaps get a Sigma 24-70mm f2.8.
I’m doing the same. Trying to find the right lens for the R6
i have another question which one is better to have 50mm 1.8 or the 50mm 1.4 or do i buy the both of them or i only need one help me out cause they're cheap. my next door neighbor have a camera bag with 10 lens in it and he said he spend over 25,000 dollars and i was holding my head i think i only need 4 lens and call it a day. i can buy an expensive lens and don't know how to use it then i'm screwed and i don't waste money like that. here's what people are telling me they said i need a 24-70 f2.8 17-50 f2.8 and 50mm 1.8 and 18-35 f1.8 cause i already have a zoom lens. remember now my camera doesn't have video so i will get another camera that can shoot video and i will have lenses already.
We would go for 1.4 because it's better glass. But both are awesome lenses.
@@UNPLUGProductions well they're both 50mm lenses but maybe i just need one and not 2 of them. i wanted like 4 lenses 18-35mm 10-18mm 17-50mm and the 50mm i mean that's good for me right i don't need all those lenses like some of these professionals be using. i just want a lens that i can take good pictures in low light situations group photos portraits and landscapes. i would love one camera that can do everything so help me out
@@jeremypinder4436 yes just get 1x 50mm
@@UNPLUGProductions my wife is going to buy me my first lens off amazon so she told me ask you which one is better to get the 50mm 1.8 or the 50mm 1.4 please let me know before she leaves and i appreciate your help and knowledge
Now that these can be found for roughly the same priced used, I wonder if the Canon is the obvious choice? I still cant decide lol
We go canon all the way
@@UNPLUGProductions I'm realizing now It's actually the L II not III. But I'd assume the verdict still stands. Thank you!
@@UNPLUGProductions I have an R6. Because of your comment I’ll go Canon. Who doesn’t want to save 50%? Unless it’s going to lead to regret…… thank you.
Thanks so much for the info.Too bad i I can't use sigma since am a full frame user.
Ugh! We know that vignetting is such a deal breaker for so many users
I wonder about image stabilization
Both of them have no IS! :))
@ thanks ;)
Nice
You can't really compare them or take the price as an argument. The canon lens is a full frame lens. The sigma is for aps-c only - unfortunately.
Why does his sigma vignette here? I use mine on the gh5 with speedbooster ultra and I have never seen vignetting
Hey Jacks! The vignetting is very subtle on the Sigma but we see what you're talking about. To be more specific, we used the XL .64x Speedbooster on the GH5.
The T3i footage & photos doesn't look that bad, I own and use the camera for all of my projects, yet the quality isn't nearly as bad as shown here ??? I use a 50mm f1.8 which is 5x cheaper than the Sigma lens and it looks fine af?!
T3i is a great camera. Thank you for sharing
Excellent info. Advice. I just purchased a Canon M6 Mark ll. I want mainly want to use it to shoot a series that I’m writing. Maybe four to six episodes in length of 23 to 25 minutes long. I want to start with two lenses (maybe a 3rd used one)and shoot around their capabilities. My list includes Sigma 16mm or Sigma 30 mm and a vintage, used 35 mm I know I need a zoom lenses (which may knock out the need for the others). I know there are a lot of variables. But what are you thoughts for a lense or lense range I really should have to shoot a short film? Preferably in the $300 to $600 range.
We definitely recommend a 24-70mm or a 35mm. We use that a lot for filming. If you want to look for something that does close-ups, then 85mm is the best option.
Amazing review. Surprised this channel has few subscribers
Thank you so much. We just started and I think it's because we are not consistent.
This helped me so much! Subbed thank you
Glad we were able to help you! Hope you come back for more content from us
did u get sigma ?
Canon 🤘
Good useful review man🔥😎
Glad you liked it!
1200$ is ALOT more for only a "SLIGHT" difference in performance....... The choice is obvious.......
Amazing content i really hope your channel grow
We do too!
Great video.. one question what camera / lens used for the studio talking part? Thanks 😊
We filmed the talking head with a Sony a7iii and a Tamron 24-70 mm ^_^
I know this was an af test at 5:34 but looking at the skin tone, the canon looks so much better. Almost as if it was two different cameras with more dynamic range on the right. Could that really just be the lens?
Yes we concur
So far that is my biggest complaint of the Sigma Art series. I picked up an old Canon 80-200 F2.8L lens and that lens is tastefully sharp and has amazing skin tones on my GH5 and XL Speedbooster.
sigma 18-35 is the legendary lens of all the time
It's INCREDIBLY popular. We're glad to have it in our arsenal, haha
1:47 Facts! 😂
Man your video is awesome what's the main camera you used in this video
When we filmed me talking to the camera? That was filmed on Sony
Canon 16-35 f 2.8 ii does not cost 1800 cakes .....because there is version 3 this one was discontinued ......and second hand goes as low as 600 euros.
Thank you for letting us know. Much appreciated.
Maybe not where you are, but I was just on Best Buy and they’re selling it for $1899.99 USD
@@MsNaturalBeauty7 They probably changed the price after we made the video.
What about R5 R7?
i plan to use the sigma 18-35mm, not for vlogging f=but for film, do you mainly use autofocus when filming, heard its noisy, i guess ill film mostly manual focus, but i rely sometimes for it to auto focus, like panning from an object to a person, hope this does well, i have a gh5. i plan to get one :D
Did you end up getting the Sigma? If you have a GH5 we can't recommend you rely on the focus tracking simply because... well, it's not what the GH5 is known for, haha! But we've filmed events ENTIRELY on the sigma and the image looks great! If your aperture is at a good place, between 2.8 and 4, you might be able to get away without having to refocus your shots (obviously depends on what you're filming)
What would you choose for shooting video in a small bedroom the EF 16-35 mk II or the 16-35 f4? or would you recommend another lens instead? I am currently shooting on a 200D, but I'm thinking maybe I will upgrade to the EOS R in a few months, so I think maybe I should get a full frame lens instead of a crop sensor lens. Please help if you can.
Hey Lee! Now that the R5 is out, we'd love an update on your choice! Not sure if it helps now, but for shooting in a small bedroom, a higher aperture might be your best bet to allow as much light in as possible. But it really depends on what you're trying to film. Obviously if it's something like a real estate video, you want as much light as you can gather, but if you're shooting an intimate narrative with controlled lighting, then an f/4 might be your choice
I can't believe you just have 2.4k subs
We just started but hopefully we can get more
@@UNPLUGProductions definitely you will.
It's not a fair comparison, one is full frame, the other is for APS C.
For sure, but we DID mention this a couple times in the video. Totally agree with you that the Canon has an advantage with its full frame capabilities. So full frame camera users have some stuff to think about before they buy the Sigma
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