SHŌGUN Episode 9 REACTION!! 1x09 “Crimson Sky” | Breakdown & Review
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Continuing FX & Hulu's highly-acclaimed new adaptation of SHŌGUN with our First Time Reaction, Commentary, Breakdown, and Full Spoiler Review of Episode 9, “Crimson Sky" - as Mariko arrives in Osaka for the fight of her life, while Blackthorne and Yabushige scramble to save their own heads as their options dwindle...
John & Andrew dive into the epic drama starring Hiroyuki Sanada (John Wick Chapter 4, The Wolverine, Sunshine) as Yoshii Toranaga, Cosmo Jarvis (Peaky Blinders) as John Blackthorn, Anna Sawai (Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, F9) as Toda Mariko, Tadanobu Asano (Thor, Mortal Kombat) as Kashigi Yabushige, Takehiro Hira (Monarch, Gran Turismo) as Ishido Kazunari, and MORE! How does this adaptation live up to the original book, the 1980 miniseries (starring Richard Chamberlain), and the actual history? Let's find out!!
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Blackthorn offering to do what he did for Mariko brought me to tears. What he offered was not just as a man who loves a woman romantically, but as a man who loves and respects his friend. Rather than thinking with his Western ideals (which would have made him want to stop her), he acted upon her Japanese ideals of duty, honor, loyalty, and sacrifice. He loved her enough to step in and help her complete her mission when NO ONE else showed up to be her second.
He's also acting upon her Catholic beliefs (that suicide is a sin) which is wild for him
@@schmuck.on.wheels Protestants believe suicide is a sin too.
@@schmuck.on.wheelswell, as he said himself, it was more to give her peace of mind, so she wouldn't die thinking her soul was damned.
Exactly! It was such a brave, selfless thing for him to do.
@@SuzakuX Right, I'm not saying he's buying into it her beliefs, but he's respecting them and doing it for her
Yabushige one of the most despicable and lovable characters all in one. Really is a testament to the acting displayed by the gentleman playing him.
I know. I hated the character in the books and the other miniseries. But this version… the actor has such charisma that I am forced against my will to like his character.
@@Leonnie13 I’m excited to read the book for the first time after the series wraps up
I love the Starscream archetype
@@Tac0maAr0ma It’s a great read… but it has been a long time for me. I will reread too afterwards because I didn’t want to spoil the experience of the new version with too many comparisons.
@@Tac0maAr0ma I read the book for the first time about a year ago and was so happy when I read they were remaking the show. I rembered it a little bit as a young kid in the 80's. It's a great book and I think the show skipped so much in it. It could have been made over 2 seasons easily
Mariko calling herself Aketchi Mariko at the end was icing on the cake 😢.
The ultimage revenge of her father
No you guys!!! Yabishige let in the shinobi! He has picked Ishido in this episode! He was killing Toranaga’s men that were guarding Mariko and his wives and kid! He didn’t expect for blackthorn and his gun to be in the room!
it was a great placement for a love scene.
Yes!!! He's the villain here!!!
@@Skip-Kilat Fortunatelly Anjin-dono killed all the witnesses lol
It was planned from the very beginning. That she must die no matter how. She also realize it when she came to the door.
If Anna Sawai isn’t nominated for best actress at the Emmy’s and every single other tv awards show for this year, then NO ONE should be nominated!
The scene of Mariko about to commit Sepukku was one of the most intense scenes of tv I have ever seen. I was as exhausted and relieved as she was when she put down her tanto.
the AGONY of it, oh i was literally sick to my stomach
マリコが演じてる細川ガラシャは歴史に残っている本当の話です。
@@user-ir9hv7ls4o Well, yes. All the main characters in Shogun are based on real people.
What a rollercoaster she must have experienced in the last 6 months. From people saying she is a terrible actress in Monarch to being in the best show of the year and delivering an amazing performance! Shows how important writing is. The actor can only do as well as the character is written.
@@Quzga she was genuinely amazing in Monarch as well. Right from the first episode when it showed how she got PTSD from G Day I absolutely cared about her character.
You misinterpreted what Yabu did in this episode
Firstly he kills the captain of his own guard. Then he lets in the ninjas, the tapping him counting so that they could kill the sleeping guards first before the others went in. He only "warns them" after the gurds are dead. He then tries to lead Mariko to a place where she will be captured, but she goes to the room with the metal door
He is very much NOT Toranaga's man
I've always liked him as a likeable rogue but I look forward to his tongue being cut out before he is beheaded when his treachery is discovered
I believe Toranaga planed on him betraying him though...And he probably knew Mariko was gonna die too...
@@Otisdic Toranaga planned it, Mariko wanted to die and served her lord in this purpose. It was a glorious death for her. Now the lords are turned against Ishido and the Christians and Portuguese are also unsettled because they assassinated a christian.
He is since the very beginning, it all Toranaga plan all along, also in the real event in real life where his character is based on.
This episode was fantastic. I really hope the actors gain awards because they deserve it.
I’m pretty sure there was a good 30 minute stretch during this episode where I felt like I was unconscious with how paralyzed I was to the screen not moving up until Mariko gets saved from taking her life… and then they went and hit me with that ending.😭
Damn good storytelling.
Yeah, this is one of the best parts of the book and I think they did it fairly well. There are some major changes of course and the whole Ninja attack is far more interesting in the book. But overall it is the same story.
i read the books and knew what was going to happen yet my heart was felt it was going to burst with tension…
the scenes in this episode where my favorite scenes in the book and i really wanted it to be shown beautifully.
and it was perfect.
although i’m a little bummed they cut out Yabu saying, “it’s a poem, neh?” about that gateway fight scene. but i understand why.
I think by far the best moment of this episode, and one of my favourite moments of the whole series, is Blackthorne drawing that vertical line in the horizontally drawn stones. My interpretation of it is that he’s so tired and fed up of the order and reasoning of the Japanese society, so distressed and upset at his inability to impact anything in the greater scheme of things, all he can do is destroy the order and sanctity of a single perfect garden
i’ve been wondering about that.
your explanation works. thanks
I think it's also in reference to the first episode when he is talking to the captain general before the captain kills himself "you must draw you line pilot" something to that effect at least. Saying you must pick a moment to stand and have the conviction to see it through. For him in that moment he had to draw his line and meditate on it. The symbolism in the zen garden is one of standing as a disturbance in the complacency of the rituals and insinuations that both cultures are subject to but also after he decides to second Mariko he allows the moment and finds his place in being her support from the fear of everlasting damnation and to allow her to complete her duty to Toranaga.
the shinobi was there to kidnapp mariko, not kill her. if they kill her they just create more problems with the high families. And Mariko didn't technically kill herself she sacrificed her life for the lives inside Including Blackthorn. And yeah shinobi is basically the same word for ninja. Man this episode was so great
Ya Ochiba (and let's not kid ourselves at who set this up) wanted to find the middle road. They couldn't let her kill herself, they couldn't let her leave so they tried to kidnap her but they failed and now the noble families are going to be pissssssed and I can't wait to see Ochiba's face when she finds out Mariko is dead next episode.
@@ronweber1402 how many episodes are left in this series
@@user-ci5le3uk5l One.
@@user-ci5le3uk5l one
@@user-ci5le3uk5l next one is the final episode
If this show doesn’t win mad awards for costume design....
Also the Japanese they speak in this show is period-accurate, not modern japanese. The level of detail is insane.
...you will commit seppuku?
… you cannot live with the offense?
hmmm… mariko got it right. sunset is a good time…
The life of Akechi Tama(Hosokawa Gracia), the model for Mariko, were conveyed to Europe by the Jesuits and became widely known through printed materials (although quite embellished for missionary purposes). In 1698, the Jesuit opera about her was performed in Vienna. It seems that even Marie Antoinette, as a child, was impressed by the life of Gracia after seeing this opera. Both born into nobility yet tossed by the times, Gracia married Hosokawa Tadaoki at the age of 15, while Marie married Louis XVI at the age of 14. Both were subsequently swept up in major political upheavals, yet in adversity, they bravely protected their children, maintained their dignity, and, curiously, both also ended their lives at the age of 37.
48:53 Well said. Anna Sawais portrayal of Mariko is not only the best acting I have seen all year, it’s some of the best acting I have ever seen. Building on one of the most incredible, strong and complex characters ever put to paper, the show was able to elevate Mariko into new dimensions; The writers gave Mariko focus and stoicism, and Sawai gave her heart and raw, unbridled power. Not many people can believably play a one-man army able to topple an empire. What a lightning storm of a performance she gives in episode 9 and all throughout this series. I can’t think of anyone more deserving of an Emmy.
Yep, by far the best episode because of her acting. She was the Crimson Sky.
Buntaro is having a really bad week
bruh, i suspect that with his wife going to osaka, a part of him might have suspected that he may never see her again
As painful as it may be I disagree.
Her wife ended up being the person who single handedly won the war.
No greater honor especially for a woman.
@@user-lp9bz9wo7v I don’t know. That isn’t going to be the narrative the Torunaga is going to push. It’s going to be “she went there to peacefully retrieve my wife and was brutally murdered. (Also, the Anjin was there by her side and wasn’t able to protect her)”. See, much like his dad’s seppukku, it all kinda falls apart if it is revealed to be Torunaga’s plan. Her being a victim of Ishido’s aggression and treachery on the other hand? That’s gas on the fire for righteous vengeance, baby.
Like going to the office and having to commit seppuku right there...
Your wife expected you for dinner and got so furious your litttle seppuku prevented you to be on time... lol
Daddy's prickness definitely rubbed off on his teenage kid.
I love the way they use words like a double edged sword. Mariko praising her blood line and insulting Ishido's with same words..
Yes, i agree...hidden messages cutting them up..
@deonphil9066 "I am not a peasant" .... ouchhh
Her role was epic in this ep
For clarification, since you asked: Ninja (忍者, aka shinobi, meaning "those who act in stealth") were a type of warrior who specialized in unconventional warfare such as infiltration, sabotage and assassination during the age of the samurai.
I loved how the Father's relationship with Mariko came full circle. And How Blackthorne was ear shot when the Father's did theLords prayer in Latin . It brought me back to the scene they were both praying at the Sametime in different rooms.
I've been watching your reactions since Ep.1. I can tell your love for movies, films, or drama through your reactions. That's what I love about your channel! Ep. 9 struck me like everybody else and you. Couldn't speak for a while like you did... I really hope this show gets some awards. Their hard work deserves everything!
Toranaga has several sons, Nagakado was one of his youngest, which is why he was constantly trying to prove himself. He wanted to live upto being on par with the others.
Makes me think about how historical dramas often choose to reduce the family extension of important figures, so that every death feels more irreplacable and their consequences more poignant. I can buy that the other sons were already adults with their own responsibilities in different territories of the army, but I would have expected to see them at least once during an important meeting.
So the Shinobi attack was Ishido's plan which Yabushige took part too? He expected the hostage to come to the gate, but instead they went into that room. That's why he's also shaken that he thought he would die there.
Thats instant karma for him
Absolutely beautiful, brutal episode. I was gutted by the end.
Hosokawa Gracia's death poem
散りぬべき 時知りてこそ 世の中の 花も花なれ 人も人なれ
Flowers truly become flowers, and people truly become people, because they know when to fall
that's her death poem ... and the hidden meaning is to be your true self (real beauty) while realizing a death
in my opinion - Mariko sees through Ochiba, even if she acts differently, cruel, trickery, sarcastic
but Mariko has known her since childhood and she still is Lady Ruri who was once gentle and caring to each other in the past
that's a bit of advice from friend to friend as a reminder
Each episode has been fantastic but this one has been my favourite, mariko standing up was great to see, wasn't expecting to see her go like that, very emotionally impactfull
What a beautiful episode
I watched the ep during my lunch break today. By the time it was over, I told my manager I wasn't going to be able to work until I had some time to process.
What? You failed your aligeance to your liege lord!? Shameful display! lol
@@kansairobot2015 I did it to spare my colleagues my sniveling during our meeting.
At least, that's what I told myself.
😆
I was clutching my pearls the whole episode only to be caught off guard by the last 30 sec😢
Shinobi are ninjas. They came to kidnap Mariko.
Yeah, I think so. Especially when they spared the lives of the women.
You're right, lots of people are missing how they tried to carry her away rather than simply slit her throat. It was a kidnapping rather than assassination. I don't think a show has EVER had me on edge as much as this episode
But under who's orders is the question
@@rsuriyop EXACTLY! If it turns out it was actually toranagas rescue attempt her. death would be even more tragic.
@@kevthepoet Toranaga rescue attempt does not make sense. Yabu had a deal with Ishido in the beginning that is why he is letting ninjas in. Yabu has no idea what Toranaga is planning. Also the ninjas are killing Toranaga's men, all of the men inside their compound are Toranaga's men judging by the crest on their outfit.
Yabushige is going with whoever he thinks is going to win. Here, he turned his coat and joined Ishido, letting in the ninjas to kidnap Mariko because he didn't understand Toranaga's plan. He's wanted to go with Ishido since almost the beginning of the season. Toranaga and Nabukado bound Yabushige to them by making him involuntarily look deceptive to Ishido. Mariko dying like this totally rearranges the politics, probably forcing Ishido to release the hostages because he insists they aren't hostages and he just accidentally killed one. Ishido/Lady Ochiba just brought great dishonor to their cause and Toranaga looks like the patriot who was going to surrender but now has to bring a (bigger army) to march on Osaka to avenge her. So now, Yabushige will probably switch again since suddenly Toranaga looks like a winner. But Toranaga reads him like a book...
I think the only person who surprised Toranaga here was Blackthorne. I doubt he expected him to stick with Mariko as loyally as he did.
Most people miss it, the guy Yabushige daggered before letting the shinobi in were Toranagas man, you can tell by the crest on his vest or whatever that kimono vest is officially called
@@khaii13 wow i didn't even realise those were toranaga's men..this made it so much better
@@paulthiek358 tiny details bruv. I actually had to pause and take a closer look at the crest by on the guys vest that were on either side of the shoulder. Plus the colour of his outfit would be a Toranaga colour, too.
@@khaii13 I think that's why a number of reactors are misunderstanding what Yabushige did. I think the fact that each of the important Daimyos have their own chunks of the palace or their own palaces with their own guards was easy for people to not understand.
@@paulthiek358 alot of people missed that. All of the men inside the compound are Toranaga men. Ishido's men are guarding the outside area. In every lord's "house" in Osaka, they have their own men guarding the inside while Ishido's men guard the outside.
yeah this episode had me sobbing like a baby lol yall arent alone
Toranaga is the best ninja. Never saw him for a second in this episode.
we need to start calling Anna Sawai, Emmy Sawai. my GOD!
Blackthorne drawing the line in the sand and just contemplating… perfection. Broke me when he became her second. And then, he extends his hand and helps Mariko to her feet, and she cups her hand softly under his! I have no more tears to cry.
This episode was amazing
Yabishige is so good at playing both sides that not even the viewers notice it 🤣
Also, thank you for giving proper recognition to that scene between Ochiba and Mariko.
Sure there were more badass scenes, but that scene has a special place for me. They could have written that part so much differently, which was what I feared as soon as the messenger arrived to say the heir calls on Blackthorne, that I was so happy, but also sad, that the scene played out the way that it did.
This episode was on another level. It was such a gut punch, I was speechless at the end. But Yabu must die.
The actual model for Toda Mariko, played by Anna Sawai, was Hosokawa Galasha, but her bombing was, unsurprisingly, a true story! The cemetery of Hosokawa Galashwa was guarded by her son and still exists. It was Marie-Antoinette who was very fond of Galasha's dying poem and was fascinated by her way of life and way of death.
I think Anjin drew a line in the garden sand is bringing back to what Toranaga said to Mariko before they met first time: The barbarian who the fate brought to us could change the tide.
Sand on zen garden generally means water, river and the sea. Lines are waves or tide.
I believe the entire cast, and I do mean everyone should get an Emmy. The acting from poor fisherman to Shogun has been all be excellent and what ever is higher than excellent.
This is great story telling, since Hollywood has given up on new stories or even retelling an old stories in interesting ways. Shogun being an example of retelling an old storying in a new way, I will be making a deep dive into Japanese film.
Cast and crew deserve awards!
I've never seen two guys look more defeated than the two of you at the end of this episode. I watched this as a child and Mariko's death legit traumatized me. It felt like losing a family member. 😥
The actual pome by Gracia Hosokawa (Mariko) goes like this:
Only by knowing when to fall
Do flowers become flowers
And people become people
I just finished the episode. That was incredible and insane!!! That ending!?!?!?!? I am NOT ready for this show to end next week! 😭 This show is what TVs were made for because this show is just so good! 🙌🏽 👏🏽
I’ve read the book so I knew what was coming and the writers of the miniseries still almost convinced me that Blackthorne would have to kill her as her second and I still burst into tears at that ending. So many emotional, complex moments in this episode and all of the actors down to the extras are so good. Can hardly wait to watch your reaction to the last episode!
Yes, they have changed so much of his story that I thought the same thing. A truly gripping scene
Actually they lured us into thinking it might play out different by placing it in a different time in the story.
@@BobHerzog1962m m.
😊
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Agreed. I thought Mariko's death happened earlier in Clavell's story.
That said, when she started challenging Ishido... i knew what was coming... and yet it was still so powerfully played out it was still a gut punch when it happened.
This episode tore my heart out multiple times... I had to go back and watch cast interviews just to see the actress was alright... Silly of me, but I needed that aftercare.
Your reactions at the very explosive end of the episode were absolutely priceless!
Glad I wasn't the only one bawling my eyes out, I think I had this face 🥺 throughout that whole episode😭
Watching Fumi Nikaido (Ochiba no kata) in this is quite the experience if you see her other romcom roles on Netflix showing at the moment, just an actress with RANGE
And as much as we sense from the previous ep Mariko was going to die either way, the death still hits like we never expected it
It would be great if Mariko were still alive, but the historical facts are as follows.
Mitsunari Ishida (Ishido in SHOGUN), who was an enemy of Ieyasu(Toranaga in SHOGUN), tried to take Garasha Hosokawa (Mariko Toda in SHOGUN) hostage at Tamatsukuri's Hosokawa mansion in Osaka, but Garasha refused. The next day, Mitsunari went out to use his force and had his soldiers surround the mansion. When the vassals told Garasha everything, Garasha prayed a little, then gathered all the maids and ladies in the mansion and said, ``As my husband has commanded, I alone want to die,'' and led them outside. . Later, as suicide is prohibited in Christianity, the chief retainer, Hidekiyo Ogasawara (Shosai), intervened with Garasha and committed suicide by setting explosives in the mansion and setting it on fire so that no body would be left behind. Her death haiku was, ``Only when you know when it is time to scatter can flowers in this world become flowers and people become people.''
A few hours after her death, Father Niecchi Sordi Organtino visited the burnt remains of the Hosokawa mansion, picked up Garasha's bones, and buried them in the Christian cemetery in Sakai.
I sometimes wish I'd never read the book, so I could go through it like you guys are, it is amazing story telling
But even then, they played Mariko's Seppuku scene so well, that I genuinely thought Blackthirne might have to second her, rather than fight during the attack. They have nerfed Blackthorne's character so much, so it was good to see him actually do something other look confused
Hosokawa Gracia (*1563 - 25th of August 1600*)
Mariko-sama is based on this unparalleled historical woman.
And here is her last written words.
Her death poem:
散りぬべき 時知りてこそ
世の中の
花も花なれ 人も人なれ
Only by knowing when to fall
Do flowers become flowers
And people become people
Hosokawa Gracia walked the short road to perfection - short, but not easy. She died when she was only 37 years old.
In her life, she endured burdens no one should have to bear - treachery destroyed her family, her husband was mentally and physically abusive, and she spent years in hiding for fear of death. Yet she emerged from these pressures as a diamond. I compare her to a gem, first, because her birth name, Tama, can mean stone, gem, or pearl, but second because of all the different sides or faces that composed her being, sides offering us different perspectives from which to view her life. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but no matter which of Gracia’s faces we choose to analyze, that of a samurai, a proto-feminist, a wife, a mother, or a Christian, they are all beautiful.
こんにちは
私は日本人です。
あなたの考察に驚き、感嘆しました。細川ガラシャを知ってくれてありがとうございます。
hurts to see Mariko’s son was somewhat brainwashed. Their last moment was basically him telling her he’s ashamed of their history.
Is it being brainwashed when the position held is perfectly reasonable despite admittedly also despicable?
i would think it was a desperate move to change her mother's mind.
Buntaro's actions from this point will change his mind
that was kiyama talking through her son.
@@Skip-Kilat exactly
you both are my favorite reactors - love John and Andrew. That ending was devastating....
彼女が名誉ある死を遂げる事で、父親や息子も立派であると褒め称えられる
さすが明智の娘であった、素晴らしいと
マリコは皆んなは人質なんだと示す為にも名誉の為にも絶対に捕まえられる訳にはいかなかった
そして最後に爆発から皆んなを守る為に盾になった
この感覚は日本人でないと分からないのかもしれない
名誉は自分の為ではなく、愛する家族や仲間の為に得ようとする
Left speechless. My heart was so full and then shocked to a daze standstill of emotions. 💔 as always, my guys seeing you react is such a joy to my heart.
I read the book when it came out. As I recall the paperback was over 1200 pages. When I got to the end of this section I was shocked. I guess for those who have not read the book or seen the prior series this will be close to a ‘Red Wedding’ moment.
I'm reading the book but haven't reached this part yet. But I also figured she would die because of how Toranaga said in the last episode that Naga and Toda Hiromatsu have fulfilled their duties and now she needs to fulfill hers at Osaka. That was a huge death flag. But even then I was on the edge of my seat when she fought the samurai. Had accepted her death just as Blackthorn did. Was just as relieved when Ishido came. Got disgusted by Yabushige's disloyalty and equally shocked like everyone when the final moment came.
Gonna miss the blackThorn impression once this is over thanks for the ride gents
Maybe I totally misunderstood it, but didn't Yabushige let them in in the end, which for me was the Condition Ishido had for him to join him?!
Anna Sawai deserves all the awards in the world!
Watching you guys react to this, I was way more emotionally affected by the tension in this episode between all the characters. I was so focused on just watching I didn't let myself get as emotionally affected as I did by watching you guys react
I'm so glad they had blackthorne 2nd her, I felt this is what should have happened during that scene in the book.
Anna sawai definitely deserves all the praise and awards.
Yabushige is a mix of scoundrel, loudmouth, cowardly, brave and fun in this series... he is a very interesting comic relief, I really like his performance! Remembering that the actor Tadanobu Asano was Genghis Khan from 2007... a very good actor, and very scenographic and caricatured here in Shogun... Mariko's death affected my feelings a lot, we hoped that the ending would be safe for her, but she finally found the peace she needed and it wasn't by her own hands.
oh yes…. genghis khan! thank you for that 🙏
That’s how you write Strong Female character and not some Marry Sue bs
I'm not crying.. YOU'RE crying! Dammit Mariko! At least she finally found peace!
Like Troy Barnes once said, my emotions…MY EMOTIONS!
samurai with the 3-hit combo 😤😤😤
A two-kill streak too!
And the guy who took over, knowing he was about to die but still proudly said that "It would be my honor." Writers even gave him a name: Mirai. Legends, the whole lot of 'em.
New achievement unlocke... you have died from an arrow to the neck.
When Blackthorn steps up and offers to be Mariko's second he isn't just doing it for love even though that is there, he's doing it to save her immortal soul from eternal damnation as suicide is the one sin that can not ever be forgiven in any Christian dogma. Especially Catholicism. They won't even bury you in concentrated ground today as a suicide.
That is the same way Mariko died on the Original show.
Monarch Legacy of Monsters really underutilized Anna Sawai's acting, while in Shogun show here her acting is very impactful and great.
Best series of the year.
My first thought when I finished this episode was literally "oh boy the Reel Reject boys are in for a rollercoaster of sad"
Phenomenal episode. I'm glad Mariko and Blackthorne were able to have a sweet moment together before.
To be honest, it's a bit weird that the first thought you had is about a RUclips channel
RIP Mariko gone way too soon!
Really enjoying the series and coming here too, thanks for being awesome john and andrew and reel rejects. Hope john blackforn doesnt die in the final 😂😢
14:48 I know its just a simple turn, but the elegance of the turn, the elegance in which Anna Sawai portrays Mariko-sama, if she doesn’t get an emmy then i don’t know what you have to do to get one.
What was the BEST moment from Episode 9??
I'll wait till everyone has seen it. No spoilers.
You two actually believing that the shinobis were Toranaga's men was a great moment of cluelessness.
Oh no we knew they were Ishido’s men, I think I was confused how Yabushige was working with them. I don’t think John was confused at all
@@andrewgordon7662its a shame that these are the comments u seek out and respond to. 😢
This episode was so great and amazing! 👍
Welcome to the Crimson Herring!
Despite my criticism in previous episodes about how Mariko continued to handle her domestic affairs, especially after how the truth of as to why she was kept alive has laready been revealed; I do have all the respect in the world for Mariko, the Retainer. She fulfilled her duty and managed to say out loud what every Lord in Osaka was feeling but were too afraid to say. And she was committed to everything to the end.
(Minor Tangent: I am happy the gate scene was not a "girl-power mopping the floor with all those men" moment) Now all of Osaka's Lords are soured against Ishido; and Ochiba might have to put the engagement on hold in order to Mourn Mariko. Her mission is a success.
Speaking of which, its so heartwarming and heart breaking that scene between Mariko and Ochiba. I'm Happy Ruri-hime did not just outright hate Mariko for being her father's daughter; but their exchange was so heartbreaking as they both knew each other so well and what the other was doing and them pleading with each other to make the step to end the hostilities and saying their goodbyes like that... i think I'm sweating through my eyes.
And Blackthorne finally doing the right thing and deciding to Second Mariko, instead of just dismissing all of Japan's customs and cultures as BS , that was the best gift he could have ever given her.
Mariko chose where to meet her end and did not go to the gate where she would get captured as Yabushige intended, she made herself an example of the duplicity of Ishido, just as Ochiba warned the council.
Can anyone tell us more about the significance of the drummer who appeared to drum as a ode of honours on behalf of Mariko before sundown at 27:06
. was that to signify her as a samurai? - that felt almost like a protest but so right.
I need an explanation too. That part got me...
@@monsieurharold8832 my interpretation is that her Line and her honouring it and her actions brought so much honour to what was a powerful but disgraced line and many Samurai even though they are under a different lord had to recognise in protest. subtle but powerful moment that's overlooked.
At that time, people did not have clocks, so drums were used to signal the time.
Drums were beaten every two hours from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m., depending on the season.
It took me 15 mins to speak in the end!! I was too stunned to speak!! 😮
Great episode
John's words were mine: "I'm going to need a moment."
John and Andrew are wrecked...switches to...this word from our sponsors. 😂
No lie, everyone needed that break to pull themselves together.
Last week some people complaint about Hiromatsu´s seppuku and that it wasn´t on the book, but that was effective as Ned Stark´s death. There´s no plot armor and I dare say no one doubt Mariko would go through with hers...
Mariko why, why, why 💔😭
There is no peace without war
Ochiba落葉 is Nobunaga信長's niece
Mariko鞠子 is Akechi明智's daughter(princess)
buntaro文太郎 and mariko鞠子 fight and die for toranaga虎永
As a result, it helps everyone
mariko fulfilled his duties as an official in place of his father.
If you keep toranaga alive, there will be peace.
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Shogun!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊
I literally screamed at my TV when the credits rolled. I was so pissed 😅
At first I was kind of disappointed because I was expecting more action. But the show pulled me in so hard. I forgot all about that.
yep, that was me this morning... i actually lost it during both the Confession and the Almost Suicide.. but then this... omg..
Yabushige is the Littlefinger of this series
That ending was Insanity
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Anna Sawai immense and deserve every accolade and awards due. Having not read book or watched 80s series, gut wrenching to be relieved she was saved to have her die. But a truly honorable death instead. Amazing. Best show ever.
I'd like to think that she was gonna say "And by my death.... comes Crimson Sky!"
My poor heart can’t take this. First Gambit, now Mariko-sama….These shows know how to break your heart 💔💔💔❤️🩹😣😖🥺
LOL Shōgun Tuesdays & X-Men 97 Wednesdays in March/April 2024 sooooo emotional.
It’s insane how intense this show can be with little to no violence
Something like 40 people were butchered in this episode lol
I started freaking out the moment I realized we were getting ninja/shinboi!! Maaaann I was getting hype as fuck!
Yours was my reaction back in the 80s when I saw the first series. It was like...noooo.
The First Samurai to fight - Boss. He will be missed
I feel like you guys were a little confused over Yabushige. He straight up betrayed Toranaga and everyone else in this episode and let Ishido’s men in to kill everyone and kidnap Mariko. He took the deal and sided with Ishido.
The guy Yabushige killed was Toranaga’s samurai. Toranaga’s men all wear brown. Ishido’s men all wear grey. It’s the easiest way to telll the sides…
That’s the part that confused me was the guy Yasbushige killed. I thought he was Ishido’s henchman and thus I got confused from there. Thanks for clearing it up for me 🙏
@@andrewgordon7662 - The guy that was killed was the drummer guy from the scene at sunset before Mariko was going to commit seppuku.
This episode is modeled after the event where Hosokawa Gracia, the wife of Hosokawa Tadaoki, refused to become a hostage of Ishida Mitsunari and chose to commit suicide. Her decision prevented Ishida Mitsunari from taking hostages out of fear of backlash from other feudal lords.
Its universal how everyone makes the stupid face at the end of the episode. Mariko was an amazing character. sadface.