Studio Speakers: Does narrow directivity (cardioid bass) affect treatment?

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    In my opinion there's one development in speaker system design that has largely been ignored by studio monitor companies:
    Matching speaker directivity to a given space.
    It's a little weird.
    Designers of big venue sound systems have been developing and refining this technique for about 30 years now.
    If you've ever looked at what they do you'll be excused to think us studio people are stuck in the stone age with our monitors.
    It's THE main technique they use to NOT have to do any acoustics and still squeeze the best sound out of a particular space.
    So why then haven't we seen this broadly adopted in the studio speaker industry?
    My guess: it's simply been too expensive both to develop and sell.
    It's also a very different use case so there's definitely a question to be raised about its applicability.
    So then how do some of the (few) recent developments in controlled directivity studio monitors fare when it comes to reducing the need for acoustic treatment?
    That's what I want to discuss in this week's video.
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Комментарии • 13

  • @simonbarth3181
    @simonbarth3181 2 месяца назад

    This is such an interesting topic! I thought about using 4 subwoofers to create a cardioid bass array in my studio and how that would work out 😅

  • @audiunt
    @audiunt Год назад +6

    I thought you were going to speak about Kii3 or Dutch & Dutch speakers. Very curious if these cardioid speakers leak less bass to other rooms and/or need less treatment. Dutch & Dutch will send you a demo pair for sure.

    • @MichaelRinus
      @MichaelRinus Год назад +2

      Besides those exciting and very good newcomers there’s also ME Geithain, who do that for many, many years with cases that kinda controlled leak Bass to the back to achieve the same. Downside: less volume, as you use the bass volume to mostly cancel out itself. There was a company called wvier who worked in acoustics and created unipolar woofers made of combinations of dipole and monopole woofer design in one box to handle that with still enough volume. On the other hand, simply buying e.g. Neumann speakers, who proudly and honestly provide all needed measurements, proving controlled directivity besides they don’t do it with the bass (woofers with DSPs instead nowadays), is a good start. I own a pair of O300 when they were still called Klein + Hummel and the starting point after proper (REW simulation supported) placement is already insanely good.

  • @simonbrook6185
    @simonbrook6185 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'd humbly suggest you listen to the Dutch & Dutch 8c... I think it'd convince you to get rid of most of the treatments.

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite Год назад

    It would be cool to see you and Erin’s Audio Corner put your minds together. I could listen to that for hours

  • @rodrigoraynor
    @rodrigoraynor Год назад

    Well I've spoken with Freddy from hedd audio about speakers , in my opinion the best way to get speakers for small rooms is use subwoofer to change de room mods patterns and olso give a chance to have small speaker to deal with mid bass and highs frequency , that setup allow how we can placed speakers in the room better, after so many years trying to fix some problems, is by far the best approach, but company's don't care about small system, and we need to configure out how to deal with that. Thanks for these great content, and I hope to meet you some day

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite Год назад

    I think the important take-away for dispersion patters is the off-axis response “fall-off” or slope is linear. It’s okay that it isn’t super wide, but having the off axis be a roller coaster will not be pleasant or accurate

  • @murraywebster1228
    @murraywebster1228 Год назад +1

    Been doing cardioid/end fire as long as I’ve been doing for live, and using electrostatics for mid top, basically line array with 30 x 4 degree dispersion…..

    • @jonathanknight8251
      @jonathanknight8251 Год назад

      Electrostatics for live venue?! I’d like to know more about that.

    • @murraywebster1228
      @murraywebster1228 Год назад +1

      @@jonathanknight8251 sorry misunderstanding there, talking about my mix and mastering studio, but I did favour Alcons Audio for live, think you missed the context of the first part of my sentence, been using cardioid in studio setups as long as I’ve been using it for live

    • @jonathanknight8251
      @jonathanknight8251 Год назад +1

      @@murraywebster1228 You’re right. Thanks for the clarification. Your approach for the studio makes sense. I use original Quads and horn speakers to evaluate equipment I’m developing, partially for the same reason.

  • @willb1157
    @willb1157 Год назад

    Thanks Jesco. Im one of the ones you helped
    And i’m trying to tell others about your courses, but it’s hard to not come across as insincere. But thanks man.

  • @lanarylie8780
    @lanarylie8780 Год назад

    *Promo SM* ✔️