We are extremely honored to be featured in your video, thank you for the thoughtful and honest review. Harambe System is a family-owned small company and this exposure helps a lot. I want to offer some additional clarifications to some of the points from the video: The K Bar is featured in this video. Also mentioned briefly is our smaller and lighter T Bar, ideal for travel. The T Bar is about 3 lbs, which is actually about the same weight as the X3 Bar, and is 100% stainless steel. The T Bar takes 80% less stainless steel to make than the K Bar, that’s why it’s cheaper. Harambe System’s rope is not paracord. Our high-tech rope has many strands of strengthened and pre-stretched UHMWpe resulting in a rope with a tensile strength of 4500 lbs. Paracord only has a tensile strength of 550 lbs and is made out of nylon. And lastly, all of our systems have a safe working load of 1000 lbs, which exceeds anything currently on the market. Khalid Bou-Rabee, Founder and President of Harambe System
@C Holiday Yes, 1100 paracord is stronger than the usual 550 paracord, but they are still both made out of nylon. Also, I understand it's confusing, but tensile strength and safe working load mean very different things: Tensile strength is the force required to break something, whereas safe working load is the maximum safe force that something can take without any fear of breaking. Paracord (even 1100) generally has a safe working load of less than 220 lbs. We were conservative with our safe working load.
@@harambesystem I think it's really great how many free workout short clips you put on Instagram. Even freezing in Central Park! I think viewers should also be aware that resistance band training really requires noting more than the bands, an inexpensive anchor, and gloves. I have Undersun bands, and follow James Grage free workout videos. I'm 60 - lean and mean, and zero joint damage. Good luck to all.
I've been working out for approximately 50 years. The gimmicks in the fitness industry are non stop. It's always about the money. I discovered resistance bands approximately 5 years ago. I wish that would of happened 40 years ago. I've never felt better, and get more out of my workouts than ever before. All you need are quality bands (there are 2 types, loops and ones attached to a handle at each end) and a door anchor. That can be bought online, just get quality ones, lots of garbage bands being sold. You can perform every exercise that's done in a regular gym and more. Anything else is just a gimmick. These are truly portable, take up very little space, super lightweight, and inexpensive. No more costly equipment, gym fees, gym bs, time to travel to a gym, fuel costs and on and on. Best discovery I have ever made.
Could not agree more. I also switched from free weights to bands. These bar systems are not needed, and the prices of these systems is ridiculous. I could make a platform and bar system for far less than what they charge. You do have to get good bands. With that said, there are many choices on that front and some of these companies charge far more than others for bands that are equal in quality. To my understanding, most of them come from Sri Lanka to begin with.
@grimer1805 If you are just getting started, I recommend UnderSun Fitness, Rubber Banditz, Clench. Rubber Banditz have a lifetime warranty on their bands. They are the only company I know of that does so. As far as a plate goes, I would say Clench. With that said, if you are just getting started, I would bypass the plate at first. It is not an absolute need, and you just want to get used to using the bands at first. Clench makes a lot of great accessories for the bands such as plates, bars, handles, ankle strap attachments for doing leg extensions, etc. I recommend just getting the bands first and getting started because then you will get a feel for what accessories you may or may not want. I am not a fan of X3 as you pretty much have to get their whole system, and everything they sell is massively overpriced.
@@grimer1805 For the same reasons I mentioned above. Something that I can add is that I would of avoided the injuries I got from working out with traditional gym equipment.
I have X3 and the band I use the most is pretty shredded at this point because it often catches a sharp edge of the plate. I wish the super smart founder, who got his PhD from an uncredited institution, had considered solutions for this.
I've gotten great results from the X3 system, using it for about 2 years. Convenient, fast, and gives a good full-body workout, but, yeah, especially the band I use for the plate exercises, I have used it a lot and the base does shred it. I went and bought a replacement, but in all that time, using it almost daily for 2 years, I haven't had to replace that band. It's unsightly, but it's still providing essentially the same resistance as it did the day it arrived. It's unsightly, but it hasn't compromised my workouts. I'm thinking of finding a good tough tape to apply to the edges to prevent further damage. And, yeah, I agree that this is something they should have handled in a version-2 design. They did come up with a V2 band that supposedly resists shredding better, but that seems like the wrong side of the equation to address.
Nice review. I own both systems and prefer the Harambe one in most cases. I do use the X3 system when traveling by plane as the equipment in its case fits in my suitcase. One thing you didn't talk about is the rotational difference of the ends of each bar. The Harambe's ends rotate individually while the X3's bar has both ends rotating together because the ends are connected by a long bar inside. Sometimes the X3 has some weird torque placed on the hands because of this and some people have actually lost their grip on the bar and hurt themselves. It looks like you have the second generation of the X3 plastic plate which is a little thicker than the first generation one which I have. Mine is thin and will slightly bend with heavier bands. The Harambe plate is in a different league than any of the X3 plates. Harambe's T bar is about the same length as X3's newer long bar.
Just received a Harambe K Bundle. It's expensive and I wonder about my sanity spending this much on a band system. However, do I feel ripped-off? No WAY! Talk about overbuilt! WOW! Exceeds my expectations incredibly. Quick shipping time. Found a discount code and they threw-in the amazing "travel" bag free. Said the platform pouch was made too small so rather than toss it they hoped I could find use for it. It's tight but platform fits. It isn't a travel system. Definitely heavy-duty. Did legs today. System is for real.
I have been using Undersun bands for the past 5 years. No bars or plates. Either travel 6 months in a year. It's easy to pack and very reasonably priced.
@@stevenwright9859 Have a set they're great. Use Bodylastics for stand alone band work and travel. Like their tube/clip style and for more years than I can remember.
Good review. I have the x3 system and I’m happy with it. I’m a over the road trucker and I can do the complete program in my truck without any problems. I’m also 62 years old and bands are easier on my joints than free weights. I’m going to keep doing it. It’s hard to do exercises in the winter time in a truck but yes x3 makes it possible.
Mother of god. To think that 80,000lb truck barreling at me on the highway might have a driver who's holding the wheel with one knee while he does his X3 band workouts. Won't somebody please think of the children?
Regarding band technology: there can be a lot to the chemistry and manufacturing of polymer materials. The question is whether we can find hard data supporting their claims. Personally, I'd love to see Garage Gym Reviews do deep dives on the materials and manufacturing of different products. It would take your reviews to the next level.
100% agree, Bought a set of bends from Elite FTS 10 years ago and I ve been abusing the hell of them,I ordered a pair recently and out of them box they feel cheap even the way the strech is not the same,For sure there is some tech and chemistry along with the materials they use to make them as you mention
I think the results would be underwhelming, we've entered an age of ever-increasing corner-cutting and cost-reduction to fatten margins. The biggest insight would be how lucrative gym equipment is with lower quality than a generation ago, which probably wouldn't help the channel get sponsors.
@@salazteca1 "I ordered a pair recently and out of the box the feel cheap". Also from EliteFTS, or??? Honestly, was just looking into ordered their "Short Band Pack" to try with some resistance band deadlifts (no free weights; just bands), or some of their standard 41" bands and doubling them over for some RDL's.....All I have is a shorter EZ-curl bar and and some rigged DB handles, hmmm. Might need a straight bar or maybe some PVC pipe (if the bands were the right texture....they're the slippery kind; not chalky or w/e).
Thank you for the information. I'm 65 yrs old & just started training at Osteo strong. X3 is the system that they are using, so to see a comparison on other options is GREAT.
I bought the X3 in Dec 2020 and have used it regularly since (6x weekly). I haven't had to replace any components, and the only thing that's worn out is the X3 logo on one or two of the bands. I definitely like traditional lifting, and will probably supplement with X3 once I've got the funds and space for a home gym, but I think it's been a good investment, if even for the portability alone. I feel I've also saved money, because I haven't felt I need a gym membership.
I've used the X3 for two years, and I found your review fair. I'd buy the X3 again, and I don't regret not being aware of the Harambe System at the time, because portability is a key attribute for me. Yet I agree with you that a home lifter probably won't go wrong with either. Good job; thanks!
Excellent Review. Very Fair. I own multiple sets of both. I started with the X3 and am now Using Harambe for the last 2 years. I prefer the Harambe after owning and using both.
@@joshsturgess3301 My guess is Harambe is probably more versatile with the longer bar, and it looks more professional than the X3 in my opinion. Also, the founder isn't an arrogant asshole like the X3 founder.
It just looks an all round better product. Back squats being possible with the way the band goes under the board and attaches to The cords looks way better/more comfortable and allows for better positioning for the squat. Also the longer bar is a must imo. Imagine being so full of c*** telling people that they only need the short bar (x3)… everyones body structure is different and many people only feel narrow grip presses in the tris/shoulders. Why not just let the customer choose the grip width. Oh but wait, after declaring the ling bar was useless and not needed, x3 then decided to make one 😂. If I was going to pull the trigger, I would definitely get the harambe. X3 is trying to convince people he has reinvented the wheel, when using a bar and bands together is no new invention and obviously can’t be patented which probably drives him crazy 😂
Crazy Expensive. I will make my Own. 800 for one and 599 for the other. I don't know what I missing here. Large Rubber Bands, standing plate, and a bar.
good review! although I wish you would have went into the actual lifting dynamics of both, harambe system is much more aligned with traditional weightlifting than X3, I have both systems with the old X3 platform and Harambe outperforms drastically.
I use resistance bands as a replacement for cables systems. Since I workout at home. I personally like the innstar bar better, because it fits my taller frame better. Also, I use a aerobic stepper as platform from replacement. It cheaper, and it never bent or broken under my resistance.
Hey, I ordered the same setup before I watched this review. The down side of innstar is that the hooks dont rotate. Am I right? I still wait for my bar
As a female I find the X3 system geared to men and not really thoughtful to women. There is no way I would be able to use the thick heavy weighted bands yet I would be forced to buy them. I made up my own system with what I found on amazon and what I had around the house. Much cheaper and it works! Thanks for your videos I always love to have your input on all things gym.
I love how the Harambe has pieces you can buy individually. One of the biggest barriers for me to use these systems is the price. When I can buy piecemeal, and good quality pieces at that, I can get to a point where I have exactly the system I need. Thank you for this extensive review!
Genuinely surprised it took this long for you to do this comparison! Had the X3 bar and sold it because I went more bodyweight stuff but the original X3 bar and platform were very nice pieces of equipment. If I were to buy into this type of training again, I'd go Harambe based off of what I learned here!
I am training with bands for two main reasons: 1. I have my kids running around me and try to do what I am doing when training, so weights will be dangerous. 2. Shipping cost to my country for wights is so expensive. Therefore, I really appreciate this review. Thanks, Coop and GGR, for showing me the way to go heavy with bands.
Coop, you brought up a good point about band length. I'm 6 feet tall but the 42 inch bands are too long for me to use in squats, and when even when I loop them over a bar it is tough to get them right for any kind of bench movement. I wish they sold more band lengths.
Check out Serious Steel 21" bands. Perfect deadlift length without any plate needed. Also works good for chest press on the shorter bar, if you use your body as the anchor.
This. I’m 6’1” and long-limbed and still feel the 41” rob me of a little tension on some exercises. I know there are band shortening tricks, but I’d prefer a shorter band. The founder of Harambe mentions he uses the 32” for bench and I’ve read of people also using them for deadlifts, so I’ll probably drop some money on those, but feel like they’ll be too short.
I’m 6’0” and have long arms. I double the black band for deadlifts and it’s a good pull. Granted you aren’t going as low as you would with a barbell and 45’s but I feel you get a good enough pull
@@Guitarjourney4life … Couldn’t you buy a few pieces of wood slabs, granite (or whatever) from homedepot and set that on the platform to prop yourself up, ultimately creating a deadlift setup that more closely mimics the traditional barbell deadlift starting point?
Enjoyed the video as I have implemented band training into my workouts and have to say that im quite impressed with the Clench Fitness bands along with their footplate and handles. You should give them a try and review them as well.
Honestly, Id just buy the Harambe base, Rogue or Elite FTS bands and then build a bar from a home store. Buy metal pipe at 1-1/4” or 28mm with pre threaded ends, pipe caps, and metal eyelets with a high load capacity and carabiners. Drill the pipe caps and bolt the eyelets in, then attach the carabiners. Finally wrap the pipe in athletic tape for grip. Maybe $50 in it and plenty strong.
I bought several Rogue bands and they were over $100 worth. Of course I bought two of each for changing resistance curves on squat, bench and deadlift.
Thanks for this thoughtful review! I've had the X3 for a few years now, and found it really helpful for me. I live in a condo without a ton of room, wasn't an experienced lifter, middle-aged, and knew that I wouldn't keep with it if I had to drive out to a gym every day. This kind of system helps with all those points. One thing you didn't bring up specifically, but it feels like a safer way to get started with serious strength training. While you still have to really respect it and keep good form, you also just don't have to worry about getting stuck at the bottom of a squat or bench press. It also feels a bit easier on the joints. One note on training plans. It seems that science (via folks like Mike Israetel) has been finding an important part of muscle growth is load while the muscle is in a stretched position. X3's plan wants you to hit failure at full ROM and then keep doing partials until you can't move the bar anymore. I think this is probably a good idea, since otherwise you'll stop before hitting the stretched position as hard as you would with regular weights. As far as bands go, I haven't tried the Harambe ones, but I do like the newer paraforce X3 ones a lot (which unfortunately you still can't buy with the initial system, only separately after). I think they may be synthetic rubber, and instead of being smooth and dusty, are very textured. They don't seem to wear as quickly and the narrower shape makes it easier to stack them. The force curve does seem to be different as well. It is hard to describe, but everyone that has used them seems to like them more than the normal bands. I actually sprang for the X3 "Force" bar a bit ago. It is probably silly, but having it count reps for you and seeing the poundage live at the bottom and top of the rep does seem to help my motivation. The force won't be as accurate for front squats (or split squats without their new belt, which I find a bit awkward) since the band is partially resting on your shoulders, but still can compare to previous attempts. I'm tempted to try rigging up something a little like what Harambe does for back squats, to allow it to use a doubled band, which would give a more accurate force readout I think. I agree that Harambe seems like the main serious competitor right now. The block is a nice idea to help get the bar in position and the ropes and spacers seem like a nice way to get fine-tuned progressive resistance besides just stacking bands. When I first got X3, I had to buy an easier band from somewhere else for a few exercises, whereas with Harambe you could probably just use longer slings to make it easier. The separate handles would probably be more comfortable for calf raises and shrugs. For anyone who wants to cheap out on a system like this, please be careful. Unless you're going extremely light, don't do deadlifts or squats with the band just under your feet (or using a plastic cutting board, which I saw in a random Amazon comment), or chest press without a bar or handles at all. You don't want random side forces on your ankles and wrists when you have a lot of resistance.
X3 makes a vibrating plate called a GH accelerator. It makes my calves feel a nice pump. I also like to lay on it and do scissor kicks or balancing yoga poses for a couple of minutes daily. I’m not sure if it is scientifically effective, but it’s my favorite part of using the X3.
X3 sucks. They have yet to produce a kit without problems. First two bars would grind the hooks down. The elite bar has weird rotational properties because the hooks are not independent. The metal plate shreds bands. The original plastic plate would bend and crack. Harambe zero problems. High quality craftsmanship. No comparison.
It's a shame about the x3 old school ground plate, it looks so nice! I have the gen 2 plate, metal, no rubber pads on the bottom and even more sharp edges than the gen3. I had to do some modding to get it to a state where I felt comfortable using it. Gen3 looks better for sure, but that Gen1 plate looks the best still, wish it was at least an optional thing.
Idk if they offer this any other time of year but around Christmas time the X3 Bar goes on sale from like $560.00 down to $399.00 which is way better deal obviously
I have had a few different home gym setups but for the most part I never liked using bands - just too much hassle trying to get them to have the right stretch that would provide the right resistance for the movement.
The X3 Bar is so incredibly simple to use, I don't know why anyone would use anything else. And the variable resistance of its high quality, layered latex bands allows much more force to be pushed or pulled at the top of an exercise than weights. And I don't know why anyone thinks the price is high. Not only is it so much less expensive than joining and traveling to a gym, and cleaner, it's super high quality and worth every penny. It was on back order 4 years ago, and I couldn't wait to get it. 4 years later, I still look forward to working out with it 6 days per week, 20-25 minutes per day. I used to go the gym because my son worked there and he helped me get started with weight training, but once I researched the X3 Bar and started working out with it, I can definitely tell that weights are inferior to the variable resistance of high quality, layered latex bands. With the carnivore way of eating and working out with the X3 Bar, at 69 years old, I am in the best health and shape of my adult life.
I can't understand either why people think these systems are expensive. Yes, it's a lot of money to pay up front, but once it's paid, that's it. At worst, you'd have to replace the bands from time to time. With a gym membership, travel costs and PT sessions, you have to keep paying month after month, and it soon adds up and surpasses what you'd have to pay for either of these. I'm thinking of buying one of these, perhaps the X3 as it's more portable. Have your bands become damaged from the sharp edges on the steel plate at all? Would you say this is suitable for near beginners? I've only had my gym membership and PT sessions for 8 months, and currently paying £300 per month, not including petrol costs - plenty of overtime at work.
@@jack.w.p.reynolds I don't get the too expensive issue either because of the reasons you brought up. When I purchased mine, it had a hard plastic footplate. I have no idea why they switched to a metal one. But even with it being hard plastic, I purchased a Band Barrier, opened it up flat, and attached it to the bottom of the footplate to protect the bands. As a result, after over 5 years of use six days per week, all my bands are fine. If it's not possible to attach a Band Barrier to the metal footplate, you could always just lay the footplate on the Band Barrier and put the bands under it. If you purchase one, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have mine. Cheers! By the way, sorry for the confusion. This reply is from a different account of wholearmor's.
@@BrotherScottsLookintheBook Perhaps they introduced the metal plate as it's more aesthetically pleasing, but the downside is the sharp edges. It also guarantees a return customer base and future sales as the bands will sustain damage eventually. Please can you provide a link for the band barrier. Haven't seen any improvement in my muscle mass going to the gym combined with a ketovore diet, so I will buy the X3 if I can be convinced I'll get better results. Are these kits something a near beginner like myself can use?
Not sure why Harambe wouldn't send the shorter bar as well for the inevitable X3 comparison....perhaps they know this is more of a barbell community. I have X3 (bar and platform only..there used to be a way to Google into not ordering the full system)...don't use it since I built the gym out, but I had to pull the trigger on the Harambe ground plate and cork blocks. Might be enough to inspire some supplemental band use.
I lifted free weights for 45 yrs, because of space and I'm close to 70, I do body weight and bands (loop) don't care for the tube style, i will say this my range of motion with bands and body weight is much improved and my joints don't hurt as much, haven't tried either brand your checking out, I have good workouts with rogue monster bands, and in 5 yrs have only had one snap, and even that was users mistake
I was looking into the X3 for a few weeks, thinking it was my best option as opposed to buying a gym membership. The way I see it, I could put that money into my nutrition after purchasing home gym equipment, which would pay for itself in the span of a year. Then miraculously, The Harambe System was advertised to me out of nowhere. I am so happy that it was, I have been looking into it and it just seems much superior to the X3 from what I have gathered. Plus the founder isn't a gaping asshole, unlike the founder of X3. $790 is an investment for your health. People spend more than that on frivolous things in a month, or a quarter of the year. You get what you pay for. To each his own. I believe it is worth it if you achieve the results you seek, you just have to put in the work.
Agree with all. I also invested in two ‘unitree pumps’ for my home gym. They aren’t cheap, but actually really good. I made my own diy x3 bar but I’ve been using the unitrees more. Digital/motor driven resistance actually feels awesome and difficult
Thank God for this is a superb comparison. Somebody had to do it, and somebody has. I blew off X3 two years ago for reason of the price. Fact is, I like my workouts as-is, have had great results, and realized I didn't need anything new i.e. why change? Coming back aboard the general discussion tonight because I just want an alternative in my lifting quiver, and your demonstration has put to bed a lot of questions I'd've had no other way, than extreme expense, to answer. Thank you again.
I have the old black X3 floor plate, but the Harambe floor plate, including their T plate seems to be of better quality. But I'd love to see a comparison between the Harambe floor plate and the Clench Fitness footplate, which also looks of way better quality than the X3 variants.
Just bought the harambe system it's more expensive but from using it seems vastly superior to the x3. You get what you pay for. I can do heavy squats and dead lifts and get a just as good if not better workout than traditional weights.
Thank you so much Coop! I've had my eye on this system for a while now but havent took the plunge cause I basically made my own kit but Ive always wondered your take on it vs the X3! Now I know it has the GGR stamp of approval!
Coop, can we expect to see a review of Titan's new open trap bar? Definitely curious to see how it stacks up against the "big boys" (i.e., Eleiko and Kabuki), but is probably more comparable to Rep's bar. Thanks!
I didn’t like the X3 bar. I felt very uncomfortable in several positions. Maybe I’m just weak, but the rows felt like they would snap my back. The deadlifts are great though. The chest press felt like they never hit my chest either. I’m only 6’1, but it felt like it was made for slightly shorter people.
Third parties on a well known auction site are selling X3 band protector inserts to fit on to the X3 platform to protect the bands against the sharp edges.
So many people have spec'd out how to build the bars and the and the platforms. Sure they're not perfect and I have NO IDEA how much less quality the $40 set of bands I bought are, but I've built this setup for about $130 and it is awesome. I definitely don't get the same feeling that I get from lifting heavy (I feel MUCH MORE sore for about 30 minutes following my workout and then nothing after) and so I don't use bands alone, but for anyone willing to invest a little more than a few months gym membership this is certainly an everyday alternative, or even a travel alternative.
Coop I love you but these things are wildly overpriced compared to what you could get with either traditional free weights or just a gym membership, quality of material or no $550 for the X3 set is bananas.
It's a lot of money to pay up front, but once it's paid, that's it, only needing to replace specific components from time to time. With a gym membership (mine is £60 per month), you have to keep paying every month, and that's not taking into account fuel for travel or additional costs such as PT sessions, which I also have. I'm starting to think something like one of these two systems would be a great purchase, especially if I can get either at a discounted price, but I need to look into it a bit more first.
Besides the price that has stopped me from buying the X3, the edge of the metal plate appears to be sharp and would cut the bands. Maybe I am wrong. It is just my observation of working out for many years.
The biggest problem with standalone bands is that their resistance is maxed at the diametrically opposite point of the workout of where you want that, at the top of a rep, rather than when you are in a deep extension at the bottom of a rep. But if I were, say, a trucker, looking to stock a vacation property, otherwise short on space, its certainly better than nothing.
Great video and review.....appreciate your opinion...Just one question, ever since I first watched this review I've looked for the alternative/custom ground plates mentioned in the video(timestamp-9:36) but could not find anything.....Is there any chance you could possibly post a link/a website to where someone could find a groundplates similar to either the X3 or Harambe System?
I find that the resistance steps between my bands is very high. Band A I can manage while band B I cannot. The only option is to stretch band A a lot for more resistance and hope it doesn't break. 😬
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Thanks. This was very informative! But what I really want to know is whether there is anything to the theory or science that the X3 inventor claims. Maybe you've talked about that in another video. I'll have to check.
I have a fully equipped home gym, but I do train with bands very often, because sometimes I'm doing my training at work (I work 12 hour shifts). Using a bar makes things much more comfortable, and since commercial band bars available in my country are flimsy and expensive, I've made my own using 3 short 1 inch steel pipes connected together and two climbing carabiners - it is rock solid and can withstand even my strongest band, which has a maximum resistance of 230 lbs, even if it's folded into two, like when I'm doing bench or floor press. I also have a barbell made from a single 6,5 ft 1 inch pipe in my gym and it can withstand 400 lbs. I've even noticed that using resistance bands helped me break my bench press plateau. It's definitely worth trying.
I have found that many hotels have pretty decent gyms. At the least, you get a good bench and a rack of DBs to 60 or 70. Often a functional trainer. Have seen some with Smith Machines. Often a rowing machine. Much prefer that to working with bands.
@@richardmather1906 yes maybe in the USA Canada UK....but not in the third world country where I travel, not in remote areas hundreds of miles from anything...
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@garagegymreviews You mention people making after market plates for the X3. However, I am having some trouble finding them. Could you point me in the right direction?
Good review. I like the ideas of bands with bars for space savings and such but I don’t think I would spend what these companies want for their systems
Just picked up the x3 on sale and for the price in comparison to the Harambee I think it wins. The bar to me is what sets it apart. I think the Harambee is a nice set up but very pricey for what you get plus I’m not too crazy about how the bands are changed out. I’m also really surprised at the quality of the x3 bands.
X3, the bar is too short and always have been.. also, the "fanboys" of X3 are just crazy stupid, sorry.. but they freakin are. Harambe System is a good product and at least have a better board & bar that makes you able to properly do exercises. And yes, X3 now have a longer bar, but only available for existing customers and only in the US. Weaksauce. Only thing though, is that I prefer the hooks at the end, that the X3 bar has, over the ropes from harambe. one more thing... Coop, they do mention what the bar can take.... load capacity = 1.000 pounds and 4500 lb tensile strength on the ropes, further more... it clearly states what specs the bar have... what are you talking about? So, that's that.
The not selling the bar to people except current system owners is just bizarre. I simply couldn't spend my money with a company like that. Coercing people into buying things they don't need or want? Sometimes you want the full meal and sometimes you just want the sandwich.
If you get high quality thick natural latex bands, with the kind of resistance that x3 offers, you'll likely spend about $200 on just the bands. If you DIY the bar and platform I'm not sure about the price. The platform is easy. Just buy a high quality cutting board, 4 hockey puck, and 8 1.5" screws. The bar is a little trickier. You need a way securing the bands to the bar without damaging them, and still have the ability to rotate. If you could attach something to either end of a pipe that would rotate and allow caribbeaners to attach to them, then that would work. It also has to be able to take the strain of the heavy bands.
Coop can you please compare Vitruvian trainer and Tonal to Wolfmate fitness products? Both have similar functions but it's a great deal cheaper for Wolfmate. Thanks
I have a squatz apollo board and two unitree pumps. I saw the wolfmate after I bought the apollo, but still glad I settled on the apollo as it has a remote switch to start/stop the resistance to stop you getting stuck under the bar. The apollo board also has manual control’s whereas the vitruvian is app only controlled. Digital resistance is awesome imo. I can’t comment on the tonal except it seems pointless drilling into a wall when something like the apollo board folds up and can be moved easily. The unitree pumps are also great, but you need a minimum of two , maybe 4 depending on your strength. If the wolfmate has a remote switch then awesome, as I think it’s cheaper than the apollo board. Customer service wasn’t great from squatz. I was put off the vitruvian as it’s only app controlled….🙏
Great review sir. I do mobile senior fitness and always looking for some new options for my members. Some of my clients are frail but others do quite well. I'm intrigued by both of these systems and your review was quite comprehensive. Do you know of any competitors to X3 or Harambe that are also pretty good? Thanks in advance!
I recently tried Harambe bands and am considering investing into the rest of the system. I’m 5’6” and considering either the T or K system. One thing though, the platform I’m currently using provides a 4” boost in height and gives good tension when setting up for an exercise. Do you think the loss in height from the Harambe platform will affect the quality of the workout much?
Have both but have moved more towards harambe because of the plate and the handles..... have you checked out clench fitness system and plate also have that and also very good to
Thank you so much for the information! I'm very interested in these systems. I read Jaquish's book because I'm looking for a way to reverse osteoporosis. I'm not that strong yet. Could you recommend bands that I could start with? I'm leaning towards the x3 because I travel.
Do you recommend harambe or x3? I bought a pair of powerblocks and a power tower recently and stumbled upon this video and am having second thoughts on those tools.. should I return them for this? Or keep them and supplement this into my workouts with them?
I think both system have there groups but it's x3 for me I've had great results with it Plus my band's have not ripped like most people complaining about maybe they are not doing excises properly! I also have band's from other companies and no snapping only one band I have has normal wear on it and it's wodfitters band, that I've been using on regular for two year's Plus so I say this too say both systems are Great but mine is the X3!!!!!!!
I guess people find a lot of value in these products and their communities but given all the copycats in the fitness industry I am surprised there aren't much cheaper knockoff products yet.
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We are extremely honored to be featured in your video, thank you for the thoughtful and honest review. Harambe System is a family-owned small company and this exposure helps a lot.
I want to offer some additional clarifications to some of the points from the video:
The K Bar is featured in this video. Also mentioned briefly is our smaller and lighter T Bar, ideal for travel. The T Bar is about 3 lbs, which is actually about the same weight as the X3 Bar, and is 100% stainless steel.
The T Bar takes 80% less stainless steel to make than the K Bar, that’s why it’s cheaper.
Harambe System’s rope is not paracord. Our high-tech rope has many strands of strengthened and pre-stretched UHMWpe resulting in a rope with a tensile strength of 4500 lbs. Paracord only has a tensile strength of 550 lbs and is made out of nylon.
And lastly, all of our systems have a safe working load of 1000 lbs, which exceeds anything currently on the market.
Khalid Bou-Rabee, Founder and President of Harambe System
@C Holiday Yes, 1100 paracord is stronger than the usual 550 paracord, but they are still both made out of nylon. Also, I understand it's confusing, but tensile strength and safe working load mean very different things: Tensile strength is the force required to break something, whereas safe working load is the maximum safe force that something can take without any fear of breaking. Paracord (even 1100) generally has a safe working load of less than 220 lbs. We were conservative with our safe working load.
really fair and balanced review
As founder and president I was expecting to see you give a special discount to Coops viewers 😊😊nothing like word of mouth advertising
@@harambesystem I think it's really great how many free workout short clips you put on Instagram. Even freezing in Central Park! I think viewers should also be aware that resistance band training really requires noting more than the bands, an inexpensive anchor, and gloves. I have Undersun bands, and follow James Grage free workout videos. I'm 60 - lean and mean, and zero joint damage. Good luck to all.
Diks out for my boy, RIP
I've been working out for approximately 50 years. The gimmicks in the fitness industry are non stop. It's always about the money. I discovered resistance bands approximately 5 years ago. I wish that would of happened 40 years ago. I've never felt better, and get more out of my workouts than ever before. All you need are quality bands (there are 2 types, loops and ones attached to a handle at each end) and a door anchor. That can be bought online, just get quality ones, lots of garbage bands being sold. You can perform every exercise that's done in a regular gym and more. Anything else is just a gimmick. These are truly portable, take up very little space, super lightweight, and inexpensive. No more costly equipment, gym fees, gym bs, time to travel to a gym, fuel costs and on and on. Best discovery I have ever made.
Could not agree more. I also switched from free weights to bands.
These bar systems are not needed, and the prices of these systems is ridiculous.
I could make a platform and bar system for far less than what they charge.
You do have to get good bands. With that said, there are many choices on that front and some of these companies charge far more than others for bands that are equal in quality.
To my understanding, most of them come from Sri Lanka to begin with.
Why do you wish you had discovered it sooner?
@@lonestarpatriot876what plate and bands do you recommend to get started?
@grimer1805 If you are just getting started, I recommend UnderSun Fitness, Rubber Banditz, Clench. Rubber Banditz have a lifetime warranty on their bands. They are the only company I know of that does so.
As far as a plate goes, I would say Clench. With that said, if you are just getting started, I would bypass the plate at first. It is not an absolute need, and you just want to get used to using the bands at first.
Clench makes a lot of great accessories for the bands such as plates, bars, handles, ankle strap attachments for doing leg extensions, etc.
I recommend just getting the bands first and getting started because then you will get a feel for what accessories you may or may not want.
I am not a fan of X3 as you pretty much have to get their whole system, and everything they sell is massively overpriced.
@@grimer1805 For the same reasons I mentioned above. Something that I can add is that I would of avoided the injuries I got from working out with traditional gym equipment.
I have X3 and the band I use the most is pretty shredded at this point because it often catches a sharp edge of the plate. I wish the super smart founder, who got his PhD from an uncredited institution, had considered solutions for this.
do you like the x3 system? whats your review
Same! I love the bar but the plate destroys the bands. I'll try to get the Harambe plate.
Not so smart after all
There was consideration. It’s called planned obsolescence.
I've gotten great results from the X3 system, using it for about 2 years. Convenient, fast, and gives a good full-body workout, but, yeah, especially the band I use for the plate exercises, I have used it a lot and the base does shred it. I went and bought a replacement, but in all that time, using it almost daily for 2 years, I haven't had to replace that band. It's unsightly, but it's still providing essentially the same resistance as it did the day it arrived. It's unsightly, but it hasn't compromised my workouts. I'm thinking of finding a good tough tape to apply to the edges to prevent further damage.
And, yeah, I agree that this is something they should have handled in a version-2 design. They did come up with a V2 band that supposedly resists shredding better, but that seems like the wrong side of the equation to address.
I use bands AS bands: Rogue, TRX, Wodfitter. Grab the band, & step on it. Simple, compact, light, cheap, & enabling of more exercises than a bar.
Nice review. I own both systems and prefer the Harambe one in most cases. I do use the X3 system when traveling by plane as the equipment in its case fits in my suitcase.
One thing you didn't talk about is the rotational difference of the ends of each bar. The Harambe's ends rotate individually while the X3's bar has both ends rotating together because the ends are connected by a long bar inside. Sometimes the X3 has some weird torque placed on the hands because of this and some people have actually lost their grip on the bar and hurt themselves.
It looks like you have the second generation of the X3 plastic plate which is a little thicker than the first generation one which I have. Mine is thin and will slightly bend with heavier bands. The Harambe plate is in a different league than any of the X3 plates.
Harambe's T bar is about the same length as X3's newer long bar.
Just received a Harambe K Bundle. It's expensive and I wonder about my sanity spending this much on a band system. However, do I feel ripped-off? No WAY! Talk about overbuilt! WOW! Exceeds my expectations incredibly. Quick shipping time. Found a discount code and they threw-in the amazing "travel" bag free. Said the platform pouch was made too small so rather than toss it they hoped I could find use for it. It's tight but platform fits. It isn't a travel system. Definitely heavy-duty. Did legs today. System is for real.
Just got mine a few days ago. Did legs last night. Had to lie on the floor between sets. Shit had me lightheaded. 😂
I have been using Undersun bands for the past 5 years. No bars or plates. Either travel 6 months in a year. It's easy to pack and very reasonably priced.
@@stevenwright9859 Have a set they're great. Use Bodylastics for stand alone band work and travel. Like their tube/clip style and for more years than I can remember.
Good review. I have the x3 system and I’m happy with it. I’m a over the road trucker and I can do the complete program in my truck without any problems. I’m also 62 years old and bands are easier on my joints than free weights. I’m going to keep doing it. It’s hard to do exercises in the winter time in a truck but yes x3 makes it possible.
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Mother of god. To think that 80,000lb truck barreling at me on the highway might have a driver who's holding the wheel with one knee while he does his X3 band workouts. Won't somebody please think of the children?
@@jetmuchacho LOL, I worry more about the 4 wheelers texting while driving.
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Regarding band technology: there can be a lot to the chemistry and manufacturing of polymer materials. The question is whether we can find hard data supporting their claims.
Personally, I'd love to see Garage Gym Reviews do deep dives on the materials and manufacturing of different products. It would take your reviews to the next level.
100% agree, Bought a set of bends from Elite FTS 10 years ago and I ve been abusing the hell of them,I ordered a pair recently and out of them box they feel cheap even the way the strech is not the same,For sure there is some tech and chemistry along with the materials they use to make them as you mention
Definitely this!
@@salazteca1 same here, I have Elite FTS bands from 10-12 years ago and they’re as good as when I got them
I think the results would be underwhelming, we've entered an age of ever-increasing corner-cutting and cost-reduction to fatten margins. The biggest insight would be how lucrative gym equipment is with lower quality than a generation ago, which probably wouldn't help the channel get sponsors.
@@salazteca1 "I ordered a pair recently and out of the box the feel cheap". Also from EliteFTS, or??? Honestly, was just looking into ordered their "Short Band Pack" to try with some resistance band deadlifts (no free weights; just bands), or some of their standard 41" bands and doubling them over for some RDL's.....All I have is a shorter EZ-curl bar and and some rigged DB handles, hmmm. Might need a straight bar or maybe some PVC pipe (if the bands were the right texture....they're the slippery kind; not chalky or w/e).
Thank you for the information. I'm 65 yrs old & just started training at Osteo strong. X3 is the system that they are using, so to see a comparison on other options is GREAT.
I bought the X3 in Dec 2020 and have used it regularly since (6x weekly). I haven't had to replace any components, and the only thing that's worn out is the X3 logo on one or two of the bands. I definitely like traditional lifting, and will probably supplement with X3 once I've got the funds and space for a home gym, but I think it's been a good investment, if even for the portability alone. I feel I've also saved money, because I haven't felt I need a gym membership.
I've used the X3 for two years, and I found your review fair. I'd buy the X3 again, and I don't regret not being aware of the Harambe System at the time, because portability is a key attribute for me. Yet I agree with you that a home lifter probably won't go wrong with either. Good job; thanks!
Try the harambe plate with the x3 bar higher intensity
Excellent Review. Very Fair.
I own multiple sets of both.
I started with the X3 and am now Using Harambe for the last 2 years. I prefer the Harambe after owning and using both.
Could you elaborate on why you prefer Harambe? I'm debating between the two systems
@@joshsturgess3301 My guess is Harambe is probably more versatile with the longer bar, and it looks more professional than the X3 in my opinion. Also, the founder isn't an arrogant asshole like the X3 founder.
Also don't forget, "Dr." Jaquish has a fake PhD and so his credibility is in question.
Isn’t your nickname Fake or Fraudulent Ferro?? I don’t think your opinion carry’s much weight
It just looks an all round better product. Back squats being possible with the way the band goes under the board and attaches to
The cords looks way better/more comfortable and allows for better positioning for the squat. Also the longer bar is a must imo. Imagine being so full of c*** telling people that they only need the short bar (x3)… everyones body structure is different and many people only feel narrow grip presses in the tris/shoulders. Why not just let the customer choose the grip width. Oh but wait, after declaring the ling bar was useless and not needed, x3 then decided to make one 😂. If I was going to pull the trigger, I would definitely get the harambe. X3 is trying to convince people he has reinvented the wheel, when using a bar and bands together is no new invention and obviously can’t be patented which probably drives him crazy 😂
Crazy Expensive. I will make my Own. 800 for one and 599 for the other. I don't know what I missing here. Large Rubber Bands, standing plate, and a bar.
good review! although I wish you would have went into the actual lifting dynamics of both, harambe system is much more aligned with traditional weightlifting than X3, I have both systems with the old X3 platform and Harambe outperforms drastically.
I use resistance bands as a replacement for cables systems. Since I workout at home. I personally like the innstar bar better, because it fits my taller frame better. Also, I use a aerobic stepper as platform from replacement. It cheaper, and it never bent or broken under my resistance.
Hey, I ordered the same setup before I watched this review. The down side of innstar is that the hooks dont rotate. Am I right? I still wait for my bar
@@TheAneliqvishinovat no they rotate, unless they change the design.
As a female I find the X3 system geared to men and not really thoughtful to women. There is no way I would be able to use the thick heavy weighted bands yet I would be forced to buy them. I made up my own system with what I found on amazon and what I had around the house. Much cheaper and it works! Thanks for your videos I always love to have your input on all things gym.
I’m a guy, but wondering what you used for your system?
Me too, but female
Love the all-in-one simplicity, but hate the price.
I love how the Harambe has pieces you can buy individually. One of the biggest barriers for me to use these systems is the price. When I can buy piecemeal, and good quality pieces at that, I can get to a point where I have exactly the system I need. Thank you for this extensive review!
Genuinely surprised it took this long for you to do this comparison! Had the X3 bar and sold it because I went more bodyweight stuff but the original X3 bar and platform were very nice pieces of equipment. If I were to buy into this type of training again, I'd go Harambe based off of what I learned here!
I am training with bands for two main reasons:
1. I have my kids running around me and try to do what I am doing when training, so weights will be dangerous.
2. Shipping cost to my country for wights is so expensive.
Therefore, I really appreciate this review.
Thanks, Coop and GGR, for showing me the way to go heavy with bands.
I have had a Gorilla Bow for 2 years it blows these away 👊
Coop, you brought up a good point about band length. I'm 6 feet tall but the 42 inch bands are too long for me to use in squats, and when even when I loop them over a bar it is tough to get them right for any kind of bench movement. I wish they sold more band lengths.
Check out Serious Steel 21" bands. Perfect deadlift length without any plate needed. Also works good for chest press on the shorter bar, if you use your body as the anchor.
@@Besokool nah, 21" is too short. I don't train with bands only, just use them in some movements
This. I’m 6’1” and long-limbed and still feel the 41” rob me of a little tension on some exercises. I know there are band shortening tricks, but I’d prefer a shorter band. The founder of Harambe mentions he uses the 32” for bench and I’ve read of people also using them for deadlifts, so I’ll probably drop some money on those, but feel like they’ll be too short.
I’m 6’0” and have long arms. I double the black band for deadlifts and it’s a good pull. Granted you aren’t going as low as you would with a barbell and 45’s but I feel you get a good enough pull
@@Guitarjourney4life … Couldn’t you buy a few pieces of wood slabs, granite (or whatever) from homedepot and set that on the platform to prop yourself up, ultimately creating a deadlift setup that more closely mimics the traditional barbell deadlift starting point?
Enjoyed the video as I have implemented band training into my workouts and have to say that im quite impressed with the Clench Fitness bands along with their footplate and handles. You should give them a try and review them as well.
Honestly, Id just buy the Harambe base, Rogue or Elite FTS bands and then build a bar from a home store. Buy metal pipe at 1-1/4” or 28mm with pre threaded ends, pipe caps, and metal eyelets with a high load capacity and carabiners. Drill the pipe caps and bolt the eyelets in, then attach the carabiners. Finally wrap the pipe in athletic tape for grip. Maybe $50 in it and plenty strong.
I bought several Rogue bands and they were over $100 worth. Of course I bought two of each for changing resistance curves on squat, bench and deadlift.
Thanks for this thoughtful review! I've had the X3 for a few years now, and found it really helpful for me. I live in a condo without a ton of room, wasn't an experienced lifter, middle-aged, and knew that I wouldn't keep with it if I had to drive out to a gym every day. This kind of system helps with all those points.
One thing you didn't bring up specifically, but it feels like a safer way to get started with serious strength training. While you still have to really respect it and keep good form, you also just don't have to worry about getting stuck at the bottom of a squat or bench press. It also feels a bit easier on the joints.
One note on training plans. It seems that science (via folks like Mike Israetel) has been finding an important part of muscle growth is load while the muscle is in a stretched position. X3's plan wants you to hit failure at full ROM and then keep doing partials until you can't move the bar anymore. I think this is probably a good idea, since otherwise you'll stop before hitting the stretched position as hard as you would with regular weights.
As far as bands go, I haven't tried the Harambe ones, but I do like the newer paraforce X3 ones a lot (which unfortunately you still can't buy with the initial system, only separately after). I think they may be synthetic rubber, and instead of being smooth and dusty, are very textured. They don't seem to wear as quickly and the narrower shape makes it easier to stack them. The force curve does seem to be different as well. It is hard to describe, but everyone that has used them seems to like them more than the normal bands.
I actually sprang for the X3 "Force" bar a bit ago. It is probably silly, but having it count reps for you and seeing the poundage live at the bottom and top of the rep does seem to help my motivation. The force won't be as accurate for front squats (or split squats without their new belt, which I find a bit awkward) since the band is partially resting on your shoulders, but still can compare to previous attempts. I'm tempted to try rigging up something a little like what Harambe does for back squats, to allow it to use a doubled band, which would give a more accurate force readout I think.
I agree that Harambe seems like the main serious competitor right now. The block is a nice idea to help get the bar in position and the ropes and spacers seem like a nice way to get fine-tuned progressive resistance besides just stacking bands. When I first got X3, I had to buy an easier band from somewhere else for a few exercises, whereas with Harambe you could probably just use longer slings to make it easier. The separate handles would probably be more comfortable for calf raises and shrugs.
For anyone who wants to cheap out on a system like this, please be careful. Unless you're going extremely light, don't do deadlifts or squats with the band just under your feet (or using a plastic cutting board, which I saw in a random Amazon comment), or chest press without a bar or handles at all. You don't want random side forces on your ankles and wrists when you have a lot of resistance.
X3 + a few kettle bells & and a yoga mat make a great home gym if you're limited on space...or if you don't like dealing with weirdos at the gym 😅
X3 makes a vibrating plate called a GH accelerator. It makes my calves feel a nice pump. I also like to lay on it and do scissor kicks or balancing yoga poses for a couple of minutes daily. I’m not sure if it is scientifically effective, but it’s my favorite part of using the X3.
What a beta male answer 😂
@@cutcostan shut the ef up fake alpha. You've been warned.
Excellent video! I have changed my workouts to all resistance bands and this is the type of video that I look for. Thank you.
Seems counterintuitive but to each their own
X3 sucks. They have yet to produce a kit without problems. First two bars would grind the hooks down. The elite bar has weird rotational properties because the hooks are not independent. The metal plate shreds bands. The original plastic plate would bend and crack. Harambe zero problems. High quality craftsmanship. No comparison.
Can you provide some examples of ground plate manufacturers
It's a shame about the x3 old school ground plate, it looks so nice! I have the gen 2 plate, metal, no rubber pads on the bottom and even more sharp edges than the gen3. I had to do some modding to get it to a state where I felt comfortable using it. Gen3 looks better for sure, but that Gen1 plate looks the best still, wish it was at least an optional thing.
Idk if they offer this any other time of year but around Christmas time the X3 Bar goes on sale from like $560.00 down to $399.00 which is way better deal obviously
I have had a few different home gym setups but for the most part I never liked using bands - just too much hassle trying to get them to have the right stretch that would provide the right resistance for the movement.
Dude I’m addicted to watching your videos now. Getting an apartment soon with a garage so I’ll be starting up a proper gym! Thanks for the videos brah
The X3 Bar is so incredibly simple to use, I don't know why anyone would use anything else. And the variable resistance of its high quality, layered latex bands allows much more force to be pushed or pulled at the top of an exercise than weights. And I don't know why anyone thinks the price is high. Not only is it so much less expensive than joining and traveling to a gym, and cleaner, it's super high quality and worth every penny. It was on back order 4 years ago, and I couldn't wait to get it. 4 years later, I still look forward to working out with it 6 days per week, 20-25 minutes per day. I used to go the gym because my son worked there and he helped me get started with weight training, but once I researched the X3 Bar and started working out with it, I can definitely tell that weights are inferior to the variable resistance of high quality, layered latex bands. With the carnivore way of eating and working out with the X3 Bar, at 69 years old, I am in the best health and shape of my adult life.
I can't understand either why people think these systems are expensive. Yes, it's a lot of money to pay up front, but once it's paid, that's it. At worst, you'd have to replace the bands from time to time. With a gym membership, travel costs and PT sessions, you have to keep paying month after month, and it soon adds up and surpasses what you'd have to pay for either of these. I'm thinking of buying one of these, perhaps the X3 as it's more portable. Have your bands become damaged from the sharp edges on the steel plate at all? Would you say this is suitable for near beginners? I've only had my gym membership and PT sessions for 8 months, and currently paying £300 per month, not including petrol costs - plenty of overtime at work.
@@jack.w.p.reynolds I don't get the too expensive issue either because of the reasons you brought up. When I purchased mine, it had a hard plastic footplate. I have no idea why they switched to a metal one. But even with it being hard plastic, I purchased a Band Barrier, opened it up flat, and attached it to the bottom of the footplate to protect the bands. As a result, after over 5 years of use six days per week, all my bands are fine. If it's not possible to attach a Band Barrier to the metal footplate, you could always just lay the footplate on the Band Barrier and put the bands under it. If you purchase one, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have mine. Cheers! By the way, sorry for the confusion. This reply is from a different account of wholearmor's.
@@BrotherScottsLookintheBook Perhaps they introduced the metal plate as it's more aesthetically pleasing, but the downside is the sharp edges. It also guarantees a return customer base and future sales as the bands will sustain damage eventually. Please can you provide a link for the band barrier. Haven't seen any improvement in my muscle mass going to the gym combined with a ketovore diet, so I will buy the X3 if I can be convinced I'll get better results. Are these kits something a near beginner like myself can use?
Not sure why Harambe wouldn't send the shorter bar as well for the inevitable X3 comparison....perhaps they know this is more of a barbell community.
I have X3 (bar and platform only..there used to be a way to Google into not ordering the full system)...don't use it since I built the gym out, but I had to pull the trigger on the Harambe ground plate and cork blocks. Might be enough to inspire some supplemental band use.
I lifted free weights for 45 yrs, because of space and I'm close to 70, I do body weight and bands (loop) don't care for the tube style, i will say this my range of motion with bands and body weight is much improved and my joints don't hurt as much, haven't tried either brand your checking out, I have good workouts with rogue monster bands, and in 5 yrs have only had one snap, and even that was users mistake
Good fair review. I have the Harambe system and I have no regrets.
I was looking into the X3 for a few weeks, thinking it was my best option as opposed to buying a gym membership. The way I see it, I could put that money into my nutrition after purchasing home gym equipment, which would pay for itself in the span of a year. Then miraculously, The Harambe System was advertised to me out of nowhere. I am so happy that it was, I have been looking into it and it just seems much superior to the X3 from what I have gathered. Plus the founder isn't a gaping asshole, unlike the founder of X3. $790 is an investment for your health. People spend more than that on frivolous things in a month, or a quarter of the year. You get what you pay for. To each his own. I believe it is worth it if you achieve the results you seek, you just have to put in the work.
Agree with all. I also invested in two ‘unitree pumps’ for my home gym. They aren’t cheap, but actually really good. I made my own diy x3 bar but I’ve been using the unitrees more. Digital/motor driven resistance actually feels awesome and difficult
@@user-cp2qw2ek5e Unitree? What is that?
Thank God for this is a superb comparison. Somebody had to do it, and somebody has. I blew off X3 two years ago for reason of the price. Fact is, I like my workouts as-is, have had great results, and realized I didn't need anything new i.e. why change? Coming back aboard the general discussion tonight because I just want an alternative in my lifting quiver, and your demonstration has put to bed a lot of questions I'd've had no other way, than extreme expense, to answer. Thank you again.
Nice overview of both systems and helpful since I'm looking into purchasing one!
As of September 2023. K bundle is $750. T Bundle is $500. CornellWiley is a 10% off all purchases
I wish I had this when I used to drive over the road trucking, instead of having to carry around all those metal plates in my truck
This was a very objective, honest review. Thank you very much.
I have the old black X3 floor plate, but the Harambe floor plate, including their T plate seems to be of better quality. But I'd love to see a comparison between the Harambe floor plate and the Clench Fitness footplate, which also looks of way better quality than the X3 variants.
The Clench footplate is excellent. I went all-in and included the riser kit and lapped anti-skid tape on the deck for safety.
Great reveiw,Been wating for this one for a while!
Just bought the harambe system it's more expensive but from using it seems vastly superior to the x3. You get what you pay for. I can do heavy squats and dead lifts and get a just as good if not better workout than traditional weights.
Can you imagine naming your fitness brand after a meme? I think they have a very specific market in mind
Especially since the meme has been hijacked by the alt right
Agree. Product looks cool and innovative in its own right but the name is so stupid.
@@StarCrusher. wut?
Awesome balanced review!
Thank you so much Coop! I've had my eye on this system for a while now but havent took the plunge cause I basically made my own kit but Ive always wondered your take on it vs the X3! Now I know it has the GGR stamp of approval!
🦍Never forget Harambe!
The culture is strong with this one.
Coop, can we expect to see a review of Titan's new open trap bar? Definitely curious to see how it stacks up against the "big boys" (i.e., Eleiko and Kabuki), but is probably more comparable to Rep's bar. Thanks!
I am not their target audience, but enjoyed the review. The sound on this video was much better than the previous couple!
I didn’t like the X3 bar. I felt very uncomfortable in several positions. Maybe I’m just weak, but the rows felt like they would snap my back. The deadlifts are great though. The chest press felt like they never hit my chest either. I’m only 6’1, but it felt like it was made for slightly shorter people.
Where can you get those third party plate for the resistance bands?
Indeed. I want to know this as well.
X3 with the Harambe platform is amazing. X3s stock metal plate will EAT your bands.
Third parties on a well known auction site are selling X3 band protector inserts to fit on to the X3 platform to protect the bands against the sharp edges.
Man I love this channel.
So many people have spec'd out how to build the bars and the and the platforms. Sure they're not perfect and I have NO IDEA how much less quality the $40 set of bands I bought are, but I've built this setup for about $130 and it is awesome. I definitely don't get the same feeling that I get from lifting heavy (I feel MUCH MORE sore for about 30 minutes following my workout and then nothing after) and so I don't use bands alone, but for anyone willing to invest a little more than a few months gym membership this is certainly an everyday alternative, or even a travel alternative.
Fair Excellent review as always. Keep it up. I enjoy your reviews.
You forgot to mention X3 sells a long one now. Good review I'm active in the band world
Coop I love you but these things are wildly overpriced compared to what you could get with either traditional free weights or just a gym membership, quality of material or no $550 for the X3 set is bananas.
It's a lot of money to pay up front, but once it's paid, that's it, only needing to replace specific components from time to time. With a gym membership (mine is £60 per month), you have to keep paying every month, and that's not taking into account fuel for travel or additional costs such as PT sessions, which I also have. I'm starting to think something like one of these two systems would be a great purchase, especially if I can get either at a discounted price, but I need to look into it a bit more first.
Excellent as always! Thanks Coop!
Besides the price that has stopped me from buying the X3, the edge of the metal plate appears to be sharp and would cut the bands. Maybe I am wrong. It is just my observation of working out for many years.
Sorry, I offered my opinion before you finished talking about the plates.
The biggest problem with standalone bands is that their resistance is maxed at the diametrically opposite point of the workout of where you want that, at the top of a rep, rather than when you are in a deep extension at the bottom of a rep. But if I were, say, a trucker, looking to stock a vacation property, otherwise short on space, its certainly better than nothing.
Great video and review.....appreciate your opinion...Just one question, ever since I first watched this review I've looked for the alternative/custom ground plates mentioned in the video(timestamp-9:36) but could not find anything.....Is there any chance you could possibly post a link/a website to where someone could find a groundplates similar to either the X3 or Harambe System?
I'd like to see such a link too! Thank you.
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I find that the resistance steps between my bands is very high. Band A I can manage while band B I cannot. The only option is to stretch band A a lot for more resistance and hope it doesn't break. 😬
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Thanks. This was very informative! But what I really want to know is whether there is anything to the theory or science that the X3 inventor claims. Maybe you've talked about that in another video. I'll have to check.
ruclips.net/video/Mqw45jfsh08/видео.html i don't have the X3 but you might find what your looking for in this interview.
Where can you find the different plate for the x3?
I have a fully equipped home gym, but I do train with bands very often, because sometimes I'm doing my training at work (I work 12 hour shifts). Using a bar makes things much more comfortable, and since commercial band bars available in my country are flimsy and expensive, I've made my own using 3 short 1 inch steel pipes connected together and two climbing carabiners - it is rock solid and can withstand even my strongest band, which has a maximum resistance of 230 lbs, even if it's folded into two, like when I'm doing bench or floor press. I also have a barbell made from a single 6,5 ft 1 inch pipe in my gym and it can withstand 400 lbs.
I've even noticed that using resistance bands helped me break my bench press plateau. It's definitely worth trying.
Thank you!! Have been looking at both for use at hotel while traveling.
I have found that many hotels have pretty decent gyms. At the least, you get a good bench and a rack of DBs to 60 or 70. Often a functional trainer. Have seen some with Smith Machines. Often a rowing machine. Much prefer that to working with bands.
@@richardmather1906 yes maybe in the USA Canada UK....but not in the third world country where I travel, not in remote areas hundreds of miles from anything...
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica Fair enough!
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@garagegymreviews You mention people making after market plates for the X3. However, I am having some trouble finding them. Could you point me in the right direction?
Good review. I like the ideas of bands with bars for space savings and such but I don’t think I would spend what these companies want for their systems
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Awesome info, thanks!
Just picked up the x3 on sale and for the price in comparison to the Harambee I think it wins. The bar to me is what sets it apart. I think the Harambee is a nice set up but very pricey for what you get plus I’m not too crazy about how the bands are changed out. I’m also really surprised at the quality of the x3 bands.
X3, the bar is too short and always have been.. also, the "fanboys" of X3 are just crazy stupid, sorry.. but they freakin are. Harambe System is a good product and at least have a better board & bar that makes you able to properly do exercises.
And yes, X3 now have a longer bar, but only available for existing customers and only in the US. Weaksauce.
Only thing though, is that I prefer the hooks at the end, that the X3 bar has, over the ropes from harambe.
one more thing... Coop, they do mention what the bar can take.... load capacity = 1.000 pounds and 4500 lb tensile strength on the ropes, further more... it clearly states what specs the bar have... what are you talking about?
So, that's that.
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The not selling the bar to people except current system owners is just bizarre. I simply couldn't spend my money with a company like that. Coercing people into buying things they don't need or want?
Sometimes you want the full meal and sometimes you just want the sandwich.
Where are the 3rd party ground plates you show in the video? I can't find them when I search.
Cool, thinking to order a more affordable basic system and use an aluminum door saddle or plywood as floor plate.
so, a 5$ pipe and some resistance bands?
If you get high quality thick natural latex bands, with the kind of resistance that x3 offers, you'll likely spend about $200 on just the bands. If you DIY the bar and platform I'm not sure about the price. The platform is easy. Just buy a high quality cutting board, 4 hockey puck, and 8 1.5" screws.
The bar is a little trickier. You need a way securing the bands to the bar without damaging them, and still have the ability to rotate. If you could attach something to either end of a pipe that would rotate and allow caribbeaners to attach to them, then that would work. It also has to be able to take the strain of the heavy bands.
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The cost of these systems are absolutely crazy... a bar and some bands are $750?!.... Nah I'm good.
1:20 what is the stand you are squatting in and have you reviewed it?
May sound crazy, but I think would get both.
Thank you for such a thorough, articulate, and viewable review. Is there a way to perform isolation movements with these systems?
Coop. Former liney dom v here. Keep it up bud
Coop can you please compare Vitruvian trainer and Tonal to Wolfmate fitness products? Both have similar functions but it's a great deal cheaper for Wolfmate. Thanks
I have a squatz apollo board and two unitree pumps. I saw the wolfmate after I bought the apollo, but still glad I settled on the apollo as it has a remote switch to start/stop the resistance to stop you getting stuck under the bar. The apollo board also has manual control’s whereas the vitruvian is app only controlled. Digital resistance is awesome imo. I can’t comment on the tonal except it seems pointless drilling into a wall when something like the apollo board folds up and can be moved easily. The unitree pumps are also great, but you need a minimum of two , maybe 4 depending on your strength. If the wolfmate has a remote switch then awesome, as I think it’s cheaper than the apollo board. Customer service wasn’t great from squatz. I was put off the vitruvian as it’s only app controlled….🙏
Great video. Thank you
Could you recommend a good step-on plate and just the bar?
Where are this brands that make ground plates? I can’t find any.
Great review sir. I do mobile senior fitness and always looking for some new options for my members. Some of my clients are frail but others do quite well. I'm intrigued by both of these systems and your review was quite comprehensive. Do you know of any competitors to X3 or Harambe that are also pretty good?
Thanks in advance!
I recently tried Harambe bands and am considering investing into the rest of the system. I’m 5’6” and considering either the T or K system. One thing though, the platform I’m currently using provides a 4” boost in height and gives good tension when setting up for an exercise. Do you think the loss in height from the Harambe platform will affect the quality of the workout much?
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Have both but have moved more towards harambe because of the plate and the handles..... have you checked out clench fitness system and plate also have that and also very good to
Thank you so much for the information! I'm very interested in these systems. I read Jaquish's book because I'm looking for a way to reverse osteoporosis. I'm not that strong yet. Could you recommend bands that I could start with? I'm leaning towards the x3 because I travel.
Do you recommend harambe or x3? I bought a pair of powerblocks and a power tower recently and stumbled upon this video and am having second thoughts on those tools.. should I return them for this? Or keep them and supplement this into my workouts with them?
I think both system have there groups but it's x3 for me I've had great results with it Plus my band's have not ripped like most people complaining about maybe they are not doing excises properly! I also have band's from other companies and no snapping only one band I have has normal wear on it and it's wodfitters band, that I've been using on regular for two year's Plus so I say this too say both systems are Great but mine is the X3!!!!!!!
Hi, what is the name of the bag , that you use for your X3bar - equipment, when you travel?Is there also space for the platform?
I guess people find a lot of value in these products and their communities but given all the copycats in the fitness industry I am surprised there aren't much cheaper knockoff products yet.
That is what I'm thinking. Why hasn't anyone made a knock off?