This bike can't be THAT GOOD...right? | 2021 Yamaha MT09sp suspension test
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2021
- There's a lot of hype for the 2021 Yamaha MT-09 SP, and its sweet suspension setup, but is it really all they say it is? We aim to find out, but putting it through its paces in the North Georgia mountains, at Blueridge.
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You loved the MT-07 so much it convinced me to buy one. Just got my official lisence and I'm gonna take a spin later today!
Nice, I got mine in sept as my first bike. Literally probably have less than 200 personal miles riding it and I love it. I learned on my friends r6 which has a totally different seating position. I just prefer the naked bike and mt07 is clearly the way.
i also have the MT07 Completely love it. 20k in 1 year.
i got my official lisence today for 35kw+ and i also orderd the 09 SP🔥🔥
I had gotten my mt07 a couple weeks before chase did the review on it, I didn’t even understand the concept of how to wheelie. I’m at balance point now.
@@TypicalMT I accidentally dumped the clutch in second and the front tire lifter right up. Sure caught me by surprise!
@@modehfy1352 my first official ride was close to 85 miles. I live in NC where we have plenty of twisty mountain roads to explore!
I cant wait to see your thoughts on the new MT-10. Seeing how well the MT-09 has been I think it will be very good!
Thanks for all these mt09 videos. I bought my 2021 SP yesterday. I’m in love with it. Keep up the great work my dude
Thanks for bringing us the beautiful views up there Chase!
R9 is definitely on the way. I love that Yamaha has adapted to the times and instead of being arrogant about the sportbike heritage they focused on building an impressive platform that would work extremely well as a naked and brought the fun comfortable naked bike to market 1st. It's their best seller and focusing on that allows them the secure funds to make the R9 which will be amazing and cater to the core heritage of the brand but won't sell as well and bring in enough margin. Porsche did this to when they realized that by selling premium consumer cars (like the SUVs and sedans )they can fund the core cars that lovers of the brands yearn for like the 911 GT3. kudos Yamaha
Thanks for sharing. I was getting anxious watching all the mt07 videos and knew this was coming. I want the mt09sp... damn you Chase.
Absolutely an amazing bike. Can’t wait to get mine although I’ll be getting the non SP model.
OC great video as usual. Looking forward to seeing the new XSR900 in person.
I'd love to see a more detailed comparison between the 09 SP and your MT10!
I recall him saying in a comment in one of these videos that he would consider trading his 10 for a 09SP if given the option. The mt09SP is 50 pounds lighter than the mt 10. I believe the power to weight ratio is better on the mt09
Best MT09 video I've seen Thanks
Great description on the feel you get when you have a great run. I never not get that feeling, I always have certain roads on a ride I can push the bike and feel the G's
will be getting an sp soon can’t wait
OC: You were right Chris, this was the one to watch for sure!
Been looking forward to this one !! Don’t ruin my hopes & dreams chase !! Looking like my next bike 💯
Me Too
Intro crew commenting before video starts yoooo lets go!
I just bought an MT-09! It's SOOOOOO GOOOOD!
OC I know you already did a first ride on a older z900 but would be interested in seeing a comparison video between the new z900sp and this!!!
Beautiful motorcycle. Love it!
Power is the same on mode 1,2,3. Using mode 1 vs 3 the only difference is not needing to twist the throttle so much.
Engine braking is fixed. BC is Brake control, level 2 means cornering ABS ON, level 1 only ABS is ON.
How on Earth could anyyone criticise such a great bike that costs so little money, comparatively, and nit-pick stuff about it? See your comments. It's a marvel, and is all the bike that anyone needs for the road. Looking at your speedo, there was a very big difference in terms of speed compared to the MT07, when you rode the same road. That must, mainly, be the suspension and confidence.
Can you make a video about the things you love and hate about your MT-10?
When you finally bought it, I was hoping for more videos about it 🙁
great review I absolutely love my 09sp. You mentioned engine brake control? It doesn't have this feature as far as I am aware?
10 out of 10 / MT - Master of torque 🔥💖
OC: An R9 would probably tweak your back. It's 4 months to the day that I placed a down payment on a MT-09 SP....that were already on back order at the shop. Already bought blue/gold ASV Levers. I'm looking forward to a review of the 2022 MT-10 SP that comes out in May
I hope for 2022 they let us buy the Mt10 SP in America. I would buy it in a heartbeat. I’m at the age now and my R1 is kicking my butt ergonomics wise and I’m looking to move over to a naked and the 2022 MT10-SP seems to be exactly what I want. It ticks all the boxes for me,
MT 09? Am not experienced enough but I love the MT family, I would love the MT 03 or the MT 125 never the less great scenery +great bike = great video love the riding too👍👍👍
It's a testament when people spend thousands on fancy exhaust systems and ECU flashes to go faster before they spend it on better suspension components. It really transforms any bike.
OC: I've been asking for an R9 since I got my '14 FZ-09 🤣. An R9 with all the SP goddies would be fuggin primo! 👌
OC: Heck yes, want it to be my next bike. i think it nails bang for buck really really well.
Can’t wait for the 2022 XSR900!!!
OT- searching for my first bike. You had me sold on the MT07 but now I’m wondering if I can handle an 09
I know you reside in Atlanta, but what mountains do you go up to? I’m moving to Asheville NC soon!
The headlamp kinda lots of reminiscing the Dukes series.. but its fine.. its cool !!!
I'd love to test ride that bike in the mountains 😍
Making me want an MT -09 sp after not having a bike since I sold my fz07
Chase! I have a question. I just saw that you got the MT-09 SP for a lengthy review! Super excited for that content. Do you have any idea what Yamaha does with these bikes that you review after you give them back? Considering these are “used” at that point I didn’t know if it was possible to purchase. If so I’d be very interested in the SP after the lengthy review
They could be press bikes
Those trees look beautiful
When's the new mt10 launching?
Does the SP come with braided brake lines?
yamaha 2022 needs to bring the MT-07 SP and an R9 and R9 SP
OC: My heart wants a R9 SP, but my back will scream😱 NOOOOOO. Honestly really want the MT09 SP. Even if I just got a new MT07. I literally got it as a commuter and so my gf who got a MT03 as her first motorcycle could have a great bike to progress to once her time with the MT03 is done. I guess then I'll get a MT09 SP for myself.
Omg I want one I miss riding my 2008 Honda VTX 1300
OC here,,,gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!
Well, duh Chase... You must've just started riding 🤣🤣
Engine braking set to 2? How do you adjust engine braking on this bike? 🤨🤔
I like the extra's but i don't like the colour scheme, think the 2022 MT09 is a better colour personally so will have to go with the non SP version...
sir, who records the video in front?
I love my 21 SP. Oddly, it looks just like the 22 SP 🤭🤣 Anyway, it's a great bike. It handles better in the canyons then any bike I've ever owned. It's slowly, making me a better rider in the canyons also just because it's so stable. I feel I'm still holding it back. A Lot. But I'll get there!
Will there be a 23 sP ??
1:25 nice shot
OC: graffiti and fall colors, that's a great picture moment
OC: I'm going to assume that an R9 would already come with the better suspension (no need for an SP). Also I really think this bike is worth comparing to the Street Triple.
Street triple is better for the track, the mt09 is the better road bike
You sold me on the MT07 2021 and I bought it brand new. Bike is great but after watching all these MT09 videos made me feel like I settled for an inferior bike😔
THERE IS NO ENGINE BRAKING SETTING, IT'S 1 FOR STANDARD ABS AND 2 FOR CORNERING ABS AND STANDARD!
How tall is Chase?
Brakes and dash are subpar for the up-spec version of a bike. Yamaha always building to a budget.
🔥🔥🔥
I have a mt-09 sp and the only thing that will make me sell my bike would be a r9!
Wonder if that was fuel or oil.
I own a 21 MT09SP. The lower the TCS number the less system intervention. Also, don't think there is a setting for engine braking on the bike. There is the BC setting which controls how ABS acts. Did you setup/adjust the suspension for you? Keep up the good work.
Exactly, also have one. All settings are 1 min intervention, 2 a bit more...., or if you go to M there you can turn everything off except ABS. BC-brake control indicates ABS mode, its 1 or 2 meaning 1 regular ABS, only when the bike is upwards, 2 cornering ABS, it takes i account those 6 axis and helps if you block the brakes while leaned in corner so you dont low side (it should help, at least it is ment to help :)). The bike doesn't have engine brake control. Allso, drive modes 1-3, all power available except throttle response is different, drive mode 4 adds power limit. All in all, great bike.
Incidentally, the lower the tcs number the lesser engine braking it has. You can try it out yourself.
@@Vrbisimus can you tell me is this bike equipped with up and down quick shifter ?
@@billhamilton7524 it is
@@Vrbisimus way cool,,thanks
What mountain were you riding up in this video? I want to take a trip there.
Blood 🩸 mountain ⛰️ overlook in Georgia
Hey Chase!
I am fortunate to live in the same area as you so I recognize all the nearby mountains and stuff. Which is cool.
I do have a question about this bike. Does the SP version come with a quick shifter or is it an optional add on?
It comes with it on the SP version
@@user-yo1bj2lv8x Very cool.
Thanks! 👍🏻
OC: I’d still take the MT09… I love the naked riding position.
Also, I’m curious how the regular MT09 compares. I’ve got a 21 MT09, and can’t imagine the SP is really that much better. The regular one has been great so far!
For lighter rider non-sp bike is okey. Other bonus from sp is you can maintenance rear shock so you dont need to replace it every 30k driven.
It's got the better suspension and cruise control, it's worth that $2500 upgrade
R9 ^ sp?
all good ,but the road that you riding is very good, i mean , no death traps ,holes or bumbs here and there..
how mt09 goes on bad roads really??
how tall are you (cm)
Anyone who got it new from a dealer, please share the final out of the door price you paid along with state.
I know this bike 🏍️ is in demand but I want to pay a fair price
I knew it was blood mountain. I live in blairsville
So what’s gonna be better 2021 mt-09sp or 2022 xsr900 ? And really aren’t they the same seating position now ? What’s the point if they are the same ?
Looks. The xsr is a retro style. That's really been the only real difference all along. So if you like the mt look get it ,but if you despise the transformer looks and want something more classically styled wit that same awesome package then the xsr is for you
@@danlford I've just been at my dealer for my MT09 maintenance and saw xsr900 there. I've asked if it pulls as good as MT09 - mechanic said that XSR900 has more tamed factory power settings compared to MT09.
@bosk1n That's a surprise... interesting.
The XSR has a longer swingarm too which probably makes it a tad less agile and less wheely happy but more stable at high speeds.
Blood mountain?
This bike head to head with yours : what are you choosing and why ?
I'm choosing mine... cos it's a 23 model MT09 SP in silver.
I bought a left over new 2017 model back in 2018 & although I love the motor & acceleration the handling is just horrible. It feels unstable in corners & the front end shakes violently under hard acceleration. It's like a wild horse that refuses to be broken & wants to kill me. I've tried different suspension settings & tire pressures & even bought a $500 steering damper which helped some but it's still a problem. I know this experience is not unique to me because I've read this is an issue for many owners & understand Yamaha tweaked the frame geometry for 2021 to address this issue. I'm 65 & have been riding since I was 13 & have owned & ridden quite a few bikes including sport bikes & have never had this issue before. I wouldn't recommend this bike for beginners even without the handling issues. Another thing is that, like any sporting type bike, it invites all the dumbass punks in their diesel engine P/U trucks to try & goad you into a race or "role coal" on you which is very popular here in Texas with those idiots. In fact, a few months ago some 16 year old kid hit six bicyclists while attempting that & significantly injuring two of them. So watch out for those morons.
My 2017 MT09 had terrible head shake under hard acceleration when my preload was set too firm. Once I softened it a bit the issue completely disappeared and never had the problem again.
i like soft suspension better, its allow faster weight shifting thus better braking performance.
There is nothing good about nose dive. It upsets the bike under aggressive braking and will actually cause you to lose the front.
Mt 09 its soft👍
The extra for the SP is worth it for the upgraded suspension and cruse control, but I would be careful if you are on the extreme smaller or extreme bigger size. The upgrade may not be perfect for you. It's better for sure but if you are really light or really heavy you may want to have a spring rate more suited for your weight in the after market. You could end up spending extra money even if you go with the SP model to have to change springs in the forks and the spring in the rear to match you specifically if you are real light or real heavy. The SP will suit most people and i am only talking about the few people on either end of the really big or small spectrum.
No engine noise
Yes it is and 3 bags of sea salt and pepper chips
So is it 2021 or 2022. Title of the video says 2022, you say in the video 2021
How to compare with 765 RS?
765 RS has a much better frame, less flex and handles way better. The 765 has less torque, more of a high RPM screamer vs the larger, torquier engine of the MT09.
R9 pretty plox
What about an MT07 SP. I’d love that because I’m a lot less experienced than you guys to ride a 900cc
Trust me I went from a 250 to the MT09SP and with all the electronics it's not an unmanageable leap. Yeah it's quick but the electronics keep you very safe. On a service I was given a MT07 to ride and it sounded like a tractor with half the power. The MT09 21/22 is a gem, a very safe commuter but if you open its up it's explosive but still safe with the electronics so you will never get tired of the power.
@@hiddendragon415 Thanks for that information, I'm very keen for next year.
I like your vids but man just leave the bike in the most powerful map turn wheelie control off and just learn to handle it
Check out my owner’s review on my channel - this is a fantastic machine but there is a problem with the ECU programming
Amazing bike but I expected better brakes for the price 😭
OC I've said it before and I'll say it again. If they bring the r9 it will be the bike that makes me get a divorce. I'm going to have to get it.
Dont like the color pf the SP at all. Rather get a regular one and upgrade the suspension öater.
Great motorcycle finally. But still ugly. Fortunately new 2022 XSR 900 is a beauty in my eyes.
I have a MT-09 SP coming next week. The first thing that is gotta change is the rear fender. That thing is HUGE! I actually think Yamaha is Japanese for "GIANT FENDER" 'cause Yamaha puts them on every bike. This is my 3rd Yamaha and every one of them had a giant rear fender and everyone of mine got a tail-tidy early in ownership. I have ordered some frame sliders and that is all at the moment.
Are these bikes hard to come buy
@@Anonymous-jj9yu I called a dealer I liked. He said he had his order canceled. But he said his computer showed there were 26 bikes like I wanted in the US. He gave me the name and number of the dealers the computer said had them. He called back about 30 minutes later and said they would travel and get the bike for me from one of the other dealers. The dealer computer network is superior to the consumer network.
So if you have a dealer you like, call them and let them find the bike for you.
I have not changed out my fender yet because the bags I got for the bike are not compatible with the fender and turn signals on the small fender. But I love the bike! I just don't look at the rear often.
@@dahveed284 damm I have no dealer like that haven’t ever bought a bike of a dealer yet 😅
@@Anonymous-jj9yu I got my bike in OKLAHOMA. If you’re willing to travel I will tell you who I purchased it from.
@@dahveed284 just around 4 hrs huh before that did you pay for it cash or financing
So, you feel a little wobble and gives it 10/10!? Weird..
Suspension can’t make up for a poorly designed frame that has a ton of flex, which is the MT lineup’s biggest letdown
@@sleeper.simulant7327 With the old MT09's yes but the gen3 is 90% different to the gen2 and is 50% stiffer.
The gen2 had a swingarm that mounted to the outside of the frame, meaning the rear portions of the frame had to be squeezed inside the swingarm pivot. This narrowing created a certain amount of flex at the rear of the bike.
The gen3 is now using a swingarm pivot that is mounted between the frame, so the width of the section can be maintained which improves stiffness and it now feels as stiff as a good supersport.
COG has been lowered and moved forward, Headstock also lowered a whole 50mm? Iirc.. to put more weight over the front with new geometry. They have really made a big effort to address all the flaws of the old one.
@@paulhope3401are you talking about the 2024 model or the model that came out in 2021
@beverleynorth4914 The 2021> is the Gen 3... the Gen 4 2024> is fundamentally the same frame as the Gen 3 with regards to geometry, with some fairly minor lattice strengthening work. and also gets new engine mounts.
@@paulhope3401 thank you. Looks like gen 4 is also a more aggressive ergo setup; but up , weight on hands. Think gen 3 would suit me better
The suspension might be good but the headlight sucks.
XSR900 fixes that
so much oil on the mountain sheesh
You speak of this bike as if anyone can just go to a local Yamaha dealer and buy one of these. Well, ya can’t. NO dealers have these bikes. And if they do, they have build dates close to 16 months ago. An SP?😂 You’d have better luck hunting a unicorn. You won’t find one. You’ll be lucky to find a base 09, and if you do, it will be over one year old by now.
Lol are they really that hard to find
Suspension had better be what that bike is all about, as it suffers in the looks department. The front end, the truck muffler and the mismatch of the front frame and swingarm appearance. No thank you.
It's yummy... Really yummy
Well, duh... 😂
R9 💦💦💦
you ride an MT10, and can’t handle the full power lol come on my guy, the MT10 in TC1 w/Mode1 is a Kraken compared to the MT09
R9 sp?... no thanks 😖
I go naked, or I don’t go anywhere!
True 💯 I will always prefer naked bikes over supersport motorcycles 🤢
First
You tricked me. Your title says 2022, but you say 2021 in your video. Lame
These are the same bikes with slightly different tank color.
This is the dumbest test ever, dude is riding flat mirror road and talks about suspension🤦♂️ Btw owner of mt09 2021, riden on bumps, village shitty roads, mirror perfect roads, highways etc, and yes suspension even on regular model is very good. Playing with rebound, comp and preload you can fine tune suspension to be even better
Mt 09 Its a crusier, too uppright allround bike soft snd easy too drive, Street triple 765 rs more racey and faster🤙🔥🔥
…nahhhh, not faster. More racy for sure but not faster at all. Maybe top speed on German Autobahn but otherwise, nope…,
@@fragu123 the Street Triple is vastly superior. The frame is the major advantage, MT frames have flex which upsets the handling under hard cornering. The Street Triple has a much better, stiffer frame, which results in vastly superior handling…