Hands-On: Looking Glass Holographic Display
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- We go hands-on with The Looking Glass, the new display from a company that's been experimenting with various forms of volumetric and lightfield imaging in pursuit of real-world holograms. Looking Glass Factory's CEO Shawn Frayne explains how this new display works and how he sees 3D artists using it to visualize their creations.
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Norm is such a great interviewer he always asks the questions on my mind
Justice For Seth Rich WWG1WGA lol
Thank you!
I knew I wasn't the only one who hated Norm's style of interviewing.
And yeah, socially awkward is the best way to describe him, he comes off so stiff and weird.
This video is like being blind in one eye and your friends ask if you want to go see a 3d imax movie...
"It just pops!"
- yeah, well, i'm sure that's just great..
In a way. But we can see the perspective change as the camera moves, so that's quite neat.
Sybrand Botes that's true. On 2D vision it makes it look like really advanced parallax scrolling. ... Which I guess in a way it is, right?
lol yeah my life exactly,,,I am Mr Magoo
I really want to see a Virtual Fish Tank.
This is the same technology from prey, I would love to see these guys team up with Bethesda and at least make a cool product display for prey 2, whenever that's announced.
It's literally called the looking glass
Prey is already Prey 2 tho. Like Literally.
*Edit: I just did a little research can confirm that it is just a cleaner 3DS screen NOT a Lightfield Display.*
If this has vertical parallax and Z-parallax in addition to horizontal parallax then yes it is a real light field display like LFDs in Prey. However I strongly suspect that it only has horizontal parallax based on what Shawn Frayne did and did not say.
If my suspicion is correct then this is just a cleaner 3DS screen and not really comparable to the light field displays in Prey
I think they called it a looking glass for a reason
Is the thing in prey possible?
best norm interview ever. really tangible example of how outdated our tech will be in 20 yrs
I want a pen that virtually extends its tip into the display, so I can sketch in 3D. Then I want to import that sketch into Blender as a grease pencil drawing so I can start modeling from there.
The interaction bundle includes a leap motion tracker, which does not only track hands but also pens. I wrote a rough prototype script for Blender that imported data from it. So yeah, that's within reach. Real time 3D views from Blender is also one of the things under development, according to the campaign page.
Well thought!
try VR, what you described probably will not exist for several decades or ever
My god I can’t wait to see these in museums.
1armbiker probably 10 years from now
Yea, I can’t wait until the IPhoneX or some other high tech stuff is considered old technology
I was blessed to be born in this age
future of billboards looks bright..
bravo
see wut u did dere
Lol
Camera needs to move left and right a tad faster on a freeze frame of light field footage within the looking glass to show just how volumetric it is
Carlo Rufio bad camera man
Or put the display on a turntable or something of the sort.
This would honestly be nice for visualizing models set in 3d programs.
"How is this-...... How is this not that?" - Norm 2k18
On top of the multiple polarization lenses he talks about, I really believe the lense system has variable index of refraction. Whole heartedly.
The camera never shows any variety of angles to make it look like a 3D image. Guess it’s just something you have to experience in person. Just looked like a 2d screen in this whole video
I wonder if it has different vertical viewing angles...
I remember reading in a magazine once, that television sets sold in 2036, will be inset boxes, with 3D displays, inside of them. Scenes will play out, like little models moving about, and interacting with each other.
This looks really good, even on a 2-D screen....this stuff must look just mind blowing in person.
I've been following light field displays for a while now. This looks similar to a tensor field display I've seen. The technology has gotten a lot better.
This was most charismatic Norm. Usually, he's borderline cringe with his comments. He seems to be relaxing.
It starts with a P and ends with ORN, it's meant to see in depth and these devices will deliver!
Man actually looks pretty cool I hope Laptop companies look into this for further research like StarTrek type stuff like old shows set in the future this is perfect.
This could be put in museums to visualise objects. Similar to how statues are viewed in Nintendo’s Louvre guide.
I am so excited to see where this goes in the next 10 years. Imagine one of these, but 20 inches across and 3 inches thick that costs $300.
I was disappointed by "Holovect" barely an hour ago, and this just showed up in a banner ad.
Normally I don't like being tracked, but I _kinda_ needed this, so... You win this time, Google.
I've seen companies show prototype holographic displays since 2004 or earlier.
I've yet to see a practical example of it though...
It's running 40+ renders per frame. It's still not quite practical.
The biggest issue ist the early technical stand, all this techniques need to grow up more and we also need more computing power. We are still a bit too early for this stuffs, but we are so close to it like never before.
Yes. What I saw being demoed back then was amazing - in theory.
Just one problem; It used eye tracking to make the problem even remotely tractable. (calculating a holographic projection for 2 degrees is apparently a lot simpler than doing it for 90+ degrees), and it needed multiple extremely high end GPU's, and even then ran at poor framerates and in black and white (solely due to processing limitations.) - and note these GPU's weren't even calculating a dynamic 3d scene - they were literally just calculating the various ways light needed to be projected to correctly create an image...
And of course, the hypothetical displays this would create would be obscenely expensive for good measure. (not to mention the computer you'd need just to power the display, with even more needed to actually get the display to do anything useful.)
Don't worry , i got it, just got to watch guys like this ...who thinks he is OG, but coming up with old stuff that did not work before.
I want to see this as a big screen in a movie theater!
It'd be basically the same as watching a stage play except with better special effects and a 40 ton block of acrylic.
From what I gather - the lucite at the front is mostly there for fake purposes to make it seem more magic than it is. It's weird I missed this product when it was being talked about, but I was thinking about using those old optical filter 3d tricks the other day. I want to see a cut-away light path for this and see what's going on. I think the big "hide" here is the lucite block is put there to make it seem more than it is.
We need a looking glass "table" top.
Also, is it possible to have something like this in a flat tablet like device instead of a volumetric one? That'll give an impression of depth inside the device, and it would be portable.
Almost the same technology I came up with 20 years ago, by laying LCD screens on top of each other with no reflection layer between them so you can see thur all 12 screens and then slicing a image up 12 times and each layer displayed on one screen so when viewed it looks 3d. Was also going to back light it with a laser to make it into a 3d holographic image that pops out from the screens.
Kill, The, Camera, Man.
FFS- don't just move the camera 2-3 degreese back & forth, move it the full 50, so we can actually see the depth! FUNK!
This is an issue even the official videos have, where they don't do this, and as such, fail to truly capture any sense of depth.
They wont do this because it will look like shit
I agree. Most filmmakers stick to a format of only moving (dollying) about 5, maybe 10 degrees around the talent, for set based limitations, to avoid lighting, and production assistants getting into frame. But, in this case, I'd have set up a flex track dolly, for a 45 degree arc, around the two displays, to truly capture the products' capabilities. Unfortunately, a lot of interviewers, and filmmakers don't understand what's going on. When I gave a demo and lecture, on holography, for Public Access Television, I had to BEG the cameraman (it was a male), to physically dolly the camera side, to side, and not pan the camera, to show the parallax of the hologram. I can forgive the cameraman, as it was his first time seeing holograms. :)
Can you imagine going into a theater and having the projector be the entire space between you (in the first row) and the movie screen wall and everything is in 3D? You could literally walk around the theater and see the movie from an entirely different angle and you would not need any visor glasses to see it. You would literally be IN the movie. That is badass!!
So I take it the holographic effect works from side-to-side, but not up and down?
don't forget, it LIVES inside the looking glass.
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH IT'S ALIVE
What a pro camera man :') let me just slowly rock from left to right over and over so that you can see the reflection of my face in the fox animation
so it's lenticular and all 45 views only on the horizontal axis?
That's how I understood it. Lenticular video. Spiffy!
I think it's more than the horizontal axis since they described the space of viewing angles as a "cone".
It's a light field display so it has horizontal and vertical views. I've seen a similar looking device called a tensor display. That device uses fly eye lenticular lenses and multiple lcd panels to direct the light in all directions.
I don't think so, because all over the video it's visually described as horizontal, plus if 45 views were on both axis, that would be what, 9x5 views maybe? I don't think that only 9 horizontal views for that viewing cone would look this smooth.
But really, the fact that nowhere in the video it moves vertically gives it away. And it would also tell about a different angle for the vertical axis, which would in no way require as much as horizontal.
And 45x the content looks like a lot of extra's to render, that would have to be coupled with a camera detecting all of the faces/eyes in the room to know which of the views to render. Then yes, it could realistically be on both axis.
I guess it might only be horizontal. Here is a video of a tensor display where they show horizontal and vertical views. They can get fairly smooth transitions but I'm not sure how many different views they are using.
ruclips.net/video/4r6lY8S4A6E/видео.html
Sorry, my eyes were on those TES Daggers.
Mnnnn, Keening.
T4silly i want keening an mehrunes razor bc why not :'3
A change is coming so fast !!
if this is Holographic then you might as well go and class 3D glasses as holographic......true holographic is being displayed in nothing but air not through a physical medium like glass. this is just insanely amazing 3D display
could there be a see through display that could be placed randomly in a space where you will still be able to see whats behind them? but still have the same level of opacity/saturation/hues? very excited about the future and what they are doing right now!
I was born just the right time to experience all this technology
I’m putting this on a playlist so I can come back in ten years when it’s mainstream
The last time I was this early the comments weren't full of people complaining how they were doing it all wrong..........I'm impressed.
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8 MP for big one - Resolution is close to: ! 566 * 314 ! = (177724 * 45 = 7 997 580 pixels)
4 MP for small one - Resolution is close to: ! 400 * 222 ! = (88800 * 45 = 3 996 000 pixels)
Looks like a great first step towards something that could be very cool in the future
This is very cool, but the camera operator should've dollied the camera through a 45 degree arc, to give a better idea of the functionality of the displays. Thanks for sharing this.
I love where 3D displays are going! This is awesome!
It would be so cool to have one of these sitting on a bedside with fish swimming around.
Seems like it could be useful for audio analysis. More likely to be the gimmick on a future stereo system. Quite pixelated, even at 360p and 2D. Having played a hologram game in Vegas in the early 80s, about time to see this tech at a consumer level. Zaxxon on that could be so cool.
I could see this in a store which is selling LEGOs. It would present 3D LEGO animations. Very appealing!
First time sees this channel
Sees keening in the background
I really want one! But I also dont want to go into debt
who cares about debt if you can have a looking glass!
Seems really cool. Great work guys! But this thing does not let me focus on different depths on demand, right?
I really love how he utterly avoids explaining how it actually works...
He does though... It's similar to how 3ds works, but instead of 2 images being split by the screen it splits it into 45 images so you can look from many angles. The underlying display is interlaced into 45 images and then the block splits the interlaced image out to images only viewable from specific angles.
I like how everyone’s saying this has no practical use, and VR doesn’t either... When both products have always only been marketed for entertainment... It’s like complaining that Xbox and PS4 are impractical 😂
Future uses:
Actual holograms - FaceTime & drawings.
TV and video game full 3D models!
Learning tool for education.
New creative form of animation!
Take it or leave it. It’s innovative nonetheless.
VR can already be used to educate and show scaled-up concepts of things people used to only see in a microscope, not to mention Google Earth is now properly working in VR and you can take a walk in places you're gonna be and learn routes in another country without paying for a plane ticket.
Drink every time this guy says "lives inside"
Hahaha yes!
Ok, next step, figure out how to scale them up to build windows or entire walls out of these and allow for further distances. In the game Prey you can find a room with a wall-sized looking glass, showing a WIP of a panoramic view of a village built on the cliffs of an ocean. Yes, I want that.
I love that for the entirety of the video there is a tiny dancing man on the bottom left. :D
It would be awesome if the last display had an image (from a camera) of what's behind ! Tryng to achieve like if is something transparent, huh?
Cooooooooool! I want to get a volumetric video of my doggo and put it in there!
Soo i understand this as a more advanced version of the Nintendo 3DS?!
Just that the 3DS works with 2 views and this one does so with 45. So for example to render a game on this display would require you to render 45 different images of that game simultaneously which are then filtered through that display.
Content is key now and off it goes!♠️
I'm skeptical of "hard" holograms, but I can easily see myself using this for Unity3d development once it's manufactured as a monitor.
How about video calls? Just attach a couple of cameras on the top for the volumetric shot, at least from a couple of angles and there you go!
I bet it looks really good in person. The video doesnt do justice...
This is a video that should have a 3D version.
Show the effing product! Why just film from one angle?
I'm noticing just about every video I see of this in any marketing material seems very careful about the camera angles it uses, and that makes me very suspicious, as you'd think different angles would be their biggest selling point.
You have the coolest 3D display in your video and don't care to rotate your camera more than 10° around the display, are you kidding me!
This takes me back to the Sega Time Traveller game, epic in its time.
I hope they increase the size and make the technology available to film makers to try some different media formats.
An arcade machine with this holographic display for platform games would be great.
lol when they have to go with "family photos" as an application, they're really struggling. i'm sure this thing has some actual use for visualizing/learning, and for gaming
They only show static shots of the screen. This makes me suspivious that the holographic effect is not as strong pr convincing as they advertise.
They should pan in front of the screen to show the parallax.
Hatsune Miku concert with this tech when?
ROKI-P miku concert on your desk. Who needs heaven, then?
News?
ROKI-P ruclips.net/video/jThc-C5YFqY/видео.html not quite as advanced but still pretty awesome
Tribeking JR I used to have a couple of hakovision boxes I picked up years ago. They are amazing but these displays blow those little cardboard boxes away.
Cringy video, but kinda neat. I was thinking of something a bit more grand, like a actual full scale stage, but neat.
quite bum that its not completely see through, but its still impressive !, can't wait for the next advancement !
Sweet steel dagger and Keening from Skyrim up on the wall!
Aldantler, I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that on the wall
All I see is a few of these spaced throughout my house and have my virtual assistant "follow" me around my house
I gotta get one! This blows my mind and makes me very happy. But seriously, who voted thumbs down? “We hate amazing, affordable, potentially life changing tech and great interviews! Bah! Humbug!”
Finally, Sega's "Time Traveler" can be accurately emulated.
Pretty cool tech.
Would be an interesting experience to play a game that is designed on one.
How is this tech ever going to compete once we have high-performing, compact/discrete AR glasses (particularly along with 5g connectivity)? It seems like that technology really isn't far away at all, & it seems like it will be much more generally useful.
This is a holographic 3D display that I could actually experience, with my monocular vision the existing 3D effects don't work for me but if I can just move my head back and fourth I get a sense of depth
I need this yesterday.
Nice interview, but you could have done better by showing some static 3D-Pictures and moving the camera around.
Guess this tool is interesting for 3D development and the industry.
Very cool but I'll wait till Looking Glass: 5th Gen with a 40" hemisphere 8K surface table top version for games similar to Divinity: Original Sin 2.
I notice there is always and only a black background. Wondering if there'd be more visible artifacting with a light background.
I want the walls in my apartment made by these screens. So many possibilities!
Can't wait for a mobile phone version!!!
this would look so cool with a galaxy inside
How do you create your own content if you buy the 8.9 version? Is there a website dedicated to this stuff? How would you author stuff yourself? Do you have to be a programmer?
imagine this being implemented in movie cinemas/theaters.
How big can these be made? TV size? Can I put a small version in a 20" R2 figure?
Also use some of the funding to secure the rights to use Princess Leia's help me Obi-Wan Kenobi scene
Whilst the comment section already blowing up, time to remind people that this new tech has been clearly explained to use 2 different modes to achieve the effect. On a level, this requires a new way to create 3d images. So only CGI is really capable of making this display work. No real 'movies' will be made for this, and any image capture probably requires a new way to film thats again, not going to happen unless this goes fully mainstream.
Cool concept nevertheless.
Those ways of filming (light fields) are also in development, as discussed in this very video. 8i's demo is quite impressive within a VR headset.
LordAugastus CGI rule 34 for this, can't wait
Light field cameras already exist. They just need a display to be viewed on properly.
Just because something exists, doesnt mean it exists in economically viable way to be used in hand with emerging technology for movie buissness....
Maybe with some processing with neural nets or something, it might be possible to convert 2d footage to 3d?
When will this be on my iPhone?😍
Next week on Hands-On: Neuromods - The future of learning.
Sooo... If I got it right, lenticular based means I can observe 3D just from left to right, no above and below. Correct?
That's Amazing.
Fuck I’d love this. Currently I’m using a janky Vive model viewer that I made in Unity to preview models. (I 3D print stuff a lot)
I know this probably won't be the case but what if this was the special display on the red hydrogen one?
This won't work if you flip it to landscape though, since it only displays 45 views side to side right? You don't get a different perspective up and down.
What would be cool is if Google actually pick this up and add it to their Google Home product line
or to pixel 4
How does it work exactly with combining the 45 views?
So normal ldc pixels project a single light ray and it spreads out in almost all directions. You could think of the pixels here as hemispherical. They project different light rays(with varying colour and intensity) depending on two angles (azimuth and altitude). It starts with a normal lcd screen and they add a plate which directs the light to different angles depending on the spatial translation of the lcd pixels below
I imagine it works much like FOVI3D. I found this diagram helpful: static1.squarespace.com/static/5644a5f8e4b07810c0b90694/t/5b8811656d2a73c0d2ef2b53/1535644014073/DK2_hogel_breakdown.jpg
@@j________k Thank you very much. So can I imagine the redirection as not radial but linear rays getting to a microarray of lenses that combine the views into one? I still can't imagine why the glass box is so deep...
@@SinanAkkoyun Yep I think you've got it, it takes a bunch of input pixels in the layer below and combines these into a single "light field pixel" vias lens with 45 views spread out based on the radial angles. So as for why its soon deep ide expect the screen and lenses to be a good couple of cm but no more. But... driving this sort of gigapixel display setup will require a lot of electronics, so I think most of this depth is just that.
@@j________k I mean the depth of the "glass" part, not the drivers. Anyways, your diagram helped very much. But they would have to have a really really high resolution display...
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Hey guys,
You should make a 3D video of this item so that Oculus Go users or others with a 3D capable screen can actually see what this is all about.