QUICKLY Level A Floyd Rose Bridge
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Leveling a Floyd Rose bridge can be a pain, but if you use my method, it can cut down the time drastically.
0:00 - Intro
1:41 - Step 1: Set Level and Tune
3:42 - Step 2: Release Spring Tension
6:03 - Step 3: Fine Tuning 
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i've struggled with a floyd rose for years man. and this shit right here 🥺 it helped me so much. i got my guitar in tune immediately. you legit saved me $90-110 taking this jawn to guitar center. i really appreciate you for this video bro
Awesome man! 🤘🏼
Yeah man I been changing them one string at a time, snapping the high E a third of the time and then a few instances just dealt with the bridge having a lean on it.
I was to the point of thinking of asking the guy at the music shop if I could watch him do it lol.
I don't know why I didn't think to check RUclips.
@@ManBunMetalHead important question, shoudnt you do all this in the playing position? the position will change things and you'd end up out of tune again because all this is based on a guitar laying flat right? So if I do this, gotta have playing position or what am I missin?
@@WarlordImperiusthe bridge is being balanced by the springs countering the string tension. Changing the position of the guitar makes no difference, if it did, you would have to stand perfectly still to play and nobody would want a Floyd Rose on their guitar.
@@slashssnakepit4444 nahh man it definitely makes a difference I have a floyd I see it in realtime, even dragonforce guy lee herman demonstrates the effect clearly like sht changes a lil man, I dont know much about it but I know for sure it isnt just stable like that
Was having issues adjusting my King V. This video is an absolute 10/10, straight to the point and I had it sorted out within minutes! Many thanks, you are a legend!
dude this video of yours has helped me countless times and I cant thank you enough for making such a well detailed, easy to understand and "give exactly the info I need" video
gotta say this BRO GREAT VIDEO, in a world full of crazy edits , constant intro filler and bad jokes FINALLY a MAN who just gets down to business and delivers the goods, thank you for the straight forward no bullshit video
You got it!
Damn , I just want to tune my guitar
Dude I’m a year late but thank you so much for this video. I have a schecter that ive been playing on for a couple years and got familiar with its floyd, it never gave me tuning issues. I got a new ltd arrow 1000 and it came with 9-42s every time I would precision tune it would go flat. So I decided to just tackle it head on cause I couldn’t figure it out. Loosened all the tension and just went from tight springs loosening it how you explained in the video. Worked like a charm and I’m in tune now. I’ll have to do it all over again when my new strings come in but totally worth it. Thanks again. Subbed
Hey man your the best. I just bought my first guitar with a Floyd rose bridge and I couldn’t figure out why my guitar wouldn’t stay in tune. Thanks to your video I was able to set the bridge right after a couple minutes. You just saved me from taking it down to a music store and looking dumb in front of them. Thank you so much I’ll definitely start watching your channe
Thanks for the help, was able to get my Jackson in check!! Earned my sub👍👍
THANK YOUU, I was looking for a video like this that could explain cuz it looked uneven and now after 2 hours or trying its finally level
Got perfect level and perfect tuning thanks to you man!
Doesn’t seem too bad. I have avoided Floyd Rose guitars my whole life. Maybe it’s time I finally add one to my collection. Good video
Once u go “WEEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWWW” off a whammied harmonic ur gonna be like fuck yaaa
It ALWAYS looks easier than it is. I find Floyd's to be either amazballs or crap. You really want to find a GOOD quality bridge (doesn't necessarily have to be a Floyd Rose brand, but don't go cheap!). They can be a NIGHTMARE and end up blocked if they are cheap.
Sir i am having a nightmare or a time tuning my floyd rose
@@leviathan_is_me it’s easy. I have one and never had problems. Learn how to use ur damn instrument and stop giving it a bad name.
Mate I avoided them since I got an Ibanez with a Floyd when I was 14 like 15 year ago and no idea what I was doing with it and got rid. Now in the past 5 month, I’ve bought 5 guitars with Floyds. And that’s coming from someone who was terrified of them. Lol
Thanks for the tips. It worked. My Fernandes Revolver is set up just right.
I have a Harley Benton Strat with a floyd. Had it for a year not setup until I found this video. Pretty helpful cheers bro 👌🤘
Thank you! I picked up my guitar again after almost a decade and was like this needs new strings. I then realized you can't just slap strings on and go. This video was extremely helpful.
Right on man.. been lost on this for too long.. thank you.
thank you so much!!! I needed to know what to do as in fix the angle of the bridge, and I was trying to tune mine and I could never seem to get the bridge angled so that the back of it was down far enough. I was scrambling online looking to find some vids about this, and when you said to loosen the springs in the back a little bit, I thought I might try it! It worked within 2 minutes vs the 3 hours I spent trying to figure it out!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks for the info. I've got my old Ibanez from the attic where it's laid for 30 years! I've cleaned it up, put new Ernie Ball 9's on it and although it plays well the bridge is so high the trem bar hits the pickup selector arm! Now I know how to get it back in line. Thanks for that.😊
Wow, thank you, my floyd was at 45 degrees, this really helped me flatten it out!
Great video! Thanks.
Awesome vid brother, thank you!
thx man, i just bought my very first guitar,. and wonder it always out of tune, and you gave me the solution...
Couldn’t have come at a better time. I just received a jake bowen 7 string Ibanez and will be setting it up tonight
Thank you so much. I haven't played guitar in a long time. I changed to a heavier low-end gauge strings and could never get them in tune and the bridge would always be riding high. I watched a few videos and followed the to a T, but still couldn't get it done right. I had completely forgotten about the tension springs (and the vides never mentioned them). It still rides a smidge high, but I'm not nit picky. The strings are staying put and I'm happy now.
Very helpful. Thank you
Your the man thank you so much this is so helpful
That battery trick, oh man the video is
priceless for that tip alone... I've taped together 4 or 5 coins to wedge in there and all manner of unsuitable objects. Ok, I used an old AA but it's absolutely perfect for my Jackson without anything required and it slid in there and stayed there likea limpet.....,. thanks a million, genuinely :)
Was thinking the same thing because im over here using the back plate wrapped jn a string cleaning cloath shoved under the pole peaces of the alen key to stop the trem from going in the route out
I actually love you this was a 10 second fix
Thanks brother man🤙🏼
Awesome, thank you!
Good info with to the point directive.nice guitar.....
This is the greatest tutorial on RUclips for this! Thank you very much brother 🤙
Actually, if you have a full floater, there is one that's better (address truss rod adjustments and some other cool techniques and pointers. It's here in the line-up of offerings: Change string guage and setup your Floyd Rose like a pro?
I LOVE THEM! I float all of mine. Think of the Floyd Rose like a draw bridge. The strings hold the trem up...like a draw bridge. Each string holds roughly 1/6 of the tension. This is why if one string breaks, it's all out of tune.
Well they don't hold 1/6 considering each string is a different diameter and holds more or less tensile strength, but yes it's the right theory
Good video extremely helpful 👍
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much. Just subscribed
Dude thanks for putting to words what my mind was trying to describe. So my action is high with really strings , so it’ll be best to get those coils in the back tightened and then tune
Thank you!
This man single handedly saving this guitar from going out the window.
hey man love the video helped a lot when i first got my floyd rose and i recently added new saddles and a new locking nut from the floyd rose website for my specific guitar and my bridge seems to keep getting unleveled somehow and i keep going out of tune i’ve tried everything and replaced the strings and stretched them out too idk why man i just wanna play
Legit. It worked for me.
I've had this guitar for years. An Alvarez, I got from the pawn shop. Granted I am keeping it in dropped D for now.
An extra spring would help. Got that spring holder back-back. Perhaps why it was pawned off. Can tell those screws are not original.
Thanks for the info. Time to give this fixer upper some love.
Thanks for helping me unravel this mystery, lol
Thanks bro
If anybody has a wobbly whammy that swings around fast i found that cotton from a q-tip stuffed in the hole works perfectly.
Not what I was looking for as I am searching for why my springs are popping out easily from the 90 degree arms of the springs, NOT THE LOOPED SIDE. Anyway, I watched this whole video, and you did a fantastic job as a whole. Therefore, I liked, and subbed for you!
Thanks for posting a great video on this very VERY FRUSTRATING ordeal with a Floyd Rose Tremolo!!!!
If you're having them pop out of the bridge then you need to tighten the nuts that press into the strings more, I've had guitars that have bridges with rust and they lock up and it makes you think their in fine, give em a good turn, make sure theres a firm lock on the strings
The only comment I would ad, is to check and perform tuning in the playing position as opposed to the guitar lying on its’ back
You’re the first guy to actually know what the fuck their talking about great video man
Thanks! I don't get that a lot 🤣
I luv them
You need to mention decking your bridge from the back changed my life. Loosen the claw until the back of the bridge sits a little bit above the body and something to deck the tremolo in the back then tune to pitch and start tightening the claw until the tremolo blocker falls off and have your fine tuners at 50%
God I love the Locking tremolos. I sold every guitar I have without a one.
If know the fs guitar properly , don't need a different kind of guitar.
Even I'm a beginner in electric guitar.
It's easy to understand because you explained it great.
subscribed. do you too or not.
Have nice day.
thanks
Jammed mine with a block for almost 10 years...guess it's time to take it out and use it
Love them. Never understood the hate.
hey i got a question i was using 10-46 strings and just switched to 10-52s but i cant seem to keep the guitar in tune and the bridge level at the same time can you help please
What could be causing my floyd rose to be so stiff? It's not blocked in the back and taking a spring out (it has 4) didn't work. I am not able to do dive bombs because my whammy bar simply doesn't dive much. I don't know what the problem is.
Hey bro, killer videooo!! I would like to ask for some help jaja :c my guitar is a Jackson performer from 94, the screws on the back are all fooked and everytime I try to tune her it keeps getting loooooow and loooow, so even if I try to increase the springs tension it is still going low, thus, I have to keep increasing the pegboxtension and my bridge its almost 180 degrees jajaj ): In that case wtf can I do?? Should I purchase a new floyd?? Thanks a lot!
Hey my floyd rose sits in high and the springs are almost touching the wood what do i do?? restring the strings?? or see a guitar tech
What a true opening statement lol
So i just changed my string on my jem jr but there is no sound coming from open frets or fretted on all strings what do i do
I'm not sure whats going on with mine, the bridge was flush , played a bit last night and now the bridge in raised a bit. All the strings stayed in tune And are still tuned now?.
Hey man, my action is sitting a bit high after my first string change on an Ibanez RG350DX. My mate has said NOT to ever touch these two screws at the bridge but you are saying to do it. I am very confused!!!
great video, I just can't buy a guitar with a floating bridge tho. I would love 1 but I don't have the patience for this
What to do if i only need 5th and 4th strings to be higher..action wise...rest of strings have Nice action
Is the bridge supposed to be flush before you tune it ??
going thru floyd rose hell right now, why did i buy one of these again omg what an absolute nightmare
I always set a Floyd flush. I use it only for diving and not all that much. It works for stability.
I’m trying to restring my Floyd rose for the first time now. I’ve replaced the strings but when I try to tune it back up the bridge rises a lot. I thought this video would fix it but it’s still way too high even when I’ve screwed the screws the whole way. Do anyone have any suggestions to help me solve my problem???
Wow. Thank you for removing the stigma. So damn simple. Like many commenters here, I just fixed my crap in 15 minutes. More importantly it gave me confidence. Right now I feel like I could reset any strat Floyd. It’s pure physics. Your graphics are spot-on
5:28 So helpful this text
I have a question , my bridge is a little bit up do i just add tension then i tune ? Sorry it's my first guitar with a Floyd and im almost 3 weeks into the the journey
You sure could
Dude.... Fuck a Floyd Rose. My screw is a bitch to even tighten on the back. Really loving a stopbar and Nashville tailpiece right now.
MY EFFING DUDE
Just so i get this straight, if i want to go from standard tuning to a DGCFAD tuning, i will need to adjust the springs in the back every time? Because now when i tuned the guitar down just before i found this video my floyd rose went low and then got to the same normal position when i tuned it back to standard tuning. Im kinda new on the floyd rose. I have 3 springs in now but i have room for 2 more if thats the isssue so i dont have to screw every time i wanna change tuning?
If you want the bridge level, then yes, you'd need to adjust it if you changed tuning at all. That's the unfortunate part with floating trems. Taking out a spring could help, but it's unlikely it'd be perfect. Not to mention having less springs will change the way your trem reacts.
Something you might want to consider is some sort of trem locking device. One that either locks the trem in place or prevents it from going low. The second option would prevent you from pulling up on the trem bar, but you'd still be able to do dive bombs.
@@ManBunMetalHead ok thanks for help! Will try and fail my way forward :D
Mine had too much tension, I screwed to the left and the bridge got too high, I got it the way back till it’s limit but the bridge is still way too high
After wrestling with my floyd for an hour I’ve got it nearly level. It not quite flat but I don’t care anymore. If I do anything now I fear I’ll undo all my progress so I’m just leaving it.
So I’ve put thicker gauge strings on to tune to drop c. Can’t get the bridge flush with the body of the guitar (claw is already and far up as it can go and I can’t get it to go further) Does this mean I need springs with more tension/more springs? And also would I need to adjust the truss rod if I put springs on with more tension? Thankyou
Yes, it does sound like you'll want to add another spring or buy a set of stiffer springs. It sounds like there will be a good chance you'll have to adjust the truss rod as well.
Is it more optimal to have the springs in a (straight like yours)| | | pattern rather than the (V shapped) / | \ pattern?
Not really, I just prefer the look.
This video helped me out a lot for info. Now it's time to go doctor mode. Tired of local guitar Smith telling me it'll take 2+ weeks to get it fixed the way you demonstrated. Smh.
Question: I have a fully floating Floyd Rose 1000 (the guitar is a brand new Charvel) and it goes out of tune every time i bend on the 22nd fret. I have tried everything to solve my problem... the bridge is perfectly in level with the body, the string blocks are in perfect condition, there are no pieces of broken string in the saddle, everything is tightened on the bridge and on the locking nut. I have changed strings i think about a week ago, so the strings are new and properly set in the bridge. Have you ever had similar problems and what would you recommend me to do? And yes, the guitar stays in tune when i do divebombs, it only goes out of tune when i bend on the high e string above the 19th fret.
Sounds like an intonation issue. Check to make sure your open string tones match what you see when you strum on the 12th fret. If not matching, you have to move the saddle that holds the string. If 12th fret is sharper, move the saddle towards the bottom of the guitar. If the 12th fret is flatter, move the the saddle closer to the neck.
Thinking about your comment one more time, the bending action down low is actually pulling the bridge up. I don't think there's any way around that. It's just a drawback to the design you have to live with.
Officially attempted it, and officially messed it up. Gonna have to wait a few weeks for a trip to the local guitar shop now. I suck. 🤦🏻♂️
what if: the spring claws have been fully driven in and there is no available slot for additional spring, and the bridge is still sticking high... what can I do? I switched to slinky strings already but I still get the same problem
I would either add another spring or remove the springs you have and replace them with stiffer springs
Can I put (9s) super slinky’s on a Floyd rose special trem?
You sure can
I have a peavey nitro with a floyd rose and its difficult to tune (broke my high e string)
Nice vidéo man.. juste one question the bridge is leveled from front to Back... but is it leveled in the other way... from e string to tje other
the bridge might be level side to side but it's not that important. You'll adjust the bridge pins to set the string height, and there's a good chance the low E side will be a touch higher than the high E side. but you may not even notice it.
@@ManBunMetalHead good i drop my guit in 435... and the result is exactly what you Just said.. slightly lower on my high e string... so i get a Nice touch.... but both sides are leveled from front to back .... tanks for your time
When leveling a bridge do you then have to mess with the intonation? I have a floyd on my Jackson JS32 where the bridge is a bit high. I want to fix this but the intonation is good and I am afraid that if I level the bridge I have to intonate the guitar. Also if I have to intonate it again, is it difficult?
It depends on how much it's currently out of level, but there's a chance you would need to adjust the intonation. I do have a video on that if you decide to try it out, ruclips.net/video/gjVA0BKtqu8/видео.html. It's not that hard, just takes some patience. But really, the exact angle of your bridge doesn't matter that much as long as it doesn't affect the playability of the guitar. It just looks nicer when it's flat.
@@ManBunMetalHead Ok, I might look into it when changing strings. I play with the factory strings currently which might not be ideal. Plus the slightly high bridge doesn’t really affect my playing so I guess I might leave it as it is.
@@ManBunMetalHead Hey! I have one more question about my floyd. Is it possible for me to play at Eb tuning temporarily without messing everything up? I've actually tried tuning down a half step with the guitar once and it worked perfectly and because my bridge was a bit high at E standard it didn't really mess up my bridge all that much at Eb tuning. The intonation seemed to be perfect but I got afraid that my guitar would get all messed up so I tuned up again. So would it affect the guitar in the long run if I tuned down temporarily for some songs?
Yeah, don't worry about it. If you make drastic tuning changes you might notice the relief in the neck change, but it would probably take a lot and certainly wouldn't damage the guitar.
Hey I have a ibanez prestige and no matter how much i tighten the springs the floyd rose does not go level to the guitar. Is that normal? I thought it was worn out springs (its fairly new guitar) so i purchased new springs from floyd rose and same thing. I checked the brick and its tight. idk what to do.
You might want to look into adding another spring, or swapping the springs out with a stiffer set.
I have an ibanez rg with edge tremolo with very good tuning stability, just wish I could change strings without adjusting back springs
Pretty sure that is going to be the case with any Floyd Rose bridge. New strings introduce a variation of tension that will throw the bridge off balance.
Hey so I have a question for lower tunings should I remove a spring so the tremolo doesn’t sit so low?
I doubt you'd need to remove a spring. If you're dropping your tuning significantly, you'd probably want to change to a set of higher gauge strings anyway.
@@ManBunMetalHead Okay thanks 👍
What should I do when the screws don't move? I detuned all the strings and the bridge is now straight. But when I tune up the strings the bridge is extremely high
If the screws are turned all the way in, sounds like you might need to add another spring or 2. Or change to beefier springs.
@@ManBunMetalHead I had to do the same on my Jackson Js32q, i use Ernie ball skinny top heavy bottom(10-52) i was wondering does it help with tuning stability?
What is 'springs'?
Will putting a battery In there break anything over time?
I've been doing it for over 20 years and have never had a problem
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"Parallel" is not always work for certain guitar it is just a standard way to setup a guitar bridge .. Every guitar is different especially at neck angle some guitar maybe need a little tilt down or tilt up, for example steve vai and jeff beck both master in whammy bar playing they didn't set up their bridge parallel into the guitar body.
What do you do if the spring claw is all the way in but the bridge still raises when you tune up? I am only using gauge 10 strings so I am not sure what to do. Am I needing new springs maybe?
Sounds like you need stiffer springs or maybe add another spring if possible
Too late but: 2 springs on each side of the claw or 3 springs in angle
So why is it recommended to detune inbetween adjusting the spring tension that just sounds like it takes extra time considering how finicky Floyd's are to tune id rather not hurt a valuable guitar but also not spend 2 days leveling it every time I change tunings and thuse string gauges apon restringing
So in standard tuning my bridge is flat I tune down to d standard and it goes in the body what should I do
You'll have to let out spring tension
I've spent 3 weeks and the bastard string tension is impossible. Tried different guage strings tried rearranging the springs. Spring claw is all the way screwed in. I've rounded the screw off too 😭 I'm about to set it on fire.
I leveled my Floyd Rose bridge recently using a small level on my guitar's body on either side of the bridge, got it level on the floor, then placed the level on top of either side of the FR bridge with the strings tensioned and in standard tune. I made many spring/tuning adjustments, but to get the level on either side of the FR bridge to match what I saw on the guitar body, my spring screws are now kind of wonky. The bass side is screwed in more than the treble side. The angle of the spring plate is closer to 70° vs 90° - how bad is this and why? You mention keeping that plate straight and doing more or less equal turns for each screw. I'm using 3 springs - they are on the 3 inner hooks, one extends directly down to the center hole of the bridge/block, the outer springs attach to the outer holes of the bridge/block, leaving one hole empty between center and outer holes. The guitar seems to play ok but it and the FR system are new to me and I'm not sure how it should be.
I went ahead and redid this keeping the screws equal. It seems good, the 3 springs are now equally tensioned more or less (based on screw length), and the bridge is more or less level by eye - didn't use a level this time. I watched another video mentioning springs and his screws were more or less equal too (spring plate also at 90°) - so I figured this must be important. I'm not sure how I wound up so off balance.
Glad to hear you got it figured out. Using a level might be a little too precise for a guitar bridge.
Can you explain the rationale for blocking the bridge with the battery? I've adjusted a Floyd rose to go lower and higher and in each case I just loosened the strings, adjusted the spring tension, and retuned.
I typically do it so the strings don't fight with the springs when I'm first winding the tuners up.
Without a block you are trying to balance the tension of seven things all at once, six strings and the strings. Tuning one string changes tension on the spring which changes tension on the other strings. It's a difficult balancing act.
Blocking the bridge takes the springs out of the equation. You can tune all the strings without then effecting each other. Once you have them all tuned you have the correct tension on six of the items so you can remove the block and just have one tension left, the springs.
I’ve recently referbed my first guitar and put a new Floyd rose on it but strings are way too far from fret board do you think this is a problem with tension, bridge and springs or truss rod?
Probably need a Truss rod adjustment to change the action if nothing else is wrong
@@djgastraytv682 thanks.
Neck shims are your friend
@@jamesstewart1794 oh wow yeah that might actually work thanks.