HOW STRONG IS TRUE DAMAGE? | True Damage Explained with Calculations

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  • @iSUMMONYT
    @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

    Check the Flexispot Amazon store and get your setup!
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  • @ciofurinone4225
    @ciofurinone4225 Месяц назад +70

    To make it simple, true damage is basically a "vulnerability buff" but as aditional damage. We all know hot strong Jiaoqiu and Topaz 50% vulnerability are, but they have their restrictions.
    RMC 38%~62% restriction is just max energy, but it works on everything, such as break or DoT.
    RMC ihas one of the most interesting kits I've ever seen. I love how both RMC, HMC and Hunt march are all great and free.

    • @juan.argueta
      @juan.argueta Месяц назад +4

      @@BMesa1 his dmg vulnerability is mostly catered to ult damage, thats why hes glued to aqueron, and topaz for fua

    • @withgeez
      @withgeez Месяц назад +1

      So Yunli is better using RMC than Jiaoqio

    • @ciofurinone4225
      @ciofurinone4225 Месяц назад +6

      @@BMesa1 break and superbreak dmg formula does include vulnerability, in fact, there are quite a lot of sources such as Firefly and her LC, Boothill, Lingsha and her LC, Fugue's LC, Gallagher. If you want, you can use Jiaoqiu in break teams, he just isn't a very good option, because he needs a lot of EHR and speed, so he can hardly get enough break effect to contribute to the dmg.

    • @juan.argueta
      @juan.argueta Месяц назад

      @@withgeez actually yeah both feixiao and yunli pair well with jiaoqiu, however feixiao still prefer fua team and yunli infinite energy funneling with sunday and houhou

    • @withgeez
      @withgeez Месяц назад

      @@juan.argueta Yunli, Sunday, Huohou, and RMC will do a great job right. But doesn't Yunli lose so much damage when paired with Sunday than Sparkle or Robin?

  • @Mikaela_77
    @Mikaela_77 Месяц назад +45

    Who needs RMC and Aglaea when you've got GILGAMESH AND KEBIN

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +6

      I need them all lol

    • @DarkSeraph
      @DarkSeraph Месяц назад

      That's Kalpas not Gilgamesh

    • @santabakure6264
      @santabakure6264 Месяц назад

      Who’s kebin

    • @ForTheViolence
      @ForTheViolence Месяц назад +1

      You know dame well gilgamesh is probably going to be imaginary damage.

    • @DarkSeraph
      @DarkSeraph Месяц назад +1

      @ForTheViolence we'll see, this game is weird with elements

  • @florence5907
    @florence5907 Месяц назад +10

    Calling it now, Cyrene will be a rememberance support whose main gimmick will be True Damage.

    • @vanxxx3043
      @vanxxx3043 17 дней назад +1

      Technically, you are correct right now xD

  • @mattheusspoo
    @mattheusspoo Месяц назад +16

    I mean, RMC has other advantages that robin doesn't provide, on top of the damage.
    it action advances the carry too, I mean, robin action advances the whole team, but RMC advances the main carry more often
    and RMC is fully sp positive. not half sp positive like most supports like lingsha, ruan mei, fugue, that attacks twice and skill every 3 turns, you can solely exclusively never use RMC skill unless for some reason you let the summon die. I'd say RMC will be better for hypercarry teams, while robin will still be the queen for 2 or more high damage characters. Plus the biggest plus for RMC: it's completely free, everyone has a copy. Also, even if robin ends up being better than RMC for a close margin, you still have a 'second robin' for your other team. I'll just be sorry when those people saying "I won't pull fugue because i'll keep using HMC on my superbreak teams" realize their mistake when her banner ends lol.

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 Месяц назад +4

      theyre fully flexible with sp btw, they get more charge for mem when skilling and when youre running them with sunday, sp should be super abundant

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +5

      Yes! Its definitely not as straighforward as Sunday vs Bronya. There are instamces were you want RMC instead of Robin

  • @notNic227
    @notNic227 Месяц назад +24

    5:20 initiate 15 seconds of silence.

    • @OutlawViIe
      @OutlawViIe Месяц назад +1

      Lmao yeap, easily cut out in the editor in post though

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +10

      I asked in my discord and people though it was funny so I left it in

    • @Uyhn26
      @Uyhn26 Месяц назад

      😭 that was so random

    • @Crocodile939
      @Crocodile939 Месяц назад +1

      i thought my head set stop working

  • @Vanilla-Stinky-Heals
    @Vanilla-Stinky-Heals Месяц назад +19

    BACKGROUND IS GREAT

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Glad you like it! Thanks!

  • @vladys001
    @vladys001 Месяц назад +3

    yay! new background. I hope Acheron compensated the damage she dealt and you fixed your wall

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      Na Acheron doesnt give af 🤣🤣

  • @Wawawawawa750
    @Wawawawawa750 Месяц назад +2

    rmc sunday plus new set will be such so good man, you get 75% base crit rate and so much crit dmg buffs that some dps might legitimately start running atk chests bcs neither support buffs atk

  • @brasil3778
    @brasil3778 Месяц назад +8

    i much rather have an enemy with lower hp and high defense so that "true dmg" mechanic shines over the hp sponges we have now
    that is because dot set would be alot more valuable and would be making dotcheron, dot. ratio and regular dot more viable strategies

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Yeah hopefully they steer away from HP inflation to increase difficulty

  • @Wawawawawa750
    @Wawawawawa750 Месяц назад +2

    omg you had time to put up some christmas decor for the holiday despite the move dude, looks great

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      Had a bit of help but we got it done!

  • @usmansubhani7482
    @usmansubhani7482 Месяц назад +2

    Hoping for E1 Fugue with my 160 pulls and am so happy my summon team will be complete. Don’t really want any other summoner lately. I played Honkai Impact but only main character Expy temp me (Raiden Mei/Marshal Fu). Will save for the collab after this.

  • @W-H98
    @W-H98 Месяц назад +2

    About the background, I think it's simple and comfy, I like it.

  • @Carlisho
    @Carlisho Месяц назад +2

    That MH Iceborne Village song in the backround is hitting me in the feels so god damn hard bro. What an awesome game that was 😌

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Cant wait for wilds

    • @Carlisho
      @Carlisho Месяц назад

      @ same, didnt play the demo just to have the fresh experience at launch.

  • @BrisingerXIII
    @BrisingerXIII Месяц назад +2

    Goodbye dirty wall 😢 the background is lookin great tho!

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      lol yeah the dirty wall will forever live in our hearts

  • @sphong0610
    @sphong0610 Месяц назад +5

    Funny seeing a yt short of you saying Dr. Ratio is S teir in hsr next to this.

  • @ashuram1744
    @ashuram1744 Месяц назад +1

    I really enjoy your videos, thanks for your work.
    Whatever backgroud you have, it will be better than the previous one x)

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      i plan to keep changing it throughout the year!

  • @dylankim8593
    @dylankim8593 Месяц назад +1

    great explanation love the way you walk us through your calculations

  • @Simone-gr8kh
    @Simone-gr8kh Месяц назад +1

    Christmas is right around the corner in your new house! :) Thanks for the video!

  • @EnjoyGengar
    @EnjoyGengar Месяц назад +9

    Need maybe 1 or 2 posters more on background but for the rest looks solid.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      I have 2 Kobe jerseys but idk where They are right now lol but I will add more stuff to it for sure

    • @EnjoyGengar
      @EnjoyGengar Месяц назад

      @@iSUMMONYT You can even rotate stuff every comple of weeks just to be that guy. Who will be know for unique backgrounds every week ;).

    • @davidlyons6235
      @davidlyons6235 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@iSUMMONYT if you're a Laker's fan you probably hate the Nuggets right now.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +2

      @davidlyons6235 im more of a Kobe fan than a Laker fan. Im liking Dallas this year tho

    • @davidlyons6235
      @davidlyons6235 Месяц назад +1

      @@iSUMMONYT that makes sense. I'm not a basketball guy but I do like Nikola Jokic. I'm a football and hockey guy.

  • @ehabkaio
    @ehabkaio Месяц назад +4

    even if robin is better she's still needed for the follow-up team and it's better to have more options

  • @RaikamiX
    @RaikamiX Месяц назад +2

    5:20 what happened here? 😂
    Nice video though. Thanks for
    The clarifications

  • @ZeHoovy2595
    @ZeHoovy2595 Месяц назад +2

    True dmg is as true as the absense of a father figure in most of ZZZ players lifes😔

  • @Uyhn26
    @Uyhn26 Месяц назад

    5:20 the most random silence we all did not expect 😂

  • @namanchawla710
    @namanchawla710 Месяц назад +1

    My screen is so clean its definitely not the wall! Its my screen.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @coca1990cola1
    @coca1990cola1 28 дней назад

    For what I understand, it's only in SU that you can have True Dmg

  • @VioleGrace-fk4li
    @VioleGrace-fk4li Месяц назад

    Thank you the explanation was straightforward and easy to digest

  • @jaredtew3302
    @jaredtew3302 Месяц назад +8

    the real question is that is he strong enough to remove robin from an aglaea team?

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +2

      Robins buffs is more consistent so I wouldnt use RTB instead but its a good option

    • @sakuseihuoshen
      @sakuseihuoshen Месяц назад +1

      Strong enough to remove sustains on an Aglaea team:
      Aglaea, Sunday, Robin, and RMC(unlimited AA)

    • @matcharaisedtothefourthpower
      @matcharaisedtothefourthpower Месяц назад

      yes but proper speed tuning is required to maximise action value across all 3 units (sunday, htb, aglaea)

  • @zeya_ad9732
    @zeya_ad9732 Месяц назад +1

    The outfit is crazy, love it ❤

  • @Sskysnake
    @Sskysnake Месяц назад +1

    The tree looks nice!

  • @ashimsy
    @ashimsy Месяц назад +2

    Man explain the new relic system too like wishful resin something and new relic rolls reset thing too

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      Sure! i will look into that deeper and explain it! thanks for the suggestion!

  • @sammy1697
    @sammy1697 Месяц назад +1

    I like the BG, also facecam looks clearer imo

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Nice! Im glad this setup is being well received!

  • @Miketation
    @Miketation Месяц назад +1

    Cute christmas tree! Happy Holidays

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Merry Christmas! Hope you are having a great one!

  • @adityapawar2834
    @adityapawar2834 Месяц назад +2

    Forget HSR , ,I want to watch you teaching excel courses 😅

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Lol I need an excel course wym

  • @ryuk6795
    @ryuk6795 Месяц назад +1

    guess we will get fugue 2.0 in 3.8

  • @McDonaldCastorice
    @McDonaldCastorice Месяц назад +2

    I heard that true damage can ignore shields (a certain % of shields)

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      I have not tested this out with shields on enemies

  • @angelattee
    @angelattee Месяц назад +2

    Honest thoughts: New home new wall😂👍 Jk the new setup looks good, could use a couple posters or shelves imo. I wonder if they'll have further significant changes for RMC's kit, prolly not. I still concur that we should be able to play HMC and RMC separately lol

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      The new wall comment killed me 🤣🤣

  • @emmanuelmontoya5678
    @emmanuelmontoya5678 Месяц назад

    Love the jiggly and pikachu

  • @Nyx309
    @Nyx309 Месяц назад

    Can’t wait to pull Fugue so I can build RMC and max her traces as soon as possible (still sad we can’t have Mem follow her like Numby)

  • @Quizzer2016
    @Quizzer2016 Месяц назад +2

    Couldn't you also draw the comparison to Acheron's The Abyss trace?
    Most people understand how that works, I'd say
    So you could just say that instead of only showing a single number for damage (like Acheron), true damage breaks it into 2 numbers
    So, if you run Acheron Nihility-less but with RMC, and she could still somehow hit that 60% true damage threshold, it'd functionally be the same as maxing out here Abyss trace damage multipliers without RMC on the team
    Good explanation overall!
    Just wanted to pose a question, since we already have a buff (on a giga popular unit no less) that functions *very* similarly to True Damage

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      id have to calc this aswell but from the jump, Acheron traces still goes through the dmg formula. True DMG is taken after the damg formula. It may be the exact same, but I have not calced it this way yet so that would be a good way to explaion it as well in another gvideo

  • @georgebuii
    @georgebuii 15 дней назад +2

    I am a bit late on this, but is E2 sparkle and LC better than remembrance true dmg for Acheron? I only have E0 S0 sparkle atm, both at 165 speed and around 190-220 crit dmg. I might pull for her on rerun in 3.1

  • @davidlyons6235
    @davidlyons6235 Месяц назад +1

    Merry Christmas.

  • @dtsubera
    @dtsubera Месяц назад +1

    So its like a outro buffs in wuwa

  • @davidlyons6235
    @davidlyons6235 Месяц назад +2

    True damage seems pretty simple but leave it to video games to complicate it.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +2

      right! lol

    • @DartNguyen
      @DartNguyen 19 дней назад

      the most problem is where is the source of true dame. if it final dame it ok, if it first dame . lmao this break the whole game

  • @abitsaagane8433
    @abitsaagane8433 Месяц назад +1

    Im skipping Aglaea, I need Castorice

  • @vladys001
    @vladys001 Месяц назад +1

    how can you give a relief to your back by standing?.. Isn't it increasing pressure? I mean laying down or a correct chair can help with back position

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      Its more stretching and being able to shift my weight that gives me relief

  • @menarg1549
    @menarg1549 Месяц назад +1

    ... as strong as Robin?! holy shit
    and SP postitive and doing their own damage? crazy

    • @1987jjl
      @1987jjl Месяц назад

      Its power is a bit deceptive from what I understand.
      1. It does not apply to memosprites if you buff the summoner.
      2. You need a unit with over 200 energy to make good use of it.
      3. It lasts 3 turns before you have to refresh it. Refreshing it will require a team that generates a ton of energy.
      Currently the hyper-carry taking full advantage of this is probably Yunli since she's slow and she is run in a team that generates energy very quickly. Big Herta probably works, but she runs dual erudition, and the sub-dps will not get the true damage buff.

    • @RMX7777
      @RMX7777 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@1987jjl HMC is pretty much made for The Herta. There are many instances where HMC is preferred over Robin or Ruan Mei as of beta V2.

    • @Hndlse
      @Hndlse Месяц назад

      ​@@RMX7777Where

    • @menarg1549
      @menarg1549 Месяц назад +1

      @@RMX7777 RMC*

    • @menarg1549
      @menarg1549 Месяц назад

      @@1987jjl 1. correct
      2. wrong, it just gets stronger the more energy it has up to 240.
      3. RMC having high speed and lots or ER% will help this quite a lot
      Yes this will be best and Yunli and The Herta, possibly the best as Robin won't generate energy for Herta

  • @Zorander.
    @Zorander. Месяц назад +1

    Christmas Yaaaaay!
    Merry Christmas!

  • @dragonkus6934
    @dragonkus6934 Месяц назад +2

    Is Sunday E1 S1 better than Tingyu for IL E2 team ?
    IL E2, Sunday E1 S1, SPARKLE, Fu Xuan.
    Or Tingyu instead of Sunday I need your wisdom oh great one 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      Yes 100%

    • @dragonkus6934
      @dragonkus6934 Месяц назад

      @iSUMMONYT thank you!!!! 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

  • @shadowbeast8180
    @shadowbeast8180 Месяц назад +4

    Yo Summon how are you doing, I have a question, is RMC the only character that can trigger true damage

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      As of right now I think yes. Im unsure if Sim Uni has a blessing that enables it

    • @pinkinglily6447
      @pinkinglily6447 Месяц назад

      With the leaks we have for now only remembrance TB and madam herta (special technique effect in SU/DU) can deal true dmg

    • @shadowbeast8180
      @shadowbeast8180 Месяц назад +1

      @iSUMMONYT so basically it's HMC situation where he can trigger super break with his ult for other allies and the only one to do that

    • @DantoriusD
      @DantoriusD Месяц назад +1

      ​@@shadowbeast8180 which reaöly sucks if we dont get other Options. Not pulling for Fugue for my FF but also not having Robin so in the Future i cant run my Aglea and FF Team at the same Time.

    • @AenoTempest
      @AenoTempest 17 дней назад

      Tribbie will be True DMG sub-dsp

  • @EnjoyGengar
    @EnjoyGengar Месяц назад +3

    So true damage is aprox 70% damage does it work with multiplayers or its own damage that has no interaction with other multies.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад +1

      It works outside, separate and after other multipliers

  • @amethystabyss6782
    @amethystabyss6782 Месяц назад +1

    How do you think RMC would compare to Robin in a Feixiao team?
    Would it be worth it to pull Fugue and swap to RMC for Feixiao until Robin reruns?
    My current team: Feixiao, Topaz, Aventurine, Hunt March, all E0(except march) and no sig LC

    • @Quizzer2016
      @Quizzer2016 Месяц назад +1

      FRAT team? Robin clears, because everyone benefits from the buffs

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 Месяц назад

      you aould replace topaz and just run hypercarry feixiao tbh

    • @amethystabyss6782
      @amethystabyss6782 Месяц назад

      @@Quizzer2016 Yeah, right now i have E0 Feixiao, Topaz, and Aventurine, and Hunt March, and no signature LCs. If i do use RMC, id only be temporarily replacing march until i can get Robin on her next rerun

  • @SuckleV2
    @SuckleV2 Месяц назад

    Reminds me of the genesis damage from r1999

  • @cyrnogen
    @cyrnogen Месяц назад

    We reviving DOT on this one fellas
    (Cope)

  • @youness4247
    @youness4247 Месяц назад +2

    Can true dmg from RTB crit or not ?

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 Месяц назад +1

      its based fully on the dps buffed if the dps crits, the true dmg basically crits as well, if it doesnf, it does not

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      no, to the effects of it, it already critted by the time it makes it to the true dmg portion.

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      Exactly

  • @Thivesh_
    @Thivesh_ Месяц назад

    What if you place RMC as a support on e0s1 acheron and e2s1 Acheron

  • @Elfcon
    @Elfcon Месяц назад

    is it worth using RMC with Acheron?

    • @mabiasilveira2468
      @mabiasilveira2468 Месяц назад

      I think no because Acheron Ult can't deal true damage

    • @mabiasilveira2468
      @mabiasilveira2468 Месяц назад

      I think no because Acheron Ult can't deal true damage

    • @kingtoaster4862
      @kingtoaster4862 Месяц назад

      The other dude is wrong, it can but there’s an opportunity cost in that you could be running a lot of characters that synergize a lot better with her

    • @Elfcon
      @Elfcon Месяц назад

      @@kingtoaster4862
      Isn't RMC more safe if you run no Sustain?

    • @kingtoaster4862
      @kingtoaster4862 Месяц назад

      @ I mean, most people are gonna run a sustain

  • @Mr.Heller
    @Mr.Heller Месяц назад +3

    Can't wait for "Robin is dogs*it" memes, her fans would butthurt so much, gonna be fun.

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 Месяц назад

      watch every 0 cycle sustainless run use rmc robin sunday

    • @iSUMMONYT
      @iSUMMONYT  Месяц назад

      lol imma be front and center

  • @GibleCool
    @GibleCool Месяц назад +2

    First!

  • @DartNguyen
    @DartNguyen 19 дней назад

    28% true dame strong but it use final dame as source so that nothing better 28% buff