As per Definition of EWS, family assets are considered . But family does not include Grand parents & Uncle-Aunty. For EWS purpose Family includes Yourself, Father, mother, Spouse (if married) & siblings of age less than 18 yrs
Sir my father file ITR last year first time in life then what I fill in preceeding two years , I have OBC NCL certificate but in income certificate income and profession not match with ITR ,Is income certificate also needed to avail reservation. Plz reply
If your parents income is more than 8 lakh in 3 consecutive financial year I.e. 2021-22, 2022-23, 2023-2024 then u comes under creamy layer and treated as general. So select general category for this year and not required to upload any such certificate. Just educational and identity documents need to be uploaded
Sir, I have an OBC NCL Certificate dated 31/Dec/2024, but my parent's average income of three years exceeds ₹ 8 Lakh. Can I apply from a Non-Creamy Layer or not?
Q1). In the ITR Section, does a candidate need to upload the receipt or form of ITR? Q2). What years are required to be uploaded in the ITR section? Financial Year 2021-22 ; 2022-23 ; 2023-24 ; 2024-25 or Assessment Year 2021-22 ; 2022-23 ; 2023-24 ; 2024-25
ITR form as filed in IT department is required in which details of income are mentioned. Last three FYs ITR are required for Ex 2023-24, 2022-23, 2021-22
Sir in annexure..."land owned by father, mother and children put together " does it includes independent adult married brothers of mine as after the father's death...in khatauni name of everyone is written? Whom to consider in "agricultural land owned by father, mother and children put together"?
Those siblings who are above age of 18 their prop details are not required for the definition of family. If more than one names are existing in Khatouni then also you can upload but mention area which actually pertains to you / your parents.
Sir mein form bharte samay sc state wala cast certificate upload kar diya. Ab mera central lavle cast certificate ban gya hai kya modification ka samay ise upload kar sakta hu. Please🙏 help me. Sir padh nhi pa rha hu. Please ans me. Please reply. Mein bahut pareshan hu
Sir, i have online format digitaly signed by tahsildar 3year validity for outside state employment purposes.can i use it for upsc exam now.?? Plz reply in english
sir thanks sir i have difference in OBC NCL certificate and ITR although my father working in group D in municipal office (BMC). If this year i filled form from General so can i fill next year form in OBC NCL. Pls sir what should i do?
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS sir there is income difference in certificate (7.5lac) and ITR(9lac). Upsc said both need to upload. Due to fear of rejection or debarred. One more question sir Is in upsc interview or selection preference given to higher qualification I did bcom only.
@@ajayrathod3359 If your parents are in Govt Job, then Criteria of 8 lakh will not be applicable for OBC NCL. Agriculture income is also exempted from criteria So total income can be more than 8 lakh if ag income & salary income is also added in ITR.
1.My father is in Army , rank is subedar can i apply for obc ncl. 2. This time i am unable to make certificate of obc ncl, so i filled the otr by general can i change this category after this exam
Subedar post is equivalent to group C hence you are eligible for OBC NCL. In case you are not able to get OBC certificate this year then you can apply with general this year but you will not be able to change category in between of CSE 2025 from prelims stage to mains however next year in CSE 2026 you may change your category.
Can i fill up a general candidate this year and next year as OBC NCL.. I am OBC NCL candidate but due to time constraints n other family health issue i cant pursue for NCL certificate this time.. Please reply Sir as time is running out...
Whether Additional Tehsildar sign is ok for obc certificate? Should I put state issued certificate date obtained from website or central format printout tehsildar attested date? Whether 8 lakh ceiling limit test for income from other sources applicable in case both parents are govt employees but not group A nor direct appointment group B?
I am an OBC (NCL) candidate. I have not the certificate of last three financial year because I have not making certificate every year . Then what should we do in this type of situation to fill the form ??
my father and mother are in group c govt job and they have breached the 8 lakhs criteria? do i fall in creamy or non creamy layer?? if i fall in non CL THEN WHAT SHOULD I FILL IN FATHER'S SALARY N ITR DETAILS??
Sir agar itr file kr rhe h aur 3 years ka avg 4.8 aa rha h toh obc ncl lga skte h sir And sir ncl certificate lga skte h toh usme income from agricultural land and from other sources in column m kya fill kre
Yes You can get OBC NCL certificate which should have been issues after 1st April 2024. Then you can fill. Agriculture income can be filled under ag income head ( if any)
Sir, i have obc ncl certificate issued in 2025. But my father's itr is more than average of 8 lakhs of previous three years. Should i apply for onc ncl reservation or not?
If your father is in Govt service or farmer then criteria of 8 Lakh is not applicable hence you can apply with OBC NCL as you have certificate. But if your parents are working in private sector or self employed then criteria of 8 lakh will be applicable. If this is the case then you will not be eligible for NCL
Sir, what if one or both the parents are direct recruits in group b services after the age of 40 years...will the candidate get relaxation?...also I wish to know Do assistant professors come under group b services?
Sir, for obc ncl eligibility, it is mentioned if gross annual income for 3 consecutive financial year is above 8 lakhs.. then they come under creamy layer and treated as general. So if the income is less than 8 lakh in any 1 year and in rest 2 year above 8 lakh, would they consider as non creamy as the income is not above 8 lakh for 3 consecutive year? Please clarify.
Sir I come under OBC non cremelayer category but now I have not this certificate then , can I fill up the form from general and next year, if that certificate will be available then fill up accordingly to OBC non cremelayer certificate. That may be possible sir??
Good evening sir... please clarify my doubt regarding obc NCL certificate I am from UP and I have central format of obc NCL certificate in English along with mentioned central resolution number regarding my caste. So should I upload this in my application form or the one given in annexure III of instruction (3page)?
Hello sir i have a problm regarding upsc form filling My ews issuing authority is naib tehsilder (becoz in madhya pradesh naib tehsildar has the authority to issue ) then what should i opt designation of issuing authority ??
Good evening sir My father is no more, earlier he was in PSU @ executive post. But now he is no more, his demise happened in 2023 .My mother is a homemaker. Will I still need to fill the ITR? of my father. Kindly reply
Sir Ncbc clearly states that their should be income of 8 lakh or above for three consecutive years to be part of creamy layer ….but you told that average is taken of 3 years , sir I couldn’t find any document mentioning average of 3 years, pls help sir ?
Sir, I checked the OBC Annexure and it is very confusing. I belong to the OBC NCL category, my father is a cultivator, so we have never filed for any ITR, last year's form fillup didnot ask for any. Sir, it is okay if I choose the option 'did not file for ITR'? What should I do in this situation? Thank you sir.
You should not worry, In case your father/ mother is not filing ITR then you can opt for No ITR is filed. In this case income certificate & OBC -NCL certificate will serve the purpose. My best wishes
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIASwhat to be mentioned in income from salary , agriculture and other sources , if parents are self employed and donot have any agricultural land .
सर मेरे पिता रिटायर्ड हैं और उनकी नियुक्ति अनुकंपा/मृतक आश्रित के आधार पे हुई थी और सकल आया वार्षिक 5 लाख ना होने से उन्होंने कभी आई टी आर नहीं भरा है तो डिटेल में मैं क्या भरू ?
Sir i belong to OBC NCL category , in the form it's mentioned that " whether you have the documents for land holding " is it an issue if I mention it No , and if yes then what documents should i upload ?
Documents of land holding are Govt department ( Revanue dpt) issues Khasra which can be uploaded. Now a days in many states digital copy of kh document is available. Or Purchase document can be uploaded
Sir, my father's annual income is more than 5 lakhs and my mother's is 2 .5 lakhs.my father files itr of rs 5 lakhs.should i upload itr doc with obc ncl?please reply sir I'm confused
If your parents are working in private sector & total income of your mother+ father is less than 8 lakh ( average of last 3 years) then you are eligible for OBC NCL If your parents are working in Govt sector then income limit of 8 lakh is not applicable.
Sir my mother is a single parent and is employed in Coal India (PSU) at group D post I also managed to get the OBC NCL certificate. Does Dopt consider my candidature or will discard me??
Sir My mother got promoted to bank assistant manager(central bank ) at 41 year of age from bank clerk But from last three year financial income is more than 8 lakh Am I eligible for obc ncl ? Sir please reply
If your parent(s) are in Govt bank then In my opinion you are eligible for OBC NCL even if annual income is more than 8 lakh. Kindly apply for OBC NCL certificate once you get from Govt authority you can apply with OBC NCL
Thank you sir Sir My parents are not separated legally but they r not together I have all the documents from my mother domicile and also the obc certificate from mother do icile .and my parents are from two different states. Am I still eligible for obc
Sir, my father is a central govt employee with appx 10lpa according to previous itr file but comes under group B class after 40 yrs of age, while my mother is a homemaker. Will i be included in non creamy layer of obc ? Please reply
Yes you are applicable for OBC NCL if your father is in Group B but mother is unemployed or Group C. Salary income can be more than 8 lakh, there is no problem
Sir my father is branch manager in LIC but he is promotee and was recruited as computer technician therein....will i be still eligible for obc ncl ... considering LIC as a PSU??? And also the income exceeds 8 lakh annually
If your father was promoted to PSU manger level after 40 years of his service then you should fall in OBC NCL & criteria of 8 lakh income will not be valid. I suggest you to check the status of promotion & apply for OBC NCL certificate with Govt authority, if they issue the OBC-NCL certificate then you can apply with NCL otherwise you can apply with Gen.
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS Good afternoon sir, ST category ke aspirant ko central caste certificate lagana compulsory hai? Ya fir sirf state caste certificate se kaam ho jayega? Thanks
Sir, I have OBC NCL certificate issued in 2025. My father is in PSU Non-mangerial post, but his average income of last 3 years is more than 8 lac. Should i apply for OBC NCL reservation or not ?
Sir at the time of application for exam i was OBC NCL but when interview call was made 11 months later i am now OBC CL, then would i be treated as general or obc ?
Sir , I'm OBC NCL candidate , But income on income certificate for financial year 2021-22 and 2022-23 are different from ITR amount respectively , but Both income are below 8 Lakh , Should i apply as in Ncl or not , Does Upsc check Income certificate during verification ?
Respected Sir, I come under OBC NCL, my parents have filed ITR is it required to submit asset documents? Sir it’s my kind request to you to solve my query fast.
For OBC-NCL candidates, it is mandatory to fill OBC Annexure in that you have to upload ITR of last three years and related documents. Kindly read the OBC Annexure guidelines
If your certificate is issued after 1 st April 2024 then it is valid but certificate should be issued on the bases of last 3 FY income. If your parents are farmer or govt employee then you will be out of income criteria of 8 lakh hence no issue of having 1 FY. If your parents are working in Private sector then 3 FYs based certificate is mandatory
@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS my father is working for central govt & group c service man or maine 1 april ke baad banaya hai 2023 -2024 ke financial year ke liye last 3 year ka ni hai so mai use submit kr sakta hu kya bcoz 11 feb tk hi hai wo issue waise v ni ho payega short period me
Sir i got central level Nmms scholarship at class 8th is it ok to write in achievement scholarship section?? Or avoid as it in 8th class I got prize in school level science exhibition for 'hydroponics soilless agriculture ' prototype is it wirth mentioning?? And got 2nd price in district level maximum LED lighting with wind energy competition Dear sir above all which should be mentioned in achievement section?? Above details are appropriate?? Or should avoid as school level or district level or there is no worry.. please help which to add or add three or not to adf anything...?? Your suggestions please
You can mention achievements of college and school level. If you mention School level achievement then you need not mention the class 8th, instead you can just mention at School level. If college level and recent achievements are enough to mention then School level achievements can be avoided.
Sir in my case my mother is a divorcee and she has my custody orders also but i have no information regarding my father's date of birth, pan card, employment etc. I am an OBC category candidate and i have OBC certificate that i have made on my basis. Now i am facing difficulty in filling parental information and OBC annexure
You need not to worry You may mention NA ( Not Available ) for document of your father & Income as 0000 Or Talk to UPSC facility counter for more clarification.
Sir my father's profession is agriculture and had made certificate based on FY 2023-24 so unable to get this whether it should also be based on FY 21-24 or FY 23-24 will suffice. As no ITR have been filed by my father so far. Please reply on this. Secondly our Circle Officer has got transferred and the printable file for the OBC annexure issued by DoPT can be signed by the new officer and not online as huge bulk of certificates are pending and digital sign is awaiting for the office bearer. So will the cerificate stand valid which DoPT has provided?
If your existing OBC-NCL certificate was issued after 1st April 2024 then it is valid but if it was issued before 1st April 2024 then you should get new one. Digital sign is not mandatory , you can get physical signed and stamped from competent officer.
Sir..mere papa state government mai teacher the. Jinki income 8 lakh se jada tha but 2024 mai unka retirement hua hai to mera obc - ncl certificate banega ya nhi ..plz bataye sir as a kindly request
Average income of three years should be less than 8 lakhs for Private sector working parents. For Govt sector working parents limit of 8lakh is not applicable because CL is defined on the bases of class of service.
Sir My father is a teacher in a State Government Aided High School in Odisha and salary is 75000 per month which was increased in 2024 .. previously around 60-65k. Mother is homemaker. Am I fall in NCL category ? Plz kindly reply
Sir that is the migration issue. My father originally belong to uttar pradesh but we live in Maharashtra from past 15 years. And i completed my school or graduation in Maharashtra so which stata obc certificate I need to summit. Please reply.
Sir obc ncl se belong karta hoon,,,,pita ji farmer hain,,income ka koi aur source nahin hai to kya pita ji ka income certificate aniwarya hai,,,please sir batayen
इनकम सर्टिफिकेट या ITR में से एक डिक्यूमेंट जरूरत पड़ती है। यदि आपके ओबीसी -NCL सेरिफ़िकेट में यह लिखा है कि आपके परिवार के आय का खेती के अलावा और कोई श्रोत नहीं है तो संभवता इनकम सर्टिफिकेट की जरूरत ना पड़े । लेकिन मैं आपको suggest करूँगा कि आप इनकम सर्टिफिकेट बनवा लें ।
hello sir 🙏 Sir mai obc student hu sir mere papa k 2name h mere marksheet & unki job me alg alg h aur jo income certificate mere name se bna h usme bhi mere marksheet based h aur income agri based bni sir..puchhna ye h that papa k job ki detail de y na de & income certificate job based lgaye y agri based...plz sir reply🙏
Jo marksheet me papa ka nam hai wo use kro…aur agricultural income count nahi hota hai. Sirf job ka income count hoga agar wo itr file karte hai to income uske according check kr lo.. income bs 8 lakh se km hona chahiye
Sir, Income on ITR differs from income on INCOME CERTIFICATE issued by Tehsil office. I also have Central OBC NCL (issued by SDO office) based on this INCOME CERTIFICATE. In one of 3 years ITR crosses 8 Lakhs but not on INCOME CERTIFICATE. What should i do? Kindly reply soon sir. I’m in very confusing state.
If your father/ mother are in Govt sector then 8Lakh criteria will not be applicable. Secondly Average income of last 3 FYs should be less than 8 Lakh if your parents are in private sector. In one year income is more than 8L but in other 2 yrs income is less than 8 lakh and average of three yrs is also less then there is no problem. Since you have got OBC NCL then can apply with OBC NCL. You can upload income certificate.
Sir can i change my status from creamy to non creamy layer . I have mistakenly choosen creamy layer ,i have non creamy layer certificate. I have filled the form
hello sir, My father is retired FROM RBI as a clerk and gets pension around 4.5 lakh. He has some FDs from which interest amounting to 3 lakh is shown in ITR filing. Hence, overall father's income is now 7.5 lakh. similarly my mother's ITR is also filed with some FD interest amounting to 4.5 lakh. Adding both it comes to be 12 lakh. Am i eligibe for OBC NCL certificate? KINDLY REPLY. I AM UNABLE TO GET IT.
Yes you are eligible because Your father was a govt servant and he was in class C therefore salary income will not be accounted. Pension income is a salary income therefore it will not add to income for the criteria of 8 lakh. In my opinion you belong to OBC-NCL. If you have NCL certificate then you should apply with OBC-NCL
In my opinion You will fall in OBC NCL as Asst prof may be in group B or Group C Pls check the Pay scale of your father and match with Pay scale of central Govt Group B and Group C employees
Sir, if 1500 sq feet land in name of father and if he divides it equally between his 2 sons (both above 18 years) so both will be eligible for EWS separately ? (All other EWS conditions are met)
If 1500 Sq feet land is out side municipal boundary of city then there is no problem as limit is 1800 Sq fit but if it is within municipal limit then it exceeds EWS criteria. If land is already divided and transferred in name of both sons as you say and as per govt record land is registered in son’s name with age more than 18 years then the problem will be solved and EWS criteria is fulfilled
Sir my father recruited as clerk(group c ) in punjab national bank and became officer at 53years of age and retired as officer... Now he is deceased and my mother recieves family pension.. Am i eligible for obc ncl???
Sir, my father is a government teacher and his salary is more than 8 lakhs , my obc ncl certificate has been made from agricultural source and it is signed by sdm . Am i eligible for obc ncl??
Hello sir I belong to the OBC Creamy layer should I fill the form with general category or OBC CL category and if From OBC CL category then what will be the format of OBC certificate. Thankyou
Sir, What about family pension? My father was a govt. employee(became class 2 after 45 years of age), and my mother gets family pension on his behalf. Moreover, my mother is in Sarva Siksha Abhiyan (not a regular govt. employee). She hasn't filed ITR in the last 3-4 years. Do I come in OBC-NCL? It is very confusing. Can you please help me? Famliy Pension- 8.2 lakh approx (3 year avg) Interest Income- 1.15 lakh approx( 3 year avg) Mother's Salary- 5.3 lakh approx (3 year avg) Rental Income- 0.84 lakh
Thank you sir.... One of best clarification on the obc ncl criteria 😊
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Well explained 🤗thnk u B singh sir
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@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS sir ji bank ke peon and clerk kiske equivalent hai confusion ho rha hai kya aap kuch bta skte hai
Thank you Soo much sir..
Every doubts cleared in an single video..
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One of best video thank you sir ❤
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As per Definition of EWS, family assets are considered .
But family does not include Grand parents & Uncle-Aunty.
For EWS purpose Family includes
Yourself, Father, mother, Spouse (if married) & siblings of age less than 18 yrs
Sir my father file ITR last year first time in life then what I fill in preceeding two years , I have OBC NCL certificate but in income certificate income and profession not match with ITR ,Is income certificate also needed to avail reservation. Plz reply
Same problem am also facing
Sir, I'm from OBC CREAMY LAYER. Which certificate do I require to attach asked only this time in the application form?
Obc creamy don't get any reservation
no certificate required
CL are treated as Gen
You need only DOB & Degree certificate
bhi general hi bhar de😂
If your parents income is more than 8 lakh in 3 consecutive financial year I.e. 2021-22, 2022-23, 2023-2024 then u comes under creamy layer and treated as general. So select general category for this year and not required to upload any such certificate. Just educational and identity documents need to be uploaded
Sir, I have an OBC NCL Certificate dated 31/Dec/2024, but my parent's average income of three years exceeds ₹ 8 Lakh. Can I apply from a Non-Creamy Layer or not?
Sir ews m JRF Fellowship bhi count hoti h kya
sir statutory land celling limit of land wala option samjh mai nhi aa rha hai
Q1). In the ITR Section, does a candidate need to upload the receipt or form of ITR?
Q2). What years are required to be uploaded in the ITR section?
Financial Year 2021-22 ; 2022-23 ; 2023-24 ; 2024-25
or
Assessment Year 2021-22 ; 2022-23 ; 2023-24 ; 2024-25
ITR form as filed in IT department is required in which details of income are mentioned.
Last three FYs ITR are required for Ex
2023-24, 2022-23, 2021-22
Hello sir obc annexure is for non Creamy layer student? Or creamy layer also
NCL
Sir in annexure..."land owned by father, mother and children put together " does it includes independent adult married brothers of mine as after the father's death...in khatauni name of everyone is written? Whom to consider in "agricultural land owned by father, mother and children put together"?
Those siblings who are above age of 18 their prop details are not required for the definition of family.
If more than one names are existing in Khatouni then also you can upload but mention area which actually pertains to you / your parents.
Sir ceiling limit me kya likhe aur ye kahan milega ,please@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS
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Sir mein form bharte samay sc state wala cast certificate upload kar diya. Ab mera central lavle cast certificate ban gya hai kya modification ka samay ise upload kar sakta hu. Please🙏 help me. Sir padh nhi pa rha hu. Please ans me. Please reply. Mein bahut pareshan hu
You can try during Correction Window, but I doubt they will give permission to upload new document.
Still you should try
Sir
With regard to NCL category , how total wealth is to be calculated, which is required in the application.
Wealth is nothing but sum of property assets & savings
Wealth tax is now not applicable
Sir, i have online format digitaly signed by tahsildar 3year validity for outside state employment purposes.can i use it for upsc exam now.?? Plz reply in english
The document of OBC-NCL should be issued after 1st April 2024 then it is valid.
If it was issued before 1st April 2024 then it will not be valid.
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS Sir, Is obc ncl certificate is enough to upload or any other format to attach with that certificate sir please reply sir
Sir, what is the wealth tax limit?...if we exceeds the limit does it effects the obc
sir thanks
sir i have difference in OBC NCL certificate and ITR although my father working in group D in municipal office (BMC). If this year i filled form from General so can i fill next year form in OBC NCL. Pls sir what should i do?
Yes you can change the category next year but why are you filling this year with gen, better to take advantage of your category reservation.
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS sir there is income difference in certificate (7.5lac) and ITR(9lac). Upsc said both need to upload. Due to fear of rejection or debarred.
One more question sir
Is in upsc interview or selection preference given to higher qualification I did bcom only.
no as such, There is no preference to higher qualification.
Every thing depends on your Exam & interview performance.
@@ajayrathod3359
If your parents are in Govt Job, then Criteria of 8 lakh will not be applicable for OBC NCL.
Agriculture income is also exempted from criteria
So total income can be more than 8 lakh if ag income & salary income is also added in ITR.
@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS ok thanks sir
1.My father is in Army , rank is subedar can i apply for obc ncl.
2. This time i am unable to make certificate of obc ncl, so i filled the otr by general can i change this category after this exam
Subedar post is equivalent to group C hence you are eligible for OBC NCL.
In case you are not able to get OBC certificate this year then you can apply with general this year but you will not be able to change category in between of CSE 2025 from prelims stage to mains however next year in CSE 2026 you may change your category.
Can i fill up a general candidate this year and next year as OBC NCL.. I am OBC NCL candidate but due to time constraints n other family health issue i cant pursue for NCL certificate this time.. Please reply Sir as time is running out...
Yes you can,
Category can be changed next year exam
Sir obc cl ko cadre allocation ke time benefits h kya
CL is treated as General hence no benefit of Reservation
Sir property ka criteria kya haiii plzzz tell kya property add hoti hai kya obc ncl ke liye
No
Property/ asset is not the criteria for OBC.
Caste and Income is the criteria
Whether Additional Tehsildar sign is ok for obc certificate? Should I put state issued certificate date obtained from website or central format printout tehsildar attested date? Whether 8 lakh ceiling limit test for income from other sources applicable in case both parents are govt employees but not group A nor direct appointment group B?
Sir I have OBC NCL certificate of 2022 can I apply based on that certificate or I need to get 2023 and 2024 NCL certificates
Please reply 🙏
Old certificate of 2022 will not be valid, you should get new certificate based on previous 3 FYs which should be issued after 1st April 2024
Thank you sir for the video
I am an OBC (NCL) candidate. I have not the certificate of last three financial year because I have not making certificate every year . Then what should we do in this type of situation to fill the form ??
my father and mother are in group c govt job and they have breached the 8 lakhs criteria? do i fall in creamy or non creamy layer?? if i fall in non CL THEN WHAT SHOULD I FILL IN FATHER'S SALARY N ITR DETAILS??
Sir agar itr file kr rhe h aur 3 years ka avg 4.8 aa rha h toh obc ncl lga skte h sir
And sir ncl certificate lga skte h toh usme income from agricultural land and from other sources in column m kya fill kre
Yes
You can get OBC NCL certificate which should have been issues after 1st April 2024.
Then you can fill.
Agriculture income can be filled under ag income head ( if any)
Sir, i have obc ncl certificate issued in 2025. But my father's itr is more than average of 8 lakhs of previous three years. Should i apply for onc ncl reservation or not?
If your father is in Govt service or farmer then criteria of 8 Lakh is not applicable hence you can apply with OBC NCL as you have certificate.
But if your parents are working in private sector or self employed then criteria of 8 lakh will be applicable. If this is the case then you will not be eligible for NCL
Sir, what if one or both the parents are direct recruits in group b services after the age of 40 years...will the candidate get relaxation?...also I wish to know Do assistant professors come under group b services?
Sir I have obc ncl certificate of 2025 but ITR avg of three years is more than 8 lakhs...will i be eligible for obc ncl as ITR is more than 8 lakh
Sir, for obc ncl eligibility, it is mentioned if gross annual income for 3 consecutive financial year is above 8 lakhs.. then they come under creamy layer and treated as general. So if the income is less than 8 lakh in any 1 year and in rest 2 year above 8 lakh, would they consider as non creamy as the income is not above 8 lakh for 3 consecutive year? Please clarify.
Sir after filing details of obc annexure when we submit its showing error of obc annexure what to do for that please help me 😢😢
Get it cross checked from some friends and senior, there may be some error / incomplete information.
Or contact to UPSC facilitation counter
Sir I come under OBC non cremelayer category but now I have not this certificate then , can I fill up the form from general and next year, if that certificate will be available then fill up accordingly to OBC non cremelayer certificate. That may be possible sir??
Yes
In my opinion Next year You can change the category
Good evening sir... please clarify my doubt regarding obc NCL certificate
I am from UP and I have central format of obc NCL certificate in English along with mentioned central resolution number regarding my caste.
So should I upload this in my application form or the one given in annexure III of instruction (3page)?
Upload the one u have
You have to upload certificate issued by Govt dpt.
Hi sir… agricultural land holding is also a criteria in obc… can u give details on that ?
No
Ag income is not accounted in OBC moreover Asset is not the criteria for OBC
What is serial number of central list of OBC ?
Hello sir i have a problm regarding upsc form filling
My ews issuing authority is naib tehsilder (becoz in madhya pradesh naib tehsildar has the authority to issue ) then what should i opt designation of issuing authority ??
Sir what is the criteria for retired goverment employees? Retired from group C
Good evening sir
My father is no more, earlier he was in PSU @ executive post. But now he is no more, his demise happened in 2023 .My mother is a homemaker. Will I still need to fill the ITR? of my father.
Kindly reply
Obc creamy layer vale genral category se fill kr skte h ky
Sir if father is retired from government job then 8 lack rule applys or not? Since i got NCL certificate after their retirement not before.
Sir agar father mother group c service me ho aur income 8 lakh plus ho kya OBC NCL me aayenge
Sir, if father is a teacher in state govt aided school & mother is home maker then candidate will be counted in non creamy layer, right?
Yes
You are NCL
Sir Ncbc clearly states that their should be income of 8 lakh or above for three consecutive years to be part of creamy layer ….but you told that average is taken of 3 years , sir I couldn’t find any document mentioning average of 3 years, pls help sir ?
Sir, I checked the OBC Annexure and it is very confusing. I belong to the OBC NCL category, my father is a cultivator, so we have never filed for any ITR, last year's form fillup didnot ask for any. Sir, it is okay if I choose the option 'did not file for ITR'? What should I do in this situation? Thank you sir.
You should not worry,
In case your father/ mother is not filing ITR then you can opt for No ITR is filed.
In this case income certificate & OBC -NCL certificate will serve the purpose.
My best wishes
Thank you so much Sir
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIASwhat to be mentioned in income from salary , agriculture and other sources , if parents are self employed and donot have any agricultural land .
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIASAnd also I mentioned zero income in all sections of obc annexure ,is there any issues with this?
If I fill obc creamy layer in application this year,can I make changes to obc ncl next year in application?
Yes you can change next year
सर मेरे पिता रिटायर्ड हैं और उनकी नियुक्ति अनुकंपा/मृतक आश्रित के आधार पे हुई थी और सकल आया वार्षिक 5 लाख ना होने से उन्होंने कभी आई टी आर नहीं भरा है तो डिटेल में मैं क्या भरू ?
Sir i belong to OBC NCL category , in the form it's mentioned that " whether you have the documents for land holding " is it an issue if I mention it No , and if yes then what documents should i upload ?
Documents of land holding are
Govt department ( Revanue dpt) issues Khasra which can be uploaded. Now a days in many states digital copy of kh document is available.
Or Purchase document can be uploaded
Sir income certificate is necessary or not for obc ncl
OBC NCL Certificate + ITR of last 3 years will work but
If ITR is not filed then Income certificate is necessary.
Sir me obc non creamy layer se hu aur ITR file nhi krte h income 1 lac se km h
To only income certificate hi chahiye na?
Emitr vale ne ITR ki bhi bola
Sir, my father's annual income is more than 5 lakhs and my mother's is 2 .5 lakhs.my father files itr of rs 5 lakhs.should i upload itr doc with obc ncl?please reply sir I'm confused
If your parents are working in private sector & total income of your mother+ father is less than 8 lakh ( average of last 3 years) then you are eligible for OBC NCL
If your parents are working in Govt sector then income limit of 8 lakh is not applicable.
Sir my mother is a single parent and is employed in Coal India (PSU) at group D post
I also managed to get the OBC NCL certificate.
Does Dopt consider my candidature or will discard me??
Sir
My mother got promoted to bank assistant manager(central bank ) at 41 year of age from bank clerk
But from last three year financial income is more than 8 lakh
Am I eligible for obc ncl ?
Sir please reply
If your parent(s) are in Govt bank then In my opinion you are eligible for OBC NCL even if annual income is more than 8 lakh.
Kindly apply for OBC NCL certificate once you get from Govt authority you can apply with OBC NCL
Thank you sir
Sir My parents are not separated legally but they r not together
I have all the documents from my mother domicile and also the obc certificate from mother do icile .and my parents are from two different states.
Am I still eligible for obc
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Yes In my opinion you are eligible
Sir, my father is a central govt employee with appx 10lpa according to previous itr file but comes under group B class after 40 yrs of age, while my mother is a homemaker. Will i be included in non creamy layer of obc ? Please reply
Yes you are applicable for OBC NCL if your father is in Group B but mother is unemployed or Group C.
Salary income can be more than 8 lakh, there is no problem
Is Salary not counted for OBC Calculation if father is Gov Employees, if the salry of 3 years combined is 22 L @@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS
Sir ,My father does not do any job and stays at home and my mother is an Anganwadi worker, so will my certificate be required? please reply?
Sir OBC Non creamy layer ke liye Agriculture land limit criteria kya hai sir
There is no criteria of Ag land / prop.
Caste and Income are the criteria for OBC-NCL
Sir my father is branch manager in LIC but he is promotee and was recruited as computer technician therein....will i be still eligible for obc ncl ... considering LIC as a PSU??? And also the income exceeds 8 lakh annually
If your father was promoted to PSU manger level after 40 years of his service then you should fall in OBC NCL & criteria of 8 lakh income will not be valid.
I suggest you to check the status of promotion & apply for OBC NCL certificate with Govt authority, if they issue the OBC-NCL certificate then you can apply with NCL otherwise you can apply with Gen.
Please sir share the OBC non cremelayer certificate format for UPSC 2025.
You can go through UPSC notification, it is given in notification.
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS Good afternoon sir,
ST category ke aspirant ko central caste certificate lagana compulsory hai? Ya fir sirf state caste certificate se kaam ho jayega?
Thanks
your caste must be mentioned in Central list
Any certificate will work
Sir, I have OBC NCL certificate issued in 2025. My father is in PSU Non-mangerial post, but his average income of last 3 years is more than 8 lac. Should i apply for OBC NCL reservation or not ?
You are eligible for OBC NCL reservation as your parents are in PSUs non managerial post. Income limit of 8Lakh is not applicable in your case
Sir at the time of application for exam i was OBC NCL but when interview call was made 11 months later i am now OBC CL, then would i be treated as general or obc ?
Sir pls help me mera age 32 ho gya hai jan 2025 me but mai obc se hu still mai form nhi fill kr paa rha hu age issue aa rha hai what to do now...?
Sir , I'm OBC NCL candidate , But income on income certificate for financial year 2021-22 and 2022-23 are different from ITR amount respectively , but Both income are below 8 Lakh , Should i apply as in Ncl or not , Does Upsc check Income certificate during verification ?
Yes you can apply for NCL
If your certificate is made after 1st April 2024
Sir, my digitally signed st community certificate validity 3yrs.then,after 3years can i upload renewed community certificate in application part1.??
Old Community certificate will work.
But if you are OBC then income certificate / OBC NCL should be issued after 1st April 2024.
Respected Sir,
I come under OBC NCL, my parents have filed ITR is it required to submit asset documents?
Sir it’s my kind request to you to solve my query fast.
For OBC-NCL candidates, it is mandatory to fill OBC Annexure in that you have to upload ITR of last three years and related documents.
Kindly read the OBC Annexure guidelines
Sir meri certificate is financial year me bni hai but mera certificate kewal 2023-2024 ke financial year se bna hai mujhe kya krna pdega?
If your certificate is issued after 1 st April 2024 then it is valid but certificate should be issued on the bases of last 3 FY income.
If your parents are farmer or govt employee then you will be out of income criteria of 8 lakh hence no issue of having 1 FY.
If your parents are working in Private sector then 3 FYs based certificate is mandatory
@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS my father is working for central govt & group c service man or maine 1 april ke baad banaya hai 2023 -2024 ke financial year ke liye last 3 year ka ni hai so mai use submit kr sakta hu kya bcoz 11 feb tk hi hai wo issue waise v ni ho payega short period me
Sir i got central level Nmms scholarship at class 8th is it ok to write in achievement scholarship section?? Or avoid as it in 8th class
I got prize in school level science exhibition for 'hydroponics soilless agriculture ' prototype is it wirth mentioning??
And got 2nd price in district level maximum LED lighting with wind energy competition
Dear sir above all which should be mentioned in achievement section?? Above details are appropriate?? Or should avoid as school level or district level or there is no worry.. please help which to add or add three or not to adf anything...?? Your suggestions please
You can mention achievements of college and school level.
If you mention School level achievement then you need not mention the class 8th, instead you can just mention at School level.
If college level and recent achievements are enough to mention then School level achievements can be avoided.
Sir in my case my mother is a divorcee and she has my custody orders also but i have no information regarding my father's date of birth, pan card, employment etc. I am an OBC category candidate and i have OBC certificate that i have made on my basis. Now i am facing difficulty in filling parental information and OBC annexure
You need not to worry
You may mention NA ( Not Available ) for document of your father & Income as 0000
Or
Talk to UPSC facility counter for more clarification.
Sir my father's profession is agriculture and had made certificate based on FY 2023-24 so unable to get this whether it should also be based on FY 21-24 or FY 23-24 will suffice. As no ITR have been filed by my father so far. Please reply on this.
Secondly our Circle Officer has got transferred and the printable file for the OBC annexure issued by DoPT can be signed by the new officer and not online as huge bulk of certificates are pending and digital sign is awaiting for the office bearer. So will the cerificate stand valid which DoPT has provided?
If your existing OBC-NCL certificate was issued after 1st April 2024 then it is valid but if it was issued before 1st April 2024 then you should get new one.
Digital sign is not mandatory , you can get physical signed and stamped from competent officer.
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIASsir maine sahaj jan sewa Kendra se digital sign kiya hua obc certificate lagaya hai kya wo manya hoga
Sir..mere papa state government mai teacher the. Jinki income 8 lakh se jada tha but 2024 mai unka retirement hua hai to mera obc - ncl certificate banega ya nhi ..plz bataye sir as a kindly request
Sir gov job me 3 financial year ka ni bana na h na
Sir OBC NCL ke liye Agriculture land limit criteria kya hai sir
No
There is no criteria of Assets for OBC-NCL
Sir itr m ek year ki income h 5.71 lac
Toh abhi 3 year ki add kr k avg 8 se km honi chahiye ya fir ek year ki 8 se km honi chahiye
1year ki below 8
Average income of three years should be less than 8 lakhs for Private sector working parents.
For Govt sector working parents limit of 8lakh is not applicable because CL is defined on the bases of class of service.
Sir My father is a teacher in a State Government Aided High School in Odisha and salary is 75000 per month which was increased in 2024 .. previously around 60-65k.
Mother is homemaker. Am I fall in NCL category ?
Plz kindly reply
Yes you are in OBC NCL because your father is in Govt job but not in Group A.
Teachers are in group C.
Therefore limit of 8 lakh is not applicable
Sir that is the migration issue.
My father originally belong to uttar pradesh but we live in Maharashtra from past 15 years. And i completed my school or graduation in Maharashtra so which stata obc certificate I need to summit. Please reply.
Sir , my mom ke adhar card me name kuch aur hai..aur mere sabhi certificate me name me ek latter jayda hai..aur kumari ki jagh devi hai...kya kre fir
Don’t worry
Your documents and Id proof is required, not for your parents.
You should fill as per names mentioned in your Class 10th certificate.
Sir obc ncl se belong karta hoon,,,,pita ji farmer hain,,income ka koi aur source nahin hai to kya pita ji ka income certificate aniwarya hai,,,please sir batayen
इनकम सर्टिफिकेट या ITR में से एक डिक्यूमेंट जरूरत पड़ती है।
यदि आपके ओबीसी -NCL सेरिफ़िकेट में यह लिखा है कि आपके परिवार के आय का खेती के अलावा और कोई श्रोत नहीं है तो संभवता इनकम सर्टिफिकेट की जरूरत ना पड़े । लेकिन मैं आपको suggest करूँगा कि आप इनकम सर्टिफिकेट बनवा लें ।
Sir, My father is a group c Govt employee. His income is 9lakh, i have obc ncl certificate. In upsc application form what to enter in annual income ?
In case of Govt service in Group C, Income limit of 8lakh is not applicable hence you are eligible for OBC-NCL
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS thankyou sir
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Sir obc annexure form filling details video plz my father is in category b
Sir land ka criteria ni hai kya obc ka ?
Land is part of asset & there is no asset criteria for OBC
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIASthank you so much sir
Sir wealth tax exemption criteria khtam hogya toh upsc wealth kyu puch rahi hai parents ki @@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS
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Sir mai obc student hu sir mere papa k 2name h mere marksheet & unki job me alg alg h aur jo income certificate mere name se bna h usme bhi mere marksheet based h aur income agri based bni sir..puchhna ye h that papa k job ki detail de y na de & income certificate job based lgaye y agri based...plz sir reply🙏
Plz Reply sir ji
@@artiyadav7183 mere sath bhi yhi hai
Jo marksheet me papa ka nam hai wo use kro…aur agricultural income count nahi hota hai. Sirf job ka income count hoga agar wo itr file karte hai to income uske according check kr lo.. income bs 8 lakh se km hona chahiye
Sir,
Income on ITR differs from income on INCOME CERTIFICATE issued by Tehsil office. I also have Central OBC NCL (issued by SDO office) based on this INCOME CERTIFICATE.
In one of 3 years ITR crosses 8 Lakhs but not on INCOME CERTIFICATE.
What should i do?
Kindly reply soon sir.
I’m in very confusing state.
If your father/ mother are in Govt sector then 8Lakh criteria will not be applicable.
Secondly Average income of last 3 FYs should be less than 8 Lakh if your parents are in private sector. In one year income is more than 8L but in other 2 yrs income is less than 8 lakh and average of three yrs is also less then there is no problem.
Since you have got OBC NCL then can apply with OBC NCL.
You can upload income certificate.
@@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS Thank you sir
Sir can i change my status from creamy to non creamy layer . I have mistakenly choosen creamy layer ,i have non creamy layer certificate. I have filled the form
hello sir, My father is retired FROM RBI as a clerk and gets pension around 4.5 lakh. He has some FDs from which interest amounting to 3 lakh is shown in ITR filing. Hence, overall father's income is now 7.5 lakh. similarly my mother's ITR is also filed with some FD interest amounting to 4.5 lakh. Adding both it comes to be 12 lakh. Am i eligibe for OBC NCL certificate? KINDLY REPLY. I AM UNABLE TO GET IT.
Yes you are eligible because
Your father was a govt servant and he was in class C therefore salary income will not be accounted.
Pension income is a salary income therefore it will not add to income for the criteria of 8 lakh.
In my opinion you belong to OBC-NCL.
If you have NCL certificate then you should apply with OBC-NCL
Sir can i change my caste into sub caste ?
I am not able to understand your question kindly elaborate
@B.Singh_CMDNextIAS sir belongs to Chamar caste can I change it to Jatav caste which is our Sub caste ?
Assistant Professor of Government aided clg .. which class he belongs to ? For senior clg ?
In my opinion You will fall in OBC NCL as Asst prof may be in group B or Group C
Pls check the Pay scale of your father and match with Pay scale of central Govt Group B and Group C employees
Sir my father and mother are government teacher ( class c) and their salary income is override 8 lakh .....can i get non creamy layer certificate
Yes
You are eligible for ONC NCL,
Sir, if 1500 sq feet land in name of father and if he divides it equally between his 2 sons (both above 18 years) so both will be eligible for EWS separately ? (All other EWS conditions are met)
If 1500 Sq feet land is out side municipal boundary of city then there is no problem as limit is 1800 Sq fit but if it is within municipal limit then it exceeds EWS criteria.
If land is already divided and transferred in name of both sons as you say and as per govt record land is registered in son’s name with age more than 18 years then the problem will be solved and EWS criteria is fulfilled
Sir my father recruited as clerk(group c ) in punjab national bank and became officer at 53years of age and retired as officer...
Now he is deceased and my mother recieves family pension..
Am i eligible for obc ncl???
Yes boss
Yes you are eligible in NCL
Sir, my father is a government teacher and his salary is more than 8 lakhs , my obc ncl certificate has been made from agricultural source and it is signed by sdm .
Am i eligible for obc ncl??
Caste certificate number kaun sa bharu centrel annexure mein certificate number nehi h state mein h
Pls check again, every certificate has number.
If not then fill as given in your certificate which you are uploading.
Is brokerage considered as gross income?
Yes it is part of total income if shown in ITR
Obc ncl certificate 4lakh pe bna h lekin papa ka ITR 6lakh ka h any issue in future?please reply
There should be no problem in your case as income is less than 8 lakh
Same issue with me 😮
Hello sir
I belong to the OBC Creamy layer should I fill the form with general category or OBC CL category and if From OBC CL category then what will be the format of OBC certificate.
Thankyou
Same bhai kya kru
sir i have obc ncl feb 2023 but mene abhi ka curret year nahi banwaya hai kya karu ?????? pls answer
Sir upsc ki website hi nahi chal pa rahi sahi se
Open nahi ho rahi apne aap logout ho ja raha
Try late night hours or early morning hours
Sir,
What about family pension? My father was a govt. employee(became class 2 after 45 years of age), and my mother gets family pension on his behalf. Moreover, my mother is in Sarva Siksha Abhiyan (not a regular govt. employee). She hasn't filed ITR in the last 3-4 years. Do I come in OBC-NCL? It is very confusing. Can you please help me?
Famliy Pension- 8.2 lakh approx (3 year avg)
Interest Income- 1.15 lakh approx( 3 year avg)
Mother's Salary- 5.3 lakh approx (3 year avg)
Rental Income- 0.84 lakh
Sir mai bihar se hu obc ncl revenue officer ka sing Anchal Karyalaya ka valid h upsc k liye
Check & verify from your dist administration,
Revanue officer who signed your document should be Tehshildar or higher.
Sir obc Performa manually print nikalkar fill karna h ya download karke digitally fill kr de plz reply