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Konami Viper MAME Emulation Got Better! New Playable Games
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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On a few occasions I have talked about the Konami Viper arcade PCB and obviously my favorite game on the hardware...Thrill Drive 2! But whether you played Code One Dispatch, Police 911, Silent Scope or GTI Club...you had to own real arcade hardware because these retro gaming hidden gems did not emulate in MAME! Until today! Work has restarted on MAME arcade emulation for the Konami Viper...and some games are "playable" today! Retro games MAME glory time! Its big MAME news on the MAME emulation front.
and last week members of my Discord (Hydreigon223 and ZMXL5ON5) improved Konami Viper emulation in MAME with new control setups! So swing by the Discord if you want to help! (link below)
Last year I gave you a tour around the Konami Viper; a 3D powerhouse of an arcade PCB from Konami that ran on a PowerPC processor with 3DFX GPU hardware inside. It's like arcade hardware mixed with gaming PC hardware...so its def a PC Gaming video lolol. It is one of the last platforms that Konami used in arcades before switching over to PS2 hardware for arcade cabinets...and the real time clock chip LOVES TO FAIL! But like all things retro gaming...we can fix it! or now...emulate in MAME!
So now we can play Mocap Boxing, Thrill Drive 2, GTI Club 2...and more! A little video game history restoration for you all!
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That is exactly how lens flare should look. ;) But seriously, seeing these kinds of obscure hardware come back to life is some of the coolest things happening in software at the moment.
Viper is such a blind spot games wise for people too. Especially in North America. None of the games seemed to succeed here
@@VideoGameEsoterica I don't think I've ever seen any of the Viper games in Canada other than Silent Scope and 911
Impressive progress.
Lot of games finally playable. Rough but playable
Its a crime some (if not all) games on this platform never got ported. The track design in GTi Club 2 looks amazing.
At least Police 911 came home
@@VideoGameEsotericaAnd also Silent Scope EX within Silent Scope 3 for the PS2 and Xbox
@jodyposey9558 sadly no light gun support on PS2
@@VideoGameEsoterica Yeah, but only the first one did to the PS2, and sadly never came stateside though.
As far as Mame's progress is evolving the hardware emulation is getting better and better. ^^
Patience is a virtue. ^^
Nice to finally have some progress on Konami Viper emulation
We’re always working on it
This is amazing! I've been following the progress of the Viper's development and big updates like this gets me really excited. I really do want to thank all the talented developers for making all this progress. I can't wait to see the next set of improvements. Maybe a game will be fully playable and complete. :)
I’m glad it’s improving. I do love Viper
@@VideoGameEsoterica Such an underrated gem! I played two games I found in the wild and they are some of the most fun games I ever played. It rivals Sega in pure fun! I also played the PS2 port of Police 911. I played Slient Scope EX and Police 911 2 in arcades and I swear they are some of the best games I ever played. Especially Police 911 2
Konami made great games that sadly didn’t succeed so I’m glad people can re-examine them how
@@VideoGameEsoterica Same! I am so happy for these talented devs working on Viper games and the rapid progress! Can't wait for system 23 work
The progress is incredible!!!! Being able to play these racing games has been so much fun!
I’m glad more people can get to experience it now even if it’s not perfect
Great news.the video is amazing. I‘ve hoped for a long time that there will be progress in the viper emulation. I couldn‘t wait for the gameplay for GTI Club 2. fantastic news. I hope for an emulation in the next mame release
Should be in the next MAME!
It's absurd that Konami, Namco, and Sega don't have any compilation re-releases of 90's 3D arcade games.
I agree. I wish they’d do it
@@VideoGameEsoterica rights and lack of interest
Probably lost the source code too
I just love Konami Viper visuals for some reason. Similar to my love of Sega's Model 2 hardware visual and Namco's Super System 23.
It’s def a vibe and I love it too
Thank you so much for sharing these arcade emulation updates!!
Last I checked, Konami aside... Cruis'n Exotica, Namco's '95 Speed Racer, Ace Driver: Victory Lap and Jaleco's F1 Super Battle were the main racing games that caught my eye but weren't yet playable. And most non-Sega games have unemulated or very WIP networking.
Hopefully they all work eventually
I really want to say but I absolutely love how cartoony GTI Club 2 is! The whole bouncy, squash and stretch look to these cars! Konami did not have to make this game look so animated but I 100% appreciate it. It makes it look a lot more appealing! I'm especially impressed how Konami was able to make quite a cartoony looking game with weaker hardware than the Dreamcast and PS2! I love it and I'm all for it. Can't wait for it to be complete in Mame! I love to play basically Looney Tunes Fiats racing around Italy and causing trouble.
It really does feel like playing a cartoon. Like inspector gadget
Konami Inspector Gadget racing game is something I can get behind. I especially love the jumps and landing. It looks like it's from a Tom and Jerry short and I 100% love that.
@matthewrausch1837 you need to play Wacky Races then
@@VideoGameEsoterica Ok, Now I love a Wacky Races game on the Viper! Seriosuly! GTI Club 2 is Wacky Races in Italy. It reminded me of that cartoon. Minus the trolling dog but hey.
@@VideoGameEsoterica I heard of that game? Taito made it by any chance?
That GTI Club : Supermini Festa! is ALMOST chef's kiss. It has small issues but I would love to have that cabinet. I doubt anyone will put effort into seeing if they can port it to anything outside of teknoparrot.
Yes probably not a game many care about sadly
Can't wait to see Tsurugi - The Sword running!
Same. I’ve never played it. And I own it 🤣 (I’ve yet to find the parts to get motion controls working on my Viper boards)
I've played those mocap games before. They would present really well in VR, even if presented as just a 2D screen in space you punch at. But I can imagine writing a new engine for the assets that can keep the entire ring rendered and actually require you to turn as the player. I have none of the required coding ability, but I do see the opportunity for a very interesting modernization of the experience.
I need to get my Mocap Boxing working. As in controllable. Parts are not easy to come by
The more classic games playable, the better! 🎉
Hell yeah!
Driving Party's attract mode audio has been stuck in my head for years.
As it should be
You keep posting....love your reviews!
Glad you enjoy!
noticed this hardware uses a Voodoo 3/avenger equivalent I always wondered how Arcade devs got around the 16 bit color depth dithering. also since i may not be able to bring it up MIDWAY VEGAS HARDWARE if you look at the .ccp on mame dev and the PS2 specs they share a lot in common
The Vegas hardware is such a funny mess. One of the widest arcade board setups around in a pure gaming up space situation
Great news - keep us updated (am hoping the graphics rendering improves)
Next time it gets better there will be a new vid :)
If this approximates what Sega was going to end up with the Blackbelt, I'm thinking we didn't miss out on too much with them going the PowerVR route on the Dreamcast. Seems like we'd be in just about the same league of graphics fidelity.
Well you can’t discount the “Sega magic” that Konami could never muster the same way visually
@@VideoGameEsoterica but same time 3dfx was a mess of a company
Weird the way the cars go up on two wheels every time you turn 😂
That doesn’t happen when you drive?
I'm not a big fan of racing games but these look fun! I am eternally grateful to all the hard work emulation developers put in simply for the love of the game.
They are tons of fun
Another game to keep on my radar. Cool beans cool beans
Def play it. Tons of fun
Need to get our Thrill Drive 2 sorted lol
Such a good game
@VideoGameEsoterica - You said it was a "special" build of MAME, but I imagine that those fixes would be rolled in over time?
Yes once the merge is accepted it’ll end up in main
This is amazing!
I think so haha
Konami's NBA Play by Play and Racing Jam on mame still have some glitches, hope that gets upgraded soon.
Fingers crossed
A MAME related video, huzzah!
I do them now and again :)
Looking at this, it looks like they saw Code one Dispatch on the same board and went "We should make the drifting even more extreme!". I am not opposed to this.
Code One Dispatch is just insanely fun from start to finish
Totally reminds me of the original Italian Job
Very similar energy
Having fun as usual VGE. 8^)
You know it!
I wonder if beetle adventure racing was an actual arcade game or n64 exclusive...must research!
Would have been fun had it been a cabinet
It was an N64 game only…was specifically designed for n64 hardware with custom microcode.
@@yellowblanka6058 was such a fun game
This game would look great on a CD-R with a fancy box
🤣
Nice. Maybe I'll be able to play 3D games in Mame when I'm 80.
Send me a notification before I get to the graveyard, please.
There’s plenty of 3D games that work in MAME?
Very cool and shared
Glad you liked
still waiting for m2 and panic park but i doubt i wil lsee those playable in this life
3DO M2 works. It’s not perfect but I’d say it’s “playable”
I.. honestly hope someday some people throw this and the rest of viper (or maybe powervr based in general???) into standalone emulation and make the use of GPU somehow
But is faster to just upgrade my pc lmao
Thanks for the showcase and thanks mame team
That would be fun to see
Como se llaman esos juegos
I literally cannot get the steering wheel working on these. Calibration in the service menu appears to work fine. The Mame analog calibration menu shows the values you'd expect. I fire up TD2 and the steering wheel just veers violently to the left constantly :o/
Hmm what model are you using for controls? Did you go to the IO check menu and confirm the wheel is centered and only registers left/right movement when turning?
@@VideoGameEsoterica Tried dualshock and XBO controller. The IO check shows that only movement to the left is registered. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
And you calibrated in the game test menu? Where it goes leave wheel centered / then all the way to left / then all the way to right? Sounds like you missed one
@@VideoGameEsoterica I finally got the answer I needed in your Discord :) Turns out that one of the ROM variants doesn't calibrate properly (I think EBB?). When I got the AAA variant, everything works fine. I had a similar problem with GTI Club 2 - one of the variants has a steering issue so you can't select the mountain (leftmost) track!
Ahh yes I remember them talking about that
Any progress with Jurassic Park 3?
Some but not enough
Which version has these improvements? I don't remember any mention of Viper in the last 10 MAME version changelogs.
It’s a custom build members of my discord compiled and the build is on my discord
@@VideoGameEsoterica Oh, so this will be on the next official version of MAME then?
If the merge is accepted should be
@@VideoGameEsoterica where is the git?
Looks like it was accepted #12591. Thank you to developer Hydreigon
Hey, my Viper board (Warzaid, that you helped me turn into JP3 - thanks again!) doesn't have a heatsink on the CPU, should I add one?
100% add one. So many Viper boards die due to heat. I’d even add a fan to the chassis. I tapped 5V and popped a little noctua onto the case
@VideoGameEsoterica thanks sounds like a plan. My Neo Geo cab (used to be Mace the Dark Age) has a fan in it that's not being used, so I'll move that over
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Very cool
Hopefully more improvements soon
@@VideoGameEsoterica I will be hopping that too. Konami Viper have very cool games my friend
Cool!
Always fun
Is the Xtrail racing aa well in playable condition?
Yep :)
Wow I need to check it
Definitely do :)
I still don't get why MAME doesn't add optional GPU support. Wouldn't it make a lot of the more advanced 3D games work better?
Possibly. But MAME has gone so far down the CPU road moving portions to general compute on a GPU would not be a small undertaking
@@VideoGameEsoterica no because it's almost impossible to get gpu's to do work in there and they do for filters
you know what a really rare, unported and not emulated properly konami racer is? OverDrive. Just sayin
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Mame dev team should focusing on arcde games not competing retroarch
They are?
@@VideoGameEsoterica no, when i watched the progress of mame, i always found the progress of console emulation not arcade board like 3d arcade boars
@maqbross33 they’ve made plenty of improvements to boards in the last year
they seems focused on whatever they want, regardless of year waiting and/or bugs. there was a periodo where all they did was those plug and play,. then it was the tiger handhelds (which i actually enjoy, and now they stopped) and now they do ...uh....not known to the public
@@Zontar82 that was just haze read the change logs there is a lot more going on then what haze does