How OKC is modernizing the pick-and-roll

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  • @MDLR
    @MDLR Год назад +824

    Also think Chet Holmgren should be able to seamlessly fit into this structure. If he can reliably hit the 3 ball, Thunder will be cooking with gas. He also gives them an extra vertical spacing option for lobs

    • @QuaiChandler-nn5du
      @QuaiChandler-nn5du Год назад +48

      He is already an underrated cutter too. Can't wait to see SGA screen for him and for the defense to choose between a bunch of bad decisions.

    • @alandpost
      @alandpost Год назад +25

      I just hope he doesn't jump too much. Gotta preserve the knees and feet.

    • @KorEditing
      @KorEditing Год назад +2

      chet is gonna bust man calling it now

    • @ryantristani5091
      @ryantristani5091 Год назад +31

      @@KorEditingAyo? 🤨

    • @thparadox21
      @thparadox21 Год назад +1

      Chet can point guard this too. Great passer

  • @obnoxiouslakerfan
    @obnoxiouslakerfan Год назад +33

    I'm still recovering from how amazing the Ginobili videos and then Mike drops this banger... this channel is on another level

  • @hahayoungster4629
    @hahayoungster4629 Год назад +29

    "this defender"
    *me laughing cuz I'm realizing it's freaking KWAHI LEONARD

  • @sstavo_
    @sstavo_ Год назад +136

    Shoutout to coach Mark Daignealt for always experimenting with offense but prioritizing defense first he’s an amazing coach maybe the best Okc has had so far and he works with his players and pushes all of them to not be one dimensional players glad he’s coaching these young guys

    • @aoldatabase
      @aoldatabase Год назад

      where else has he coached?

    • @sstavo_
      @sstavo_ Год назад +12

      @@aoldatabase only okc gleauge and now the main team and before that only assistant to college teams

    • @aoldatabase
      @aoldatabase Год назад +3

      @@sstavo_ cool thanks for letting me kn0w!

  • @badger297
    @badger297 Год назад +20

    I like that Ben is letting other people shine. I've grown quite accustomed to Ben's breakdowns, but I liked this too. If you're ever on here again, tryst yourself. I can almost hear the nervousness in your voice. You got this homie. You did great 👍

  • @chesscomposer_
    @chesscomposer_ Год назад +120

    Great work, Mike! Would love to see you do more videos!

  • @Masoch1st
    @Masoch1st Год назад +15

    good job mike. okc is definitely one of my favorite up n coming teams and i'm thrilled to have a new budding superstar coming out of NA. This team has all the talent and draft capital in the world. Sky is the limit.

  • @ziggle5000
    @ziggle5000 Год назад +53

    It's exciting how many young teams there are that are able to competently implement offensive concepts. Stuff like this shows how much the average game knowledge of players entering the league has improved imo. And obviously probably coaching improvements at all levels of basketball as well. Futures bright for the league.

    • @augustosarmentodeoliveira3023
      @augustosarmentodeoliveira3023 Год назад +2

      for sure

    • @KermRiv
      @KermRiv Год назад +3

      Definitely the most interesting part of any sport to me. It's an evolution that we can actually watch in our lifetimes.

  • @SenorAzazel
    @SenorAzazel Год назад +194

    Yo this young squad is going to be scary good, they've got a PG in Shai who can get you 31pts on any given night/then add Giddey someone who can get their own 16+ pts with 8 trb an 6ast... Oh also let me not forget they got a lethal big man in Chet who in of it's self is a cheat code this team is going to be lovely to watch.

    • @joshs6535
      @joshs6535 Год назад +24

      Not to mention JDub the future all star. (Bonus: Lu Dort, the Dorture Chamber)

    • @bender4183
      @bender4183 Год назад +5

      Chet’s spacing will be a blessing for this team given there style. Great fit for him.

    • @kubaszymkowiak
      @kubaszymkowiak Год назад +3

      ​@@bender4183Chet vs. Wemby is going to be a great rivalry. Shame that they don't play in the same division as we should get as much of it as possible.

    • @GoPoketheBird
      @GoPoketheBird Год назад +1

      @@kubaszymkowiakwe’ve got them in the in season tournament tho

    • @shade_steppa
      @shade_steppa Год назад +4

      @@joshs6535 Everytime I see OKC practices, JDubb is torching everybody. Defensive clamps potential too. He's an all-star in the making I see it

  • @0401412740
    @0401412740 Год назад +1

    Excellent analysis.... Pure basketball teamwork and IQ. There's a segment of fans than enjoy this rather than pure highlights

  • @cfbaddict7284
    @cfbaddict7284 Год назад +8

    Thanks Mike! Great insight, would definitely love to hear more of his thoughts. I love guard-guard screens and wish more teams used them, but that was more because of short roll play making, I never thought of the increased pace in the half court offense. I also never realized what starting a shooter in the paint and having him relocate did to weak side help and that feels really eye opening for me. Your videos always help me appreciate the intricacies of the game more, thank you!

  • @Sparkz0032
    @Sparkz0032 Год назад +1

    This warms my soul...Shit is beautiful to watch and the way you explained it was perfect.

  • @russp1212
    @russp1212 Год назад +13

    Man that play at 4:45 is fascinating to watch. Seems like OKC always gives the ballhandler 2-3 options per play, up to them to make the right read though. Also noticed that the ballhandler for any play seems to prey on hesitation - if the helpside defender hesitates for even a second, OKC takes advantage of that. Insanely well-coached, insanely talented, they will win a chip one day

    • @trumpies
      @trumpies Год назад

      Much respect on OKC head coach, he is a great offensive coach getting these young guys to buy in and involved like this.

    • @kramsemaj7869
      @kramsemaj7869 Год назад

      Make that half a second or quarter second, 1 second is like an eternity and these guys are attacking on a very slight head turn of the defender.

  • @bender4183
    @bender4183 Год назад +288

    This video was great, I love the analysis
    But personally, I prefer Ben’s delivery of information more. He can make basketball Xs and Os feel even more exiting with his audible excitement and the great combination of his visual/audio flair. Hopefully Mike can find his own style in those departments and thrive like Ben has, I can tell he has the bball IQ to do so.
    With that said, I appreciate anything that will help get us more quality thinking basketball content and would watch as many of these videos as possible.

    • @garrettwill1220
      @garrettwill1220 Год назад +53

      100% agree analysis was good. This guy could be good he just needs to work on his presentation.

    • @vishred
      @vishred Год назад +24

      Idk I actually really liked his delivery.

    • @bender4183
      @bender4183 Год назад +9

      @@vishred I didn’t hate it, it just felt more like a normal RUclipsr to me than Ben’s brilliance
      If you think it’s on Ben’s level, could you explain why? I would like to know to appreciate him more

    • @MrSyco07
      @MrSyco07 Год назад +27

      ​@@bender4183
      Ben has a lot more experience with his instrument which allows his personality to come through more. This creates a warm and genuine engagement, even when he's working through a less interesting bridging section from point to point. He's excellent at portraying his passion and excitement, which has the effect of making him feel likable and authoritative.
      Mike's voice has slightly less character than Ben's but it's not fatal.
      He should work on smiling when he really likes the content he's talking about, but not all the time. This will help build some dynamism into the presentation. I always tell people doing voiceovers to pretend they are reading a child a book. You naturally try to capture the child's attention with dramatic pausing and emphasis, different modes of voice (high and low, loud and soft, etc), connection to the content and facial/hand expressions. Then pull it back a little for an adult audience so it doesn't feel like a pantomime, but still fun to listen to.
      I record voiceovers and train presenters for a living.

    • @TimSasago
      @TimSasago Год назад +5

      @@vishred same, there is absolutely nothing wrong with just explaining it clearly and straight up like this. the "enthusiasm" can be found in the clarity and the content itself. people are just infected by a belief that all "content" has to be "entertaining"

  • @dz_ssbm
    @dz_ssbm Год назад +9

    mike's content is great. give us more plz 🙌

  • @orhanmadiassani
    @orhanmadiassani Год назад +4

    That team just shows how versatile young and upcoming players are as well as the shift in the nba from the 5 positions games to a center + 2 backcourt and 2 frontcourt versatile players.

  • @derekshin9284
    @derekshin9284 Год назад +8

    Thank you for such an awesome video! Highlighting multiple details in the same play by rolling it back and re-watching it was super helpful!

  • @Bula-Bula
    @Bula-Bula Год назад +6

    Great video! More Mike, please!

  • @atomsk1972
    @atomsk1972 Год назад +3

    I like Mike and I like Ben. This analysis was great - clear and understandable. It amazes me how quickly the whole team can adjust to a defender glancing one way and providing that split second of exploitation.

  • @bornballin3404
    @bornballin3404 Год назад +1

    Yes! More please! This was great! Their offense is going to be the start of positionless basketball fr

  • @GOATiology
    @GOATiology Год назад +1

    This was great! Thanks for sharing!
    I’m already a fan of Mike. Great debut.

  • @dysxxvii
    @dysxxvii Год назад +4

    Amazing content, more Mike and more OKC content please!

  • @TheNamesDitto
    @TheNamesDitto Год назад

    Been doing this for years in 2k and I'm happy it's finally getting some light on this channel

  • @injusticeanywherethreatens4810
    @injusticeanywherethreatens4810 Год назад +1

    Thanks Mike!

  • @stopitsims2519
    @stopitsims2519 Год назад +2

    Mike did such a good job!! More of him please

  • @bro_1337
    @bro_1337 Год назад +1

    Mike did a great job, thanks for the video. This is my favorite basketball channel to watch too. Looking forward to more videos.

  • @subete71studio
    @subete71studio Год назад +1

    Both yall are awesome!! Loved the past work, looking forward to the future content, and really appreciate the effort of presentation and information.

  • @mikemoran1966
    @mikemoran1966 Год назад +1

    I like Mike, he’s a great addition to Ben. There’s a lot to cover with todays talented young and upcoming teams. Go Pistons!

  • @mxtpo
    @mxtpo Год назад +2

    Go Mike do your thing we all ears

  • @davidevans8523
    @davidevans8523 Год назад +1

    Loved Mike! Great work

  • @nightshifthoops
    @nightshifthoops Год назад +3

    Mike did an awesome job looking forward to seeing more of his analysis and perspective in the future

  • @partysnax1984
    @partysnax1984 Год назад

    I thought this was refreshing! It took me a second to realize I wasn’t listening to Ben, and then I listened closer and he had some really good basketball analysis.
    Great video, I’ll be looking forward to more!

  • @BigBoyDanny123
    @BigBoyDanny123 Год назад +1

    This was super insightful. Loved it and hope for more

  • @cameronno6039
    @cameronno6039 Год назад +9

    I REALLY wish moving screens were still a thing. Offenses had way too much control. I'm very interested in more content like this though. This is a greatly informative/ entertaining channel.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Год назад +3

      Call moving screens and crack down on flopping for a start. Allow defenders to at least have their arms up or out, not having to worry about rip throughs and such.
      And then think about getting rid of Off/Def 3 seconds and goal tending. They are not needed with the way they league is going, and might help inject some balance into the League.

    • @cameronno6039
      @cameronno6039 Год назад

      Agreed with the exception of goaltending. What would you change about it and why?@@shorewall

  • @farronevans7850
    @farronevans7850 Год назад

    Yes Please - Awesome insight about the adjustments with the adjustments as well.

  • @H2Mass1
    @H2Mass1 Год назад +842

    How Thinking Basketball is modernizing Monday mornings after a week of bad seafood and the tumultuous turds that come with it

  • @L1tgawd
    @L1tgawd Год назад +1

    I like Mike's analysis.

  • @liekegerritsen1620
    @liekegerritsen1620 Год назад +4

    OKC did such a good job of targeting multiple ball handlers in the previous drafts. Perhaps an open door but if they can shoot at least league average from 3 (they were 17th last year, Shai, Giddey and Dort were below average) there should be a ton of space for the ball handlers to operate.

  • @osamaounallahkhamis2077
    @osamaounallahkhamis2077 Год назад +1

    Amazing breakdown. Would love more of this

  • @joshelliott6873
    @joshelliott6873 Год назад +1

    I’m interested in more of these… loved the analysis of how they mesh their innovative play style with unique personnel. Really got me excited about what the young team could turn into if they are able to keep this group together and implement Chet well

  • @meljay337
    @meljay337 Год назад +10

    You see this strat used in pickup ball a lot to keep the big from camping the paint but honestly with small ball and all these stretch bigs in the nba this might become a new norm. Dope assessment btw, I'll be watching for this more this season.

  • @coreyshafarman8918
    @coreyshafarman8918 Год назад +1

    Best basketball channel on RUclips just dropped more great content!

  • @Podsedneck
    @Podsedneck Год назад

    Absolutely, more Mike. Awesome video

  • @Bshue123
    @Bshue123 Год назад

    I can't get enough of Mike. WOOOO.

  • @ZuckerbergsAi
    @ZuckerbergsAi Год назад +1

    OKC generating another batch of incredible young talent has to be praised. if they trade some of their 100 picks they're winning a chip sooner rather than later

  • @joeyboikly
    @joeyboikly Год назад

    I’m convinced this channel is for people who’ve never played basketball, and therefore don’t understand the game, but like thinking about it.

  • @goldeninja
    @goldeninja Год назад +98

    Ben sounds a little different 😂

    • @Grievous_
      @Grievous_ Год назад +2

      Cuz it ain’t him, check the description

    • @goldeninja
      @goldeninja Год назад +10

      @@Grievous_ it's a joke 🤣

    • @zerocal76
      @zerocal76 Год назад

      ​@@Grievous_it was a yolk bro

    • @CHP.Spinna
      @CHP.Spinna Год назад

      I was thinking who tf is this guy

  • @theAhameds
    @theAhameds Год назад +1

    Love watching Daigneault blossom at OKC. Billy D was just like your typical coach from last generation of players, needing stars, length and athleticism to play fast and have successful transition ball. Daigneault really took the positionless basketball side and how the league is just pace-and-space on offense to a whole different level. Now that Shai is certified and looking forward to see Holmgren put it together, I expect that he'll win coach of the year this year building on their performance last year.

    • @spamandjamjamandspam8669
      @spamandjamjamandspam8669 Год назад

      You also got to blame okc gm for that roster construction more so than Billy. they had a bunch of guys with no offense and all defense surrounding russ and KD. Players like kanter, adams, robertson prevented them from playing like this. Sam realized his mistakes and is now contructing a better roster. its trial and error.

  • @MarkNishida-j8y
    @MarkNishida-j8y Год назад

    Great analysis Mike! Excited to see more from you

  • @Natethegreat4
    @Natethegreat4 Год назад +23

    It’s always cool to see modern NBA offenses and how they’ve evolved from the common NBA offenses of the past. Makes me confused on why they say defense in todays era is non existent. It’s hard to guard these offenses in this era. Just have to pick your poison. Thanks for the breakdown.

    • @ozymandias2630
      @ozymandias2630 Год назад +4

      Cause old heads don't actually watch modern basketball

  • @yourRockinwithth
    @yourRockinwithth Год назад

    That was awesome pleaseeee more❤❤❤❤❤.. You are fans and defense and even off while plays

  • @JahalaAndala
    @JahalaAndala Год назад

    Great video, as always. Keep grinding 🤙🏾🤙🏾

  • @tylerhatch8962
    @tylerhatch8962 Год назад

    Keep em coming, let's go Mike!

  • @AlexW-wv4nt
    @AlexW-wv4nt Год назад +1

    With the guy on the baseline popping out it’s almost like a spain pnr without actually setting the backscreen. Very interesting, i like mike’s point about okc taking advantage of their personnel- all three are threats driving and either finishing or passing as the lead ballhandler.

  • @Eduardo17Oliveira
    @Eduardo17Oliveira Год назад

    Great video as always! Good to see more people of the team doing the videos, gives me hope that we gonna have more content, Win win!

  • @Il-matic
    @Il-matic Год назад

    Yes we want more of that type of content 😊

  • @mikaanuba659
    @mikaanuba659 Год назад

    Definitely interested to see more vids like this!

  • @loulyn3
    @loulyn3 Год назад

    Awesome analysis, love learning these detailed strategies

  • @ray101892
    @ray101892 Год назад

    Love this channel. When I started watching the nba I was always stymied why eg. 1:35 with AD happens. I didn't know he was guarding the big man in the corner rather than just being out of it while the drive was happening. Being in the nba is hard. Being talented individually doesn't mean you'll make good, high pressure decisions all the time. String up a chain of poor decisions and you'll be benched.

  • @also3254
    @also3254 Год назад

    This is absolutely great!!

  • @MsJohnks
    @MsJohnks Год назад

    Amazing work. Please give us more videos like this

  • @matheusbarbalho5760
    @matheusbarbalho5760 Год назад

    Really nice video. Good pace and quality 🎉🎉

  • @AlexanderJaySports
    @AlexanderJaySports Год назад +1

    I am so, so excited to watch this offense this year. The addition of Chet is like the cherry on a sublime dessert cake

  • @RickyLaFlor
    @RickyLaFlor Год назад

    Is there a hockey equivalent to this channel. I’m enamored with this content

  • @Traveler42069
    @Traveler42069 Год назад +1

    Seeing Fancy crack up like that was gold. And seeing Bobby react to the shock collar like that also comedy gold 😂👌

  • @yayamoygeneral
    @yayamoygeneral Год назад

    Nice analysis Mike, keep it up, enjoyed ur delivery and the topic u chose, super interesting to listen and u provided perfect footage to get ur point across, go do more videos bro!!

  • @vidz7226
    @vidz7226 Год назад

    Love it Mike! Keep it coming

  • @tdhharris
    @tdhharris Год назад

    Great analysis - thanks for this

  • @ryanandrewbaker
    @ryanandrewbaker Год назад

    Love it from Mike

  • @yuppy02
    @yuppy02 Год назад

    great breakdown. thanks mike!

  • @hectorfthethird
    @hectorfthethird Год назад

    great stuff, i like it. keep them coming.

  • @Kystifyable
    @Kystifyable Год назад

    Great video, completely forgot it was a different host by the end. Well done.

  • @guillervz
    @guillervz 11 месяцев назад

    That's just fantastic coaching!

  • @kushboysmartee99
    @kushboysmartee99 Год назад

    This was great 👍🏾 Please make more like this

  • @kwamekehoe5992
    @kwamekehoe5992 Год назад

    Great job, Mike

  • @luffyskywalker7549
    @luffyskywalker7549 Год назад +3

    It's not just okc, the bucks are doing something similar with dame setting picks for giannis.

  • @impqct7150
    @impqct7150 Год назад

    this was really interesting, great insight mike!

  • @babyeric
    @babyeric Год назад

    Definitely a big fan of Mike's videos

    • @MDLR
      @MDLR Год назад +1

      My man!

  • @joshbone9600
    @joshbone9600 Год назад

    Great video! I'd love to see more of Mike

  • @AJHDC
    @AJHDC Год назад

    yeah these are good - keep em coming

  • @phomo561
    @phomo561 Год назад

    Great video - keep the content coming!!!

  • @markroze
    @markroze Год назад

    Great analysis! Thanks for the content 🏀

  • @lefteristassis7155
    @lefteristassis7155 Год назад

    This is brilliant guys, thank you so much, keep it up!!!

  • @partysover4324
    @partysover4324 Год назад

    Amazing video keep them coming please

  • @thehippieboy6927
    @thehippieboy6927 Год назад

    Yes Ben, we're interested. We'll watch anything this channel puts out 😂😂

  • @giacomorotondi2647
    @giacomorotondi2647 Год назад

    It’s very interesting to see the change between having a shooter spaced out from the very beginning of the possession and having him run out to the 3pt line from the paint. It seems like a small detail but it makes the back line think for that additional split second that makes all the difference. Also interesting that in none of the clips the defense triple switched.

  • @benrinehart7776
    @benrinehart7776 Год назад

    Great work as always!

  • @Eidenhoek
    @Eidenhoek Год назад

    It's cool how offenses are more and more making every defender on the court understand more broadly what the entire offensive action is. That is, you can't just guard your guy; you need to understand how their movement, and the offense's goal, is going to change where you are and what you need to do.

  • @joeyd219
    @joeyd219 Год назад

    More Mike please! This is excellent content.

  • @epicvicroyepic6725
    @epicvicroyepic6725 Год назад

    Very interested in as much thinking basketball content as possible

  • @TheoneandonlyRAH
    @TheoneandonlyRAH Год назад

    loved this. more please!

  • @alexboche1349
    @alexboche1349 Год назад

    Solid analysis!

  • @crowman279
    @crowman279 Год назад

    Super interesting analysis!

  • @jamalturay470
    @jamalturay470 Год назад

    Amazing video!!

  • @michaelbarnes2126
    @michaelbarnes2126 Год назад +19

    They got a lot of great young talent (Shai is a beast) but the real gem is their HC. He seems very smart and composed and cares about defense. His play design is next level too

  • @aqueelkadri8371
    @aqueelkadri8371 Год назад

    Loved this

  • @5nizza
    @5nizza Год назад

    Very cool. Thanks a lot

  • @t4d0W
    @t4d0W Год назад

    I feel this situation is unique for OKC because of their personnel. They got at least 3-4 different ball handlers and most of them have the ability to hit a jumper. I guess to make up for that lack of a de-facto guy who solves everything, having multiple ball handlers attack defensive matchups in different ways will be key for them especially in the regular season. Where regular season defenses aren't going to be crazy on pre-switching or communicating as was noted. So they will get so many easy mismatches of smaller guys defending the drop. Or bigs who have to second guess themselves often because their man is hanging at the corner.

  • @turanyaqublu7846
    @turanyaqublu7846 Год назад

    One of the plays Bucks have been running a lot in the last 2-3 years is Giannis handling the ball and Connaughton setting a screen at the free throw line to open up the lane/force a small guy to guard a Giannis with a full head of steam

  • @infixno13
    @infixno13 Год назад

    Great video!!!