@@fsctruckingThe Kennedy was initially supposed to be nuclear powered. Budget for that era dictated a change to conventional boilers. Spent several years as supervisor for number three engine room. Great ship. Sad to see her mothballed.
Somewhere around Feb 89, I was in a Navy School with another BT that was from Kennedy. He took me over to see what a 1200 PSI fire room capable of Cat launches looked like. How they used to push the pressure right up to the lowest boiler safety lift pressure I was over on Little Creek Amphib base on a 600 PSI gator freighter
I got stuck at Ft Knox one night for 3hrs. Went in to swap out a 329 Cat, escort waiting outside. Could only go in through one gate due to the railroad bridges that run through base. Went in swapped units came back to the gate, They where closing the gate wouldn't let me through. When i climbed out of the truck to ask where i could go to get out, Was yelled at and told to get back in my truck and turn around (civilian security). Drove to all of the rail bridges 2 where to low, and the 3rd was 2 narrow. Couldn't get any answer on any phone number for the gates. Ended up parking by the air field close to the Apaches with all my lights and strobes on. That got someone to come help me immediately (actual military security). They managed to get me a gate I could get out. 3hrs driving around inside a military base, Unreal.
civi security is the biggest backwards thing for a military base, the same here in Australia, the things we used to show these idiots to get on base and theyd wave us through aslong as we were in uniform, unreal. the same people that did security, looks after the mess and accom also. you get 1 rasher of bacon and as a result the price of a meal at the mess went up in price.
I had a nightmare like that making a furniture delivery to a high end building...We had tons of garbage and just wanted out of the building ...unfortunately different elevators with key fob access turned it into a shit show... we were ready to fight the security just to get out of the building...that we were literally locked in. they told us after that we weren't allowed to deliver without an appointment. Communication is non existant sometimes.
As a former submariner, don't sweat getting kiicked off the base. You aren't missing anything, I promise you. The best look at Groton is in the rear view mirror.
Nobody got kicked out of anywhere never got in and they had him do a U-turn that's what a gate is for getting kicked off a bass you have to be on it first
Oh wow now I'm watching the end of your video and you had a TWIC card this is pretty crazy I'm going to guess that whoever was working the front gate there is an idiot and dropped the ball
I brought a load of steel coil onto a base in Texas with a co-driver. Going thru the gate to check in the guard asked for our TWIC cards . Me being prepared took mine out with a smile thinking I was smart and doing the right thing. The co- driver told the guard he didn’t have his card and was told he would have to wait in the air conditioned waiting room while I proceeded onto the base to off load. First time experience with Texas heat . Bring water , lots of water
The base commander has the authority to determine what is appropriate for access. Ft Hood does a 20 year back ground check and will deny access for various reasons. Either you have a military ID card, a 30 day temp ID pass or a one year temporary ID card. Other instillations have a more ‘laxed’ requirement or may require an escort from entry to exit.
Was stationed at that base about 21 years ago.... I'm fairly certain a job requirement for the civilians there is that you are required to hate life itself. Whether or not they share that misery is completely on them. Guaranteed the dudes that showed up to pick up that generator had ZERO clue how big it was gonna be... they were just told by their supervisor "Generators here, but we gotta grab it from outside the gate, who's got a truck?" Sucks that you couldn't get on the base, but frankly you were probably better off unloading there.
We have a military base here. I've worked on it a couple of times doing electrical work for contractors unlucky enough to win a bid there. I agree with your take. He was probably better off unloading there.
Hating life isn’t required to work there, they are more than happy to train you to hate life. Maybe it’s a bubblehead thing, I don’t know, went there from an Aircraft Carrier,
I'm surprised they didn't just try and make him give the keys to his truck to some Joe so they could take it in. With a company truck I wouldn't give a crap so long as their going to pay for any damage. If it's my truck and it's an older whip like that. Nah bro... This truck is older than you by a lot and I served long enough to know that you got voluntold to come play truck driver and your not qualified for my insurance rate. 😂
I still work on my old Navy base. Just a certain few people ruin it every day for someone. They do not know what to do so they make bad decisions until they get told off by their bosses.
I was BORN on a Navy base. Unfortunately, I can't visit it anymore. IT'S NOT THERE! (NavSta Long Beach, Calif. My dad was a Hospital Corpsman stationed there). I wound up joining the Navy myself (1964-68) I served aboard the USS Enterprise as a Radarman from 1966-68, got out for four years, then joined the Air Force as a Radar Technician from 1972-88, when I retired.
In the 1960's I made a delivery at an USAF base. I was pulling an enclosed van. The civilian guard asked me if I knew where I was going. I told him I knew about where the building I was to deliver to as I had been stationed at that base. When I left the civilian guard just waved me through and never looked inside my trailer . I could have hauled anything out of there. So much for security.
That was better than one trucker we hired to haul a couple of boxes to Eglin AFB from Baltimore. We paid for the whole truck although we only used about 1/3rd of the box. He finally showed up at Eglin 5 days late and the door seal was broken so he got an escort into a little room for about four hours before he said he filled the box with other loads on the way to Eglin. The only thing that kept out of jail was the seals on our containers were not broken. Since he was hauling classified radar jamming equipment he would have enjoyed a long vacation with free room, board, and health care for a while.
That was 60’s though. Truth is it still happens today, sometimes you have good guards and sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you have one sleeping with the gate up. It’s crazy to me though.
Well, Steve…you’re probably nicer than I! If I was treated like that,and have left, and then received a call saying “come back, park across the street, will unload you there” id have charged to go back, or tell them they can retrieve their delivery at the next truck stop!
@@JamesStern-y7g So the person who ordered the item to get delivered, should never have ordered it to begin with and expect the item to be delivered on base. This is the fault of the person who ordered this item if he/she knew of problems getting the item on base.
@@kylekyle7386 it's not the person who ordered the items fault they have no idea who delivering as far as the driver the sibs the driver and his companies fault thr company knew he had no clearance or background check and send d he.
@@JamesStern-y7g It is. If such clearance is needed, then it was their responsibility to ensure that whoever was delivering the cargo would have such a clearance. You cannot expect the outside third party to be privy to your own security hassles.
I had issues like this when I was in the Air Force, I was a Machinist and we were waiting for a delivery of equipment we purchased and required a contracted crew to assemble and calibrate it by the manufacturer. We informed them that we would meet them at the visitor center to sponsor them onto base in order for them to get day passes for their trucks. We told them every crew member needed an ID and if any crew member had a felony conviction, they wouldn't be able to get on base. The contractors said they felt insulted we would make any notion of their crew members being convicts and our response was we tell every contractor that statement as a precaution to make sure their aren't any hiccups. Well building day had arrived and they brought 10 guys as well as their supervisor to the job. I personally met them at the visitor center for registration and to get them their day pass. No shit 2 of them didn't bring any ID and 1 of them had a felony on their background check. The driver with the equipment? Pulled out a TWIC card and Base Police scanned it and gave him a pass without even needing me to sponsor them, he knew the rules and it wasn't his first rodeo with us either. The contractors? Only had 5 guys and the supervisor coming onto the base to do the job....it took me 5 hours just to get everything together....and we only had 6 hours left before they had to leave the base for closing hours. It took us a week and a half to get it done and me and 4 other airmen had to pitch in to get it finished. I learned a lot on how to do rigging from that experience and actually got cerified as an operator, an inspector, and a trainer for that equipment because of my hours put into learning how to do it and technically got trained on how to set them up. That certification got me my job when I got out of the Air Force so...silver lining? I feel your frustration!
I just happened to read the title. Former Navy guy. I just loved the beginning when you said "the mighty Susquehanna river." Then seeing Mehoopany, PA. AKA P & G. Used to deliver logs there.
I was a Army MP in the 80's when come up on something like this we would normally have one of the secondary MP at gate escort them by sitting in cab with then to their destination ,there was always a E-6/ Staff Sgt. on duty that is mainly running around supervising everyone so they were free to roam.
Back in the 70"s my father was transferred to Groton to run the machine shops or some damn thing. I don't get the impression he liked it there very much. Some years ago I went to Jacksonville Naval Air Station to pick him and my stepmother from a MAC flight from Va. I got there and at the gate there was two military and one civilian police officers there. The gate guard asked for my ID so I gave her my license and told her I was there to pick up my family on said MAC flight that was landing now. Before she could say a word the lady civilian cop (Jax pd maybe) snatched my id from her and started screaming at me that I wasn't military and wasn't allowed on base. She was yelling that they would have to call a cab to ride off base and I would have to get them there. She got in front of my car and was losing her shit yelling this isn't an open base and I can't be there. Then she told me to park in a lot just off to the right but wouldn't move out of the way. Finally I parked when she stopped yelling and that's about when the truck of other MP's showed up. She was telling them I couldn't be there and gave them my id. Big dude with his m4 or m16 walked up to my car and asked what was I doing there. I told him, and he could not have been nicer. Super professional. He said they were doing an exercise with the anti intrusion system and when it was done, he would get someone in a vehicle for me to follow to the terminal. We talked submarines and navy stuff while we waited and then I was on my way, no issue. Dropping them off for the return MAC, the guard at the gate said proceed, just go straight off base when I was done. Besides this visit to JNAS, I went to Virginia Beach when pops was stationed there to visit him and went on board the USS Atlanta. That was awesome. He came home on leave when The Hunt for Red October came out, we went to see it and I wore the Atlanta hat he gave me. Got some looks when we were walking out.
@@patverum9051 When I was in FTO out of the academy, one of my field trainers was a woman cop. She acted more manly than the men. A real pain to work with.
Just landed on your channel,, been watching your videos,, breath of fresh air,, no crap,, says it as it is awesome, 30 years a driver in Australia 🇦🇺👍👌😀
I worked for E.S.C.A as an, truck driver/analox roll cleaner. Analox rolls are cylinder newspaper printing press ink plates. To clean the rolls we use baking soda like sandblasting. YEAH! We called it blasting powder, and most bases have printer's, and you don't want to tell them I have 35 lb bags on 16 pallets of blasting powder!
I used to drive truck, only a 24' bob tail, but doing 500 miles plus every day. I had to make a delivery to a prison in Lathrop, Ca., and they wouldn't let me in, although I've made many deliveries to other prisons like San Quinton. They tell me I can't enter because I've been fingerprinted! WTF? Never been arrested, Never been convicted of any crime! I have been finger printed many times, becoming an Instructor for CDFG, Sheriffs Dept., CHP, Highschool coach, ATF, and never been refused entry to any place, accept the one prison. The way I do it is, hey you can accept it, or I'll take it back and you'll get it when we're damn good and ready to redeliver for a second attempt delivery charge! By the way, you can tell they're civilians, over weight and walking around with their hands in their pockets! Being a military brat myself, I know how this crap works!
A friend of mine delivered goods to "Secure" army bases. He was once stopped and told, he wasn't allowed in to deliver a load, so he dropped it in their car park, said good luck picking that up from the ground, threw paperwork out of his window as he left. They had to apologise as it proved nigh on impossible for them to move it without the specialist lifting gear, fitted on the back of his truck. That was in the 1980s and we laughed over it for many years.
I drove down to West Pt years ago to visit my grandson at Hockey camp on base. What A hassle to fill out paperwork to get on base (had a long wait, 2 tour buses of passengers ahead of me). Finally grandson walked to gate got in my Jeep and we drove on base using his ID. While going to his wedding prior to Covid at the old Ft Benning we had to go and fill out paperwork to be admitted on base a few days prior to wedding. They were much more efficient.
Delivered to government facilities, military bases, done service work at same. You are correct 100%, civilian employees are the worst as the rule there ! Glad to be Retired Now
Yea, their is a huge differences when you are talking to a solider and a civilian. Its night and day. Glad you was able to get the load off with great working people at the base.
As a former army soldier, I can honestly tell you that the civilians that work on military bases are some of the biggest A-holes ever, especially if they are retired army NCOs.
Yessir' ! I agree. I went to enlist @/w. Selective service. I was denied. (Not physically developed enough to qualify. Underweight.! And... Only child. 1ST one made me feel 2inches tall. Could split 2- flies frolicking @50yrds. With a rifle. Not hand to hand
There is always 1 A hole in every group, they got alittle power and always gotta use it , too try and feel important. You will always be ahead of that guy in life Steve.
What base? When I was in the Air Force, I was stationed at a co-located Air Force radar site at the Hawthorne, Nevada Ammunition Depot. The Marines had a habit of sending their "problem" Marines there! "Out of sight, out of mind", I guess! (It's now the Hawthorne Army Depot, after the Army took over).
Why is a background check necessary to deliver something to a military base? Someone at the base or the DoD ordered it. If they're concerned about security just have appropriate police or security personnel escort the driver to/from the delivery point.
It SOP, as a contractor with had stuff that needed to be delivered to base, the drivers license, registration of truck, insurance and SS#, had to be given to base security minimum three day BEFORE coming on base...
For any driver taking a load for a military installation, I always recommend to call the Provost Marshal and see the requirements to gain access. Each base commander is responsible for determining base access requirements. For example, Ft. Hood does a 20 year back ground check and many things may come up. Yet another instillation may inly do a seven year back ground check. Some allow TWIC cards while others may not. I’ve dealt with a lot of dumb reasons why a driver could not get on Hood (Cavazos) and had to hook up to the drivers trailer and make the delivery for them (worked for a local wrecker/haul truck company. Call ahead if possible.
I got refused entry at Vandenberg for something that is 30 plus years. The rule is 10 years but it’s up to the individual base security officer. I have a TWIC/KTN/DOD&DOE clearance and worked at Votgle Nuclear Power Station for 90 days. I went the the Gate pulled in for the safety check, and then was told that I could not Enter. They told me the Major in Charge had a problem with my BG check and I could call a service they use to get the load delivered. So I pulled back out and dropped my trailer and a local guy with a Tri axle day cab picked it up and delivered it for $250.00. Seemed like a racket were this base security guy was getting a cut. The Very next day I delivered to FT Irwin, then San Bernardino with out issue. You can get the decision reversed but it takes a while and then next time you don’t have to worry about it.
That speeding ticket is no joke. It's reached private sector. Virginia got both my daughters. One for a police internship which she straightened out okay. My other lost her babysitting job. Virginia doesn't tell out of staters if you pay your ticket by mail, it's a guilty plea. Her home state said she's fine here and there's no record of it.
OH HELL.,, I was a Groton Navy Base Sailor for most of my 26 year Military career. After navy retirement I worked as a Submarine Sail Rep contractor on that base for another 20 years. I was an Antenna REP for all the units stationed there. LOL! That bridge theory has been going on as long as I have been a Sub Sailor. They wont bomb us... They will NUKE US. That bridge just wont matter! LOL! I wish you and I could have met up while I was in Groton.. . I would have been able to get you a tour on a 688 & 774 class boat. You would have been severely impressed!!! Give some time to tour the Sub Museum tour!! . I'm a sub Sailor and I was impressed with the tour... The GOLD STAR BRIDGE. LOL!! Cant tell you how many times I've been across that span! The base is 7 miles from the point that you are at on the bridge. YES,, Security on the base is a SOB. But,, Its Got to be that way! AH,, The old Gold Star Motors lot! Been vacant for Years! LMFAO,, That civilian Security guy in the security office is a COMPLETE TOTAL ASS HOLE! Needs to be taken down a few notches! Is and has been for YEARS! Just a POS. My lord! I've been away from Groton for 4 Years and I have NEVER seen a load picked up from an Off Base lot! INSANE! I'm glad you got to deliver your load. Stay Safe and Be Alert! Subscribes and liked!!
I spent some time going on and off that base as well back in the day. I always used the river road entrance. In addition to the Marine gate guards there was a Naval officer inside as well. Officer Of the Deck (OOD) no civilian contractors The OOD could override any bad decision or controversy. SSBN-602
@@602STS2 Oh, You were a SHOWER TECH,, LOL! I spent some time in the Shack as an FT (Deployment Watch Station) so I hear ya. Man, Times have changed on Base! That Front Gate is Massive and there is NO LONGER any Marine Guards. There are Civilian Security Guards sublimated by Navy Security Force Watch Standers. There are still the Duty Chief and Duty Officer but, You don't see them until there's a big issue or SHTF. The old Laundry/ Dry Cleaners (Fusconies (SP?) is gone and that road has a weird roundabout type reconfigure. The Gate that FFC Trucking had to use is the new Truck/Shipping entry and Inspection Gate and its on the same road as the Main Gate. FSC is right on target. Getting on Base as a trucker/Shipper is DEEPLY REGULATED. If you have farted wrong in the last 20 Years, They deny you access. My old Boomer Days consisted of SSBN 617, SSBN 635 and SSBN 624. My last Boat was USS Miami, SSN-755 (God Rest Her Soul). River Road is still going Strong. The Natalis Museum Is there and its always BUSY!
@@602STS2Back in the 70's, I worked on the Orion in Charleston. One of the hardest jobs we did was (basically) build the vapor compressors for 602 and (IIRC) 603, up at the weapons station. First and only boomer I was on.
@@nickmalone3143 LOL!! Funny you should ask. I'm not a BAR person. I was there once to find and rescue a shipmate. Other than that I have driven past it a 2000 and that's about it. I been to Guam 5 times and never visited the Horse and Cow. I don't know. Just never had to need to go to the Bars. I get invited and go to the local Chiefs Associations for special occasions like Pinning Ons or Chiefs Initiations etc. .
When I worked security at an Army base, we never did background checks on delivery drivers. Hell, we had a pizza delivery driver who claimed that he was ex KGB. No one cared. Mysterious warrants and odd things popping up in the system was almost always related to a nasty divorce. My advice to you is to find out what is popping up when people do a cursory background check on you, and be prepared to sue someone.
Having Been a Civilian Guard at Ft Lewis at one point in time, we were told they needed us there to free up military personel for Deployments. We don't all act like asses, however if you are a cab driver coming onto post with a dwi punch on yer license you had to have court papers allowing you to work, I made sure to see that every time those people came through my gate. It was protocol, I heard later those drivers were complaining about having to show the papers. Tough Shit you shouldnt have driven drunk to get your license suspended. But guards there were fired regularly for fucking up.
I remember going to Ft Polk. Civilian in the TMO sent me on a wild goose chase. I was lucky enough to have had the base commander roll up on me wanting to know why I was where I was.? He saw what was on my RGN. I followed him back to the TMO and watched the joker get escorted off base.When Clinton cut the personel levels at our bases. The problems began. I stand firmly behind my statement. NO civilian should have anything to do on a base.
I was born on that base in 65. I go there from time to time to shop at the Exchange. As retired military who worked with union civilians I understand your pain
Yep, I was denied entry to a weapons depot that I was contracted to do an abatement job on. Yet my 2 workers with murder convictions were allowed in. All my records show is 4 years probation.
I guess it's too simple to build a separate drop yard / warehouse isolated from the main base then have pre-cleared individuals take everything inside the security perimeter.
That would make too much sense for our ever increasing nonsensical government. I would have hauled the generator right back to the manufacturer and told them that they refused the load. Let them pay twice to get it, and maybe old grumpy would have his ass chewed by his immediate supervisor.
Many places are going that route. Nowadays with so many overzealous police, and govt over-reach, anybody has a past. If they want their crap, they better find a way.
As someone who has been through some of the same BS that you went through @ the Naval Base, I’m truly sorry you went through that! They should have worked with you to help you straighten this whole mess out! I have no tolerance for jerks like that! NONE!!
@@taranwilliamson1931 did you ever serve in the Military? If so, what branch and what was/is your MOS? Your comment leads me to believe you have no Military experience at all. When Gate Security is being covered by Civilian personnel, it is not their job to escort anyone. However!!!!!!!!!! It is their job to pass this on the MP's or SP's. They are the ones to make that call depending on the "Mission Critical" needs of the load. This SOP! I know what I'm talking about as a 20 year Veteran. I am no longer active. But I have family and many friends that are still active. What are your qualifications for giving such an answer?
@@MadMax-pt3yk I am currently serving in the navy. I work at the gates. Whoever is receiving the load is supposed to meet Ave escort the driver. It isn’t the MAs job
@@taranwilliamson1931 Thank you for serving our Country! The Navy is a great branch. Their mission is different due to the nature of ordinances received. (This is my assumption) I don't know much about Navy or Marines. I was in the United States Army! Regarding this video. We don't know what this RUclipsrs history check revealed. We only know what he's willing to admit. All Military gates have an SOP regarding entry. That also depends on our Nations current threat level. Had this load been mission critical, arrangements could have permitted this trucker to enter. And let's be honest, the people on duty at the time also play a major role. That role is their willingness to go the extra mile. There are other factors we won't mention. But the way this load was handled is concerning. I certainly hope all precautions were met even with the entry ultimately being done by an active duty member.
@@MadMax-pt3yk thank you for your service sir. the history check could absolutely be a part of it, but usually if a trucker only goes to base once in a blue moon they have to be sponsored on by somebody with a CAC. The people on duty do indeed play a part, but at least at my installation there isn’t any guard who’d let somebody who doesn’t have a TWIC, DBIDS, or other form of valid credential on base. The difference is in how much we help them figure out what they need to do to make their delivery. Typically I try to do everything short of just letting them on, cuz if I let them on and something bad happens that’s my ass
Hey Steve. I got a better way to say it than waving a life preserver... if I were a bartender and he order it on the rocks, I'd give it to him straight on a pile of railroad gravel in the Arizona sun at 2 p.m. Nice and toasty. The booze too.
Had occasion to visit the White House Communications Agency. Support center for WH near Boiling AFB outside DC. They have US Marines at their gate. Sitting behind 3 inches of bullet proof glass with an M16 in a rack at his side hangs a sign which reads “A Marine on Duty Has No Friends”. Still always cordial and very professional.
I got refused entry to China Lake Weapons Testing Station once, on active duty. I was on terminal leave (90 days) and was given temporary ID when I went on leave and they took my green ID. The (civilian) at the gate wouldn't even look at it. My car had a Navy stucker on it and all! I called the base XO to enquire why I couldn't go to the Base Exchange? He sent down a Senior Chief to get me through. The civilian wasn't happy....😊
My old man nearly got gunned down at a nuclear power plant in the early 80s, because between the point he entered the base to drop multiple air compressors of similar size to this generator, and the point of parking, the forklift drivers went on strike. 29 hours later, his delirious self decided to unload himself, and climbed on a forklift to do so. After getting 2 dozenish guns in his face, one of the forklift union reps witnessed, inquired, and flat out screamed at a driver to unload him. He wasn't allowed back on base, but, he doesn't care.
Steve, thank you for the ride-along on that part of I-95 (minus the stretch from Branford TO Groton,lol). That used to be part of my stomping grounds during my 20 year stint as a livery car driver in Connecticut.
Could be a pending charge that was never adjudicated or something that was adjudicated and some clerk failed to update your file. That was a gentle off-loading. BANG! Oh, well.
41:52 DoD civilians do swear an oath of office when they are hired. The pas and ID/gate guys aren't allowed to share details, only if access is denied or granted. They don't have any control over what is written. There is a DoD process for civilians to get pre-screened so it is smoother at the gate. It would be worth pursing that process if you deliver to bases often.
The civilian employees are considered federal employees who do take an oath. Contract employees do not. I hope you filed a complaint and also get what ever information the ole geezer was basing the entry issue is purged from court records.
We left Groton in 1978 when my father medically retired from the Navy as a Senior Chief Radioman who was on the Danial Boone 629, George Bancroft 643. Lived about a mile from the main gate. Use to walk to ROCK LAKE on base.
Cool shout out to the Cobia. I slept on it when I was in the scouts back in the day. I think you can rent it like an air bnb now. They point out on the tour that the Cobia itself wasn't built in Manitowoc, but yeah, its a Gato class which they did build. But they built more landing craft than anything there, 20 something subs, 40 something landing craft I think. Same shipyard is basically still there, its Burger Boats now. Thats also where those big ass blue cranes are being assembled on the river.
I drove an old freightliner cab over for a local company. Loved driving it. I also drove an Argosy freightliner. Wow. No dog house to deal with. Be careful.
The JFK is a conventionally powered ship, the Enterprise was too difficult to remove the nuclear components to make it a museum ship, it would wreck the ship to clean it.
I attended the deactivation ceremony for the Enterprise and they did mention why the ceremony was during the deactivation rather than the decommissioning: To decommission a nuclear carrier, particularly the Enterprise, you have to cut huge holes in the hull to remove all 8 reactors, which would not leave the ship in a very presentable condition..
I did that kind of work for over 45 years ,Sorry to see you had so much drama over so simple a load . there were some places i went to so often there would be times when i was there they would ask me if i had time to bring in another persons load as they couldn't be allowed to come on base . One base i went too so often they gave me a 90 day pass so as not to hold me up going thru all the checks every time ..Good luck brother .
I was in the Navy 21 years. The last 6 in security and the last 4 as a Chief Petty Officer. I was constantly called out to the gate for instances just like this. Everytime i would have to tell them to stand down and let this guy on base. Some were ok but most just loved playing a power trip.
I've been on and off many Base, All Branches as a Civilian and never had issues....In personal automobile and in Trucks hauling freight....My license was sufficient...But I am no trouble maker and show respect...
Steve I visited the sub at Patriot point in 1989 stood on the foredeck with the con tower in the back ground Took a picture waring a official The Hunt For Red October Hat Unfortunately you are correct The sub has been scrapped parts have been saved and placed on exhibit on the the USS Yorktown CV - 10 As a coincidence this video came out a few days after the death of James Earl Jones passed away who played the admiral in that movie
12:00 I haven’t even gotten to the base encounter yet. I’m just enjoying the ride in a 1984 cabover Peterbilt! That’s just something we don’t see in California anymore. The California Air Resources Board, aka CARB, has pretty much removed all pre-BluDEF trucks from California. I haven’t seen a cabover in California, in years. I liked and subscribed just for that and your camera angles. I guess that I’ll start the video again. P.S. I’m not a trucker. I did drive for Greyhound for a few years, back in the 1980s, prior to changing careers. I have the greatest respect for safe, professional drivers.
U and i met at mats 2023.. I understand your problems getting onto base in grotten. I have previous security clearance from the navy though it's actually harder to get on a navy facility than army or air force, no experience with space force YET.. I feel your resentment to younger issues regardless.. Keep up the great videos..
When I used to deliver gas to the NEX gas station at the Bangor sub base in WA they have Navy sentry guards at the gate and I’ve never had any issues, they checked the paperwork my ID and inspect the truck and trailer before proceeding to the NEX.
I’ve picked up and delivered on a few bases. I’m always amazed by the inconsistency in security standards. Mainly when it comes to ID’s. I’ve even been to the lower base there in Groton. Only base that made me leave ALL electronics in a bag with them at the gate, but never came out to search the cab or anything.
I use to work for Trane, we had a contract at the sub base, first off, the clearances and background checks are manditory.. the inspections suck, and upper base is fine. But the second you tell them your working on lower base, expect a shit ton of aggressiveness... and usually 2 guards on your ass all the time.
Sorry you got treated badly at the contractors gate by the old 😮civilian. As a union council for public works that includes transportation. I can tell you that the old civilian is not a member of Union 854. If he was that, interaction would be inappropriate. Also, I believe he is not a member of any union on the base that I can find. Safe travels, and thanks for what you do. Union council rep for 854
I was at that drop lot in Mehoopany yesterday, I'm there frequently. (I bring boxes from Camillus NY to there). Picked up around the corner at their warehouse in Tunkhannock on Rt.6. Stay safe out there.
I see they changed the main gate setup since I was there last in early 90's - I was heading to Sub Training there passing Through Dallas as JFK was shot in 63 - I got out of boot camp on the 21st, the day before - I was in New York in the early 90's for work and was driving a rental Volvo with my business partner riding shotgun - I was wearing a green jacket that looked like our Navy Faul Weather jackets and the Marine Guard at the gate just saluted us through - I was able to drive all over the base with no issues other than the Sub Pen where the boats were tied up - there was a second gate there - the base and trees had changed so much I could not recognize anything -
Hauled a Army tank, running, like new, with ammo in boxes I believe. Moved it from Maine to Newport News, just outside of DC, they told me I had to leave. No TWIC. I said, "I have a tank, I loaded it, it has ammo and you want me to leave?" yes, you have to leave. Went in and out 2 times and finally paid $30.00 and unloaded on the third trip time. Later I got the TWIC because the Port of Baltimore was becoming a pain. After I got it, pulled up, handed them the TWIC, they said, "give me your driver's license, we don't have a TWIC card reader."
I actually sorta feel your pain on this one. Whenever I try to get on Fort Bragg to make deliveries to the Firestones on base theres one guy in the building that seems to always want to be an ass. Asked him one time if they had a restroom I could use and he got snottier than usual and said they were outside and up the road.
I always flash lights to help truckers as a civilian because when I do haul a trailer, it helps...however seems times are changing and rarely do they acknowledge anymore... Is this only among drivers now? Stay safe.
There is an art to driving on the interstates. Unfortunately, some will never matter that. Start with, if you are in thr high speed lane and see people approaching from behind, change lanes. When you pass, give the person that you are passing plenty of room. Be considerate of people merging on the entrance ramp! I have never driven a big rig, but i have put tens of thousands of highway miles on motorcycles.
Years ago. When 911 was still fresh. I had a delivery at vandenberg afb in california. They didn't guve me a hard time . And I was looking rough. The load was refridgerated freight for the on base store. The guard just checked the seal. Took a look in my messy cab and gave me directions.
I had to deal with assholes just like him when I was in the army. Almost all of these guys are ex- military NCOs who still live to make everyone around them miserable because they are miserable.
I used to deliver copy paper to a Federal Reserve bank many years ago. Big bob truck. After you go through the entrance gate, you approach some big steel doors. When they open you pull in, shut it off and sit still. The doors close and you're locked in a big steel room, cameras everywhere, small platform and a door. Several armed guys come out, some watch you, (M-16s or ARs) the rest go over your whole truck (say hi to the doggy! No, Don't do that.) and then they disappear. You wait. Then you go out the other side when it opens and you can unload and leave it on the dock...still under armed watch. State Police kept their copy paper in the evidence room, "just put it in there". All kinds of stuff in there. I saw 2,499 pounds and 15 ounces of coke once.
Had a guy at a bnsf rail yard entrance. Does not work directly for BNSF but thought he did. Same deal, biggest a hole ever but in my situation I am a BNSF journeyman Carman turned trucker and knew who to call. After that he stopped bugging me but continued to yell at everyone else. I don't understand how those people exist if they are that wound up 24/7
They are just dicks because they know they can be, and know most people won't stand up to them for fear of losing their job. The postal service is just full of these A-holes, if you've ever had to deliver to a bulk mail center.
As a Vet, and a former federal civilian, I have to correct you on a couple of things. As a federal civilian employee, I recall having to take an oath just like my military one. I was Army, but I would think the process was the same. And, while there are definitely some dingballs as civilians, the fact they remain there is a leadership problem in my opinion and experience. It takes effort and time, but you can effect a termination if you have to. So while I completely understand why you'd be upset, I think it's unfair to paint on federal civilians the same way. As a matter of fact, as a federal civilian, you are a non-uniformed member of the service you work for, but have different responsibilities, and that does not make you less accountable. And frankly, I had to deal with years of prejudice of my civilian status by military members and it's one reason I elected to leave after almost 15 years of combined military and civilian service.
Yeah, I used to go to that navy base all the time. They are pretty Strict., they don't go by the twic card. They have their own background checks. I think the backround check was good for 6 months not sure I'm retired from trucking.
Did you check in with your TWIC? It really streamlines your check in at military installations, they don’t necessarily ask for it but are always pleased when I offer it because it cuts the BS they go through in half
I'm pretty sure all of the classified secret areas are guarded by men with automatic rifles and signs before you even get to them marked USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED. You would never make it to the submarine pens alive, and this was just overkill for nothing.
I delivered to a military installation in Groton CT, it was the same deal with the drama, but I got in. The worst is Electric Boat in Quonset RI; they take your phone at the gate which in understand; the most boring 3 hour offload of my life!
No wonder you were out of sorts. At least you could drive away. The decent military guy works there all the time. I'm surprised he didn't tell the guy to back down, you've gone too far.
Yep, I can tell you, being that I’m a retired Chief Petty Officer of 21 years. Usually the civilians that are grumbly. Better chance than not those folks are usually ex military themselves with a grudge of some sort. Wish I could totally understand why but probably never will. Cool vids as usual brother. I grew up in CT before joining the Navy back in 86. Aloha 🍍
14:30 Unless it was a surprise attack, all subs that COULD sail WOULD have already sailed. Electric Boat, Groton (one of the few places in the U.S. still building submarines and able to provide refits/repairs to subs) is south of I-95. There are other things in place to help prevent subs from being trapped north of the Gold Star Memorial Bridge, so even if the bridges (there's a train bridge crossing the Thames there) were brought down, subs might still be able to get by the wreckage.
@@fsctrucking During my stint in the Navy, I briefly worked at Water Transportation in Pearl Harbor and scraped barnacles off the U.S.S. Arizona Memorial in a fiberglass dinghy while bouncing off the actual Arizona at low tide. It had to be done after the memorial closed for the day and so we rowed out there at sunset. Eerie.
I used to deliver equipment on a Air Force base at the international Airport in Pittsburgh....they checked everything including background...my one coworker was denied because he had a record from 15 yrs ago and was resolved
I drove a box truck through the wrong gate at Scott AFB. The female MP stopped me and informed me that I had entered the wrong gate. I asked her if I should turn around and use the correct gate. She said NO, you are already on the base jus go to your destination. The next time I came in, I went to the correct gate. But, they stopped me and put the dogs in my truck. It only took about 10 minutes for the dogs to do their thing. Then I went to the BX.
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17:55, the Kennedy is boiler drive, not nuclear
I'm not sure why I thought it was. Thank you for the correction.
@@fsctruckingThe Kennedy was initially supposed to be nuclear powered. Budget for that era dictated a change to conventional boilers. Spent several years as supervisor for number three engine room. Great ship. Sad to see her mothballed.
Somewhere around Feb 89, I was in a Navy School with another BT that was from Kennedy. He took me over to see what a 1200 PSI fire room capable of Cat launches looked like. How they used to push the pressure right up to the lowest boiler safety lift pressure
I was over on Little Creek Amphib base on a 600 PSI gator freighter
@@Lloyd973 thank you and all veterans for your service God Bless you
@@allan9603 I find that doubtful as Steve is an Air Farce vet.
I got stuck at Ft Knox one night for 3hrs. Went in to swap out a 329 Cat, escort waiting outside. Could only go in through one gate due to the railroad bridges that run through base. Went in swapped units came back to the gate, They where closing the gate wouldn't let me through. When i climbed out of the truck to ask where i could go to get out, Was yelled at and told to get back in my truck and turn around (civilian security). Drove to all of the rail bridges 2 where to low, and the 3rd was 2 narrow. Couldn't get any answer on any phone number for the gates. Ended up parking by the air field close to the Apaches with all my lights and strobes on. That got someone to come help me immediately (actual military security). They managed to get me a gate I could get out. 3hrs driving around inside a military base, Unreal.
Yeah always get satisfaction from the MP/AP/SP/BPs since they have the overriding authority.
Did that myself what a cluster after delivery down by the tunnel warfare training area.🫣😄
civi security is the biggest backwards thing for a military base, the same here in Australia, the things we used to show these idiots to get on base and theyd wave us through aslong as we were in uniform, unreal. the same people that did security, looks after the mess and accom also. you get 1 rasher of bacon and as a result the price of a meal at the mess went up in price.
Great tactic to arouse attention.
I had a nightmare like that making a furniture delivery to a high end building...We had tons of garbage and just wanted out of the building ...unfortunately different elevators with key fob access turned it into a shit show... we were ready to fight the security just to get out of the building...that we were literally locked in. they told us after that we weren't allowed to deliver without an appointment. Communication is non existant sometimes.
As a former submariner, don't sweat getting kiicked off the base. You aren't missing anything, I promise you. The best look at Groton is in the rear view mirror.
Nobody got kicked out of anywhere never got in and they had him do a U-turn that's what a gate is for getting kicked off a bass you have to be on it first
Oh wow now I'm watching the end of your video and you had a TWIC card this is pretty crazy I'm going to guess that whoever was working the front gate there is an idiot and dropped the ball
Think it’s more about making him waist time when he has another load to drop. It’s all time.
That's how I feel about Las Vegas
Rotten Groton is what we said as kids growing up near there 60 years ago.
I brought a load of steel coil onto a base in Texas with a co-driver. Going thru the gate to check in the guard asked for our TWIC cards . Me being prepared took mine out with a smile thinking I was smart and doing the right thing. The co- driver told the guard he didn’t have his card and was told he would have to wait in the air conditioned waiting room while I proceeded onto the base to off load. First time experience with Texas heat . Bring water , lots of water
As a TWIC holder, you can escort your CO driver or anyone Else up to 5 people in a TWIC required area
The base commander has the authority to determine what is appropriate for access. Ft Hood does a 20 year back ground check and will deny access for various reasons. Either you have a military ID card, a 30 day temp ID pass or a one year temporary ID card. Other instillations have a more ‘laxed’ requirement or may require an escort from entry to exit.
I no longer serviceTex-Ass.
Feel free to ask why😮😢
@@dirtybird437 that is true up to 5 people,
@@dirtybird437every base or post is different.
Was stationed at that base about 21 years ago.... I'm fairly certain a job requirement for the civilians there is that you are required to hate life itself. Whether or not they share that misery is completely on them. Guaranteed the dudes that showed up to pick up that generator had ZERO clue how big it was gonna be... they were just told by their supervisor "Generators here, but we gotta grab it from outside the gate, who's got a truck?" Sucks that you couldn't get on the base, but frankly you were probably better off unloading there.
We have a military base here. I've worked on it a couple of times doing electrical work for contractors unlucky enough to win a bid there. I agree with your take. He was probably better off unloading there.
Hating life isn’t required to work there, they are more than happy to train you to hate life. Maybe it’s a bubblehead thing, I don’t know, went there from an Aircraft Carrier,
I'm surprised they didn't just try and make him give the keys to his truck to some Joe so they could take it in. With a company truck I wouldn't give a crap so long as their going to pay for any damage. If it's my truck and it's an older whip like that. Nah bro... This truck is older than you by a lot and I served long enough to know that you got voluntold to come play truck driver and your not qualified for my insurance rate. 😂
One thing I really like ( respect) about you Steve - you don’t change for anyone. Stay safe and keep on trucking.
I still work on my old Navy base. Just a certain few people ruin it every day for someone. They do not know what to do so they make bad decisions until they get told off by their bosses.
I was BORN on a Navy base. Unfortunately, I can't visit it anymore. IT'S NOT THERE! (NavSta Long Beach, Calif. My dad was a Hospital Corpsman stationed there).
I wound up joining the Navy myself (1964-68) I served aboard the USS Enterprise as a Radarman from 1966-68, got out for four years, then joined the Air Force as a Radar Technician from 1972-88, when I retired.
In the 1960's I made a delivery at an USAF base. I was pulling an enclosed van. The civilian guard asked me if I knew where I was going. I told him I knew about where the building I was to deliver to as I had been stationed at that base. When I left the civilian guard just waved me through and never looked inside my trailer . I could have hauled anything out of there. So much for security.
That was better than one trucker we hired to haul a couple of boxes to Eglin AFB from Baltimore. We paid for the whole truck although we only used about 1/3rd of the box. He finally showed up at Eglin 5 days late and the door seal was broken so he got an escort into a little room for about four hours before he said he filled the box with other loads on the way to Eglin. The only thing that kept out of jail was the seals on our containers were not broken. Since he was hauling classified radar jamming equipment he would have enjoyed a long vacation with free room, board, and health care for a while.
That was 60’s though. Truth is it still happens today, sometimes you have good guards and sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you have one sleeping with the gate up. It’s crazy to me though.
Many people have! The amount of gear the department of defence is missing is huge!
Well, that is definitely not how things go these days.
Well, Steve…you’re probably nicer than I! If I was treated like that,and have left, and then received a call saying “come back, park across the street, will unload you there” id have charged to go back, or tell them they can retrieve their delivery at the next truck stop!
Unless you have a security clearance or background already done For that Bass they're not going to let you on.
@@JamesStern-y7g So the person who ordered the item to get delivered, should never have ordered it to begin with and expect the item to be delivered on base. This is the fault of the person who ordered this item if he/she knew of problems getting the item on base.
@@kylekyle7386 it's not the person who ordered the items fault they have no idea who delivering as far as the driver the sibs the driver and his companies fault thr company knew he had no clearance or background check and send d he.
Welcome to Earth.
Beware the natives😮😢🙄@@JamesStern-y7g
@@JamesStern-y7g It is. If such clearance is needed, then it was their responsibility to ensure that whoever was delivering the cargo would have such a clearance. You cannot expect the outside third party to be privy to your own security hassles.
I had issues like this when I was in the Air Force, I was a Machinist and we were waiting for a delivery of equipment we purchased and required a contracted crew to assemble and calibrate it by the manufacturer. We informed them that we would meet them at the visitor center to sponsor them onto base in order for them to get day passes for their trucks. We told them every crew member needed an ID and if any crew member had a felony conviction, they wouldn't be able to get on base. The contractors said they felt insulted we would make any notion of their crew members being convicts and our response was we tell every contractor that statement as a precaution to make sure their aren't any hiccups. Well building day had arrived and they brought 10 guys as well as their supervisor to the job. I personally met them at the visitor center for registration and to get them their day pass. No shit 2 of them didn't bring any ID and 1 of them had a felony on their background check. The driver with the equipment? Pulled out a TWIC card and Base Police scanned it and gave him a pass without even needing me to sponsor them, he knew the rules and it wasn't his first rodeo with us either. The contractors? Only had 5 guys and the supervisor coming onto the base to do the job....it took me 5 hours just to get everything together....and we only had 6 hours left before they had to leave the base for closing hours. It took us a week and a half to get it done and me and 4 other airmen had to pitch in to get it finished. I learned a lot on how to do rigging from that experience and actually got cerified as an operator, an inspector, and a trainer for that equipment because of my hours put into learning how to do it and technically got trained on how to set them up. That certification got me my job when I got out of the Air Force so...silver lining? I feel your frustration!
I just happened to read the title. Former Navy guy. I just loved the beginning when you said "the mighty Susquehanna river." Then seeing Mehoopany, PA. AKA P & G. Used to deliver logs there.
I was a Army MP in the 80's when come up on something like this we would normally have one of the secondary MP at gate escort them by sitting in cab with then to their destination ,there was always a E-6/ Staff Sgt. on duty that is mainly running around supervising everyone so they were free to roam.
Back in the 70"s my father was transferred to Groton to run the machine shops or some damn thing. I don't get the impression he liked it there very much. Some years ago I went to Jacksonville Naval Air Station to pick him and my stepmother from a MAC flight from Va. I got there and at the gate there was two military and one civilian police officers there. The gate guard asked for my ID so I gave her my license and told her I was there to pick up my family on said MAC flight that was landing now. Before she could say a word the lady civilian cop (Jax pd maybe) snatched my id from her and started screaming at me that I wasn't military and wasn't allowed on base. She was yelling that they would have to call a cab to ride off base and I would have to get them there. She got in front of my car and was losing her shit yelling this isn't an open base and I can't be there. Then she told me to park in a lot just off to the right but wouldn't move out of the way. Finally I parked when she stopped yelling and that's about when the truck of other MP's showed up. She was telling them I couldn't be there and gave them my id. Big dude with his m4 or m16 walked up to my car and asked what was I doing there. I told him, and he could not have been nicer. Super professional. He said they were doing an exercise with the anti intrusion system and when it was done, he would get someone in a vehicle for me to follow to the terminal. We talked submarines and navy stuff while we waited and then I was on my way, no issue. Dropping them off for the return MAC, the guard at the gate said proceed, just go straight off base when I was done.
Besides this visit to JNAS, I went to Virginia Beach when pops was stationed there to visit him and went on board the USS Atlanta. That was awesome. He came home on leave when The Hunt for Red October came out, we went to see it and I wore the Atlanta hat he gave me. Got some looks when we were walking out.
Copettes are at their worst when there are guys around to back them up...
@@patverum9051 When I was in FTO out of the academy, one of my field trainers was a woman cop. She acted more manly than the men. A real pain to work with.
Just landed on your channel,, been watching your videos,, breath of fresh air,, no crap,, says it as it is awesome, 30 years a driver in Australia 🇦🇺👍👌😀
I worked for E.S.C.A as an, truck driver/analox roll cleaner. Analox rolls are cylinder newspaper printing press ink plates. To clean the rolls we use baking soda like sandblasting. YEAH! We called it blasting powder, and most bases have printer's, and you don't want to tell them I have 35 lb bags on 16 pallets of blasting powder!
"easy, easy, easy....baaam!, well ok then"
That's an old truck. I drove that truck in the late 70's! Put a lot of miles on that truck! Loved it!
I used to drive truck, only a 24' bob tail, but doing 500 miles plus every day. I had to make a delivery to a prison in Lathrop, Ca., and they wouldn't let me in, although I've made many deliveries to other prisons like San Quinton. They tell me I can't enter because I've been fingerprinted! WTF? Never been arrested, Never been convicted of any crime! I have been finger printed many times, becoming an Instructor for CDFG, Sheriffs Dept., CHP, Highschool coach, ATF, and never been refused entry to any place, accept the one prison. The way I do it is, hey you can accept it, or I'll take it back and you'll get it when we're damn good and ready to redeliver for a second attempt delivery charge! By the way, you can tell they're civilians, over weight and walking around with their hands in their pockets! Being a military brat myself, I know how this crap works!
Not only a 24’ .. you were a truck driver 👍 I’m a broken B’Double driver from Australia (prime mover with 2 or more trailers)
A friend of mine delivered goods to "Secure" army bases. He was once stopped and told, he wasn't allowed in to deliver a load, so he dropped it in their car park, said good luck picking that up from the ground, threw paperwork out of his window as he left. They had to apologise as it proved nigh on impossible for them to move it without the specialist lifting gear, fitted on the back of his truck. That was in the 1980s and we laughed over it for many years.
I drove down to West Pt years ago to visit my grandson at Hockey camp on base. What A hassle to fill out paperwork to get on base (had a long wait, 2 tour buses of passengers ahead of me). Finally grandson walked to gate got in my Jeep and we drove on base using his ID.
While going to his wedding prior to Covid at the old Ft Benning we had to go and fill out paperwork to be admitted on base a few days prior to wedding. They were much more efficient.
Delivered to government facilities, military bases, done service work at same. You are correct 100%, civilian employees are the worst as the rule there ! Glad to be Retired
Now
They can’t be fired. That’s why they don’t care.
Yea, their is a huge differences when you are talking to a solider and a civilian. Its night and day. Glad you was able to get the load off with great working people at the base.
They needed it, and I knew it
As a former army soldier, I can honestly tell you that the civilians that work on military bases are some of the biggest A-holes ever, especially if they are retired army NCOs.
Yessir' ! I agree. I went to enlist @/w. Selective service. I was denied. (Not physically developed enough to qualify. Underweight.! And... Only child. 1ST one made me feel 2inches tall. Could split 2- flies frolicking @50yrds. With a rifle. Not hand to hand
And. Almost completed obstacle course the 1ST time
And (could've) carried almost equal my own weight
There is always 1 A hole in every group, they got alittle power and always gotta use it , too try and feel important. You will always be ahead of that guy in life Steve.
I was stationed at a Navy base in California that had twice as many Marines than Sailors - now that’s security
I used MCRD boat launchramp; stayed the night and always had a security patrol spot lighting us. BUT SECURE.
What base?
When I was in the Air Force, I was stationed at a co-located Air Force radar site at the Hawthorne, Nevada Ammunition Depot. The Marines had a habit of sending their "problem" Marines there! "Out of sight, out of mind", I guess!
(It's now the Hawthorne Army Depot, after the Army took over).
Why is a background check necessary to deliver something to a military base? Someone at the base or the DoD ordered it. If they're concerned about security just have appropriate police or security personnel escort the driver to/from the delivery point.
That would make sence. Clearly, you work in the private sector. You're too smart for Govt. work.
It SOP, as a contractor with had stuff that needed to be delivered to base, the drivers license, registration of truck, insurance and SS#, had to be given to base security minimum three day BEFORE coming on base...
For any driver taking a load for a military installation, I always recommend to call the Provost Marshal and see the requirements to gain access. Each base commander is responsible for determining base access requirements. For example, Ft. Hood does a 20 year back ground check and many things may come up. Yet another instillation may inly do a seven year back ground check. Some allow TWIC cards while others may not. I’ve dealt with a lot of dumb reasons why a driver could not get on Hood (Cavazos) and had to hook up to the drivers trailer and make the delivery for them (worked for a local wrecker/haul truck company. Call ahead if possible.
I got refused entry at Vandenberg for something that is 30 plus years. The rule is 10 years but it’s up to the individual base security officer. I have a TWIC/KTN/DOD&DOE clearance and worked at Votgle Nuclear Power Station for 90 days. I went the the Gate pulled in for the safety check, and then was told that I could not Enter. They told me the Major in Charge had a problem with my BG check and I could call a service they use to get the load delivered. So I pulled back out and dropped my trailer and a local guy with a Tri axle day cab picked it up and delivered it for $250.00. Seemed like a racket were this base security guy was getting a cut. The Very next day I delivered to FT Irwin, then San Bernardino with out issue. You can get the decision reversed but it takes a while and then next time you don’t have to worry about it.
That speeding ticket is no joke. It's reached private sector.
Virginia got both my daughters. One for a police internship which she straightened out okay.
My other lost her babysitting job.
Virginia doesn't tell out of staters if you pay your ticket by mail, it's a guilty plea.
Her home state said she's fine here and there's no record of it.
OH HELL.,, I was a Groton Navy Base Sailor for most of my 26 year Military career. After navy retirement I worked as a Submarine Sail Rep contractor on that base for another 20 years. I was an Antenna REP for all the units stationed there. LOL! That bridge theory has been going on as long as I have been a Sub Sailor. They wont bomb us... They will NUKE US. That bridge just wont matter! LOL! I wish you and I could have met up while I was in Groton.. . I would have been able to get you a tour on a 688 & 774 class boat. You would have been severely impressed!!! Give some time to tour the Sub Museum tour!! . I'm a sub Sailor and I was impressed with the tour... The GOLD STAR BRIDGE. LOL!! Cant tell you how many times I've been across that span! The base is 7 miles from the point that you are at on the bridge. YES,, Security on the base is a SOB. But,, Its Got to be that way! AH,, The old Gold Star Motors lot! Been vacant for Years! LMFAO,, That civilian Security guy in the security office is a COMPLETE TOTAL ASS HOLE! Needs to be taken down a few notches! Is and has been for YEARS! Just a POS. My lord! I've been away from Groton for 4 Years and I have NEVER seen a load picked up from an Off Base lot! INSANE! I'm glad you got to deliver your load. Stay Safe and Be Alert! Subscribes and liked!!
I spent some time going on and off that base as well back in the day. I always used the river road entrance. In addition to the Marine gate guards there was a Naval officer inside as well. Officer Of the Deck (OOD) no civilian contractors
The OOD could override any bad decision or controversy.
SSBN-602
@@602STS2 Oh, You were a SHOWER TECH,, LOL! I spent some time in the Shack as an FT (Deployment Watch Station) so I hear ya. Man, Times have changed on Base! That Front Gate is Massive and there is NO LONGER any Marine Guards. There are Civilian Security Guards sublimated by Navy Security Force Watch Standers. There are still the Duty Chief and Duty Officer but, You don't see them until there's a big issue or SHTF. The old Laundry/ Dry Cleaners (Fusconies (SP?) is gone and that road has a weird roundabout type reconfigure. The Gate that FFC Trucking had to use is the new Truck/Shipping entry and Inspection Gate and its on the same road as the Main Gate. FSC is right on target. Getting on Base as a trucker/Shipper is DEEPLY REGULATED. If you have farted wrong in the last 20 Years, They deny you access. My old Boomer Days consisted of SSBN 617, SSBN 635 and SSBN 624. My last Boat was USS Miami, SSN-755 (God Rest Her Soul). River Road is still going Strong. The Natalis Museum Is there and its always BUSY!
@@602STS2Back in the 70's, I worked on the Orion in Charleston. One of the hardest jobs we did was (basically) build the vapor compressors for 602 and (IIRC) 603, up at the weapons station. First and only boomer I was on.
How many times have you been to Rosies Bar?
@@nickmalone3143 LOL!! Funny you should ask. I'm not a BAR person. I was there once to find and rescue a shipmate. Other than that I have driven past it a 2000 and that's about it. I been to Guam 5 times and never visited the Horse and Cow. I don't know. Just never had to need to go to the Bars. I get invited and go to the local Chiefs Associations for special occasions like Pinning Ons or Chiefs Initiations etc. .
When I worked security at an Army base, we never did background checks on delivery drivers. Hell, we had a pizza delivery driver who claimed that he was ex KGB. No one cared. Mysterious warrants and odd things popping up in the system was almost always related to a nasty divorce. My advice to you is to find out what is popping up when people do a cursory background check on you, and be prepared to sue someone.
Someone keeps blowing the air horn right at the best moments!🤣🤣
Advertiser friendly...
Lol imagine the quick reach with the "oh jeez"
@@fsctrucking sure is not for children's ears !!! LOL😄
I was thinking the same thing. Took me a few honks to figure it out 😁
civilians have no buisines acting as security on ANY base
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Having Been a Civilian Guard at Ft Lewis at one point in time, we were told they needed us there to free up military personel for Deployments. We don't all act like asses, however if you are a cab driver coming onto post with a dwi punch on yer license you had to have court papers allowing you to work, I made sure to see that every time those people came through my gate. It was protocol, I heard later those drivers were complaining about having to show the papers. Tough Shit you shouldnt have driven drunk to get your license suspended. But guards there were fired regularly for fucking up.
I remember going to Ft Polk. Civilian in the TMO sent me on a wild goose chase. I was lucky enough to have had the base commander roll up on me wanting to know why I was where I was.? He saw what was on my RGN. I followed him back to the TMO and watched the joker get escorted off base.When Clinton cut the personel levels at our bases. The problems began. I stand firmly behind my statement. NO civilian should have anything to do on a base.
@@bobsymonds208Cry more about it, what a baby
Welcome to the Biden admins military, meaning it weaker and weaker
I'm in CT was a LTL driver 13yrs it's a pain to get in usually have to have appt. Vry strict Love watching your videos
I was born on that base in 65. I go there from time to time to shop at the Exchange. As retired military who worked with union civilians I understand your pain
Yep, I was denied entry to a weapons depot that I was contracted to do an abatement job on. Yet my 2 workers with murder convictions were allowed in. All my records show is 4 years probation.
I guess it's too simple to build a separate drop yard / warehouse isolated from the main base then have pre-cleared individuals take everything inside the security perimeter.
That would make too much sense for our ever increasing nonsensical government.
I would have hauled the generator right back to the manufacturer and told them that they refused the load. Let them pay twice to get it, and maybe old grumpy would have his ass chewed by his immediate supervisor.
Many places are going that route. Nowadays with so many overzealous police, and govt over-reach, anybody has a past.
If they want their crap, they better find a way.
As someone who has been through some of the same BS that you went through @ the Naval Base, I’m truly sorry you went through that! They should have worked with you to help you straighten this whole mess out! I have no tolerance for jerks like that! NONE!!
They (Base Security) could have escorted you to your delivery point. Off loaded. Then escorted you off base. Someone has a bug up their butt.
Nope, not their job, and most likely against policy. It’s not their fault the folks he was delivering to weren’t prepared
@@taranwilliamson1931 did you ever serve in the Military? If so, what branch and what was/is your MOS?
Your comment leads me to believe you have no Military experience at all.
When Gate Security is being covered by Civilian personnel, it is not their job to escort anyone. However!!!!!!!!!! It is their job to pass this on the MP's or SP's. They are the ones to make that call depending on the "Mission Critical" needs of the load.
This SOP! I know what I'm talking about as a 20 year Veteran. I am no longer active. But I have family and many friends that are still active.
What are your qualifications for giving such an answer?
@@MadMax-pt3yk I am currently serving in the navy. I work at the gates. Whoever is receiving the load is supposed to meet Ave escort the driver. It isn’t the MAs job
@@taranwilliamson1931 Thank you for serving our Country! The Navy is a great branch. Their mission is different due to the nature of ordinances received. (This is my assumption)
I don't know much about Navy or Marines. I was in the United States Army!
Regarding this video. We don't know what this RUclipsrs history check revealed. We only know what he's willing to admit.
All Military gates have an SOP regarding entry. That also depends on our Nations current threat level.
Had this load been mission critical, arrangements could have permitted this trucker to enter.
And let's be honest, the people on duty at the time also play a major role. That role is their willingness to go the extra mile.
There are other factors we won't mention. But the way this load was handled is concerning. I certainly hope all precautions were met even with the entry ultimately being done by an active duty member.
@@MadMax-pt3yk thank you for your service sir.
the history check could absolutely be a part of it, but usually if a trucker only goes to base once in a blue moon they have to be sponsored on by somebody with a CAC.
The people on duty do indeed play a part, but at least at my installation there isn’t any guard who’d let somebody who doesn’t have a TWIC, DBIDS, or other form of valid credential on base. The difference is in how much we help them figure out what they need to do to make their delivery.
Typically I try to do everything short of just letting them on, cuz if I let them on and something bad happens that’s my ass
I wish the border was that secure.
It is more difficult to enter the Nuclear Power Plants and Prisons in Sweden than to cross the border.
ME to
And our schools
Then they should have passed the boarder bill. Was it perfect no but is was a good starting place
Biden-Harris america ...
I was refused to a few places that wouldn't allow entry they never got there load. Turned round and took it back. Then had to pay double to get it.
Correction, you/we had to pay twice. Do you not know where that money comes from?
Don't forget, you can also visit the only museum U-boat in history, stolen by America, and on display in Chicago.
Hey Steve. I got a better way to say it than waving a life preserver... if I were a bartender and he order it on the rocks, I'd give it to him straight on a pile of railroad gravel in the Arizona sun at 2 p.m.
Nice and toasty. The booze too.
Wow , " He'd better be nice at the bar " YaHa I guess so. Thanks for your service Steve. USN active duty "74 to '79 DD876 Portland BT2 .
Had occasion to visit the White House Communications Agency. Support center for WH near Boiling AFB outside DC. They have US Marines at their gate. Sitting behind 3 inches of bullet proof glass with an M16 in a rack at his side hangs a sign which reads “A Marine on Duty Has No Friends”. Still always cordial and very professional.
Steve, Orville is one badass truck !
I got refused entry to China Lake Weapons Testing Station once, on active duty. I was on terminal leave (90 days) and was given temporary ID when I went on leave and they took my green ID. The (civilian) at the gate wouldn't even look at it. My car had a Navy stucker on it and all!
I called the base XO to enquire why I couldn't go to the Base Exchange? He sent down a Senior Chief to get me through. The civilian wasn't happy....😊
My old man nearly got gunned down at a nuclear power plant in the early 80s, because between the point he entered the base to drop multiple air compressors of similar size to this generator, and the point of parking, the forklift drivers went on strike. 29 hours later, his delirious self decided to unload himself, and climbed on a forklift to do so. After getting 2 dozenish guns in his face, one of the forklift union reps witnessed, inquired, and flat out screamed at a driver to unload him. He wasn't allowed back on base, but, he doesn't care.
Steve, thank you for the ride-along on that part of I-95 (minus the stretch from Branford TO Groton,lol). That used to be part of my stomping grounds during my 20 year stint as a livery car driver in Connecticut.
Could be a pending charge that was never adjudicated or something that was adjudicated and some clerk failed to update your file.
That was a gentle off-loading. BANG! Oh, well.
41:52 DoD civilians do swear an oath of office when they are hired. The pas and ID/gate guys aren't allowed to share details, only if access is denied or granted. They don't have any control over what is written. There is a DoD process for civilians to get pre-screened so it is smoother at the gate. It would be worth pursing that process if you deliver to bases often.
The civilian employees are considered federal employees who do take an oath. Contract employees do not. I hope you filed a complaint and also get what ever information the ole geezer was basing the entry issue is purged from court records.
We left Groton in 1978 when my father medically retired from the Navy as a Senior Chief Radioman who was on the Danial Boone 629, George Bancroft 643. Lived about a mile from the main gate. Use to walk to ROCK LAKE on base.
Cool shout out to the Cobia. I slept on it when I was in the scouts back in the day. I think you can rent it like an air bnb now. They point out on the tour that the Cobia itself wasn't built in Manitowoc, but yeah, its a Gato class which they did build. But they built more landing craft than anything there, 20 something subs, 40 something landing craft I think. Same shipyard is basically still there, its Burger Boats now. Thats also where those big ass blue cranes are being assembled on the river.
I drove an old freightliner cab over for a local company. Loved driving it.
I also drove an Argosy freightliner. Wow. No dog house to deal with.
Be careful.
The JFK is a conventionally powered ship, the Enterprise was too difficult to remove the nuclear components to make it a museum ship, it would wreck the ship to clean it.
I attended the deactivation ceremony for the Enterprise and they did mention why the ceremony was during the deactivation rather than the decommissioning: To decommission a nuclear carrier, particularly the Enterprise, you have to cut huge holes in the hull to remove all 8 reactors, which would not leave the ship in a very presentable condition..
I did that kind of work for over 45 years ,Sorry to see you had so much drama over so simple a load . there were some places i went to so often there would be times when i was there they would ask me if i had time to bring in another persons load as they couldn't be allowed to come on base . One base i went too so often they gave me a 90 day pass so as not to hold me up going thru all the checks every time ..Good luck brother .
File a complaint with Navy Region Northeast
I was in the Navy 21 years. The last 6 in security and the last 4 as a Chief Petty Officer. I was constantly called out to the gate for instances just like this. Everytime i would have to tell them to stand down and let this guy on base. Some were ok but most just loved playing a power trip.
Grotton isn't just any military base it's a sub base. There's a different way of doing things when there's subs around
Its just not only parking tickets, its unpaid tolls that go on your record now.
I've been on and off many Base, All Branches as a Civilian and never had issues....In personal automobile and in Trucks hauling freight....My license was sufficient...But I am no trouble maker and show respect...
Steve I visited the sub at Patriot point in 1989 stood on the foredeck with the con tower in the back ground
Took a picture waring a official The Hunt For Red October Hat
Unfortunately you are correct
The sub has been scrapped parts have been saved and placed on exhibit on the the USS Yorktown CV - 10
As a coincidence this video came out a few days after the death of James Earl Jones passed away who played the admiral in that movie
Great movie
I took a tour through that sub, must have been in the mid-80's. Bonked my skull on a couple of the hatchways inside that thing.
@@stansdds I didn't bonk my head because I grabbed the handhold at the top of the hatch jumped through them pulled the rest of me through
12:00 I haven’t even gotten to the base encounter yet. I’m just enjoying the ride in a 1984 cabover Peterbilt! That’s just something we don’t see in California anymore. The California Air Resources Board, aka CARB, has pretty much removed all pre-BluDEF trucks from California. I haven’t seen a cabover in California, in years. I liked and subscribed just for that and your camera angles. I guess that I’ll start the video again.
P.S. I’m not a trucker. I did drive for Greyhound for a few years, back in the 1980s, prior to changing careers. I have the greatest respect for safe, professional drivers.
@@TenMinuteTrips Glad to have you.
That place is referred to as Rotten Groton
U and i met at mats 2023.. I understand your problems getting onto base in grotten. I have previous security clearance from the navy though it's actually harder to get on a navy facility than army or air force, no experience with space force YET.. I feel your resentment to younger issues regardless.. Keep up the great videos..
Thanks for the COE ride. I really miss my 88 Freightliner Cab over.
When I used to deliver gas to the NEX gas station at the Bangor sub base in WA they have Navy sentry guards at the gate and I’ve never had any issues, they checked the paperwork my ID and inspect the truck and trailer before proceeding to the NEX.
I’ve picked up and delivered on a few bases. I’m always amazed by the inconsistency in security standards. Mainly when it comes to ID’s.
I’ve even been to the lower base there in Groton. Only base that made me leave ALL electronics in a bag with them at the gate, but never came out to search the cab or anything.
I use to work for Trane, we had a contract at the sub base, first off, the clearances and background checks are manditory.. the inspections suck, and upper base is fine. But the second you tell them your working on lower base, expect a shit ton of aggressiveness... and usually 2 guards on your ass all the time.
I like your Peterbilt cabover semi. I don't see many cabover semis on American roads anymore like I use to back in the 1980s & down.
Sorry you got treated badly at the contractors gate by the old 😮civilian. As a union council for public works that includes transportation. I can tell you that the old civilian is not a member of Union 854. If he was that, interaction would be inappropriate. Also, I believe he is not a member of any union on the base that I can find. Safe travels, and thanks for what you do. Union council rep for 854
When you’re dealing with “BubbleHeads” they’re a bunch of uptight pasty whiner’s who believe EVERYTHING should be Above Top Secret.
Love your channel!
I was at that drop lot in Mehoopany yesterday, I'm there frequently. (I bring boxes from Camillus NY to there). Picked up around the corner at their warehouse in Tunkhannock on Rt.6. Stay safe out there.
love you driving a older semi like when i was growing up. the younger driver want the newer truck with better comfort
It's their "I'm here to do you a favor." attitude.
I see they changed the main gate setup since I was there last in early 90's - I was heading to Sub Training there passing Through Dallas as JFK was shot in 63 - I got out of boot camp on the 21st, the day before - I was in New York in the early 90's for work and was driving a rental Volvo with my business partner riding shotgun - I was wearing a green jacket that looked like our Navy Faul Weather jackets and the Marine Guard at the gate just saluted us through - I was able to drive all over the base with no issues other than the Sub Pen where the boats were tied up - there was a second gate there - the base and trees had changed so much I could not recognize anything -
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Hauled a Army tank, running, like new, with ammo in boxes I believe. Moved it from Maine to Newport News, just outside of DC, they told me I had to leave. No TWIC. I said, "I have a tank, I loaded it, it has ammo and you want me to leave?" yes, you have to leave. Went in and out 2 times and finally paid $30.00 and unloaded on the third trip time.
Later I got the TWIC because the Port of Baltimore was becoming a pain. After I got it, pulled up, handed them the TWIC, they said, "give me your driver's license, we don't have a TWIC card reader."
I actually sorta feel your pain on this one. Whenever I try to get on Fort Bragg to make deliveries to the Firestones on base theres one guy in the building that seems to always want to be an ass. Asked him one time if they had a restroom I could use and he got snottier than usual and said they were outside and up the road.
in a minor case of defense, "can I use the restroom" is a common way to try and get past security. Didn't need to be an ass about it though.
I always flash lights to help truckers as a civilian because when I do haul a trailer, it helps...however seems times are changing and rarely do they acknowledge anymore... Is this only among drivers now? Stay safe.
Why wouldn't you just get a TWIC card if you're going to delivery to any base. Every military base does a background check if you don't have the card.
He does have a TWIC card; 40:08 in the video.
@@wlogan2000 then why would they do a background check, that's they whole point of the card.
@@4dogsgaming They make up their own rules.
@@wlogan2000 no they don't
I've never had a check after I got a TWIC card..
@@4dogsgaming correction, the FOLLOW their own rules.
There is an art to driving on the interstates. Unfortunately, some will never matter that. Start with, if you are in thr high speed lane and see people approaching from behind, change lanes. When you pass, give the person that you are passing plenty of room. Be considerate of people merging on the entrance ramp! I have never driven a big rig, but i have put tens of thousands of highway miles on motorcycles.
Great video Steve really enjoy all the different camera angles and your commentary and the music. Thanks for sharing stay safe Steve.
Years ago. When 911 was still fresh. I had a delivery at vandenberg afb in california. They didn't guve me a hard time . And I was looking rough. The load was refridgerated freight for the on base store. The guard just checked the seal. Took a look in my messy cab and gave me directions.
Damn, dont see you mad much Steve. That old guy definitely pissed you off. He probably makes everyone around him pissy.
I had to deal with assholes just like him when I was in the army.
Almost all of these guys are ex- military NCOs who still live to make everyone around them miserable because they are miserable.
He does. I hope he sees this and gets mad. He can go F himself in Macey's window!
I used to deliver copy paper to a Federal Reserve bank many years ago. Big bob truck. After you go through the entrance gate, you approach some big steel doors. When they open you pull in, shut it off and sit still. The doors close and you're locked in a big steel room, cameras everywhere, small platform and a door. Several armed guys come out, some watch you, (M-16s or ARs) the rest go over your whole truck (say hi to the doggy! No, Don't do that.) and then they disappear. You wait. Then you go out the other side when it opens and you can unload and leave it on the dock...still under armed watch.
State Police kept their copy paper in the evidence room, "just put it in there". All kinds of stuff in there. I saw 2,499 pounds and 15 ounces of coke once.
Had a guy at a bnsf rail yard entrance. Does not work directly for BNSF but thought he did. Same deal, biggest a hole ever but in my situation I am a BNSF journeyman Carman turned trucker and knew who to call. After that he stopped bugging me but continued to yell at everyone else. I don't understand how those people exist if they are that wound up 24/7
They are just dicks because they know they can be, and know most people won't stand up to them for fear of losing their job. The postal service is just full of these A-holes, if you've ever had to deliver to a bulk mail center.
As a Vet, and a former federal civilian, I have to correct you on a couple of things. As a federal civilian employee, I recall having to take an oath just like my military one. I was Army, but I would think the process was the same. And, while there are definitely some dingballs as civilians, the fact they remain there is a leadership problem in my opinion and experience. It takes effort and time, but you can effect a termination if you have to. So while I completely understand why you'd be upset, I think it's unfair to paint on federal civilians the same way. As a matter of fact, as a federal civilian, you are a non-uniformed member of the service you work for, but have different responsibilities, and that does not make you less accountable. And frankly, I had to deal with years of prejudice of my civilian status by military members and it's one reason I elected to leave after almost 15 years of combined military and civilian service.
Yeah, I used to go to that navy base all the time. They are pretty Strict., they don't go by the twic card. They have their own background checks. I think the backround check was good for 6 months not sure I'm retired from trucking.
Did you check in with your TWIC? It really streamlines your check in at military installations, they don’t necessarily ask for it but are always pleased when I offer it because it cuts the BS they go through in half
Certain Navy bases are more strict on Access, and Groton/New London, are strict
I'm pretty sure all of the classified secret areas are guarded by men with automatic rifles and signs before you even get to them marked USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED. You would never make it to the submarine pens alive, and this was just overkill for nothing.
I mean it makes sense. It's actively an asset being spied on by the Chinese and Russians.
I delivered to a military installation in Groton CT, it was the same deal with the drama, but I got in.
The worst is Electric Boat in Quonset RI; they take your phone at the gate which in understand; the most boring 3 hour offload of my life!
Vintage cabover sounding great....
No wonder you were out of sorts. At least you could drive away. The decent military guy works there all the time. I'm surprised he didn't tell the guy to back down, you've gone too far.
Everyone on that base (I was told) knows all about that prick.
Yep, I can tell you, being that I’m a retired Chief Petty Officer of 21 years. Usually the civilians that are grumbly. Better chance than not those folks are usually ex military themselves with a grudge of some sort. Wish I could totally understand why but probably never will. Cool vids as usual brother. I grew up in CT before joining the Navy back in 86. Aloha 🍍
Government Contracted Security "Services" are the same all over.
I haven't seen any contracted gate services, all bases I've been too, over 80, are all GI or federal police.
I love the cab over real American classic truck
14:30 Unless it was a surprise attack, all subs that COULD sail WOULD have already sailed. Electric Boat, Groton (one of the few places in the U.S. still building submarines and able to provide refits/repairs to subs) is south of I-95. There are other things in place to help prevent subs from being trapped north of the Gold Star Memorial Bridge, so even if the bridges (there's a train bridge crossing the Thames there) were brought down, subs might still be able to get by the wreckage.
I said a prayer over the USS Arizona. It sits where it does due to the "IF".
@@fsctrucking During my stint in the Navy, I briefly worked at Water Transportation in Pearl Harbor and scraped barnacles off the U.S.S. Arizona Memorial in a fiberglass dinghy while bouncing off the actual Arizona at low tide. It had to be done after the memorial closed for the day and so we rowed out there at sunset. Eerie.
I used to deliver equipment on a Air Force base at the international Airport in Pittsburgh....they checked everything including background...my one coworker was denied because he had a record from 15 yrs ago and was resolved
The sub base takes a act of god to get into
Then they can come get their $hit
I drove a box truck through the wrong gate at Scott AFB. The female MP stopped me and informed me that I had entered the wrong gate. I asked her if I should turn around and use the correct gate. She said NO, you are already on the base jus go to your destination. The next time I came in, I went to the correct gate. But, they stopped me and put the dogs in my truck. It only took about 10 minutes for the dogs to do their thing. Then I went to the BX.