@@shemarmoore5292 pac sold 3.5 million records on me against the world in 95. So how would pac be last? In 96 pac had 2 number one albums and big was still Alive. So again how would pac be at the back of the line when he sold 10 million records while big was alive. Big didn't die until 97 15 million tupac sales before he died.
Jay was coming up before Pac died, Reasonable Doubt was killing it! So glad I was there so I don't have to rely on hate and bias. By the way... Jay dropped his first verse in 86' "HP Gets Busy" wayyy before Pac ever came out. Google it. Stop just listening to bias commentary. Also, look up DJ Clark Kent video on introducing Big to Jay.
It was more so when biggie died. No one paid attention to jay when big was ruling shit. Jay’s career was almost over before it started and then big passed and his fortunes changed. He was just a random rapper from New York at the time. Jay really blew up when he came out with “ can I get a” and that was off the strength of Ja Rule who was unknown at the time and Ja wrote the hook to the song.
Pac had to change his whole album because big copied it he came up with me against the world pac spoke on all this stuff early and big ain’t say a mumbling word
@@cassandraclark5499 how ? Tupac was not hard core, not a lyricist and a story teller . Biggie was ahead of his time which made New York niggas Wutang hating on him and later on they picked same style of which biggie
@Shemar Moore shemar you off base here, wu tang may have been hating on big cause of his album cover which was the same as nas debut but to say they copied biggie style is inappropriate.. wu tang had they own style and identity totally different from biggie and you said pac wasn't hardcore listen to under pressure off the thuglife album dropped in 94, not a lyricist check if I die tonight off the MATW album in 95, Not a storyteller check story about Brenda of his debut album in 91...I'm from NYC same age as big and I respect and appreciate his gritty NYC style but you don't have to put other great artists down to acknowledge big greatness cause his legacy can stand on its own (just a little food for thought)
Pac was Dissing Jay for Hawaiian Sophie Jay could say the same about him. He was a background dancer for Digital Underground.. Then he turned into Makaveli lol . Everybody gotta start somewhere.
JayZ mentioned in his Money Cash Hoes song that NewYork been soft every since Snoop came thru and crushed the buildings, and Mobb deep got on JaYZ ass about it😂
You mean the same mob deep that didn’t make any good music after takeover? You mean the same havoc that switch his whole style cuz jayz gave home that heat? You may say ether is better than takeover but takeover actually destroy a career. Prodigy really did go from top ten to not mention at all
JaYZ was Quiet as a Church Mouse when the EastCoast vs WestCoast beef was going on….that’s the Reason why Prodigy from Mobb Deep was beefing with JayZ about,
Jay was a nobody at the time. What could he have said and the people would have listened? He had no power at the time. If you was around then,then you would know.
Big used that same line “ kick in the door waving the 44” line on the junior mafia song “ get money “ before he turned it into a whole song on the “ life after death “ album
The name of Jay's 1st album was "Reasonable Doubt"...NOT "Dead Presidents". That was a single on the album. I'm telling y'all this old dude just rambles like old dudes do
Jay edited Big's verse, there is an old XXL article that says he took out a line where Big said "Most hated in California". Pretty sure it was from the Reasonable Doubt 10th Anniversary release. Being it was his debut album he didn't want to kill any potential sales on the west coast.
Karceno...what are you talking about Marcy is in Bed stuy....I'm from Philly and I know this...and it's always been quite deplorable....you don't know what your talking about......
JAY STATED THAT HE ASKED BIGGIE ABOUT GOING AT PAC, AND HE SAID BIG SAID NA IM NOT DOING THAT, SO THATS WHY HOV FELL BACK TOO. CENO JUST DONT LIKE JAY. RESPECTFULLY.
@@kapo2012fb I ain’t going to go there bro. Ceno is good people’s, seems to be man of character and has been in the Industry but on this one there was some erroneous stuff. Actually Wu Tang shouted Marcy out on the Wu Tang Forever album also. I am from the BX but grew up in East Orange NJ. The only reason I know about Marcy is because I had a ex that lived in Tompkins right down the street from Marcy.
CENO Need To Talk More About The Unreleased Diss Song 2Pac Has On Jay Z , Mobb Deep , Fugees , De La Soul , Big , When We Ride On Our Enemies , Fuck Friends , Lil Homiez , When Thugz Cry , All Out , Watch Ya Mouth , NY 87’ , Never Got To Officially Release But There All On RUclips Straight Fire 🔥🔥🔥🤦🏾♂️
Jay wasn't in the streets in Brooklyn AT ALL. Any work he did was out of town, small time drug dealing in other states. The drug game back then ran through the Gambinos. That was after Paul C was killed and they were heavy into drugs. Jay couldn't have done any big work at that time without their approval. Jay has always been talking more than he is actually doing.
@@GDSprodify Yeah, he might have done some work out there in DMV, but he was never in the streets in any part of NYC the way he says he was. It was a thing back then to go down south and buy for cheap, remember when Puffy stopped Biggie from doing that? But Jay was never in the streets in NY in any big way.
@@blackjesus2473 OK. But I'm really from Brooklyn and Jay Z wasn't a thing there. My family is in Brooklyn since the 1800s. Jay-Z was hired to write for Foxy, pushed DMX out of his label and developed this NYC hood persona that the White kids in the burbs really thought was hood.
@@thebettingpublicsportsshow I think most of his audience are either very young or stupid. Sometimes he be saying stuff that are straight cap 🧢 and no one checks him for it
First off big started after hov but people knew hov his rap style was just different but it’s no slight on hov because he’s from Marcy they get there just due
If Jay would have put that shit out back then Pac would have cooked Jay. Jay wasn't even hot at that time. For him to jump in that water with pac would have been suicide
People are always persecuting Jay for being smart. He knows how to move. A lot of these other guys are reckless and foolish. Being in the streets will not only ruin your career but end your life.
Everybody but P? Pac didn't diss everybody so why would they jump in? Well known lyricists there in NYC were alive and still in the rap game. So let's not make it seem as if they feared Pac. 🙄🤔
I firmly believe Jay would've sauced up, would he have won maybe, but he would've gave some great disses on Vol 1 for Pac and had tracks with Biggie if they both aint die.
So I’m watchin a rap city rerun from 1997 big lez guest are the lost boys on this episode and I haven’t saw a jay z video come on yet can somebody explain to me why is this?
@@lex_one-two Nah homie even if you don't like Jay you gotta give credit to where it's due. He is legendary just as much if not more than Big. In my opinion Pac is the goat though.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jay called a hit on Big. Yea, he looked up to him, but he would've remained a shadow. "He went from Jaz to Big to Eminem murdered him on his own sh--." lmao literally.
For Jay to be in cahoots with Puff knowing dam well he got Big smoked speaks volumes about him. Boy ain't built like nothing that's why he waited for the smoke to clear. Spooky nigra
Facts! Jay has said in interviews that Pac's aggression was too much to handle for most rappers go against.
Not for biggie because he was hot and real deal . If they were to be alive Tupac would last long in the industry
@@shemarmoore5292 pac sold 3.5 million records on me against the world in 95. So how would pac be last? In 96 pac had 2 number one albums and big was still Alive. So again how would pac be at the back of the line when he sold 10 million records while big was alive. Big didn't die until 97 15 million tupac sales before he died.
What about Chino XL or LL Cool J that made songs about Pac?
Jay z came up by default
When pac died facts.
Facts it left a spot open smh
Jay was coming up before Pac died, Reasonable Doubt was killing it! So glad I was there so I don't have to rely on hate and bias. By the way... Jay dropped his first verse in 86' "HP Gets Busy" wayyy before Pac ever came out. Google it. Stop just listening to bias commentary.
Also, look up DJ Clark Kent video on introducing Big to Jay.
He Was Tryna Look Like Him Too With the Bald Head in da Dead Presidents video
It was more so when biggie died. No one paid attention to jay when big was ruling shit. Jay’s career was almost over before it started and then big passed and his fortunes changed. He was just a random rapper from New York at the time. Jay really blew up when he came out with “ can I get a” and that was off the strength of Ja Rule who was unknown at the time and Ja wrote the hook to the song.
@@xv02greedo37No he wasn't, yall just finding reasons to hate on Jay again...smh.
Big was working on "Life after death" at the time of Pac's death... NOT "Ready to die". This dude is all over the place
Man you know Ceno do the homework and that's what he meant..don't look to hate and disagree all the time damn..
Pac had to change his whole album because big copied it he came up with me against the world pac spoke on all this stuff early and big ain’t say a mumbling word
You must not have been following up on what he’s saying 😂
@@cassandraclark5499 how ? Tupac was not hard core, not a lyricist and a story teller . Biggie was ahead of his time which made New York niggas Wutang hating on him and later on they picked same style of which biggie
@Shemar Moore shemar you off base here, wu tang may have been hating on big cause of his album cover which was the same as nas debut but to say they copied biggie style is inappropriate.. wu tang had they own style and identity totally different from biggie and you said pac wasn't hardcore listen to under pressure off the thuglife album dropped in 94, not a lyricist check if I die tonight off the MATW album in 95,
Not a storyteller check story about Brenda of his debut album in 91...I'm from NYC same age as big and I respect and appreciate his gritty NYC style but you don't have to put other great artists down to acknowledge big greatness cause his legacy can stand on its own (just a little food for thought)
Pac was Dissing Jay for Hawaiian Sophie Jay could say the same about him. He was a background dancer for Digital Underground.. Then he turned into Makaveli lol . Everybody gotta start somewhere.
Digital Underground was cool and funky. Hawaian sophie was corny
Jayz didn’t even exist during when pac was on top…but let the goat rest in peace bro
JayZ mentioned in his Money Cash Hoes song that NewYork been soft every since Snoop came thru and crushed the buildings, and Mobb deep got on JaYZ ass about it😂
n the fact...he aint never call out the west himself...
That's a fact
@@3xdope418 super facts
You mean the same mob deep that didn’t make any good music after takeover? You mean the same havoc that switch his whole style cuz jayz gave home that heat? You may say ether is better than takeover but takeover actually destroy a career. Prodigy really did go from top ten to not mention at all
Nah Prodigy got in Jay-Z ass 😂
Hiphop not same since Pac and Biggie demise. Pac #1 artist in the game. Now the music 🎶 and Hollywood industry making 💰 off PAC name. 💯 %
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Pac diss Jay z too on the original Hit them up
and on lets be friends he blatantly yells "fck jay z "
@@ceez8731 yup
All out og & of course bomb first 🔥🔥🔥
He took Jay-Z diss of the original hit em up because of one of the outlaws ask Pac to take Jay-Z off.
@@ceez8731 🔥ruclips.net/video/HERUVvQxRNI/видео.html
PAC would’ve annihilated Hawaiian Sophie fang
JaYZ was Quiet as a Church Mouse when the EastCoast vs WestCoast beef was going on….that’s the Reason why Prodigy from Mobb Deep was beefing with JayZ about,
💯💯💯..bcuz hov said n.y been soft since snoop kick down the buildings on money..cash...record..yup
Jay was a nobody at the time. What could he have said and the people would have listened? He had no power at the time. If you was around then,then you would know.
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 exactly 💯
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 if he was a nobody y pac called him out 🤦🏾♂️
@24 Keys because pac went at anybody associated with biggie. You must was to young back then to know
Jay would never blew if big & pac never died.
Jayz would've most definitely shined dude! Hell he was starting to shine at that time
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Thank you 🙏🏽 for saying the truth
Jigga defeated all.
@James Eu How's it the truth it's a false reality that never happened
If 2pac WAS here ,He NOT THO
Big used that same line “ kick in the door waving the 44” line on the junior mafia song “ get money “ before he turned it into a whole song on the “ life after death “ album
Biggie used his old lines on that newer shit was because it was on some " Don't forget what said before " Shit...
Jay z didn't want no smoke with Tupac 😆😆😆😆 that's my guy pac forever
And Jay is here enjoying life while Pac is 🤷♂️
2pac would've destroyed Jay Z easily
Like a hot knife 🎙🔥🔪 thru butter 🧈
JZ always been a fraud. He is the Lebron James of the Rap world.
The name of Jay's 1st album was "Reasonable Doubt"...NOT "Dead Presidents". That was a single on the album. I'm telling y'all this old dude just rambles like old dudes do
Yeh
Keep those 2pac vid coming 💪🏽💯
Marcy is bed stuy basically. It’s next to bed stuy. You can walk there. I used to work around Marcy.
Marcy is Williamsburg….not Stuy…..stop it lol
Thats true That Brooklyn Finest with Big put Jay on the map
Jay edited Big's verse, there is an old XXL article that says he took out a line where Big said "Most hated in California". Pretty sure it was from the Reasonable Doubt 10th Anniversary release. Being it was his debut album he didn't want to kill any potential sales on the west coast.
Jay z a snake like that
All I gotta say is Jay ain't messin wit Pac, NaS and Biggie!!!
Eye guess,if yoU say so?!🤔
He better than all 3 lmao big a close 2nd tho
Pac, NaS, Biggie >>> Jay Z
REAL/TRUE HIP HOP HEADS KNOWS THIS
Or eminem . Heck add Ice cube
@@prettylaurynn noway near
Awesome content and insight have a fantastic blessed and safe night my brother
Sorry, Ceno. Jay-Z don't have an album called "Dead Presidents." That's a single.
Karceno...what are you talking about Marcy is in Bed stuy....I'm from Philly and I know this...and it's always been quite deplorable....you don't know what your talking about......
Facts
Jay z would have gotten destroyed by Pac!!
Fell back? Jay didn’t even have a rap career then yet.
Pac was going berserk on big in 94-95 reasonable doubt came out 3-4 months before Pac died
Yeah he did he was Hawaiian Sophie legend
Jay Z didn't have an album but he made guest appearances and had singles out since the late 1980's. Enjoy your day.
Wasn't gone have as long as pac was around
@@noreaster1788 exactly! Haters don't know Jay's been dropping verses way before Pac was thought of in 86'. "HP Gets Busy" they need to Google it.
JAY STATED THAT HE ASKED BIGGIE ABOUT GOING AT PAC, AND HE SAID BIG SAID NA IM NOT DOING THAT, SO THATS WHY HOV FELL BACK TOO. CENO JUST DONT LIKE JAY. RESPECTFULLY.
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Jay states many things. People need to stop believing everything Jay says. Hence why the DMX battle tape is missing?
And the basketball team video.
Jay wanted no smoke with Tupac bruh.
The one who's still living can say anything lol Even if Hov was a better rapper than Pac at the time, I doubt he wanted that kinda smoke
@@FBA_259 Stop It, Jay would’ve lit Pac up on Vol 1 if he was alive. Pac is a great rapper but Jay can tango stop lying.
The original release date for Life After Death was August 1996; Biggie said it in an interview. The Makaveli album was supposed to be a mixtape.
Facts not to many wanted that smoke
Cap off my Friday wit a hip hop story
Busta Rhymes Biggie Jayz went to the same high school
clark kent would of never let biggie take Brooklyn finest beat from Jay
True. He's the one that told Biggie that Jay was nicer than him
kent is a jz stan
Life after death was suppose to drop on Halloween
Ceno I got to disagree with you on this one. Marcy is in Bed stu and Mobb deep shouted out Marcy on the Infamous Album track Trife Life.
He's doesn't know shit.. dude from Chicago telling us about NY 😂
@@kapo2012fb I ain’t going to go there bro. Ceno is good people’s, seems to be man of character and has been in the Industry but on this one there was some erroneous stuff. Actually Wu Tang shouted Marcy out on the Wu Tang Forever album also. I am from the BX but grew up in East Orange NJ. The only reason I know about Marcy is because I had a ex that lived in Tompkins right down the street from Marcy.
“Where you and ya man’s hung in every verse in ya rhymes” Jay z where I’m from he threw shots
@@kapo2012fb he right Marcy was not among hot out in newyork then 😂
exactly he said it like Jay & Marcy not in Bedstuy or Brooklyn 🤔 "Jay not a Brooklynite" 🤔
You speaking facts on this one💯
Pac would have destroyed gay z aka the 🐪 that’s what Nas called him when he bodied him on either
CENO Need To Talk More About The Unreleased Diss Song 2Pac Has On Jay Z , Mobb Deep , Fugees , De La Soul , Big , When We Ride On Our Enemies , Fuck Friends , Lil Homiez , When Thugz Cry , All Out , Watch Ya Mouth , NY 87’ , Never Got To Officially Release But There All On RUclips Straight Fire 🔥🔥🔥🤦🏾♂️
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Facts
Jay wasn't in the streets in Brooklyn AT ALL. Any work he did was out of town, small time drug dealing in other states. The drug game back then ran through the Gambinos. That was after Paul C was killed and they were heavy into drugs. Jay couldn't have done any big work at that time without their approval. Jay has always been talking more than he is actually doing.
Jay Z was in the DMV (DC, Maryland, Virginia) moving HEAVY and NJ.
You sound like a goof lol
@@GDSprodify 🔥ruclips.net/video/HERUVvQxRNI/видео.html
@@GDSprodify Yeah, he might have done some work out there in DMV, but he was never in the streets in any part of NYC the way he says he was. It was a thing back then to go down south and buy for cheap, remember when Puffy stopped Biggie from doing that? But Jay was never in the streets in NY in any big way.
@@blackjesus2473 OK. But I'm really from Brooklyn and Jay Z wasn't a thing there. My family is in Brooklyn since the 1800s. Jay-Z was hired to write for Foxy, pushed DMX out of his label and developed this NYC hood persona that the White kids in the burbs really thought was hood.
You have to talk about The Commission Ceno
Jay z knows better to not respond to pac
Tupac would've destroyed Jigga verbally and made sure his career would've happen trust me
TUPAC DID DISS JAY Z AND IT DIDNT HURT JAYS CAREER AT ALL…HOV 🐐
Lmmfaooo he did respond...Dead or Alive
Yes he did 😂
2Pac = The 🐐..........Great vid Ceno.
Love Pac but at that time he was just dissing anybody he thought was down with Biggie and Puff
I’m so glad I know my hip hop history and was around when this happened
Ceno talking pure nonsense about Jay
Biggie told him to fall back,
Thank you. This guy needs to close the channel blatantly lying and shit.
Thank you bro nobody affiliated with biggie responded
@@thebettingpublicsportsshow I think most of his audience are either very young or stupid. Sometimes he be saying stuff that are straight cap 🧢 and no one checks him for it
yo just here after listening to "Whats Beef", perfect timing, lol
Beef is when I see you.....
@@jerry85g7 🔥ruclips.net/video/HERUVvQxRNI/видео.html
First off big started after hov but people knew hov his rap style was just different but it’s no slight on hov because he’s from Marcy they get there just due
Thank you for telling the real . Why we love big. He put the east on his back it was a time hip hop was dead in nyc. It was all reggae. at one point
Jay had a slick line on pac in twenty-two 2
On reasonable doubt album.
Jay z made a diss track to pac but it never came out due to pac passing they deleted it
If Jay would have put that shit out back then Pac would have cooked Jay. Jay wasn't even hot at that time. For him to jump in that water with pac would have been suicide
@@malcomshabazz2809 yeah word I agree with you on that
Didn't DMX do the same?
@@malcomshabazz2809 pac would have destroyed jay because of his work ethic. Pac would have had 10 songs going at jayz before jay had put out one.
a couple of rappers also withdrew their diss tracts towards pac after he died lol , before he died pac burned afew of bridges
The Commission wudda been better then The Firm
There’s a lot of inaccuracies in this video Ceno. A lot.
Jay didn’t graduate with his class he was a late bloomer
2pac fell back when Orlando Anderson went at him heavy
People are always persecuting Jay for being smart. He knows how to move. A lot of these other guys are reckless and foolish. Being in the streets will not only ruin your career but end your life.
Jay z ain't ***t!
@@jackdaniels1147
Eye guess,if yoU say so?!🤔
@@daseanmordgin5123 I do say so
@@jackdaniels1147
Riiight
Everybody from New York fell back except P
Everybody but P? Pac didn't diss everybody so why would they jump in? Well known lyricists there in NYC were alive and still in the rap game. So let's not make it seem as if they feared Pac. 🙄🤔
@@noreaster1788 P as in Prodigy little fella u even their getting butt hurt
@@sirleroyale4412 I'm aware of who "P"is young fella. I don't understand the rest of what you are saying. Good day to you.
P can hold his own. I'm not a fan of P. But I gtta give the man his due credit
@jamieholmes4753 Prodigy got bodied, Pac had him damn near crying.
Smart thing to do with Pac foolery got both of them killed
Tupac chase Jay Z out of LA
"Jay was working on his solo album Dead Presidents" 🤔
Big & Jay got their Harlem swag from Puff & Dame respectively...both Harlemites. This clueless dude didn't put it together. He just runs his mouth
If Death Row East got started with Tupac in the lead, rocafella would have difficulty to compete
West was in charge for a while, no lie
Clark Kent was very biased against biggie when it came to jayz and beats
Jay-z beef with pac started on Kane tour Jay-z was throwing in the crowd the same money tupac was making for the show
2PAC WAS THE WORLDS FIRST “STUDIO GANGSTER”
I hate that name Marcy 🤣
I firmly believe Jay would've sauced up, would he have won maybe, but he would've gave some great disses on Vol 1 for Pac and had tracks with Biggie if they both aint die.
What are you talking about ? You know nothing about Brooklyn 😂
Jay wasn't built like that back then
Sounding like jaguar now bro what's up with u
2Pac the greatest.
So I’m watchin a rap city rerun from 1997 big lez guest are the lost boys on this episode and I haven’t saw a jay z video come on yet can somebody explain to me why is this?
Same thing happened with Tupac in death row when he went there all of a sudden he became a tough guy super blood
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Biggie and Jay Z are Legendary
Biggie and 2Pac yes. Jay-z, no. He would've stayed in retirement mode if it weren't for Kanye.
@@lex_one-two
Nah homie even if you don't like Jay you gotta give credit to where it's due. He is legendary just as much if not more than Big. In my opinion Pac is the goat though.
@@lex_one-two HOW IS JAY-Z NOT A LEGEND…FOH 🤡
Jay-z, Biggie and busta rhymes
Went to the same high school.
Marcy is in Bed Stuy right before you can call it down town Brooklyn
Tell em Ceno I love when u tell these stories 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I wouldn't be surprised if Jay called a hit on Big. Yea, he looked up to him, but he would've remained a shadow. "He went from Jaz to Big to Eminem murdered him on his own sh--." lmao literally.
From what I heard biggie told them not to release the disses ?
MAN NO ONE IN THE SOUTH HEARD OF
JAY-Z UNTIL PAC DISSED HIM
Facts that ny sh*^ was corny to us and them niccas look goofy as phuck gang banging
Marcy projects are in Bedstuy lol
But you right back in the day Marcy wasn’t like some big notorious PJs
I'm pretty sure Puff wasn't on the commission album, because that project was done so Biggie and Jay could make some money
Tallguy66 Not Perfect out Now. And yes T.I stole my what you know about that. I’m still going because I love the craft. ✌🏾
Preach
What else was really Jay supposed to do he was Bigs lil homie. Pay homage to the 👑 now.
Where is the new bmf reviews
Lol
Charles flenory: At least you could wish me luck
I thought Charli Baltimore was supposed to be a part of the commission 🤔
Why is no one watching industry hoax. That will tell you everything about Tupac.
Marcy project is in bedstuy Brooklyn.
His bodyguard gene said he was bout to dip after life after death & the commission came out
yup, not big bodyguard tho, that is what he said i disagree
My opinion, what would PAC have said about an unknown Jay-Z to destroy him?
That's because Jay-z theses two wasn't gonna be around to long...hov is A two headed snake
Pac energy was too strong for jayz
Jay did diss Pac, he was just dead before we all heard it
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Did Jay-Z & Big Daddy Kane fall out ? I always wondered why Kane was never on any of Jay-Z's albums. I wished Kanye was on at least Jay-Z album
Jay-Z, from "Hawaiian Sophie" fame
For Jay to be in cahoots with Puff knowing dam well he got Big smoked speaks volumes about him. Boy ain't built like nothing that's why he waited for the smoke to clear. Spooky nigra
I'm from Brooklyn how do a guy from Chicago tell us about Brooklyn
sure got lot of tupac stories
Jayz died too.. looking out for mobb deep, nga when I find you...
Mobb Sleep 😂😂