A great review, thank you for the upload. Just like to add, I've dealt with Wex, made purchases etc, brilliant service. Whereas the problems with MPB, getting ripped off, never again. Anybody out there reading this, WEX are brilliant.
I have to say, I love your reviews! They are fun, objective, and you do a great job of demonstrating how the various features actually work in real shooting situations. Despite all the negative complaining I've read since the OM-5 was announced, overall it looks like a capable and fun camera. Unfortunately for OM System I am still involved in a love affair with my E-M1X. 🙂 (And if I were to cheat on it, it would be with the OM-1)
Hi, great review and very useful. I'm looking at getting this camera for my daughter as her first serious camera (the weather sealing and portability are a major factor). Also looking at getting her a decent tripod - something light and portable (doesn't need to be full height). The tripod you're using at 6:24 looks ideal. In the description you list the Manfrotto Befree Advanced under kit used to make the video, but that doesn't look anything light the one shown in the shot. Can you tell me which tripod that is at 6:24 please?
That does not seem like a very good comparison. They are two vastly different cameras in almost every way -- not the least of which is price. The OM-5 is a compact, walk about camera -- great for street shooting, or photos of the relatives visiting, etc.. The OM-1 is a Birding/Wildlife/Sports beast begging for a long telephoto lens. It is better technically in every way over the OM-5, and is priced accordingly. A comparison would be like comparing the Canon R10 and the Canon R3 -- what's the point?
Thank you both very much, great information, great video, enjoyed very very much ,,absolutely spiffing, om 5 will be my next purchase! Thanks much from 71 year old grandfather
OM Systems need to manage expectations better because the good upgrades will be ignored given people were expecting the new OM1 sensor and will be disappointed it's the same sensor as the EM5 MK3. Unfortunately I believe that will be the big feedback.
So how much will you pay to get a smaller camera with the newest OM-1 sensor? This camera is $1,200, much less expense than the OM-1. Something tells me with the new sensor it would likely have been $1,600-1,700. Then everyone will complain about the price. Lol.
@@WhoIsSerafin yeah, an OM-5 with a new sensor, I'd pay the same price for that than the X-T5. However with the older sensor and processor it's about $500 less based on the price in the States.
Maybe there is room for OMDS to do an OM-3 model - with the stacked sensor and most/all of the AF performance of the OM-1, in a Fuji X-T5 body style, perhaps even with some of those manual controls that many photographers enjoy about Fuji such as exposure comp/shutter speed/ISO dials. I always thought M43 was an ideal system for that compact, premium, retro styling and tactile controls and have been suprised & disappointed that both Pana and Oly have been a bit half-arsed with it. So here is an opporunity for them to do a just-below-flagship Fuji competitor. As an EM5.III owner myself, it being only my second M43 camera and the first where I've made it my sole system and invested in a lens collection, the OM-5 does seem like a disappointing update. I really can understand why they couldn't put in the OM-1 sensor and most of its tech at the chosen price point but I feel as if they could've done more. At the very least, some body upgrades like adding a focus joystick and exposure comp dial (the latter would be particularly appreciated now it seems clear there will be no Pen-F replaement so it would be nice for OMDS to have at least one model in their lineup with that classic premium aesthetic and an exposure comp dial). Reinforcing the tripod mount would also have been good as I'd love to use a Peak Design capture clip and the bottom plate for my Leash but I'm terrified it will break the tripod mount and leave me with a smashed camera. Ideally I would've also liked to see the AI autofocus/subject tracking too, even in a cut down form i.e. bird detection only. The OM-5 is already down on PDAF points compared to its peers so incporating just a little of that great AI focus tech could level things out again. But what we got was essentially a basic software upgrade...
Hi Mick, yes the Micro 4/3rds mount or MFT was a standard released in 2008 jointly by both Olympus and Panasonic meaning that the lens mount and sensor dimensions were not tied to one manufacturer.
Was this a serious high resolution test ? It shows perhaps that you can do it handheld but that's all. Sony just announced a A7rV ( a much more expensive camera) with an interesting feature: it is supposed to deal with the artefacts issued by moving subjects like the grass on your shot.
@@markhoffman9655 Comparable ? Just read again my remark , it is not a comparison between the OM5 and the Sony. It is about this « test ». No camera is currently able to deal with with moving subjects like this grass in the wind when using pixel shift . It seems that only the new Sony would be able to do it. By the way it is not a question of sensor size but of software…
And it's still using the same body of the EM5m3, which was itself dated when it was released. The same sensor! The same menu system! The same poor video capabilities!!! This camera feels like 2015. and it has still Micro USB... I stay with my EM5 Mark II. It gives almost everything and in a metal body with a bigger battery. This 'new' camera is a sad joke.
I have the EM5 Mark ii as well and love it. Having said that, if the OM5 would have been released in the metal Mark ii body, I would go for it. Some features like the improved weather proofing, the built in ND filters, handheld hiRes, higher megapixel sensor (compared to the Mark ii), improved stabilization etc. are significant for me. I actually like the menu system of the EM5 mark ii so that is not an issue for me. In fact keeping the menu system the same would lessen the learning curve if I upgraded. When you say the body is "outdated" , what are you referring to i.e. what features are deficient for you ? Personally I love the Mark ii body despite its age and the OM5 body is not that different in terms of shape ...
@@gabithemagyar I don't think it has improved sealing. The mark II can also withstand the same, they just didn't give a guarantee for it. It's the same body as the mark 3. Exactly the same. So same sealing.
@@gabithemagyar Sorry, didn't mean the body. I love its appearance and size and everything. I just don't like that they did the 5 series to a cheap plastic and removed almost all the cool features of the 1. Until EM5 Mark II, the 5 series was a smaller version of the 1 that serious amateurs loved: smaller, less frames per seconds and some more stuff that pro needs, but well built from metal, same sensor, same software. Here it looks they disabled features intentionally. And it is dated compared to other cameras in the same price level - like Fuji and Sony. For $1200 I expect in the end of 2022 more than the plastic body of the em5m3 from 2019 with the same sensor of 2019 - which was already then underwhelming in itself. And it has Micro USB connection and it even doesn't come with a charger, so are you supposed to charge this camera with Micro USB cable for hours, in almost 2023? It gives very poor value. You can buy a used EM5 m2 for 350 euro in very good condition and get a better built body with a better battery and yes, just 4 mp less. A camera from February 2015, almost 8 years ago.
Yeah, it doesn’t seem like cheap 80s SLR plastic, but compared to the gorgeous metal body of the EM5 II, it’s a downgrade. At this price point, and with all the lovely metal bodies from Fujifilm, OM System should listen to customers and go back to premium metal bodies in the mid range.
Tend to agree, a year later the camera is a complete dud. It was an effort by OM systems to rebrand the EM5 which really should have been an EM5 mk4. Intentionally crippled in the new OM lineup and a very bad look for OM systems. What I like about the EM5 mk2 is that it was released after the EM1 and was a definite upgrade across the board, plus that lovely magnesian alloy body.
A great review, thank you for the upload. Just like to add, I've dealt with Wex, made purchases etc, brilliant service. Whereas the problems with MPB, getting ripped off, never again. Anybody out there reading this, WEX are brilliant.
I have to say, I love your reviews! They are fun, objective, and you do a great job of demonstrating how the various features actually work in real shooting situations. Despite all the negative complaining I've read since the OM-5 was announced, overall it looks like a capable and fun camera. Unfortunately for OM System I am still involved in a love affair with my E-M1X. 🙂 (And if I were to cheat on it, it would be with the OM-1)
Nice review guys, camera looks good and many new useful upgrades for the outdoor photographer.
Hi, great review and very useful. I'm looking at getting this camera for my daughter as her first serious camera (the weather sealing and portability are a major factor). Also looking at getting her a decent tripod - something light and portable (doesn't need to be full height). The tripod you're using at 6:24 looks ideal. In the description you list the Manfrotto Befree Advanced under kit used to make the video, but that doesn't look anything light the one shown in the shot. Can you tell me which tripod that is at 6:24 please?
Thank you! Hope it was useful. The Tripod is from Peak Design: www.wexphotovideo.com/peak-design-travel-tripod-carbon-1730981/
I waited for the Cashback and bought it! It is a amazing Camera!
Very ncie! I always enjoy your videos. Great work by you and James!
Thank you, Rasmus!
I’d love to see you guys do a comparison video between this OM-5 and the OM-1.
Thanks for the feedback! We will keep that in mind.
That does not seem like a very good comparison. They are two vastly different cameras in almost every way -- not the least of which is price. The OM-5 is a compact, walk about camera -- great for street shooting, or photos of the relatives visiting, etc.. The OM-1 is a Birding/Wildlife/Sports beast begging for a long telephoto lens. It is better technically in every way over the OM-5, and is priced accordingly. A comparison would be like comparing the Canon R10 and the Canon R3 -- what's the point?
Thank you both very much, great information, great video, enjoyed very very much ,,absolutely spiffing, om 5 will be my next purchase! Thanks much from 71 year old grandfather
OM Systems need to manage expectations better because the good upgrades will be ignored given people were expecting the new OM1 sensor and will be disappointed it's the same sensor as the EM5 MK3. Unfortunately I believe that will be the big feedback.
So how much will you pay to get a smaller camera with the newest OM-1 sensor? This camera is $1,200, much less expense than the OM-1. Something tells me with the new sensor it would likely have been $1,600-1,700. Then everyone will complain about the price. Lol.
Should at the very least had the same menu system.
@@RobShootPhotos same price as the new xt5
@@WhoIsSerafin yeah, an OM-5 with a new sensor, I'd pay the same price for that than the X-T5. However with the older sensor and processor it's about $500 less based on the price in the States.
Maybe there is room for OMDS to do an OM-3 model - with the stacked sensor and most/all of the AF performance of the OM-1, in a Fuji X-T5 body style, perhaps even with some of those manual controls that many photographers enjoy about Fuji such as exposure comp/shutter speed/ISO dials. I always thought M43 was an ideal system for that compact, premium, retro styling and tactile controls and have been suprised & disappointed that both Pana and Oly have been a bit half-arsed with it. So here is an opporunity for them to do a just-below-flagship Fuji competitor.
As an EM5.III owner myself, it being only my second M43 camera and the first where I've made it my sole system and invested in a lens collection, the OM-5 does seem like a disappointing update. I really can understand why they couldn't put in the OM-1 sensor and most of its tech at the chosen price point but I feel as if they could've done more.
At the very least, some body upgrades like adding a focus joystick and exposure comp dial (the latter would be particularly appreciated now it seems clear there will be no Pen-F replaement so it would be nice for OMDS to have at least one model in their lineup with that classic premium aesthetic and an exposure comp dial). Reinforcing the tripod mount would also have been good as I'd love to use a Peak Design capture clip and the bottom plate for my Leash but I'm terrified it will break the tripod mount and leave me with a smashed camera.
Ideally I would've also liked to see the AI autofocus/subject tracking too, even in a cut down form i.e. bird detection only. The OM-5 is already down on PDAF points compared to its peers so incporating just a little of that great AI focus tech could level things out again. But what we got was essentially a basic software upgrade...
Enjoyed! Nice camera! Looks great for hiking, outdoors etc. Church photo looked great…a little darker added to the mood!
Thanks!
Thank you . . . great video . . . I love my OM-5 ... with my f4 lens. Great travel combination.
Great to hear!
Excellent video 😮!
Thank you very much!
Nice vlog, and good to see James from my local Milton Keynes branch 👋
Thanks, Sue! We're glad to see you here too. :)
Given the minor feature improvement, do you think it's worth while upgrading from the old EM 5.3?
No. However it's good to know that if you're current camera breaks, there is still this slightly improved one to buy.
Coming from full frame I'm confused. Is micro 4 3rds an actual mount? If so that's insane, I wish this was the case on the bigger boys.
Hi Mick, yes the Micro 4/3rds mount or MFT was a standard released in 2008 jointly by both Olympus and Panasonic meaning that the lens mount and sensor dimensions were not tied to one manufacturer.
Was this a serious high resolution test ? It shows perhaps that you can do it handheld but that's all.
Sony just announced a A7rV ( a much more expensive camera) with an interesting feature: it is supposed to deal with the artefacts issued by moving subjects like the grass on your shot.
At 3x the price and a 35mm sensor - so how is that comparable?
@@markhoffman9655 Comparable ? Just read again my remark , it is not a comparison between the OM5 and the Sony. It is about this « test ». No camera is currently able to deal with with moving subjects like this grass in the wind when using pixel shift . It seems that only the new Sony would be able to do it. By the way it is not a question of sensor size but of software…
If you want people to see the difference, extend the period users can view it.
And it's still using the same body of the EM5m3, which was itself dated when it was released.
The same sensor! The same menu system! The same poor video capabilities!!! This camera feels like 2015.
and it has still Micro USB...
I stay with my EM5 Mark II. It gives almost everything and in a metal body with a bigger battery. This 'new' camera is a sad joke.
I have the EM5 Mark ii as well and love it. Having said that, if the OM5 would have been released in the metal Mark ii body, I would go for it. Some features like the improved weather proofing, the built in ND filters, handheld hiRes, higher megapixel sensor (compared to the Mark ii), improved stabilization etc. are significant for me. I actually like the menu system of the EM5 mark ii so that is not an issue for me. In fact keeping the menu system the same would lessen the learning curve if I upgraded. When you say the body is "outdated" , what are you referring to i.e. what features are deficient for you ? Personally I love the Mark ii body despite its age and the OM5 body is not that different in terms of shape ...
@@gabithemagyar I don't think it has improved sealing. The mark II can also withstand the same, they just didn't give a guarantee for it. It's the same body as the mark 3. Exactly the same. So same sealing.
@@gabithemagyar Sorry, didn't mean the body. I love its appearance and size and everything. I just don't like that they did the 5 series to a cheap plastic and removed almost all the cool features of the 1. Until EM5 Mark II, the 5 series was a smaller version of the 1 that serious amateurs loved: smaller, less frames per seconds and some more stuff that pro needs, but well built from metal, same sensor, same software. Here it looks they disabled features intentionally. And it is dated compared to other cameras in the same price level - like Fuji and Sony.
For $1200 I expect in the end of 2022 more than the plastic body of the em5m3 from 2019 with the same sensor of 2019 - which was already then underwhelming in itself.
And it has Micro USB connection and it even doesn't come with a charger, so are you supposed to charge this camera with Micro USB cable for hours, in almost 2023?
It gives very poor value. You can buy a used EM5 m2 for 350 euro in very good condition and get a better built body with a better battery and yes, just 4 mp less. A camera from February 2015, almost 8 years ago.
Yeah, it doesn’t seem like cheap 80s SLR plastic, but compared to the gorgeous metal body of the EM5 II, it’s a downgrade. At this price point, and with all the lovely metal bodies from Fujifilm, OM System should listen to customers and go back to premium metal bodies in the mid range.
Tend to agree, a year later the camera is a complete dud. It was an effort by OM systems to rebrand the EM5 which really should have been an EM5 mk4. Intentionally crippled in the new OM lineup and a very bad look for OM systems. What I like about the EM5 mk2 is that it was released after the EM1 and was a definite upgrade across the board, plus that lovely magnesian alloy body.
"Sheep!"