That Sandvick 14C28N steel used to be exclusive to Kershaw and I own several of those knives. While not a "super steel," it holds an edge better than most value steels (e.g. 420HC, 440C, 8Cr13MoV) and it's still easy to sharpen.
Man I totally like the way you lay it out, the knife industry loves that people have been programmed to believe you must have a $150-200 knife to bushcraft with. I have a limited income so value+quality is #1for me. I began doing bushcraft stuff just over a year ago and went through the learning process on what works and what doesn't and boy did I waste precious dollars. I now only have 3 knives the Mora Pro, Condor Bushlore and my favorite blade the Gerber Prodigy, that knife is amazing. After taking the time to learn how to use serrations and watching bluemountainbushcraft & Magnus Anderson's reviews I changed my whole way of thinking. Yes serrations are not ideal for bushcraft but if used properly they are wicked knives for fire and camp craft. I now have the Garberg ordered and can't wait to try it out, $56 on Amazon is the best deal I've seen this year. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, you do great reviews.
Glad to hear your opinion. I've been disagreeing with people that say the Garberg is overpriced ever since it came out. I think it is actually a reasonable price and a great value. One other comment about the value: The Garberg is actually 14C28 instead of the typical Mora 12C27. So even the steel is an upgrade from their regular line. It's apples to oranges. Not sure why people expect them to be in the same price range.
excellent point, i love moras and this one is no exception. id still have to say their best knife is the mora black and this one rivals it(although the mora blacks carbon gives it the slight edge in my opinion). what sucks is iwas at work a few days ago, garberg hanging on my hip, i had to run and the knife fell out. the very tip chipped off! its very slight, ye can barely notice it, almost microscopic, but it bugs me.
Well thought out and presented discussion! I have a number of more expensive knives but found I really like my Bushcraft Black and Edris value for the money and use them more than the others....
I totally agree with you ! people complains about the price but just compare it with esee 4 ... 69€ (Garberg in France) vs 130 € (Esee 4) there is no comparaison. The garberg is better in my opinion.
"If you have knowledge you will never break a knife." This statement resonates with me! I think you don't even need that large of a knife to baton. You can even use a non locking folder but you need to be smart and fashion yourself 3 additional tools. One is the baton(a thick stick) and the others are 2 wedges. The wedges should be made from a thick enough branch that they won't bend under batoning stress and ideally have both faces of the wedge running across their full length to create a shallow angle. This is important because otherwise the wood will get stuck and not move further. The more wedges you can use, the higher the surface in contact with the wood will get and the easier each individual wedge will be to drive. The process looks as follows: Take your knife and baton it a little deeper than the blade is high. Only baton at the very edge of the wood but face the knifetip strait at the center of the log enter one wedge into the cut behind the blade baton the wedge deep enough that the strain is taken of the knifeblade and pull/wiggle the knife out. This should ideally only take a few whacks. baton wedge further until is begins to stick enter a second wedge into the split, baton until it sticks baton the different wedges alternatively until they stick, enter new wedges if necessary and repeat batoning until wood splits. The nice thing about this is that there is no real danger of the blade breaking because it does not get jammed and bend laterally in the wood. A second cool thing is that this is scalable, the size and number of wedges can be adjusted to the size of log you want to split. This sounds very theoretical but I tried this method during a holiday in scotland with only a victorinox huntsman and a svord mini peasant knife and this worked great for splitting dried firewood for the cabin and some dead logs in the wood. Of course if you need a fire fast, you should use another method. Hope someone could get some inspiration from this.
I’ve had a mora companion for years, I’ve beat the hell outta that thing and it still works great. I still use it all the time and I have knives that were way more than $100. Good knife for a great price. Mines stainless steel and I just ground part of the spine and it strikes a fire rod just fine
I agree on points. But I think the Garberg is overpriced and not good at slicing food. We don't call it a full tang here but a protruding stick tang. The Clipper is different from the Companion since the Clipper has a much shorter but broader stick tang. The steel on the Garberg is 14C28N. The steel on the Garberg is 3,2mm, same as on the Companion HD and even the Mora Robust. The difference is in the spine. So I guess 50 dollar would be a reasonable price for this plastic handle knife but they are 75 dollar. For that price I can get a Joker knife, even in the same steel, with nice micarta or wooden handle and a thick leather dangler sheath even with matching fire steel. So there are options available and you get more quality for the same price.
I agree with many of the things you said, however I think you got a bit carried away. You can find similarly good knives at around the same price point. The Condor Bushlore (and Condor Knives in general) are good bushcraft knives, decent 1075 steel and are about 50$. For a more survival oriented user that does more heavy tasks (chopping, batoning, shelter building) you can get a Ka-Bar Becker BK-2 for about 75$ which is about an inch longer, thicker, good 1095 steel and it's tank of a knife... Also from Becker you can get a BK-16 if you want a knife of about the same size as the Garberg for around 60$, same 1095 steel. If you feel creative or like working on a little project you can even buy an Enzo Trapper blank for around 50$ and make your own handle and sheath and you'll have a great bushcraft knife made out of an excellent O1 steel. So there are some good options out there. Still I'm watching your video because I'm eager to get the delivery of my Garberg.
Maris Ionut Alexandru Agreed BUT Condors 1075 is soft ya gotta strop them more than most also they rust if someone cries with in 50ft feet of them.But I love my Bushlore regardless, I got the Garberg heading my way from Amazon $56 , I keep telling everyone I can in comments cause that's a great deal.
That's much more of a congent argument for buying one than I have heard thus far. I was rather taken back by the price when they came out, but it seems to be as good as my Fallkniven F1 or S1 so that price is reasonable. As for the fire from a Carbon Steel blade, the reality is that if I am dropped in the pot, I am going to be rescued or dead long before I run out of matches or lighter fluid.
If you can't afford a $70 knife it doesn't matter who makes it so I don't get the ragging on Mora. Mora offers knives across a broad range of prices. I own the Garberg and it's a tank, more substantial than the Bushcraft Black which is a very good knife in its own right.
Say Heah, I didn't mean to be rude. Yeah, I must of been busy with something but didn't take my time to think. Yeah, I knew one day I would own a Garberg. But first I went with a Cold Steel 3V Master Hunter. Then I just bought another Fix Parang Bushcraft Parang that's supposed to be a little bigger than my original. The difference is its a little longer with more of a clip point and the spine is all jimping. Anyhow, I think I'm going to team it with a Kansbol and Eldris is how much I like Fox Knives. But since I'm buying some Moras, I might as well get the Garberg.,,.
Michael StJohn That's if you can get one LOL, since Amazon dropped the price to $56 on the Garberg I had to jump on it. Those Terava 110-140 are sweet looking but definitely the 140, IMHO its the perfect length for bushcraft camping stuff. Now that I have the Mora Garberg coming I think I might get that meat clever thing that Terava makes, that things a beast.
Michael StJohn Nope I'm not but I should cause I love knife talk, I just started messing around with knives a little over a year ago. I really like the bushcraft stuff, and want to eventually make it a full time hobby, being in the woods or working with wood is a great stress reliever. I've learned a lot about knives and steels, I really like finding knives that are great tools for the money so I can pass that info on to the next guy. I plan making some knife videos of my own when I can.
Say Heah, Opinions are like noses, Everybody has one. Defenetly it's a good knife, But for what I do, my Rodent 4 is one of my Fav's. But yeah the Garberg is on my list, with the Kansbol and Eldris. ,, .
If your smart and have any idea about knives you wouldn't be beating the shit out of it batoning wood there is just no need, whittle some wedges start a split with the knife then drive wedges through!!
That Sandvick 14C28N steel used to be exclusive to Kershaw and I own several of those knives. While not a "super steel," it holds an edge better than most value steels (e.g. 420HC, 440C, 8Cr13MoV) and it's still easy to sharpen.
Man I totally like the way you lay it out, the knife industry loves that people have been programmed to believe you must have a $150-200 knife to bushcraft with. I have a limited income so value+quality is #1for me. I began doing bushcraft stuff just over a year ago and went through the learning process on what works and what doesn't and boy did I waste precious dollars.
I now only have 3 knives the Mora Pro, Condor Bushlore and my favorite blade the Gerber Prodigy, that knife is amazing. After taking the time to learn how to use serrations and watching bluemountainbushcraft & Magnus Anderson's reviews I changed my whole way of thinking. Yes serrations are not ideal for bushcraft but if used properly they are wicked knives for fire and camp craft. I now have the Garberg ordered and can't wait to try it out, $56 on Amazon is the best deal I've seen this year. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, you do great reviews.
Glad to hear your opinion. I've been disagreeing with people that say the Garberg is overpriced ever since it came out. I think it is actually a reasonable price and a great value.
One other comment about the value: The Garberg is actually 14C28 instead of the typical Mora 12C27. So even the steel is an upgrade from their regular line. It's apples to oranges. Not sure why people expect them to be in the same price range.
This happens on EVERY Garberg video comment section. People mention knives that are completely different as comparisons. Every time.
Wow this 4 years ago. Such an awesome review.
Thank you! It’s definitely time for an update!
the mora garberg is only $55 right now on amazon, only four hours left than it goes back to 80.
Jona7Fer Guess they changed their minds cause I just bought mine for $56 shipped😁
excellent point, i love moras and this one is no exception. id still have to say their best knife is the mora black and this one rivals it(although the mora blacks carbon gives it the slight edge in my opinion). what sucks is iwas at work a few days ago, garberg hanging on my hip, i had to run and the knife fell out. the very tip chipped off! its very slight, ye can barely notice it, almost microscopic, but it bugs me.
Hey you, good to see you here. Would the same happen to the Garberg Carbon?
Well thought out and presented discussion! I have a number of more expensive knives but found I really like my Bushcraft Black and Edris value for the money and use them more than the others....
I totally agree with you ! people complains about the price but just compare it with esee 4 ... 69€ (Garberg in France) vs 130 € (Esee 4) there is no comparaison. The garberg is better in my opinion.
"If you have knowledge you will never break a knife." This statement resonates with me! I think you don't even need that large of a knife to baton. You can even use a non locking folder but you need to be smart and fashion yourself 3 additional tools. One is the baton(a thick stick) and the others are 2 wedges. The wedges should be made from a thick enough branch that they won't bend under batoning stress and ideally have both faces of the wedge running across their full length to create a shallow angle. This is important because otherwise the wood will get stuck and not move further. The more wedges you can use, the higher the surface in contact with the wood will get and the easier each individual wedge will be to drive.
The process looks as follows:
Take your knife and baton it a little deeper than the blade is high. Only baton at the very edge of the wood but face the knifetip strait at the center of the log
enter one wedge into the cut behind the blade
baton the wedge deep enough that the strain is taken of the knifeblade and pull/wiggle the knife out. This should ideally only take a few whacks.
baton wedge further until is begins to stick
enter a second wedge into the split, baton until it sticks
baton the different wedges alternatively until they stick, enter new wedges if necessary and repeat batoning until wood splits.
The nice thing about this is that there is no real danger of the blade breaking because it does not get jammed and bend laterally in the wood.
A second cool thing is that this is scalable, the size and number of wedges can be adjusted to the size of log you want to split.
This sounds very theoretical but I tried this method during a holiday in scotland with only a victorinox huntsman and a svord mini peasant knife and this worked great for splitting dried firewood for the cabin and some dead logs in the wood.
Of course if you need a fire fast, you should use another method.
Hope someone could get some inspiration from this.
I’ve had a mora companion for years, I’ve beat the hell outta that thing and it still works great. I still use it all the time and I have knives that were way more than $100. Good knife for a great price. Mines stainless steel and I just ground part of the spine and it strikes a fire rod just fine
Please don't take offense, but are you Ray Mears' long-lost American love child? :-)
No offense taken lol, I take that as a complement!
I am
I agree on points. But I think the Garberg is overpriced and not good at slicing food. We don't call it a full tang here but a protruding stick tang. The Clipper is different from the Companion since the Clipper has a much shorter but broader stick tang. The steel on the Garberg is 14C28N. The steel on the Garberg is 3,2mm, same as on the Companion HD and even the Mora Robust. The difference is in the spine. So I guess 50 dollar would be a reasonable price for this plastic handle knife but they are 75 dollar. For that price I can get a Joker knife, even in the same steel, with nice micarta or wooden handle and a thick leather dangler sheath even with matching fire steel. So there are options available and you get more quality for the same price.
Good job.
I agree with many of the things you said, however I think you got a bit carried away. You can find similarly good knives at around the same price point. The Condor Bushlore (and Condor Knives in general) are good bushcraft knives, decent 1075 steel and are about 50$. For a more survival oriented user that does more heavy tasks (chopping, batoning, shelter building) you can get a Ka-Bar Becker BK-2 for about 75$ which is about an inch longer, thicker, good 1095 steel and it's tank of a knife... Also from Becker you can get a BK-16 if you want a knife of about the same size as the Garberg for around 60$, same 1095 steel. If you feel creative or like working on a little project you can even buy an Enzo Trapper blank for around 50$ and make your own handle and sheath and you'll have a great bushcraft knife made out of an excellent O1 steel. So there are some good options out there. Still I'm watching your video because I'm eager to get the delivery of my Garberg.
Maris Ionut Alexandru Agreed BUT Condors 1075 is soft ya gotta strop them more than most also they rust if someone cries with in 50ft feet of them.But I love my Bushlore regardless, I got the Garberg heading my way from Amazon $56 , I keep telling everyone I can in comments cause that's a great deal.
I was looking for someone to mention the condor. And this was the very last comment.
That's much more of a congent argument for buying one than I have heard thus far. I was rather taken back by the price when they came out, but it seems to be as good as my Fallkniven F1 or S1 so that price is reasonable.
As for the fire from a Carbon Steel blade, the reality is that if I am dropped in the pot, I am going to be rescued or dead long before I run out of matches or lighter fluid.
nice vid!!! what about enzo trappers?! have you tried them?!
Can you do a review of the Ontario woodsman Bushcraft in 420SS
If you can't afford a $70 knife it doesn't matter who makes it so I don't get the ragging on Mora. Mora offers knives across a broad range of prices. I own the Garberg and it's a tank, more substantial than the Bushcraft Black which is a very good knife in its own right.
the best bushcraft knife for the money? just try out the real steel bushcraft 2, in D2 steel, for 20 to 30 dollars less, you may reconsider ;)
Say Heah, I didn't mean to be rude. Yeah, I must of been busy with something but didn't take my time to think. Yeah, I knew one day I would own a Garberg. But first I went with a Cold Steel 3V Master Hunter. Then I just bought another Fix Parang Bushcraft Parang that's supposed to be a little bigger than my original. The difference is its a little longer with more of a clip point and the spine is all jimping. Anyhow, I think I'm going to team it with a Kansbol and Eldris is how much I like Fox Knives. But since I'm buying some Moras, I might as well get the Garberg.,,.
Hard to beat the Terävä Jääkäripuukko 110
Until it gets wet, sure.
Hasn't bothered it yet.
Michael StJohn That's if you can get one LOL, since Amazon dropped the price to $56 on the Garberg I had to jump on it. Those Terava 110-140 are sweet looking but definitely the 140, IMHO its the perfect length for bushcraft camping stuff. Now that I have the Mora Garberg coming I think I might get that meat clever thing that Terava makes, that things a beast.
I have the Skrama also. It's an excellent blade! Are you on the Prepared mind Facebook page? Lots of guys love the Varusteleka stuff.
Michael StJohn Nope I'm not but I should cause I love knife talk, I just started messing around with knives a little over a year ago. I really like the bushcraft stuff, and want to eventually make it a full time hobby, being in the woods or working with wood is a great stress reliever. I've learned a lot about knives and steels, I really like finding knives that are great tools for the money so I can pass that info on to the next guy. I plan making some knife videos of my own when I can.
Say Heah, Opinions are like noses, Everybody has one. Defenetly it's a good knife, But for what I do, my Rodent 4 is one of my Fav's. But yeah the Garberg is on my list, with the Kansbol and Eldris. ,, .
Terävä Jääkäripuukko 110
If your smart and have any idea about knives you wouldn't be beating the shit out of it batoning wood there is just no need, whittle some wedges start a split with the knife then drive wedges through!!
Yeah I have a tak 1 and mora garberg the garberg is way better