The Roman’s were invaders and then rulers of Britain, but after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the control and culture of the Romans remained strongest in Wales and in the Southern part of the Isles due to their access to the sea and the mainland. The North of Londonium was under tenuous control which is why Hadrian built his wall to cement the borders for the Romans control
@@samuraijosh1595 The Britons integrated in the Roman Empire and had great respect for its culture. When the Empire collapsed, the rulers of Britain styled themselves as Roman Emperors or "Princeps" which is why Wales is a principality to this day. England was invaded by Germanic tribes like Saxons and Angles who established several Kingdoms there, but the Welsh Britons were never conquered so they kept their Roman culture. They had Roman names and their respect for Rome. That is why they refer to King Arthur by his Latin name, Artorius
If you guys are confused about how Prince Canute became the successor to the English throne, I think it is better to just read the history of the Anglo-Saxons and The Kingdom of Denmark in the 11th century. Because what is told in the anime is based on a real history. Well simply put, the Danish at that time wanted to rule Britain island, and the Anglo-Saxon (England) king fled to what we know today as France. Because the English throne was vacant after the king fled, King Sweyn of Denmark wanted to put one of his sons to be king of England and put England as part of the Kingdom of Denmark. So yeah, King Sweyn and his two sons Canute and his older brother were Danish. They weren't English😌
they SHOULD NOT read any of that before watching the show because Vinland saga is very heavily based off of true events and a LOT of the plot will be spoiled.
King Sweyn made himself the King of England but he died soon after under mysterious circumstances, and since Cnut was in England at the time he was able to take control of his father's army and declare himself King of England as a subordinate to his brother Harald who became the King of Denmark
"Can't believe this is Canute" and now we all mean it in a total different way. His character development still leaves me speechless, he's definitely one my favorites !
Episode 14 will hit differently. It made me question why i fervently follow Thorfinn and Askeladd and pretend as if they're heroes just because they're the main characters 😵 It made me realize, oh damn this show isn't messing around.
You have to consider the time this took place. It was normal to wipe out your enemies. The Danes had no reason to sacrifice themeselves so the Welsh could live.
@@JS-kb4bkdoesn't make it any better, much less moral and ethical. It is important to note that there were still people out there who didn't take part in such foul acts. The point is just to acknowledge the fact that the men we are following in the story aren't good or righteous people.
This is the point when it becomes a little political and as one of you said it 'boring' to some. Almost no battles, a lot of marching around and dialogues. But it's kinda interesting actually. Probably another clue about this show's true nature: a seinen series.
I like to think of it as reading a novel, especially season 2. Slow but sublime character interactions/development and very rewarding towards the climaxes.
People talk a lot about the character development in this show and it is amazing, but to me what stands out is the themes which would not be possible without the characters. not many shows actually have interesting themes and present them in ways that allow you to come to your own conclusion. the themes surround ethics and while the author is definitely trying to show you his opinions, there are still many realistically written characters all with there own morals. that's why people talk of the shows "grey" morality, because the show is very realistic and ethics in real life aren't so objective. this show has given me much perspective and has changed me as a person and I wish to be stronger and kinder.
@@CobGobblin very well said, in contrast, how do you feel about AoT? Mind u I haven't read the manga but I do prefer the thematical approach in vinland
The super cool thing about this show is if you took a European History class in college, you already know how Canute's story plays out. This show is something else.
Maybe for like the first 12 episodes 😅😆 But most who have become averted to it come back. And build a whole new appreciation for it. Reasonably so!! ☺️
For those who don't know, the legend of Artorius that Askeladd keeps bringing up, is basically just King Arthur from Arthurian Legend. Hence that shot with the sword in the stone.
Canute is tasked with taking over England. He is the son of king sweyn who is the king of Denmark. He’s not the heir to Denmark since he has an older brother, so he will get England if he conquers all of it.
The 2nd half of the season is what really made me respect the show. Initially I thought it was just a revenge plot with good animation so I didn't understand the hype. But holy the way they tie everything together by the end is awesome.
Hmm, their view on the pace these past two episodes doesn't bode well for season 2. I hope someone informs them about the nature of the show, because it's not supposed to be an action fiesta.
I will say, this part of season 1 is a lot more emotionally dry than anything that happens in season 2, especially for a first time viewer. at this point Thorfinn is taking a back seat as the main character, and he's still in angry mode all the time... his character has been very static and reactionary, which is fine... it's the point of this part of the story. but that means we have to really lean on Askeladd for a lot of the character intrigue, and Askeladd is getting embroiled in some complex political machinations. until we understand the practical consequences of the things they're talking about, it's really just a bunch of jargon, with little emotional investment... especially because Canute can be frustrating as the reluctant lynch pin to this whole situation. which is not to say that these episodes are bad... far from it. I just don't think they're comparable to season 2, where even just seeing Thorfinn existing on screen can be an emotional gut punch depending on the state of him at any given time.
@@kamuyking551 very well said. In contrast, how do u feel about AoT? Mind u I haven't read the manga but I do prefer the thematical approach in vinland
@@jjthomson2815 AoT is a really strange case for me, because like... I was one of those people who struggled to get back into the show after there was such a large gap between the first and second seasons (damned ADHD) and then when I finally got back to it, I watched up through... maybe the end of the third season? but I think I got busy, paused for too long, forgot where I was, and didn't have the stamina for the kind of rewatch that it'd really take to continue understanding the more political side of the story. I think I prefer Vinland Saga's approach too though. from everything I remember of AoT, it leads you along early with a lot of shocking reveals, which are stunningly presented, but once you know what to expect, a rewatch seems like it moves weirdly slowly? because all the setup and build up that was suspenseful when you wanted answers tends to drag when you already know them. by contrast, I'm rewatching Vinland Saga with a friend right now, and I'm picking up on way more of the support and groundwork for the themes in the early story, because certain character actions make way more sense once you understand their complete set of motivations. and the narrative also presents a lot of scenes that are just completely emotionally investing all on their own, regardless of how many times you see them. like, the part where Ylva learns that Thors is dead and Thorfinn is missing, and just throws herself into work mode until her mom finally forces her to slow down, and that's when she cries? that part will probably always affect me, no matter when I see it, because that's a very real way that people can sometimes react to grief, especially when they know that they aren't at liberty to fully break down. and there are so many little things like that... the story can put these characters through the ringer, but I never feel like the intent is to be mean to them, or hurt the audience. the story has a very distinct goal that it's trying to achieve, and it's a very kind one. and I'm not saying AoT doesn't have it's moments... but after a certain point, I started getting exhausted, because it felt like the characters were only written to suffer as much as possible, and it didn't feel like there was enough warmth and understanding between them to balance it out. but that's just a matter of my own personal taste... I don't want it to come off like I'm disparaging AoT or the people who really enjoy it. it's just kind of tough for me to stay with it, and nowadays I don't even remember what part of the story I left off at.😓
3:33 He was talking about their armour as well as the swords (which they focused on with that hilt shot). Combine these clues with the name and the mystery is solved. They are romans
Their comments on how "slow" these where make me nervous...hope they can keep an open mind. For those of us who know what I mean. Manga readers even more.
@@WoWGirl6 Yeah...hopefully more keep being enlightened and changed by this story/Thorfin. S2 was amazing. what will be S3 (Baltic Sea War Arc) is even better. Wish the manga would release more chapters instead of 1 a month
Tbh I don’t think they fit for a seinen genre anime based on previous reactions and preference of animes. As much as they like Vinland Saga, I do believe they are more into shounen battle/action than characters development or heavy plots. But as someone who loves Vinland Saga so much it’s enough for me to know they appreciate this masterpiece and give it a try (at least once in lifetime)
man... showing that shot of Thors right before Askeladd starts talking about the legend of Artorius returning from Avalon to the west... that part absolutely kills me. [SPOILERS AHEAD FOR LATE SEASON 1] basically, it feels like the legend of Artorius, this comforting story that Askeladd's mother told to him in his childhood, might be the last pure thing that Askeladd believes in. but his nihilism runs so deep because he basically assumes that he's too ruined for the legend to have anything to do with him. and Avalon in the legend seems to function so similarly to Vinland... this idea of a peaceful place, untouched by the horrors of the world. a concept that even people who live surrounded by violence can hold in their mind as a comforting ideal. but to Askeladd, he and his men render the world into hell wherever they go... they bring it with them. they are not fit to enter paradise... if they were allowed in, it wouldn't be paradise anymore. but thinking back to the fourth episode, right before Thors died... Askeladd asked him to lead them. and while he played it off as a joke at the time, for a long moment there, he was serious. it was as though he could almost believe that he'd found Artorius, the fabled hero from the legend, standing right in front of him. but his cynicism causes him to betray that last pure belief, and it only hurts worse to see Thors, noble in his death, leaving the world behind with only the wicked left in it. what's really interesting to me, is that Askeladd eventually dies very similarly to Thors. in the same way that Thors was determined to make sure that everyone on his ships lived, as well as everyone in Askeladd's crew... Askeladd is determined to save the people of Wales. and for the sake of that cause... for the protection of the people they really care about... both of these men choose to die. in the end, these are the heroic qualities that define Artorius as a legendary concept. this is how you invoke the image of Artorius. Askeladd had already disqualified himself from such an association a long time ago, and continued to commit crime after crime throughout his life, owing a heavier and heavier debt to karma, and even killing Thors, who could've been the exact legend he'd been hoping for... but in the end, if Askeladd really wants something, then the only option is to genuinely strive for it. this was always true.
I guarantee that Thors commited far more crimes than Askeladd. Thors pillaged villages and took part in mass murders, rapes, theft etc for respect and wealth. Only stopped once he got married and fled
regardless, none of that is mutually exclusive to Askeladd identifying Thors as this archetype at the specific time when he met him. and it isn't mutually exclusive to Thors being a genuinely better person than Askeladd, in terms of their values in the moment, by the time the two end up facing each other. Thors had to develop from the Troll of Jom into a better person... we see him at the end of that process because that's what's relevant to the story. if anything, Thors is living proof that none are beyond the potential for redemption. no, he didn't start this way. my point is that Askeladd wasn't beyond redemption either... he'd just long since given up on trying. and besides that, on a technical level, we don't actually have a complete factual understanding of everything Thors did while in the Jomsviking, one way or another. that group of warriors is simultaneously more ruthless and more principled than Askeladd's pirate crew, but even within their ranks, there's variation when it comes to individual members' level of integrity. Floki orders an assassination on Thors despite their leader legitimately wanting Thors to come back and fight... clearly each person that makes up the Jomsviking interacts with the role in their own way. this isn't to try and spin Thors as more _or_ less noble than he really was... I just think that the story left a lot of the details of his life vague, because they're irrelevant right now. your more gruesome assumptions about his past aren't any more corroborated than a more optimistic person's. we can really only take the narrative at it's word. anything more is conjecture.
Wow thanks for the insight. I knew that Askeladd wanted Thors to lead them because he believed he found that King he's been waiting for but never even thought about why he never saw himself as being worthy of it. Really need to give Season 1 another rewatch.
@@Aceofspades928 honestly, I'm rewatching it now with a friend, and I've been picking up on a lot more details... like, knowing what I know now, there are so many scenes that hit different. like, directly after Thorfinn stows away with them, when they're in the village and Thorfinn is contemplating killing Askeladd in his sleep, it's interesting that Askeladd doesn't make a single move to stop him. this kid is six years old, and Askeladd has no assurances that he won't bring the sword down. he doesn't seem cocky either, like, he's not sneering about how he knew the kid wouldn't do it. or just leaving Thorfinn alive initially in general... we watch Askeladd's crew destroy this village so thoroughly, killing everyone, and only after that do we get the scene of Thorfinn with the sword. Askeladd could absolutely kill him. he has no qualms about mass slaughter, doesn't blink at killing or orphaning children, will burn people's homes to the ground and take all of their stuff, but he doesn't kill Thorfinn. I think in some ways, he kind of knows he deserves to be haunted. he won't let himself just die... but he's going to live with a constant shadow over him. it's so much more noticeable once you've seen everything.
To enjoy the most out of Winland Saga, you need a basic knowledge of the history of Britain and its neighbors. And did you notice? So Askeladd is related to Welsh and is also related to the famous Arthurian legend. Ah, this is where the story gets more and more interesting! Enjoy!! *King Sweyn and Prince Canute are Danish royalty. England at that time was not yet entirely ruled by a single royal family. The Danish royal family wants to invade England and become King of England. England has already almost lost the war. So King Sweyn becomes the ruler of England.
Jackson I can`t get over your voice !! It`s calming. You need to be a voiceactor or something. I`m also very happy about your vinland uploads, these are currently my fav. from yours :)
After finishing s1 today i can say i truly dont remember when was the last time i was so impressed and interested by a charachter like i am with Askeladd
@@christianjunhoffman9142 oh come on now being abke to spot romans from the ship is a bit too history nerdy. the attire with the classic hook-looking thingy wrapping the red cloth around the body shoudve been a better giveaway
He has watched the show before, so even if he doesn’t remember everything off the top of his head, he’ll start to remember more and more as he watches.
Thorfinn's story has been halted by his father's death, and the only way it can begin again is with Askeladd. In my opinion this is why Thorfinn stops being the main focus of the show for now. Even though these episodes are slower, they are not lacking in substance and atmosphere and the greatest character moments in the show are still yet to come! I'm glad you guys took a chance and are enjoying it.
People talk a lot about the character development in this show and it is amazing, but to me what stands out is the themes which would not be possible without the characters. not many shows actually have interesting themes and present them in ways that allow you to come to your own conclusion. the themes surround ethics and while the author is definitely trying to show you his opinions, there are still many realistically written characters all with there own morals. that's why people talk of the shows "grey" morality, because the show is very realistic and ethics in real life aren't so objective. this show has given me much perspective and has changed me as a person and I wish to be stronger and kinder.
I'm interested to see their reactions for Season 2. If they are expecting shonen-esque arc, they would be disappointed. But if they are open to seeing internal character development, they're in for a treat.
boring means dull... so i suppose something interesting can't be boring at the same time. i do get what brigg meant though. ☺️ hmm. vinland saga isn't always going to be action-packed. i love the fighting scenes but what makes this story epic lies in the story-telling, combined with the dialogues, historical references, and the tension that comes from the "slowness" and "quieter" scenes. at least that's what it is for me. ☺️
OMG. the story is based off of true history to the point that many characters, battles, and events really happened. Thorkell wants the prince because whoever has him has leverage over Denmark, and Thorkell wants to fight Denmark but they retreated and he wants the biggest fight possible so he'll use Canute to become their main priority. England has a king current and his name is Edmund. King Sweyn is the king of Denmark and his sons are Canute and Harold. forget about the other Harold that's the king of Norway he is irrelevant to the story.
I think you'll all really, really enjoy Arslan Senki/The Heroic Legend of Arslan if you all like Vinland Saga so much. Even better visuals at times than Vinland Saga, based on persian history/folklore, grand scale LOTR-esque battles, compelling characters, and by the same mangaka/artist as Fullmetal Alchemist. Hopefully you can give it a try and we can see your reactions on the channel!
Guys. Great work... I thought I would not enjoy your content after AOT. But I'm glad you guys are watching Vinland Saga (.which is at THAT level with AOT) and Chainsaw Man. And remember...chainsaw man has different endings each episode, so some channels made reactions to the episodes and a.separate one to each ending. Good luck or whatever
Alright to summarize it. King Sweyn, Canute’s father, is the King of Denmark-Norway and he wants to conquer England. If and when Sweyn dies, his lands would be inherited by his sons. The eldest would inherit Denmark-Norway, and Canute being the second and youngest son, would inherit England if they successfully conquered it.
Hey great video as always, and great clean portuguese in the beginning of the vídeo, Im part of your brazilian audience. Salve salve, eu também falo português XD
England currently is being ruled by King Aethelred. He attacked the Viking establishments that are made under his father King Edgar. After aethelred it will be king Alfred who brought England together to defeat the Vikings and establish England as its own country. They want canute to be the King of the Danes. His father is the current Danish king. Hope this helps :)
Canutes dad is now the king England since the other one fled and so that makes him the prince of England and his dad the king so all of the smaller kingdoms will be taken and turned into territory due to them going to war with them
I wanna recommend 2 anime that you guys might really enjoy 1- 91 days 2- Boku dake ga Inai Machi They are both short anime but really good I think they’re the type of shows that you guys like
Doesn't take as long as you'd think on foot. The march from london to where they cross would have only been about 5-6 days. You history is correct, but also incorrect. If we take this story at face value with the known characters involved in England. Then Canute (Cnut) was born in 990. That would mean it is currently... I guess 1005-1010ish (I'm assuming Canute is somewhere between 15-20). England DID have a unified king by this point, the first was Aethlestan who was King from 924-927. Depending on when exactly this is all taking place in terms of specific months/years. The King of England is currently either Aethelred The Unready, who had been King since 978. King Sweyn is invading to take that title and become King of England himself. He is already King of Denmark.
Not related to the episode, but most of the characters are based on real historical people, including Thorfinn. Don't look him up though, spoilers. This includes all of the obvious ones like Canute and Leif Eriksson, but also the over-the-top characters like Thorkell the tall
Love the Roman stuff in this show, and how they are brought in. The first hint being askeladds Armour and sword is epic.
Askeladd and his Welsh allies are so badass in their Roman armors
why do the weslh in this anime wear roman attire? werent the romans invaders of welsh as well?
The Roman’s were invaders and then rulers of Britain, but after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, the control and culture of the Romans remained strongest in Wales and in the Southern part of the Isles due to their access to the sea and the mainland. The North of Londonium was under tenuous control which is why Hadrian built his wall to cement the borders for the Romans control
@@samuraijosh1595 The Britons integrated in the Roman Empire and had great respect for its culture.
When the Empire collapsed, the rulers of Britain styled themselves as Roman Emperors or "Princeps" which is why Wales is a principality to this day.
England was invaded by Germanic tribes like Saxons and Angles who established several Kingdoms there, but the Welsh Britons were never conquered so they kept their Roman culture. They had Roman names and their respect for Rome.
That is why they refer to King Arthur by his Latin name, Artorius
If you guys are confused about how Prince Canute became the successor to the English throne, I think it is better to just read the history of the Anglo-Saxons and The Kingdom of Denmark in the 11th century. Because what is told in the anime is based on a real history. Well simply put, the Danish at that time wanted to rule Britain island, and the Anglo-Saxon (England) king fled to what we know today as France. Because the English throne was vacant after the king fled, King Sweyn of Denmark wanted to put one of his sons to be king of England and put England as part of the Kingdom of Denmark.
So yeah, King Sweyn and his two sons Canute and his older brother were Danish. They weren't English😌
I don't think England ever had English kings, maybe 11th century was the last time. xD
@@Haplo-san lmao brutal.
@@Haplo-san true they never had English as their king. Even the Anglo-Saxons was originally from Nordic and Germanic land and not from Britain.
they SHOULD NOT read any of that before watching the show because Vinland saga is very heavily based off of true events and a LOT of the plot will be spoiled.
King Sweyn made himself the King of England but he died soon after under mysterious circumstances, and since Cnut was in England at the time he was able to take control of his father's army and declare himself King of England as a subordinate to his brother Harald who became the King of Denmark
"Can't believe this is Canute" and now we all mean it in a total different way.
His character development still leaves me speechless, he's definitely one my favorites !
Episode 14 will hit differently. It made me question why i fervently follow Thorfinn and Askeladd and pretend as if they're heroes just because they're the main characters 😵
It made me realize, oh damn this show isn't messing around.
She just wanted a ring.
You have to consider the time this took place. It was normal to wipe out your enemies. The Danes had no reason to sacrifice themeselves so the Welsh could live.
Wow thanks for the spoiler dude 👍
@@JS-kb4bkdoesn't make it any better, much less moral and ethical. It is important to note that there were still people out there who didn't take part in such foul acts. The point is just to acknowledge the fact that the men we are following in the story aren't good or righteous people.
This is the point when it becomes a little political and as one of you said it 'boring' to some. Almost no battles, a lot of marching around and dialogues. But it's kinda interesting actually. Probably another clue about this show's true nature: a seinen series.
I like to think of it as reading a novel, especially season 2. Slow but sublime character interactions/development and very rewarding towards the climaxes.
People talk a lot about the character development in this show and it is amazing, but to me what stands out is the themes which would not be possible without the characters. not many shows actually have interesting themes and present them in ways that allow you to come to your own conclusion. the themes surround ethics and while the author is definitely trying to show you his opinions, there are still many realistically written characters all with there own morals. that's why people talk of the shows "grey" morality, because the show is very realistic and ethics in real life aren't so objective. this show has given me much perspective and has changed me as a person and I wish to be stronger and kinder.
@@CobGobblin very well said, in contrast, how do you feel about AoT? Mind u I haven't read the manga but I do prefer the thematical approach in vinland
@@nischay4760very good way to put it
The super cool thing about this show is if you took a European History class in college, you already know how Canute's story plays out. This show is something else.
well then im glad i didnt. i want no spoilers even if it's literal history
I’m kinda worried they ain’t gonna be able to appreciate season 2
Maybe for like the first 12 episodes 😅😆 But most who have become averted to it come back. And build a whole new appreciation for it. Reasonably so!! ☺️
Carters going to love it fs
They can't appreciate good art
they will, they'll understand the context of season 2
@@WoWGirl6 I'm sure they will like most of the first half. I mean... Episodes 4, 7, 8, 9, and 12 are all very interesting and engaging.
For those who don't know, the legend of Artorius that Askeladd keeps bringing up, is basically just King Arthur from Arthurian Legend.
Hence that shot with the sword in the stone.
It literally is King Arther. Artorius is just the Latin name.
Canute is tasked with taking over England. He is the son of king sweyn who is the king of Denmark. He’s not the heir to Denmark since he has an older brother, so he will get England if he conquers all of it.
The 2nd half of the season is what really made me respect the show. Initially I thought it was just a revenge plot with good animation so I didn't understand the hype. But holy the way they tie everything together by the end is awesome.
This show goes deep. Excited to see you guys react to the next episode. I'd say episode 14 is one the best directed episode of the series.
Hmm, their view on the pace these past two episodes doesn't bode well for season 2. I hope someone informs them about the nature of the show, because it's not supposed to be an action fiesta.
i think if they make it to episode 18, they'll realise the nature of the show and watch it for what it is.
I will say, this part of season 1 is a lot more emotionally dry than anything that happens in season 2, especially for a first time viewer. at this point Thorfinn is taking a back seat as the main character, and he's still in angry mode all the time... his character has been very static and reactionary, which is fine... it's the point of this part of the story. but that means we have to really lean on Askeladd for a lot of the character intrigue, and Askeladd is getting embroiled in some complex political machinations. until we understand the practical consequences of the things they're talking about, it's really just a bunch of jargon, with little emotional investment... especially because Canute can be frustrating as the reluctant lynch pin to this whole situation.
which is not to say that these episodes are bad... far from it. I just don't think they're comparable to season 2, where even just seeing Thorfinn existing on screen can be an emotional gut punch depending on the state of him at any given time.
@@kamuyking551 very well said. In contrast, how do u feel about AoT? Mind u I haven't read the manga but I do prefer the thematical approach in vinland
@@jjthomson2815 AoT is a really strange case for me, because like... I was one of those people who struggled to get back into the show after there was such a large gap between the first and second seasons (damned ADHD) and then when I finally got back to it, I watched up through... maybe the end of the third season? but I think I got busy, paused for too long, forgot where I was, and didn't have the stamina for the kind of rewatch that it'd really take to continue understanding the more political side of the story.
I think I prefer Vinland Saga's approach too though. from everything I remember of AoT, it leads you along early with a lot of shocking reveals, which are stunningly presented, but once you know what to expect, a rewatch seems like it moves weirdly slowly? because all the setup and build up that was suspenseful when you wanted answers tends to drag when you already know them. by contrast, I'm rewatching Vinland Saga with a friend right now, and I'm picking up on way more of the support and groundwork for the themes in the early story, because certain character actions make way more sense once you understand their complete set of motivations. and the narrative also presents a lot of scenes that are just completely emotionally investing all on their own, regardless of how many times you see them. like, the part where Ylva learns that Thors is dead and Thorfinn is missing, and just throws herself into work mode until her mom finally forces her to slow down, and that's when she cries? that part will probably always affect me, no matter when I see it, because that's a very real way that people can sometimes react to grief, especially when they know that they aren't at liberty to fully break down. and there are so many little things like that... the story can put these characters through the ringer, but I never feel like the intent is to be mean to them, or hurt the audience. the story has a very distinct goal that it's trying to achieve, and it's a very kind one. and I'm not saying AoT doesn't have it's moments... but after a certain point, I started getting exhausted, because it felt like the characters were only written to suffer as much as possible, and it didn't feel like there was enough warmth and understanding between them to balance it out.
but that's just a matter of my own personal taste... I don't want it to come off like I'm disparaging AoT or the people who really enjoy it. it's just kind of tough for me to stay with it, and nowadays I don't even remember what part of the story I left off at.😓
Can't beleive he is same canute in season 2 😮
What a character development
He’s come a long way for sure
Yeah well kids grow up
3:33 He was talking about their armour as well as the swords (which they focused on with that hilt shot). Combine these clues with the name and the mystery is solved. They are romans
Their comments on how "slow" these where make me nervous...hope they can keep an open mind. For those of us who know what I mean. Manga readers even more.
Yeah fingers crossed. Often younger males get hyped and hung up on all the action.
@@WoWGirl6 Yeah...hopefully more keep being enlightened and changed by this story/Thorfin. S2 was amazing. what will be S3 (Baltic Sea War Arc) is even better. Wish the manga would release more chapters instead of 1 a month
@@CaRlOsUnDeAd S2 WAS amazing! It’s my favorite amongst the two seasons. S1 is revenge arc so it fills a certain niche for some people.
Tbh I don’t think they fit for a seinen genre anime based on previous reactions and preference of animes.
As much as they like Vinland Saga, I do believe they are more into shounen battle/action than characters development or heavy plots.
But as someone who loves Vinland Saga so much it’s enough for me to know they appreciate this masterpiece and give it a try (at least once in lifetime)
man... showing that shot of Thors right before Askeladd starts talking about the legend of Artorius returning from Avalon to the west... that part absolutely kills me.
[SPOILERS AHEAD FOR LATE SEASON 1]
basically, it feels like the legend of Artorius, this comforting story that Askeladd's mother told to him in his childhood, might be the last pure thing that Askeladd believes in. but his nihilism runs so deep because he basically assumes that he's too ruined for the legend to have anything to do with him. and Avalon in the legend seems to function so similarly to Vinland... this idea of a peaceful place, untouched by the horrors of the world. a concept that even people who live surrounded by violence can hold in their mind as a comforting ideal. but to Askeladd, he and his men render the world into hell wherever they go... they bring it with them. they are not fit to enter paradise... if they were allowed in, it wouldn't be paradise anymore.
but thinking back to the fourth episode, right before Thors died... Askeladd asked him to lead them. and while he played it off as a joke at the time, for a long moment there, he was serious. it was as though he could almost believe that he'd found Artorius, the fabled hero from the legend, standing right in front of him. but his cynicism causes him to betray that last pure belief, and it only hurts worse to see Thors, noble in his death, leaving the world behind with only the wicked left in it.
what's really interesting to me, is that Askeladd eventually dies very similarly to Thors. in the same way that Thors was determined to make sure that everyone on his ships lived, as well as everyone in Askeladd's crew... Askeladd is determined to save the people of Wales. and for the sake of that cause... for the protection of the people they really care about... both of these men choose to die. in the end, these are the heroic qualities that define Artorius as a legendary concept. this is how you invoke the image of Artorius. Askeladd had already disqualified himself from such an association a long time ago, and continued to commit crime after crime throughout his life, owing a heavier and heavier debt to karma, and even killing Thors, who could've been the exact legend he'd been hoping for... but in the end, if Askeladd really wants something, then the only option is to genuinely strive for it. this was always true.
I guarantee that Thors commited far more crimes than Askeladd. Thors pillaged villages and took part in mass murders, rapes, theft etc for respect and wealth. Only stopped once he got married and fled
regardless, none of that is mutually exclusive to Askeladd identifying Thors as this archetype at the specific time when he met him. and it isn't mutually exclusive to Thors being a genuinely better person than Askeladd, in terms of their values in the moment, by the time the two end up facing each other. Thors had to develop from the Troll of Jom into a better person... we see him at the end of that process because that's what's relevant to the story. if anything, Thors is living proof that none are beyond the potential for redemption. no, he didn't start this way. my point is that Askeladd wasn't beyond redemption either... he'd just long since given up on trying.
and besides that, on a technical level, we don't actually have a complete factual understanding of everything Thors did while in the Jomsviking, one way or another. that group of warriors is simultaneously more ruthless and more principled than Askeladd's pirate crew, but even within their ranks, there's variation when it comes to individual members' level of integrity. Floki orders an assassination on Thors despite their leader legitimately wanting Thors to come back and fight... clearly each person that makes up the Jomsviking interacts with the role in their own way.
this isn't to try and spin Thors as more _or_ less noble than he really was... I just think that the story left a lot of the details of his life vague, because they're irrelevant right now. your more gruesome assumptions about his past aren't any more corroborated than a more optimistic person's. we can really only take the narrative at it's word. anything more is conjecture.
Wow thanks for the insight. I knew that Askeladd wanted Thors to lead them because he believed he found that King he's been waiting for but never even thought about why he never saw himself as being worthy of it. Really need to give Season 1 another rewatch.
@@Aceofspades928 honestly, I'm rewatching it now with a friend, and I've been picking up on a lot more details... like, knowing what I know now, there are so many scenes that hit different. like, directly after Thorfinn stows away with them, when they're in the village and Thorfinn is contemplating killing Askeladd in his sleep, it's interesting that Askeladd doesn't make a single move to stop him. this kid is six years old, and Askeladd has no assurances that he won't bring the sword down. he doesn't seem cocky either, like, he's not sneering about how he knew the kid wouldn't do it.
or just leaving Thorfinn alive initially in general... we watch Askeladd's crew destroy this village so thoroughly, killing everyone, and only after that do we get the scene of Thorfinn with the sword. Askeladd could absolutely kill him. he has no qualms about mass slaughter, doesn't blink at killing or orphaning children, will burn people's homes to the ground and take all of their stuff, but he doesn't kill Thorfinn.
I think in some ways, he kind of knows he deserves to be haunted. he won't let himself just die... but he's going to live with a constant shadow over him. it's so much more noticeable once you've seen everything.
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To enjoy the most out of Winland Saga, you need a basic knowledge of the history of Britain and its neighbors.
And did you notice? So Askeladd is related to Welsh and is also related to the famous Arthurian legend.
Ah, this is where the story gets more and more interesting! Enjoy!!
*King Sweyn and Prince Canute are Danish royalty.
England at that time was not yet entirely ruled by a single royal family. The Danish royal family wants to invade England and become King of England.
England has already almost lost the war. So King Sweyn becomes the ruler of England.
There's no wandering you find it boring when you even don't have any idea who's who and where's where. 👍
Jackson I can`t get over your voice !! It`s calming. You need to be a voiceactor or something. I`m also very happy about your vinland uploads, these are currently my fav. from yours :)
After finishing s1 today i can say i truly dont remember when was the last time i was so impressed and interested by a charachter like i am with Askeladd
I just finished season 2 and Canute changes....SO MUCH.
Cannot believe they didn't notice gratiannus is roman. Like cmon. The armor? And the name is pretty obvious
Yeah thats what im saying haha
Hahaha I know!! I was like, come on! 😂
@@WoWGirl6 not to mention plus their ship is pretty roman. 😂
@@christianjunhoffman9142 oh come on now being abke to spot romans from the ship is a bit too history nerdy. the attire with the classic hook-looking thingy wrapping the red cloth around the body shoudve been a better giveaway
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Jackson is the least confused of them lol.
Jackson is somewhat versed in history.
He has watched the show before, so even if he doesn’t remember everything off the top of his head, he’ll start to remember more and more as he watches.
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I always got goosebumps when Grantius Introduced
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Thorfinn's story has been halted by his father's death, and the only way it can begin again is with Askeladd. In my opinion this is why Thorfinn stops being the main focus of the show for now. Even though these episodes are slower, they are not lacking in substance and atmosphere and the greatest character moments in the show are still yet to come! I'm glad you guys took a chance and are enjoying it.
People talk a lot about the character development in this show and it is amazing, but to me what stands out is the themes which would not be possible without the characters. not many shows actually have interesting themes and present them in ways that allow you to come to your own conclusion. the themes surround ethics and while the author is definitely trying to show you his opinions, there are still many realistically written characters all with there own morals. that's why people talk of the shows "grey" morality, because the show is very realistic and ethics in real life aren't so objective. this show has given me much perspective and has changed me as a person and I wish to be stronger and kinder.
Hail king Floch!
Canute and floch share the same VA
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The intro's to these videos have gotten better and better. I would listen to Brig read the labels off of can's all day.
When watching, I immediately recognized that Canute shares the same voice actor as Floch.
Episode 12-13: of appreciating I have no enemies.
I'm interested to see their reactions for Season 2. If they are expecting shonen-esque arc, they would be disappointed. But if they are open to seeing internal character development, they're in for a treat.
i love how confused they were for a minute there 😂😂😂
Canute's VA is King Floch from AoT, love that VA
eu fiquei realmente surpreso pela abertura do vídeo ter um guaraná e o cara falar português
não estava esperando isso lol
this is so cool seeing ppl still in szn 1 after watching szn 2
boring means dull... so i suppose something interesting can't be boring at the same time. i do get what brigg meant though. ☺️ hmm. vinland saga isn't always going to be action-packed. i love the fighting scenes but what makes this story epic lies in the story-telling, combined with the dialogues, historical references, and the tension that comes from the "slowness" and "quieter" scenes. at least that's what it is for me. ☺️
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OMG. the story is based off of true history to the point that many characters, battles, and events really happened. Thorkell wants the prince because whoever has him has leverage over Denmark, and Thorkell wants to fight Denmark but they retreated and he wants the biggest fight possible so he'll use Canute to become their main priority. England has a king current and his name is Edmund. King Sweyn is the king of Denmark and his sons are Canute and Harold. forget about the other Harold that's the king of Norway he is irrelevant to the story.
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I think you'll all really, really enjoy Arslan Senki/The Heroic Legend of Arslan if you all like Vinland Saga so much. Even better visuals at times than Vinland Saga, based on persian history/folklore, grand scale LOTR-esque battles, compelling characters, and by the same mangaka/artist as Fullmetal Alchemist. Hopefully you can give it a try and we can see your reactions on the channel!
Great time to remember Askeladd swore on his ancestor Artorious when promising Thors no one would be hurt.
Drown is one of the best anime songs ever
the confusion lol...jack's voice is so pleasing
Ele fala português bem, já da pra vir pro Brasil!! 🇧🇷
já vou!
Brig, obrigado por esse português tão fofinho do inicio 😂❤
Guys. Great work... I thought I would not enjoy your content after AOT. But I'm glad you guys are watching Vinland Saga (.which is at THAT level with AOT) and Chainsaw Man.
And remember...chainsaw man has different endings each episode, so some channels made reactions to the episodes and a.separate one to each ending. Good luck or whatever
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First intro of season 1 is one of the best anime intros ever imo i still missed it even in season 2 lmao
next episode you guys are going to be shocked
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If they think this is considered "boring", I wonder how they'll feel about s2.
Alright to summarize it. King Sweyn, Canute’s father, is the King of Denmark-Norway and he wants to conquer England.
If and when Sweyn dies, his lands would be inherited by his sons. The eldest would inherit Denmark-Norway, and Canute being the second and youngest son, would inherit England if they successfully conquered it.
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Hey great video as always, and great clean portuguese in the beginning of the vídeo, Im part of your brazilian audience. Salve salve, eu também falo português XD
Lol middle part was funny w everyone confused
2:59 this ost so fire. edit: i continued a few seconds and you guys said it too haha. another edit: especially this part bro 3:21
シーズン1が終わろうとしてる…
シーズン２のリアクションも楽しみです！
個人的にはシーズン2好きだけど、退屈だってなるのかなぁ…
omg cant wait for you to see whats gonna happen next season
Dude in the purple shirt has blue collar work build
England currently is being ruled by King Aethelred. He attacked the Viking establishments that are made under his father King Edgar. After aethelred it will be king Alfred who brought England together to defeat the Vikings and establish England as its own country. They want canute to be the King of the Danes. His father is the current Danish king. Hope this helps :)
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So Brigg is Argentinian... I thought you guys were like Irish (American).
I wish! I just lived in Argentina for a few years is all.
I'm not the only one who loves this (feminine) Сanute more than the current one.
Guaraná out of nowhere lol 🇧🇷
It’s so tasty
@@brigandrus Indeed, it's so good it's addicting lol Don't ever drink guaraná tea, you won't be able to stop.
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Brigg is argentinian?? Math aint mathing. I need to see his lineage
Haha nahh I just lived there for a few years is all
Canutes dad is now the king England since the other one fled and so that makes him the prince of England and his dad the king so all of the smaller kingdoms will be taken and turned into territory due to them going to war with them
if you think this is boring for the amount of dialogue compared to action get ready for season 2
"The slowest episode" 😀😀😂
goated character honestly
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Aren't you guys doing the reaction to the openings and endings of JJk?
Yes we will!
Fun ep
can't wait for waht happen next episode
I wanna recommend 2 anime that you guys might really enjoy
1- 91 days
2- Boku dake ga Inai Machi
They are both short anime but really good I think they’re the type of shows that you guys like
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I still don’t know why Americans always confuse the words “ancestor” and “descendant”. They don’t even sound similar.
"I´m sick of Canute". Oh boy.
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enjoying this series.Can you be a little faster with your uploads?
don't worry Canute gets some fat character development. XDD
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Doesn't take as long as you'd think on foot. The march from london to where they cross would have only been about 5-6 days.
You history is correct, but also incorrect. If we take this story at face value with the known characters involved in England. Then Canute (Cnut) was born in 990. That would mean it is currently... I guess 1005-1010ish (I'm assuming Canute is somewhere between 15-20). England DID have a unified king by this point, the first was Aethlestan who was King from 924-927.
Depending on when exactly this is all taking place in terms of specific months/years. The King of England is currently either Aethelred The Unready, who had been King since 978. King Sweyn is invading to take that title and become King of England himself. He is already King of Denmark.
Not related to the episode, but most of the characters are based on real historical people, including Thorfinn. Don't look him up though, spoilers.
This includes all of the obvious ones like Canute and Leif Eriksson, but also the over-the-top characters like Thorkell the tall
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Wait till u see Canute in s2.
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