The SECRET Black Cat Spider-Woman Connection!
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2022
- The Black Cat (Felicia Hardy) has long been associated with Spider-Man (Peter Parker). Their flirtatious dynamic has oft been compared to Batman and Catwoman just as the two female characters have been compared to each other. However, things could have been very different. Enter a world where The Black Cat would have gone on to be a magical super villain for Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)! What changed? Why did Marv Wolfman leave Spider-Woman and take The Black Cat with him? Find out all that and more here on Casually Comics!
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When they dated, I thought it was interesting how she preferred the Spider-Man persona over Peter Parker. To the point where she hated seeing him in his civilian identity.
Even if she herself moderately resembles Catwoman, Peter is so different from Bruce that it almost doesn't matter?
Peter is more like Tim :P
Almost polar opposite when you think about it
To me they are both studies in how we deal with trauma, but different kinds of trauma. Batman is how we deal with trauma from one major event while spidey is about being selfless depiste the many "traumas" of everyday life and compounding major trauma. The feels of their worlds are different sure. I still see them as mirrors of each other kinda.
IDK, it's not really a "this is the same" to me as much as "I could be reading the better one" since the Black Cat personality anoys me more than anything and I don't think a Femme fatal works nearly as well with a joking character like Spiderman than a more stoic presence like Batman.
Specially since unlike Bruce, Peter is always on romantic triangles bullshit which gets really annoying but I will admit that's more a general problem than a Black Cat specific problem. It just hurts her more than others.
I imagined Black Cat having a "Lois Lane Room" for Spiderman being an actual Lois Lane Room, filled with images, and statues of Lois Lane, but with pictures of Spiderman's head taped over the faces....
No… they are spider masks over them
Due to a misunderstanding Felicia thinks Lois is Spider-Man so she marries her (she's handsome, so Lois will do it).
Cut to Superman in an empty Lois Lane room. :D
@@Cesaryeyo and now I'm imagining a queer version of those "Lois marries someone who isn't Superman" covers. Lois marrying Wonder Woman while looking at a sad Superman and a thinks "I said I will marry the strongest member of the Justice League so his pride is as hurt as his heart now". Lois marrying The Enchantress while a desperate Superman says "Lois will marry a villianess, and there's nothing I can do about it because I'm weak to magic!" Lois marrying Lana Lang, Lori Lamaris and Lex Luthor while Superman thinks "I can't believe they let me out of their polyamorous collective!" ... do someone knows Kerry Callen's phone number?
This is metal.
To me, Black Cat was the 1 toy from the 90s animated series that I wanted but could not have. I bought it as an adult because it haunted me for a good 18 years.
My brain: We are an adult now...we can buy what we want ...
*googles black cat figures*
I bought the Legends version.
I always thought the simple addition of Black Cat having actual superpowers separated her from Catwoman but much like Spiderwoman that’s been so inconsistent over the years I have no idea what she can do now… So yeah, I would enjoy that powers video if you don’t mind.
The decision that she was only prepping her battlefields rather than having actual luck did lead to interesting character drama with Spidey flipping out that since she's now trying to be a hero the villains are going to be picking the battlefields. But I did sort of like her with the vague luck power. Put her in a team with Longshot, Domino, that one Irish hero chick and some of the other luck heroes as a gag one-off. See if you can get John Jackson Miller to write it, he wrote outrageous swings of luck very well in his Star Wars KotOR comic.
Same. It adds another layer to the character.
I feel the key difference is that Felicia is ultimately a thrill seeker who is WRONG for Spidey whilst Selina has deeper motives behind what she does and is ironically Bruce's perfect woman.
I think catwoman also has a longer history of being on the good side whereas Black Cat has flitted between them more
Felicia and Selina are very similar. So much so that I'm surprised DC hasn't sued Marvel. Both, however, could be said to draw from similar source material: the idea of a film noir femme Fatale Cat burglar.
Similarly, both DC and Marvel have supervillains named The Enchantress. But the concept of a seductive femme Fatale who uses her sexuality to manipulate men is one that exists throughout mythology and legends across cultures. Neither DC nor Marvel originated the idea, so neither one owns it and, therefore, they cannot sue over it.
She originally didn't have powers. In her next appearance they revealed that she would go to certain places and set traps, then lead people there and things would go wrong and she'd claim it was her "bad luck powers".
Eventually she and Spidey became a couple but he worried about her getting hurt fighting villains. So she went and got actual bad-luck powers from scientists who turned out to be working for the Kingpin.
She had lost and regained these powers over the years so I don't really know if she still has them now.
I still remembered most of this from when I read like 40 years of Spidey comicsc a few years back so this time I locked into some more weird details like when Betty Brant slapped Peter I contemplated on how Pete must have moved his head with her hand or he probably would've shattered her hand with his cheekbones.
Lol I think about that in every silver age comic when anyone slaps Superman
@@CasuallyComics “Papa spank!”
The classic trope of "punches only feel painful when a love-interest is the one hitting the hero" ... _Naruto_ did that a lot
14:20 Felicia really said ACAB, including Spider-Man. But it's a bit hard to take her seriously when the entire panel is just "look at her butt!"
Lol both these issues are basically. Look at her butt!!
My biggest complain was Kevins Smiths story. One of the things I loved about Black Cat was the fact she did love her father and wanted to be like him. It was a refreshing reason to be a bad guy.
The whole date rape aspect aspect Kevin Smith just turned her into a cheap revenge origin and cast an unnecessary dark shadow on a fun character.
That story upsets me so much. The art is amazing and the first three issues are legit great. I'd just retcon it that was all just fake illusions Mysterio pulled.
Her story was already "Dark" because she always knew about her father's actions and how all her wealth is because of things he did. Her burden was her legacy, edge for edgy sake isn't good storytelling
It's like there's a rule in comics (or fiction) that if there's a well written and established female character, eventually some male writer will want to write a story where either she gets raped or it's revealed she was raped in her past.
Kevin Smith is a trash edgelord. I also hate what he did to Karen Page.
They need to stop giving Kevin Smith comics to ruin. Thanks to him, we will now forever know that in the legendary and iconic Year One scene where Batman smashes in the wall and tells the rulers of Gotham that they will no longer act with impunity, he had pee trickling into his boots.
I liked how in the animated series Black Cat is given the same formula Capt. America was given :P
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Spectacular Spider-Man put an even bigger twist on their relationship by making Felicia’s father Uncle Ben’s killer.
I loved that twist!
Black Cat has always been a fun character, especially after the 90s Spidey cartoon. Yeah, you can make the Catwoman comparison but there's still enough for them to be distinct.
Although I can't deny that the characters are very similar, somehow Felicia's personality as an individual seems to shine through all of her writers. I think part of this is how the brightness and fun (dare I say Manic Pixie Dream Girl in 2022?) contrasts with the femme fatale aspect. It is almost as if Catwoman is moving more toward being like Black Cat. The real difference between them could easily have been the fact that Felicia had super powers, but somehow it is deeper than that. She channels a lot of 'crazy ex-girlfiend that you should not like but do' energy, unlike Catwoman who somehow seems more genuinely dangerous. I wonder whether they are the same being in the Amalgam universe.
@@keithpl5438 Nah, just played by Eartha Kitt.
@@keithpl5438 catwoman has been black before so she can just be black
@@keithpl5438 but the shed just be cat woman so why not just call an amalgam of them, the cat
I sure Black Cat was copied from the 60s TV Catwoman. Usually, she is cooler than Catwoman.
I recall a time when Felicia was dating Flash Thompson. It was a running subplot and even had at least one double date with Peter and MJ. It was ended when Felicia confessed she started it only to make Peter jealous. I do wish they'd touched back on this when Flash was Venom as it could have been amusing.
For me, it's not so much of a "will they, won't they" with Felicia and Peter... As far as I'm concerned, the Spectacular Spider-Man run from '83 to '87 clearly shows that "they already did.... a lot". I really enjoyed them as a pair in that time, as she was pretty much in every issue for 4 years or so.
I bought these issues at the newstand when I was a kid, and I remember liking the Black Cat a lot. I haven't re-read them in 30+ years, so I have no idea how adult me would feel about it, but at the time the stories did the job they were supposed to and got me to buy more issues.
I'm a huge Black Cat fan so I knew most of this already, but God did it feel good to hear Sasha talking about her. Great video!
I love cosplaying black cat. She was my first and still my favourite
I think Black Cat's costume looks like it is based after the original Black Cat where the current Catwoman is more based after Miss. Fury. The protagonist being attracted to bad girl(or boy) in hopes to change them or walk the dark side didn't start with Batman and Catwoman but that is a very popular one. Terry and the Pirates I think did it first with the Dragon Lady but she wasn't 'cat' themed which is where I think the main connection people see Catwoman and Black Cat having in common with the purrrfect pussy-cat puns.
Man I would love to see a Black Cat movie done right. She was always in interesting character for me.
That rant about Betty was, hands down, one of the best things in this video. I have never agreed more with(and laughed so hard at) a point being made.
The Black Cat/Felicia has been always a mysterious character to me, the first time I read about her she was shot to death. When I was a child and long before I started to collect comics, I used to read every comic that come to my hands, some of them of Siperman's, I don't remember the title of the issue but it was the very first I read with Black Cat/ Felicia in and it was the conclusion of an arc when they face Doctor Octopus, the issue started with them badly injured, Doc Ock's artificial arms splattered but still moving and Black Cat sacrifices herself to save Spiderman from been shot to death, luckily in spite of her wounds Felicia survives. I was like 9 or 10 years old, it was the first time I saw that kind of violence in a Spiderman story and in a comic book - my only reference so far then were some reprints from the Comic Code era and the TV cartoons from the 60's and even though there were some guns and shots, there were no blood. Speaking of cartoons: Now after watched this video I cannot stop imagining how would it bee and appearance of Black Cat on the Spiderwoman's cartoons if she was a villain to Jessica Drew's.
Now let me talk you a story: back then when I was a child, at the 80s, it happened that time - and it happens pretty much the same right now-, that the one Mexican editorial company had acquired both DC and Marvel rights to reprint and translate to Spanish and make some adaptations to the most popular titles of both companies in order to make them more relatable to Latinamerican countries - that's why in Mexico and Latinamerica Batman, Robin, Batgirl, as the main example of it, them kept their superhero name but used to have secret identities in Spanish, being Bruno Díaz, Ricardo Tapia and Bárbara Fierro (that makes her father el Comisionado Fierro) repectively; sometimes the names of some heroes and or support characters were translated too, like Mujer Maravilla for Wonder Woman and we used to pronounce her name Diana as it sounds in Spanish - actually is the same name with the same spelling- and Prince was kept, almost the same case but slightly different is Lois Lane's case who we used to call Luisa Lane (keeping the phonetic sound not so much the correct pronunciation of their last names in English); and one special case is Catwoman's who was given the name Gatúbela instead of Mujer gato. In the case of Marvel characters the translation was not so much of the secret identities but mostly of the name of the heroes: Hombre Araña, Mujer Araña Doctor Pulpo, Duende verde, la Gata Negra; Los Hombres X: Profesor X, Cíclope, Chica Marvel, Bestia, Hombre de hielo, Ángel, Glotón for Wolverine, Tormenta; Los Vengadores: Capitán América, Hombre de Hierro, Viuda Negra, Hombre Hormiga, Bruja Escarlata, la Avispa, Visión; Los Cuatro Fantásticos: Hombre increíble sometimes also known as el Hombre elástico, la Mujer Invisible, la Antorcha humana, and as for the Thing the literal translation "la Cosa" didn't work for them so they decided to call him la Mole (please do not mistake it for the traditional Mexican dish which name is spelled and pronounced the same "mole") which means huge massive object or material.
I am so sorry I've written like an ancient scroll here.
I always preferred Spidey and Black Cat over Batman and Catwoman since S & BC tend to be more dynamic, cutesy and flirty rather that bats and cats just bouncing sarcastic quips and "our love is forbidden" drama. Also Black Cat is a really fun character by herself
It should also be noted that, for me, one of the reasons I like Black Cat as a love interest for Peter is that there are opportunities for interesting stories with the two, such as Felicia initially only really caring for Spider-Man over Peter, but coming to realize that attitude is wrong and other potential things, I also do like that the two are somewhat of a match for each other, both in sense of humor and abilities.
Black Cat is younger and that changes how we treat the relationship, like they are not forty like Batman was.
Technically Batman nor Catwoman are forty. They would definitely be late 20s early 30s.
The Dark Knight is when people started thinking about Batman as old.
@@Lukecash2 I agree, about the age but how Batman acted back then was a father/ the way DC did things back then. Spider-man is a student.
Sometimes with Batman's kid, and the new timelines Bruce must had Damian before The bat. Happens when half of what is was is but it all happened in five years instead of 15.
@@davidmallette8079 Peter aged in real-time until he got to university, then they slowed things down so he was at ESU for many years. But at the time of this issue he had graduated.
@@jhornacek yeah, but till civil war they treat him that way. Now they do not know how to keep him in a role, when he lead the Earth mightiest.
@@davidmallette8079 Actually around the issues in these stories Peter is either in post-grad school or about to enter it. He eventually gets married and stays married for 20 years realtime and is about to become a father. Peter grew and matured during all of this time. He was definitely in his mid-20s by this point.
It was only when One More Day happened and Quesada got rid of the Spider-Marriage that they both de-aged and de-matured Peter. It got even worse when Dan Slott was writing ASM.
Sasha: "The more well-known Black Cat was developed--"
Me: "Yes, yes she was."
That Tex Avery cartoon is awesomeness!!!
I love Felicia Hardy. Her character has waxed and waned it depends on the creative team. Those PETER PARKER SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN issues where Doc Ock almost kills her stands out in my memory. I would have loved seeing her as a foil for JESSICA DREW.
Yeah, Betty Brant was dogged a lot throughout her history in Spidey's supporting cast.
The description of the intended original costume of Black Cat sounds exactly how her winter criminal costume looks in Future Fight.
I really like the fur addition to her suit it makes her look interesting.
Sometimes I wonder if you'll run out of hairstyles to put on 😆. I hope not, I love your variety of dues!
"Black Cat was dogged..." I see what you did there.
I'm reminded of David Michelanie's original pitch for Venom as a woman. Marvel editors nixed it because they said _"female villains can only seduce heroes, not try to kill them."_
What could have been. Glad to see some changes in the landscape these days.
Plus his original Venom involved a miscarriage, probably not something Marvel wanted as a villain origin/motivation.
@@jhornacek Sue Storm of the FF had a miscarriage about four years before ASM #300 so I don't think that was an issue. From the interview with Michelanie I read, he said it was preciously because the editors didn't believe male heroes could have dangerous female villains.
Typhoid Mary, the first female villain who straight up tried to kill a hero appeared just a couple months after ASM #300 and she also nailed Daredevil. It's sad but had Michelanie said She-Venom would also try to bang Peter before killing him then his bosses would probably have let him do it.
For the first crazy event of 2022, I say we storm DC comics headquarters. Who’s with me?
I'm glad that Peter took Felicia to therapist after her speech. No matter how good someone looks from behind you always want to make sure they're well.
That dialogue. That imagery. The panel featured at 8:22, just wow. Dim the lights, put on some Sade and just get crazy. Almost too much wrong (alternatively, too much right) to fit in a single panel. Yet, they found a way.
Spider Woman had a very simple concept, it was a Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, Horror, Romance. Mystery, Urban Gothic, Drama, Super hero comic. I cant understand why it failed. Read the first 19 issues then stop as they slowly take everything unique about her away and make her the blandest character imaginable.
*spams like button*
I guess you can say it’s time to get the cat out of bag.
That whole debate about Catwoman and Black Cat being a "copycat"... Heh, is so funny, because just doing a little bit of research, Catwoman was nothing Black Cat around this time, not until the 80's and 90's, then really when she was redesigned by Darwyn Cooke. Other than the flirting, you can say Catwoman took cues from Black Cat.
If the 1994 series (which she's the Gwen Stacy standin for the most of the show, and then becomes a ripped super soldier Black Cat) I don't know if she'd be that well known, everywhere, or a J. Scott Campbell CoverGirl icon that she is today.
Also, my boy from Insomniac Games Spider-Man was hit by Black Cat's greatest weapon: The thought of being a father.
I was around at the time and bought the comic she first appeared in off the rack and at the time I thought she was a bit of a rip off of Catwoman. Specifically, she reminded me of the Julie Newmar version of Catwoman from the old Batman TV series. This isn't to take away from Black Cat as a character, and I'll admit that once you look into her journey from idea to the comics page it doesn't look like it was an intentional attempt to rip off by Catwoman by her creators.
Catwoman had several different designs throughout her years. But Julie Newmar pulled off the black spandex that both Black Cat and Later Catwoman adopted.
But Selina has been on the prowl, pulling of cat burglaries since the beginning. Often hopping around rooftops. The only difference was she wore a long dress.
Cook only created a really great fictional suit for her.
Might want to call it Insomniac Spider-Man or Gamerverse Spider-Man, I thought you were talking about the PS1 game for a bit.
Exactly
The 70s Spider-Woman cartoon is awesome. She was written like Superman in it.
7:14 I was just thinking "Why is Quentin Beck in the background" but no, it's not him, it's Mysterio in disguise. Right...
There are times I love the character and there are times I really love the character. Reminds me of that time Spider-man demasked a psychiatrist trying to learn Spider-man's true identity, remarking "it's my old foe... Mysterio!"
No wonder Beck has self-esteem issues... not Mysterio, just Beck somehow.
More Black Cat please she is great
When will Felicia Hardy make her appearance in the MCU?
Idk
Not sure. There’s plans for her at Sony I’m pretty sure
Not soon enough. Maaaaaaan!
Maybe soon. It looks like Peter needs a new love interest. Unless Sony gives her a movie first.
Uhhhh. There’s no good way to tell you this. Sony has her
your spidey narration is the superior version I needed on this day
Personally, I've been enjoying the last two Black Cat series. Art's been good too.
5:17 "To read comic books."
-Grant Morrison, probably... Grant knows what life is.
My first meeting with Felicia was in ASM 316 when she wanted to rekindle her relationship with Peter without knowing he got married and Venom broke her nose.Then she romanced Flash Thompson to later break his heart to hurt Pete.
She is mostly Marvel’s Cat Woman -🤔
But that (basically) same character and relationship with the hero is so much fun that you don’t get tired of it 😉✌️
Wouldn't his Spider Sense let him know when bad luck was going to assault him?
So is the stalking scrap book the replacement for the Lois Lane mannequin room? It feels more spy, less serial killer.
I always loved Black Cat. I know she's all wrong for Peter but I don't care. Do it for me, Pete!
Take that back. Peter is wrong for her.
He isn't st in relationship.
He ignores her crimes.
Banter is a Spider-Man thing, and it's nice seeing someone who can banter back.
You should do my favorite Black Cat appearance- in issues 20-21 of the second What If? series- What If? Spiderman Married Black Cat? I always wondered what might happen if he'd chosen her over MJ, and that two issue set gave me one possibility.
I started reading comics, and enjoying movies, in the late 60's, and this is just another case of "doesn't age well" and "how did I miss this?" (Especially when thinking about it as a parent of daughters, and grand-daughters.)
As always thank you so very much for the video.
I like this origin for the Black Cat because it leaves so much room for her to grow
Thanks for making your videos, they both make me laugh and teach me about the history of the characters and the comic book industry
"she's more exposition now than cat"
Might be your best libe ever
Do you remember when Sasha did awkward dancing with weird cropping? That episode literally was voted "Most Adorable Video in RUclips" by all Cat Videos.
Giving Jessica Drew a bad luck powered nemesis would also make it very hard for her to distinguish that anything put of the ordinary from her normal life when they fought. Also as a die hard Spiderwoman fan I really wish that this had happened because they are perfect foils: OG Spiderwoman attracts men and makes women fear her, making it nearly impossible to have a normal social life based on factors completely out of her control, while Black Cat uses her feminine charm as a matter of choice. They are both solitary but they could absolutely have a jealousy component over each other: black cat because Jess can seduce almost anyone without even trying and Spiderwoman because Selina could live a normal life and chooses not to
I mean, has an animated show every drawn criticism for Spider-man going down on Black Cat? If not, then they are entirely different characters.
Your 2020 Black Cat reviews are done of my favourite on your channel so this was nice!
Considering that Jessica Drew in the Ultimate universe is a lesbian, and Felicia Hardy is bisexual, I’m a bit surprised there aren’t any much pairing or shipping of the two.
Honestly I would find that simply making it so that black cat has her dynamic with Jessica instead of Peter would be more interesting for me.
@@pqcowboychanel okay
Comparing Spiderman's and Batman's relationships with their own cat themed villain is a bit of a weird comparison in my mind because I really can't decide who's actually worse. On one hand Black cat loves Spiderman but doesn't want anything to do with Peter Parker, while on the other Catwoman has always felt a little more dangerous depending on what your reading or watching. Black Cat might fight Spiderman but I don't think she's ever put him into actual death traps like Catwoman has done to Batman but when they are a couple Batman and Catwoman tend to work really well .
So one hates half of who you are while the other used to try and kill you with no remorse.
I didn't read a lot of early Batman comics, but for what little I saw, at the beginning it looked like Catwoman didn't feel that strong of an attraction to Batman but used his infatuation with her as an advantage. That, of course, changed over the years
Fun enough I love spider man and Batman as superheroes but never really confused the 3 cat burglar villains except by name. tbf their names are a descriptor with "cat" stapled on it.
I think its because their personality is distinct enough and motivations strong enough to tell them apart. Black Cat does her villiany for fun and actively chases spiderman for the joy of it. she is the center of attention and only leaves when she is finished.
Catwoman is doing crimes for a purpose, though what that is changes depending on the writer. She is focused on her hits and usually uses every angle to get her prizes. Her interest in batman has always been more convenient, she flirts with him because he decided to show up and stop her. She rarely if ever goes to batman and will only begrudgingly help him.
Basically black cat is down for anything she feels like doing, while catwoman got shit to do.
I love Black Cat & everything about her. Great video, as always!
Your Peter voice is so great lol. Oh and shrine room Black Cat. Must be love then.
Damn... that's quite the Erkel you got in for Peter :O
I'm going to hear your Spidey voice for the rest of my life now (before the voice was more like the 90s cartoon or sometimes Tobey)
The way they treated poor Betty this issue. Poor Betty. 🤣
Your mind went to Carmen Sandiego, my mind went to Lady Dimetresque from resident evil
Betty and Ned both catch a case of what I like to call 'satellite syndrome'. it happens when characters become caricatures (sometimes permanently but not always) to make whomever the focal point of the plot is more interesting. by putting the decision in Peter's hands and punishing him for doing what in this case was the right thing ( instead of having an honest conversation about whether their relationship is worth fixing or not) Peter gets to pull out his sad puppy eyes for a couple panels and now has no reason not to go after Felicia. I can't think of any examples where it leads to anything good for the character that catches it, they either reset to what they were before they caught it, or get fridged.
"Betty and Ned both catch a case of what I like to call 'satellite syndrome'. it happens when characters become caricatures (sometimes permanently but not always) to make whomever the focal point of the plot is more interesting."
You've pretty much described every supporting character throughout Spidey's history. They all act like this, even going back to the Lee/Ditko era.
And don't be too quick to let Peter off the hook here - Betty had just gotten married, left Ned on their honeymoon, came back to New York, went to see Peter, and they slept together. So Peter had an affair with a married woman.
I don't think it would had been a good idea having Black Cat fighting Spider Woman. The booty power in those issues would had been too strong, children across the world would had turned instantly into men due to the unbelievable might of their cheese cake combined. It would had been chaos! Chaos I tell you!
I love your videos so much I wish I could get my notifications to work so I don't always miss live streams
Peter and Felicia are one my favorite couples in comics (yes I kinda prefer her for Peter over MJ) but I do KIND OF think she is just a diet coke equivalent of Selina Kyle
But kind of a side note about Peter and Felicia's relationship, I don't think any writer as ever fully committed to it, it just feels like when ever a writer has them date they always have the intention to eventually break them up, when they can and have been a really good couple, Peter shows her how to be a better person and Felicia shows him how he shouldn't take on too much stress and should have more fun.
P. S does anyone else find it annoying that in any continuity Peter always ends up with MJ even if he has a better chemistry with another character ?
There is no "Peter and Felicia" couple. Felicia *only* loves Spider-Man. When Spidey revealed his secret identity to her and she realized he wasn't a billionaire living in a mansion and was instead a poor photographer in a shabby apartment, she told him to put his mask back on.
Peter realized that his relationship with Felicia had no longterm potential because she only loved Spidey, not Peter. Where as MJ loves both Peter and Spidey, which is why she had better chemistry with him than any other love interest.
@@jhornacek Oh! I know but in the Nick Spencer run (which I've not kept up with so if I get anything wrong feel free to correct me) he did make so the two do end up having a close friendship with each other, which I think could lead to old feelings resurfacing.
Yknow I don't like Marvel but I really like Black Cat. Her design and powers really vibe with me. If they ever decided to do anything with her MCU or animated wise I would probably watch it
Great video, Sasha...👍
I had a big crush on Black Cat. I even had her Action Figure from the 90's cartoon. It was one of my favorite toys.
Isn't this how Catwoman went missing the first time, fell into the water.
I love the little Hal salt you threw in lol
8:09 oh that sweet sweet pre-1986 NFA item inventory. Oh it's just an illegal dealer with a shockingly spacious hard to hide showroom.
“Everyone needs counselling” needs to be new merch!!!
Sasha must have an entire room to store all her wigs.
I'm a big fan of the Black Cat. Love reading Spider Man comics with the Black Cat in it. I'm waiting to hear news about the Black Cat solo movie and what director that's going to helm the Black Cat solo movie.
The nasal Peter Parker voice is really funny.
Man I love this channel
Black Cat is iconic, but they've never really felt all that memorable to me.
"she couldn´t sprung a murderer *spectacular Spiderman cartoon flashback*
Black Cat has always felt kind of like Marvel's version of Catwoman. But she DOES have her own personality and quirks. They revealed back in the day that all of those "bad luck" powers were elaborate traps she had set up to make people THINK she had powers so they would be leery of messing with her. Eventually, the Kingpin "gave" her real powers. At the time of this recording, they may have retconned it to where she always had powers. But her preparedness back in the old days made her seem like a more formidable force. Someone that puts that much work into their job is almost more of a Batman than a Catwoman. She's always checking out the scene and seeing what she might run into.
Honestly, I've enjoyed her last couple of series. I wish Marvel would stop doing the "stop/start" thing and just let it play out. But....That's modern Marvel for you.
You might be interested to know that their are somehow 2 Wolverine and the Black Cat mini-series (with trade paperback collections) that seem mostly to exist because someone realized they could subtitle the series Claws.
I only came here to say that I will now forever think of Spiderman as Edward G. Robbinson.
Characters only existing to preserve a trademark.
(Every MU Captain Marvel starts crying.)
9:15 However you read it, could be worse. Could be the _Ultimate_ version of the scene...
love the new outro music
5:26 Going to Kaz rather than Red vs Blue made me feel old.
*Sasha: **_"Just look at her calves. I am...."_*
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Ever saw the Spectacular Spider-man episode where Felicia's father was the burglar who killed Peter's uncle? Great twist.
I always gets her father (Walter) and the Black Fox confused. Amazing Spider Man 350 is still one of my favorite stories from my childhood....yayaya I'm old.
Not Peter being voiced like Steve Urkel 🤣🤣🤣
Ima need a new Spiderman cartoon where Sasha voices all of the characters. Balls in your court Disney XD!
I love your history of Black Cat. I still wish that Marvel Comics would create her own live series/film down the road.
I like Black Cat better than Catwoman. Like you said she seems to have more character than most females. Her relationship with Spider-Man is much more entertaining as she quips with the master of quips. Catwoman has a great personality but the reason it shines is because Batman is often one-dimensional, compared to Peter.
That MCU spoiler 🙊!!! Anyhow loved the video!
I’d guess Catwoman had at least some amount of influence, even if it was subconscious
"If Hal Jordan can use use that line...." lol....glad someone else is still scarred by that issue....
There were so many cat-themed characters : Catwoman, Catman, Black Cat, Hellcat, The Cat/Tigra, all the Cheetah's, etc. That list could be the topic of a whole video by itself. Also. Triple-likes for that "who's that girl" clip of Oz