Explosive: Did James Robison Know About Robert Morris's Abuse?
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Cindy Clemishire and others speak out against her alleged abuser, Pastor Robert Morris of Gateway Church in Texas. James Robison announced that he was not present at the meeting of Cindy and her parents with Robert Morris. Did the elders of Shady Grove church know of Robert Morris's abuse of Cindy Clemishire. Robert Morris, a pastor at a Texas megachurch resigned Tuesday after a woman accused him of sexually abusing her several times between 1982 and 1987, when she was a minor.
The resignation of Robert Morris, founder and senior pastor at Gateway Church, was accepted by the church’s board of elders. In a statement, the board said it is “heartbroken and appalled” by the allegations raised by Cindy Clemishire, who was 12 when the alleged abuse began in 1982. The church said it had hired a law firm to investigate the allegations.
“Regretfully, before Friday, June 14, the elders did not have all the facts of the inappropriate relationship between Morris and the victim, including her age at the time and the length of the abuse,” the board said, adding that the elders had known about an extramarital relationship but thought it was with a “young lady.”
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STEVE LEBLANC retracted his statement about JAMES ROBISON. HE WAS NOT AT THE MEETING WITH CINDY’S parents. CINDY CLEMISHIRE ISSUED A STATEMENT CONFIRMING THAT JAMES ROBISON WAS NOT THERE.
Thank you Table Talk Truth for posting this because you responded based on information coming from someone who was on the inside and knew them. James Roberson’s statement of not being there with Robert Morris, Cindy, and her family does not fully clear him or make him innocent. He acknowledged that he was aware Robert had moral failure in his past. Knowing that alone and allowing him to become an elder over the people speaks volumes. Nothing but False Prophets. Those who can discern and have eyes to see will see.
@tabletalktruth I wish you would clarify this with the full information that although he was not there he knew.
My husband once said, "Come here and look at this! I've found a new RUclips pastor." It was Robert Morris. I listened to him for about ten minutes and said no way. I thought he was arrogant, possibly a narcissist. I attended a women's conference in Fort Worth at the convention center. When he was introduced, I went to dinner early. I had no idea why I was so repulsed by him and it seemed no one else cared about his attitude.
I also tried to listen to him but couldn't do it.
He repulsed me simply by horrible doctrine.he has no real knowledge if the scriptures by what I have heard him is the best he has
Me too
Me too. I could never listen to him. Something just never felt right. His teaching was not scriptural
@@analuarca9843 I was turned off by him preaching about money and tithing
Why did not her father go to the police and file a report.
That doesn't make sense to me.
I had a church turn on me and use scripture I went to police and court anyway some people are so Jim Jones Cult minded they let the church lead them
An excellent question that I have been asking, too!!
In the 80s, there were a lot of stigma about child abuse and any sexual abuse that can be exposed. I know someone who was raped a teenage girl by a church youth leader, he was 2 yrs older but the family didn't report it because it would a great scandal and the rapist claimed it was consensual in spite of the victim being bedridden and they were just acquaintances. The church needs to be held accountable for hiding sexual predators. The rapist ended up raping another young woman while she was drunk, got her pregnant so they were forced to get married 😢
Yeah I wanna know too. That’s not a father. He’s disgusting too! He should’ve protected his daughter. 😮
@@Bellajane127that’s disgusting! Shame on her parents! They could’ve kept the other girl from getting raped!
Not only did he steal her innocence, but he stole the joy we should feel on Christmas from her! The first time he hurt her was on Christmas night! It just makes me sick!
Morris had no mercy on her! All of the 365 days of the year, he picked the day where the whole world is celebrating the birth of our Saviour!!😢
Morris is a pervert still is always will be he still playing word salad like "young lady" and " a moral lapse" send him to prison and take Robinson too he's complicit to hiding a crime both had better thank their lucky stars it wasn't my daughter
@@Bellajane127
James 2:13 He shall have judgment without mercy who has shown no mercy.
I guess the mood was on....
Thank you Cindy for being resilient and brave. Praying you will be rewarded for your pain.
The elders need to be investigated also. I've heard rumors. Father, expose evil. 🙏
Tom Lane, who was the elder notified in 2005, is no longer there. I left the church in 2015 after 15 years there, and on their staff page, I don't see anyone I either recognize, or have ever heard of.
James Roberson as well!😮
Exactly. They never should have "accepted" his resignation in a situation like this. He should have been fired. Robert admitted to being very sexually immoral when he was in his teens. That wasn't the truth, because he was in his 20's when he did these horrible things. But, he also admitted to using p##rnography, during his marriage. He proved he's a pedophile for what he did to Cindy, and he's lied so much that they can't assume that it wasn't CP that he was involved with during his marriage.
@@PurePrairie Pornography is a new one to me. That is bad enough but you're right, what if it includes little ones? So sickening ...
An NDA cannot legally silence a victim or witness of criminal activity. No one can use an NDA to conceal a crime of any magnitude. Perpetrators of crimes weaponize non disclosure agreements by using them as tools of intimidation and manipulation. Please do not be deceived. Crimes, as well as activities leading up to crimes can still be reported, talked about and written about even though you have signed an NDA. Also, never sign an NDA without consulting your OWN ATTORNEY. You should have the opportunity to have your own lawyer review the contract before you sign it. If the person presenting you with the NDA has a problem with you consulting a lawyer before signing, WALK AWAY!!! That is a red flag 🚩
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He should be stripped of his Pastoral title for the rest of his life. It is a profession and if Pastors commit a crime so atrocious as this then there should be a law that states they can never be a Pastor or be referred to as a Pastor again!
NDA's don't count when a crime is committed. They fall away. ❤
That's what I thought. They had also offered an insulting amount, 1/2 what she asked.
Tom Lane responded to her email instead of RM. She had also been threatened that she would be charged with blackmail. Talks broke down. It's all so messy! I greatly hope this goes to trial, under amended statutes and/or fraud charges against the elders.
They said this would be the year of exposure ❤PTL that the truth is coming out! (Church, our filthy government and the entertainment industry!!)
God will expose ALL SPIRITUAL VAMPIRES....
Why did God not prevent the spiritual vampirism in the first place, instead of letting it happen and _then_ exposing the spiritual vampires? Too bad for the victim, I guess...
@@Steelmage99 Bible students know...
Jeremiah17:5-...
Matthew 24:4
2TYMOTHY4:3-4
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@@ivonkwAn6443 Erhm...none of what you quoted has any relevance to my point.
5 This is what the LORD says: “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the LORD.
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
James Robinson always gave me the creeps. It appeared to me that his wife was afraid of him
I always thought she seemed like an abuse victim, too.
Robison should be ashamed of
Absolutely, I believe he was probably mean and abusive toward her, that’s the way she acts!!…her looks are very telling!😮😮
Unfortunately that is a common observation about sister Betty.
Robison had a HORRIBLE anger problem (he has admitted because he never knew his dad). I'm sure Betty, his wife, was afraid. Back in the day he would yell and sweat profusely when he preached. He was scary!
Pedophiles get away with their crimes due to a code of silence. I am sure there are other victims as well. Horrible evil human. He needs to go to prison. Sex offenders are not welcome in prison. He is a predator wolf in sheep's clothing.
💯 If he's truly repentant this time, he should turn himself in and ask for forgiveness from each of his victims.
@@Bellajane127 Agreed
I agree, there seems to be a code of silence in the churches!!😮
Be careful with your vitriol. God will expose what's in your closet . There's far too much hate in these comments. That's NOT the Father's way. God has exposed, now HE will deal with the sin. Jesus told Peter, never mind that other person, you follow me. (Paraphrased) let us examine our own walk and close our mouths.
Hmmm. Where is your concern for the victim ?
Thanks for this video and speaking up for victims and not enabling abusers!
You're welcome!
Leadership knew! Today, a new case came to light. The church paid a civil lawsuit in April.
The church is responsible for elevating him knowing what he did and was capable of doing again. Shame on them. ❤
I do remember when Jan and Paul Crouch’s granddaughter came forward with SA within the TBN family
I read that years and listened to her other granddaugter expose that jan crouch told her that matt crouch was the product of an affair she had with a Mr. America contestant and is not Paul Crouch seniors biological son
And didn't Jan herself shut her down? There's big money in religion, and there are many wolves in sheep's clothing. If someone starts to bother you by their teaching, which appears very estranged from Biblical truth, run way--don't walk. There are so many frauds in the pulpit, it's frightening.
Many people are questioning Cindy's motivations and the timing of everything. Our question is...WHEN IS IT EVER OKAY TO VIOLATE A CHILD? When does the statute of limitation run out? 10 years? 30 years? Cindy Clemishire was a 12-year-old child manipulated and violated by a married man.
Never okay and why many don’t come out with what happened to them as a child. To be sexually abused as a 12yo child is severe trauma, a loss of self and your voice and most likely threatened and blamed and a child can repress thoughts as a coping mechanism to deal with trauma. Part of healing is finding your voice and as an adult protecting that child inside of you that didn’t have the means to do. I believe she tried to get him to reimburse her for counseling over the years.
I was at a conference at gateway where he mentioned his past failures and his repentance. One of the topics of the conference was how to affair proof your marriage. His wife was sitting on the front row when he was speaking. They’ve remained married. Much fruit has come from this man’s ministry since he was 28. Gods presence was strong at Gateway and songs still sung today were birthed from worship leaders at that church.
Here are some questions to ask:
1. Why did it take over 3 decades for this to come to light?
2. Did her family know and not press charges soon after they found out
3. When did she tell her family?
4. Is she a believer?
5. Has anything else happened with P Robert and anyone else?
6. What did the elders really know?
7. Did she consent to anything?
despite possible jail time he may have to serve, remember people can change, and be made new. Nobody knows their hearts except Jesus. All judgment should be reserved post investigation
Wrong is wrong no matter when the truth comes out this is WRONG A CRIME AGAINST A CHILD THIS SO CALLED PREACHER SCUMBAG SAYS HE DID IT SCUMBAG ROBINSON COVERED IT UP THATS WRONG WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?????
Cindy does not owe anyone an explanation. She did not do anything wrong.
Amen
The elders are as guilty as he is...TOLERANCE and defending such
That’s right. They were complicit. Enabling and facilitating.
Absolutely, they should be called out as well!😮
I heard Robert Morris himself speaking on this to his congregation in 2014, he was doing his best to convince his church that it wasn't that bad, it infuriated me because Cindy was 12 years old.
I was in that congregation, and nobody knew she was 12. He did that thing where if you say it over and over again, people believe it the way you tell it. He started that baloney in 2005 after Cindy contacted Tom Lane. Now I can put together all the pieces. He conveniently left out the part that was criminal. Sick.
Oh wow, he did say some very disturbing things but he left out her age, he was and is a predator.
Father God instructed me to get out of the church 8 years ago.
were you a member of robert morris gateway church?
@@RobertGareau-z2b No. The worlds church system has been corrupted with false doctrine.
A word came forth that the Lord was going to clean His house. Looks like the cleaning has started. Thank both of you. I judge the both of you incorrectly one time. The Lord opened my eyes. Appreciate y'all much. I have never liked Robert Morris. I knew something was out of line. Thank you both
Sadly People are blind to this evil man’s crime. My sweet Pastors wife, who was abused herself, defended this creep. I was so shocked I couldn’t say a word. It was at a women’s Bible study. I could not believe she was defending this monster. I’m afraid if I opened my mouth my anger at the situation would be too much. Plz pray for her eyes to be opened! She loves the Lord and is so loving and helpful to so many hurting people. I hate to see how deceived she is. 😧
My sister as well in regards to another 'pastor.' People pleasers.
Your "sweet pastor's wife" needs counseling herself. No one should defend the deception and illegal statutory rape of a 12 year old child that was swept under the rug for decades, allowing that fraud to become a billionnaire.
Man will fail , Jesus never will , some has made ministry their God instead of the Lord, get in the word and worship in our homes
Amen!!
AMEN❤️ ONLY MY
ABBA FATHER CAN EVER BE TRUSTED❤️
I HAVE FOUND IN MY OWN LIFE THAT
MAN HAS FAILED ME
MANY TIMES😔💔
THAT IS WHERE I'M AIMING.
I am also a victim of abuse but not through the church or even a Christian and I can tell you it's painful when no one will listen or they shrug you off.
Same here. Sorry this happened to you. My pastor brother uses Joyce Meyers story with her dad who abused her as a weapon against me and my sisters who were abused by our dad who was a church leader. What happened to these type of pastors? They have no empathy for women like me who was sexually abused as a child? Jesus said it would be better for someone to drown themselves than to harm a little child.😢
I hear your pain, and I'm sorry we share it.
I'm so sorry 😥
I'm so sorry this happened to you ...I hope you have found peace...
@@caroletta451 I have been praying for justice for the last 8 years and I believe God will give me justice thanks for your concern God Bless you.
The whole situation for everyone involved is very sad...this world is vile
This man Robert Morris preached at my church in Florida & he gave me that creepy feeling just like on TV. Wasn’t sure why but there was always something about him besides his arrogance… Thank God he’s been EXPOSED!!!
I feel the same way. He gave me the creeps. I turned him off.
How many NDA'S does Robert Morris have
Its puzzling the parents didn't take measures. This should not have happened.
I've heard that he only stepped down for 1 month based on Morris's own writings. More lies to be exposed.
2 years... not mere months.
He should have been reported to the authorities.
What other crimes are the elders and"Christian" leaders shoving under the rug...the church is in a mess...❤
Later on, Morris made himself the victim
Saying the child, the young girl was a Jezebel, a temptress.
Why was he still around children period.
@@carolinasongbird3362I thought the same thing was wondering if his daughter is keeping her kids away from him unless supervision
Cindy may not be his only victim! How much more will come out? And those pastors that knew or suspected his crime need to come forward or they could be considered complicit to protect him and part of the coverup.
The extremely narcissistic take on this whole thing is that he somehow thinks his repentance is about him. Or being restored to ministry is about him. NO! Do you know how many people look at this and say “that’s why I’m not Christian”???
Can God forgive? Of course. But being above reproach isn’t a judgment on teachers who committed horrific crimes and sins. It’s about protecting believers and showing the world we are serious about righteousness.
Thank you❤❤❤
I've been familiar with James Robinson ministries for many years but I never followed Robert Morris I would see Robert Morris in passing as I flipped stations but I never stopped to listened to a sermon of his. Never knew he and Robinson had so much history. Had no idea Morris had such a following & so much influence or was so close to those who head Daystar. And now its coming out that Robinson had first hand knowledge of the molestation and was instrumental in communication with the victim and her family.....this thing is getting bigger and messier by the minute.
UPDATE: James & Betty Robinson just released a statement saying there were never aware of the victim's age nor were they part of any correspondence with the victim or her family. They produced a document from the victims attorney as proof.
There's a Texas inmate on death row currently seeking to avoid execution for murder he's called a spiritual leader AND he's a victim of childhood sexual abuse. Victims aren't getting the help that they need while predators are protected. This has to change. We have to keep speaking up about this.
Good. Start speaking up about the 85 thousand unaccompanied children who crossed the southern border and are now unaccounted for. There are some victims . Victims of all kinds of sexual abuse and slavery.
Hi poppa and momma Cee. The dominos just keep falling. How do you justify blaming a twelve year old child for a grown man’s actions. All of this is very sad. I agree with you guys thanks for standing on the word and bringing these videos to us. ❤❤❤
These people are condoning his evil behavior 💯
I’ve been saying this since this news broke there’s no way James Robinson doesn’t know this situation
It certainly looks that way.
James said he was not there and he was told it was a "young lady" not a 12 year old. Also, this guy apologized to James for lying about him.
@@susangarcia3466 pedophile needs to be in jail family needs to go away Church is not a family business
This is chilling! God Almighty is cleaning house!
Watch and pray, for you know neither the day nor the hour!
May God Almighty bless you all in the mighty name of the LORD Jesus Christ!
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God dealt with Eli and his sons. He was still a prophet when he died, teaching young Samuel how to hear from God. But he had been fattened and negligent of his duties, refusing to rebuke and chasten his sons who were utterly corrupt. The modern day clergy hide behind "touch not by anointed and di your prophets no harm" to inflict pain on their flock. Those who discern their deceptive ways are persecuted out of the church. And now rightly so I do think they should speak out loud because they were demeaned and harassed for smiling the stink in some of these churches. I'm going to call out another dimension of deception at gateway church because yes it is a reality that has been shoved under the rug! There is racism and classism within , especially the Southlake campus. A security guard I know personally was fired after a couple used derogatory and aggressive language at her. I was discriminated against by the singles ministry that claimed to help single mothers. I just didnt know they helped caucasian single mothers get back on their feet with all the perks for their dignity. Oh when the head isn't right, the WHOLE BODY is not right!
Get out Morris and Robertson, go Go go....
All complicit, so very sad. Unqualified. Period. So are divorced and remarried, yet that’s ignored/ accepted. “ depart from me you workers of iniquity I never knew you “
Exactly
Put him in jail.
#lockhimup #shewas12
PRISON
Ya'll said everything that I was thinking. Covered all the angles. I have so much "righteous" anger against everyone who let her down, putting money and power ahead of protecting an innocent little girl. 😢
Thank you for telling the truth!
This is despicable, he needs to go to prison, it may be his only hope for redemption/salvation.
Jesus forgave all that was done to him...'Father, forgive them.' Did Morris stop 40 yrs ago or continue sinning? Did he try to live doing good? We don't know enough to judge yet people seem harsh and condemning.
This is the best Biblical analysis I've heard on this subject. Thank you and God bless you for doing this.
Wow, thank you!
No he doesn't need to " sit down with the congregation"! Morris needs to sit in JAIL! Morris committed A CRIME, for God's sake!
This - this right here - this is evil😡 I actually cried😢 when I found out that Cindy was 12 years old when the abuse started🙁
1. Who else did Cindy tell that ignored her?
2. Why hasn’t James Robinson been called out? Is he “too big” and powerful?
Luke 12 v 2-3 AMPC
2 Nothing is [so closely] covered up that it will not be revealed, or hidden that it will not be known.
3 Whatever you have spoken in the darkness shall be heard and listened to in the light, and what you have whispered in [people’s] ears and behind closed doors will be proclaimed upon the housetops.
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Prayerfully this stuff regarding Robison and Griffing will come to light soon as to what they knew and why they kept it quiet!
The first time Morris abused Cindy at 12yo was Christmas day!!!😮😢💔
Sort of been waiting for his fall from his high position. Figured it had to come after years of milking the congregation of money. How could people not notice he talks like a con man? Because he is a con man. Smooth, personable, and always asking for money. There was never very much of God in his sermons but a lot of himself. These prosperity preachers eventually and inevitably fall.
A con man indeed. You got that right.
Where were her Parents and THEY should have called the police 😮
God will not be mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap
Ok. No more finger pointing at priests. We are no different anymore. She couldn't find a single pastor who would dare support her and face him knowing he had to be above reproach. ALL THESE YEARS.
And many will come in my Name and deceive the people, if that were possible.........it is all coming out, Jesus told us all.
Please read Matthew 24, you're misquoting 2 different scriptures. Verses 5 and 24.
@@donnaleveron5711 You get my point however
Add insult to injury...Robert Morris is obviously a pig who should be in jail BUT I thought James Robison was one of the good ones! Apparently he's not! It makes me ill ...
Same!! I use to listen to and admire him. Now I only trust Jesus.
Take your out of line comment to the Lord. See what He thinks of your terrible attitude. You are likely not a Christian and certainly not emulating the character of God.
"Pigs in the Parlor"
I know me too. This too is so sad.
Exactly. I'm really being blessed by watching Andrew Womack his teachings but should I is he real? Who can be trusted? Can anyone? Only Jesus.
The hatred and vitriol in the eyes and speech of this man scares me. I question many things about this situation. There are obviously relevant questions about this situation that are NOT being brought forward. I have alot of questions but am heartbroken by the response of the body of believers and church leaders
You should watch that whole interview then, this is just a snippet
What is concealed shall be revealed.Nothing is concealed from our Heavenly Father God🙏✝️❤️💪🙏
I am appalled by the comments I have read from some people who know about this story and really "believe" she seduced him.
The response from the pews is both disgusting & discouraging. Unfortunately I think God is showing us that there is sin in the camp and MANY people in the pews are enabling this behavior bc they are hiding their own secrets.
@WangOChonHe was NOT Trump's spiritual advisor. Like 50-100 pastors & Christian leaders, Morris was 1 member of a presidential COMMITTEE.
@WangOChon So you are one of those who believe she had to seduce him or this is just an opportunity bash Trump and you really don't care about Cindy?
@@misswinnie4.8 Actually if you read Wang's comment carefully he's referring to Cindy. Wang is just another disgusting person.
@@misswinnie4.8those are the people who idolize a man instead of God. They have put a pedophile on a pedestal and can’t see straight.
And I saw on Facebook where someone posted that he actually didn't sit out those two years he was ministering
It was all for a show!!😢
@@carolinasongbird3362 Birds of a feather!
You spoke with clarity about the difference between Christian membership & leadership.
Sad about James Robison KNOWING too.
I was going to send money to his ministry once, and something just told me NO. Thank you, Lord. 🙏🏼
At least you got the surname correct, Bob.
Yes, it's Robison, not Robinson.
I can hardly believe how so many people are that ignorant/lazy. You can only blame "Autospell" (or whatever the heck it's called) so much.
If you're going to post something, get it right, people.
God bless and guide you, Cindy.
The guilty party blaming an underaged victim in this case is despicable. Morris should have been turned into law enforcement and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i'm a cradle catholic and I've said the same exact thing to the catholic leadership. To do otherwise is to let them get away with it. If the church leadership wasn't willing then her parents should have per sued it. a 12 year old isn't capable of making those kinds of decisions,
I can understand her parents' desire to protect their daughter from the circus and pain of reporting Morris to law enforcement, particularly if the church forced him to resign. That was a different time. Church leadership couldn't be trusted. It was their responsibility to report the crime and to protect the identity of the victim.
Even if they are capable of making that move, children should not be expected to make that move.
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@@carolinasongbird3362 😥
@@carolinasongbird3362 It's becoming clearer to me that the American pulpits are rotten bc the fruit in our pews is rotten. May God have mercy on us.
We need to PRAY 🙏🏽 FOR ALL THE LEADERS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN Positions in any type of leadership any type of position that the Lord has allowed you to be in we need to pray pray pray pray pray pray for these people because we don’t fight against the flesh and blood we fight against the principalities of the air and yes, even though these people did some pretty outrageous thingsyou still need to pray for their soul no, they should not be allowed to go back in any type of ministry. We need to pray for them.
Amen
Knowing about a crime and not calling it out makes all who knew as guilty as the actual person who committed a crime. Wow get promoted after committing a crime .
I've never cared for James Robison; now I know that he's a hypocrite and snake! They all deserve some jail time.
I never felt good about him either
I went to Charity Navigator and looked up Jim's pay check which was extremely high and I lost interest in him.. It looked also that his wife was on the payroll. When they have such a high hunger for $$ rather than service they have the wrong attitude to become good preachers.
SNAKE is exactly what I think of Robison, too.
He was not involved in this issue with Robert Morris according to Mama and Poppa Cee's post above. Please read it before you comment.
@Lyntique I know exactly why I'm talking about and stand by what I said!
He should have been fired. He is disqualified from the ministry.
We found out that sex abusers can be above the law if the victim doesn't report. You have til you're 48. Do something to expose them or it could be your grandchildren who get preyed on. Women need to stop letting the church or their husbands silence them. And stop believing that forgiving them is all you will do. Report it and save the children.
@@carolinasongbird3362 I hope he didn't do anything to the children in the other countries he visited.
Morris did the crime Robinson hid the crime throw them both in prison for inmate justice
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and also stop sending them money
What a terrible thing to say. Obviously you are not Christian. You certainly don't know the Lord.
@@RobertGareau-z2b YES, PLEASE!
@@carolinasongbird3362 Yes, he readily admitted his lust issues from the pulpit! Decades ago I heard him say he would find a woman in the crowd at his crusades and hyper focus on her! Ughhhh! I thought, at least he admits it but now I wonder, did he act on it?
The wife is guilty, too. Will all lie to the end? Lies that are heard by millions! We know how God hates liars! Woah woah woah!
Thank you for making video.
This is JUST like what happened with JOSH DUGGAR and how HIS family KNEW he tried to molest his own SISTERS but tried to hide it and keep a policeman friend to not act on Josh's crime. BUT thank GOD Josh Duggar WAS arrested and prosecuted AND is in jail right now!
He should fear the millstone!!
It was criminal!
The WORD says, "Know those that labor among you."
Give Cindy $5,000,000.00 without NDA
Why should she get that amount when millions of other women have been victimized as well. They will get no money and still suffer with emotions.
@hadassahpeace4733 Because this involves her and the church not other millions of women who were victimized by other sexual predators.
@@hadassahpeace4733 Maybe because he reportedly has 117 million? Why not?
Oh my goodness didnt you understand what I was saying is millions of girls and boys have been abused and molested, but not by a wealthy man maybe. That was my point. If she gets 5 million or a dollar I dont care. I was speaking on behalf of other young children. They were victimized but no one to sue.
It's a shame this happened because people are going to mistrust their pastors. So many of pastors are in scandal across this country.
May God forgive pastor Robert Morris for his sin he must repent and never repeat this sin. 🙏
The Lord gave me so many doubts about this church. I didn’t want to believe the feelings I had. I first had my doubts when they always had alter calls and made announcements during the prayer for the people that the Lord called to the alter. I felt that was VERY disrespectful to the Lord And The person that wanted to turn their life over to God. REALLY GATEWAY? I texted the number they tell you to text if you need a question answered. I think it was 71010. I told them my concerns and they responded with “ some people like short prayers”. REALLY??? I was also curious why Jimmy Evans was gone for a couple of years and no one said anything about him. I asked an elder and was told. “ oh he’s doing other things now “. And he walked off. As not to be asked any thing else. I only asked because I was missing his preaching and wondered where he was. Please Lord help us all!! I pray Cindy and for the families that have been greatly affected by this! This is a crime!!!
They fired Jimmy Evans as an apostolic overseer when he disagreed publicly with James Morris (RM's son) taking over the church. The son is now listed as the "Associate Senior Pastor". They just removed RM from their staff page.
God is cleansing the church from the tares that were planted by the enemy those tares are the weeds that “look like” wheat. Read the parable of the wheat and the tares read what Jesus explained to his disciples about this parable
He should go to jail, because what he did!!
Morris is a false teacher. Many have been trying to tell, but people are blind and deaf
The bible has always said don't put a young man in the place of a pastor because of pride , and now we can see why !
I have valid questions: Why is she coming out now? Why didn't her parents file or press charges when they found out? I feel like I am missing pieces of this story. Did she just come out now at 54 about him doing this or was this all known years ago? If so, why wait to come out about something this serious for this long? Any man who inappropriately touches a 12-year-old is illegally breaking the law. Why was nothing done about this years ago? Police reports? I am sorry, but he should be stripped of his Pastoral title for the rest of his life. It is a profession and once you commit a crime so atrocious as this then there should be a law that states you can never be a Pastor or be referred to as a Pastor again.
He had a child already and a beautiful wife!
I really hope that there are no others prayers for them all.❤
Something is amist, something smells like rotten fish! I'm never on the side of abusers but I'm wondering if this has to do with Morris being against Joni Lamb's situation/new entanglement/ marriage why focus is being removed from her mess by now outing Morris... Dirty, dirty, dirty anyway you look at it! When a child has been abused, consider your own kids and the risk you leave your kids and grandkids in the path of the abuser! Dang! For so many in leadership to know and keep it hidden? Unforgivable! Everyone of them must also be held accountable! God forgives and restores but when a bank robber is caught, you don't put them back in the bank vault... Honestly, not knowing Morris beyond what I've seen on the tube, it looks like a good person, his sermons are on point but the behind the scenes shenanigans says different and worst, how do you blame the victim, a 12 yr old child? Christ alone saved me so they don't affect my salvation but their actions don't encourage the lost to redemption... Time for some house cleaning!
Morris wasn't against Joni & Doug's marriage.
His sermons are not even biblically based much less on point.he is a false teacher period
Morris is a piece of crap
His teaching is on point? I beg to differ. Whether or not he knows that he is a false teacher the truth of the matter is that he teaches heresy. My gut feeling is that he knows he is a heretic. He and all the other ‘prosperity’’ and Word of Faith preachers are wolves in sheep's clothing. They completely twist what it means to be anointed with the spirit and treat Faith as some type of commodity. Yes, if you do not have enough faith in your faith tank you cannot be healed. If you don't donate enough money to the church you cannot prosper. This type of teaching is full heretical and needs to be exposed for what it is. It preys upon the naivete and laziness of the follower who does not want to take the time to read and study the Bible for themselves. This type of teaching preys upon the weak and vulnerable and poor of our society who are struggling with paying their bills and/or struggling with health problems. These people become even more depressed after fearing they do not have enough faith to be healed of health or rewarded with monetary increase. These people begin to question God or the legitimacy of it all. This type of teaching is straight from hell and pleases Satan to no end.
His sermons are on point? He preaches that Jesus laid down his divinity while he was here on earth making him a heretic.
Like 50-100 pastors & Christian leaders, Morris was 1 member of a presidential COMMITTEE.
That's irrelevant, the president knew nothing about this situation.....
These Trumpists are abhorrent
@@davidpeters8813they are Trumpists,birds of a feather
@@davidpeters8813 People constantly demean Trump bc he seeks counsel but they fail to mention that it's not from 1 "spiritual" person. They say Paula White is his pastor which is false. He's never attended White's church. He has attended Jefferies church, but mostly he and Melania (Catholic) attend an Episcopal church near their home.
Could have off been paid off by the liberals to get to Trump? Is that what you believe? Pay her millions to come out publicly to make Trump look bad, is that your thought?
Read the victim statement regarding James Robinson
James met wjrh cindy and her parents back then? Well why didnt he tell the elders her age or how can the elders say they didn't know her age. Her age was out!!!
Good o'boy club at its finest.
Thank Y’all so much for using the term “ Violate..violated and violation”… these are proper words to describe the actions against an innocent child,!! IMO When the term “ abuse” is used, it carries the connotation of hitting, beating..etc. what he did was a v i o l a t i o n of a child’s soul….permanently! Yes pray. Yes forgive, however, when these lines are crossed and these kinds of treasures are stolen, they cannot be replaced.
#lockhimup #shewas12
We are to undo the heavy burdens and by the Holy Spirit break the chains of spiritual bondage …..THIS is the fast that God has called us to!
His career pastoring is OVER
I never had a good feeling about either Robert Morris or James Robinson. I thought Robert Morris was arrogant and James Robinson manipulative especially when it came to looking for money from the flock. Only true repentance can bring any kind of healing. Also how much money is enough for any of them.
We DON'T know what arrangement the Parent's were involved in thus can't make assumptions. Why won't Cindy tell us the full story as it relates to her parents, Morris, and the Elders?
she has mentioned her father's reaction......
@@ImForgivenToo She didn’t tell us when her parents found out and what action they took.
This doesn't make sense at...
What I hear is a cry for 50k she didn't receive... Thixo kunzima eMelika
Stupid
Cindy tried to sue him on 2005
GOD is judging
Joni lamb’s number will come up later
I hope so. Morris married her children.
What happened to her?
I would like to hear from James Roberson!!😮
Boy, me too! Bet there will be crickets though ...
Poppa and Momma Cee posted proof above that James Robison is not involved. Please read it!
The board of that church was protecting their own shares in the church funds seems like.
Judgement will begin in the house of the Lord.
Amen
What does that say about the so-called leaders he was spirituality advising? Wake up, people.
You MUST realize
This was about money
Gateway makes huge money
Look at how they live
Morris lives in an estate.
They all have hands in the pockets of Gateway
Make no mistake.
Disgusting.
Money over righteousness.
BINGO Still is about $$$$$$