critique and feedback - the story of austin's butterfly - Ron Berger

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @bayanajlouni7348
    @bayanajlouni7348 7 лет назад +44

    The calmness of the teacher, the way of explaining and how to interact with students is striking really 😊

  • @SABet_Sandra
    @SABet_Sandra 3 года назад +21

    It was great to see how this teacher drove students towards the final goal and help them reflect on peer feedback vs self-progress. Fantastic! Thanks...

  • @h4mz484
    @h4mz484 3 года назад +36

    Austin be like: “ I dunno guys my first drawing looks the best”

  • @Grantman79
    @Grantman79 9 лет назад +28

    This is what good art teachers have been doing every day for years! ...glad to see that we are getting a little recognition for how we "teach" others "how to see."

  • @w.d.4590
    @w.d.4590 5 лет назад +2

    All schools should teach this, it's so important to learn that you can make mistakes and that you can try again and learn from feedback..... most adults even strugle with this, especially receiving feedback on their own work.

  • @chidinmanwaoguegbe1509
    @chidinmanwaoguegbe1509 4 месяца назад +1

    This is definitely gonna be the first video I will play in my class after summer to encourage my students to work harder and maximise feedback. I love this. Thank you. 🎉

  • @h4mz484
    @h4mz484 3 года назад +11

    Austin’s classmates be like “just give up Austin, you have had like 5 goes”

  • @karenfrith4161
    @karenfrith4161 7 лет назад +8

    fantastic. such a wonderful message. I love how the children "didn't want to be mean" but felt honesty was important for progress. I loved this clip. Thank you

  • @taslimakhanom9172
    @taslimakhanom9172 3 года назад +18

    Wow! Austin really progressed and worked hard and ended up with an amazing drawing!

  • @ceciliaannecchini5115
    @ceciliaannecchini5115 5 лет назад +1

    The importance of specific feedback is definitely one to take back to the classroom. The more specific the feedback, the better the students will try/learn the next time they are assigned a task. Great evidence of this in the video.

  • @ordan2634
    @ordan2634 5 лет назад +6

    I very much enjoyed watching the kindergarteners reaction to Austin's Final Draft Butterfly.

  • @sgt7
    @sgt7 8 лет назад +16

    "I knew it!" Brilliant.

  • @BramuSing
    @BramuSing 2 года назад

    When I started a teacher training in 2010, in which we also had to master the content in great derail, our teacher showed us this video. To empower us to make hundreds of drafts. Ever since this is also my way of teaching.

  • @edwardrussell6805
    @edwardrussell6805 6 лет назад +3

    it's really useful to see how easy it could be to develop co-operation amongst children. This is a great way to teach children to peer-assess and give 'feedforward'. We always have to think about how we can be better, even though, it'll never be perfect :)

  • @tobaliciousholland12
    @tobaliciousholland12 3 года назад +6

    I'm a primary teacher myself. I will try this next chance I get. The teacher in this video is excellent and the students are so wholesome with their intentions and their gentle critiques.

  • @dmac7596
    @dmac7596 6 лет назад +1

    Wonderful example of peer editing done with kindness, precise and useful feedback that promotes improvement and confidence. Thank you for this!!

  • @SandiMitchellAPEXLeadership
    @SandiMitchellAPEXLeadership 8 лет назад +4

    What I love about this is that the school doesn't accept the first draft. They teach the kids that they (the kids) have it in them to continue doing better. I find that in business sometimes our leaders will either just accept the first draft and have to "fix" things later or they'll simply take the work on themselves. I love this approach of coaching the kids (and our team members) in the specifics of what we're looking for and expecting that they can do it. Most people rise to the level of expectations.

  • @libbywoodfin4266
    @libbywoodfin4266 11 лет назад +1

    Ron Berger is the lead author on Expeditionary Learning's new book, Leaders of Their Own Learning: Transforming Schools through Student-Engaged Assessment. The Austin's Butterfly video is one of 27 that accompany the book. For more information visit: www.elschools.org/leadersoftheirownlearning.

  • @stacyeleanza4917
    @stacyeleanza4917 9 лет назад +1

    It seems like Austin finally settled into pure observation ("right brain") mode when he began the 4th version. As if he stopped "trying" ("left brain"), & began deeply observing, which requires being fully present and aware. He remained in "the zone" of deep observation, as he added the texture.

  • @StxpTheGenxcide
    @StxpTheGenxcide 2 года назад +2

    ❤ such intelligent children and such a good way to show the importance of not giving up and revising by considering the feedbacks of others

  • @cynthia4670
    @cynthia4670 8 лет назад +5

    Man we all were so little, it brings back great memories! I wishes I still had that hello kitty shirt it was my favorite, I remember when we did this video I was so talkative, but they didn't put in any of my words, only said my name a few times. I wish I was still that little

    • @prodigyleadershipacademy
      @prodigyleadershipacademy 8 лет назад +3

      Cynthia, did these lessons of helpful critiques and multiple drafts stick with you so that it is a continued part of your learning?

    • @cynthia4670
      @cynthia4670 8 лет назад +7

      Prodigy Leadership Academy to be honest I can't fully remember, but when I think of it I remember after that I went to all my siblings with tons of things like writing and my artwork when I was finished because I thought wow if I get people to correct me before I go to the teacher I'm going to be at the top of my classes. So ya it helped me work harder and become more opened minded to others opinions and advice

    • @randomperson8367
      @randomperson8367 7 лет назад

      wow is it you on 0:32

  • @PamelitaJohn
    @PamelitaJohn 8 лет назад +11

    What a lovely voice the teacher has. The kids are gorgeous.
    A fantastic lesson. Thanks!

  • @visuart
    @visuart 2 года назад +1

    Lovely, I’m a professional artist for tv shows and games and this made me cry out of joy! Thanks for sharing

  • @eunicejeanpatron3286
    @eunicejeanpatron3286 2 года назад +2

    This is so excellent, and I believe this is something we could apply in our real lives as well. How along with the guidance of others, we become better at what we do, and we also become better people. This is a nice reminder that we shouldn't give up just yet, there will always be room for improvement and more chances of us getting better, experiencing better. :)

  • @SiminHeyhat
    @SiminHeyhat 3 года назад +8

    A great video inspiring for all teachers.

  • @gRaCi3La89
    @gRaCi3La89 6 лет назад +1

    I think a lot of adults would benefit from watching this video and adopting this mindset in their communication with fellow adults :)

  • @heidicooney3192
    @heidicooney3192 3 года назад +1

    Austin did not give up that's how you progress and it came out very good at the end

  • @AaronSilkwood
    @AaronSilkwood 7 лет назад +6

    this is why we shouldn't procrastinate, or our final will be our 1st draft.

  • @performancegenetyx2774
    @performancegenetyx2774 7 лет назад +1

    Brilliant example of Growth Mindset - superb.

  • @pneudmatic
    @pneudmatic 2 года назад

    A good video to watch when you want to boost your sense of optimism about humanity in general.

  • @danxunli868
    @danxunli868 2 года назад +3

    such a wonderful teaching!!!

  • @helenc8562
    @helenc8562 2 года назад

    I love this. I teach high school economics but it's absolutely relevant for my students too, and I will be using this video to demonstrate for them how they can give constructive peer feedback with essay writing and presentations. Thanks for sharing!

  • @michaelhackman895
    @michaelhackman895 5 лет назад +1

    Can anyone confirm when this video was actually made? It looks older than 2012 and I'd like to reference it in a study. Thanks!

  • @laurawhite3569
    @laurawhite3569 11 месяцев назад

    “ Show me.” I love it.

  • @kabirahmed8882
    @kabirahmed8882 6 лет назад

    I can’t believe how Austin has improved!!!

  • @aeth2
    @aeth2 9 лет назад +2

    Susan wants you to all be cautious about giving feedback so that students dreams aren't crushed!

  • @Daredreamer2
    @Daredreamer2 8 лет назад +2

    Great way to teach kids about communication, including accepting and giving feedback.

  • @luna-oi9sq
    @luna-oi9sq 9 лет назад

    In learning this in class I feel like it's "when people say there bad at art because they don't try but when they try there way good

  • @xeanne.m3867
    @xeanne.m3867 10 лет назад +12

    We watched this like 100000 times

  • @turttlecat
    @turttlecat 5 лет назад +1

    Wow!!! It’s so cute! I’m learning about this in school

  • @admiral_hyperion
    @admiral_hyperion 3 года назад +3

    There is no way it has only 4K likes but it has 1M views

  • @nickibullick7708
    @nickibullick7708 3 года назад +3

    I saw the original video with Austin’s class years ago and I’m trying to find it again. You did a great job on re-capturing the story of Austin! If you have the link or footage of the original can you please post it? Since I work with 1st graders I wanted to show how that process looked in the classroom. Thanks!

  • @barnheels
    @barnheels 11 лет назад

    I use this to show high school kids how to give/receive feedback! Thanks!

  • @thtjt
    @thtjt 9 лет назад +6

    4:58
    "he is so gud"

  • @xoxchickenoodles
    @xoxchickenoodles 3 года назад

    Why did we go over this 20000 times in primary school

  • @escolainteramericago
    @escolainteramericago 6 лет назад

    could you let me contribute to portuguese translation for your video?

  • @katzykatz5847
    @katzykatz5847 9 лет назад

    There are two things of great interest to scientists. One is whether the results of an experiment have been replicated. Two is whether a particular theory explains the data. Austin's remarkable progress in drawing hasn't been replicated by other Year One students which is odd because year one students do lot of drawing lessons involving peer critiquing and feedback. The first three pictures Austin drew are consistent with the drawing abilities of a Year One student as is the body in the fourth picture. In between drawing the body and wings in the fourth picture, Austin suddenly developed the ability to draw in a manner similar to grown up using tracing techniques for assistance. His style of drafting also changed markedly. To try to claim that this change in drawing ability came about due to peer feedback is like claiming that a Year One student went from adding single digit numbers to solving quadratic trinomials in a single lesson just because it was a really good lesson. Defining mediocrity as a Year One student drawing like a Year One student and then defining excellence as a Year One student drawing like an adult, is an insult to the (apparently quite few) teachers who actually have an interest in childrens' drawing. Mr Berger, you are a charlatan.

    • @briantaylor9791
      @briantaylor9791 8 лет назад

      +Katzy Katz This appears to be WWW-EBI. It isnt rocket science or any other. I am not sure about the "used the eyes of a scientist" thing but such is life.
      The early drafts improved as a result of feedback, and the feedback given here was very valid and would have led to improvement.
      I use this when talking to learners about concept formation and prototyping rather than drawing, but I think it is just a little crazy to start talking here in terms of experiements and replicability.
      "The wings need to be more pointed" is good feedback, we don't need an RCT to check this out, teaching really as difficult as you would like to make out. Get over it (in the nicest possible way).

  • @sheilaceccarelli8981
    @sheilaceccarelli8981 8 лет назад +1

    Austin certainly used the eye and perseverance of an artist and scientist here. Thank you for highlighting drawing as a core skill for learning, analyzing and understanding the world around and celebrating drawing, looking, and the perseverance of a keen learner. Well done Austin! Sheila AccessArt www.accessart.org.uk

  • @susandelly3367
    @susandelly3367 2 года назад

    Wow, I'll definitely be more aware of my feedback. Kids really are capable of anything.

  • @flemingtonps
    @flemingtonps 12 лет назад

    This backs up John Hattie's research nicely. Read / search for "Visible Learning"...

  • @Nick-cc3cf
    @Nick-cc3cf 6 лет назад

    Its so cute and that teacher is so AMAZING

  • @antondevries6408
    @antondevries6408 10 лет назад

    Great buildinglearningpower example!!

  • @acdavis418
    @acdavis418 10 лет назад

    anyone know how to put this in my power point so frustrated!!! i down loaded it

  • @pds1981
    @pds1981 10 лет назад

    Looking forward to Ron Berger as our Keynote Speaker for #PBLny in Syracuse, NY today! Aug. 8, 2014 OCM BOCES

  • @claudiamiquelino4861
    @claudiamiquelino4861 5 лет назад

    Fantastic class!!!

  • @ylvaolausson
    @ylvaolausson 11 лет назад

    Amazing white shirt and tie and good-looking male teacher, will that ever happen in Sweden? In our primary school the majority of the teachers are female and the dress code is non-existing. And the teaching!!! I am 50+ and still cannot draw like that young Austin :-)

    • @veronicawendin3711
      @veronicawendin3711 11 лет назад +1

      School in the U.S wasn't like this 40 years ago....we work with peer feedback in Swedish schools today too...and why do you comment on his "good looks"? Seems very superficial and has nothing to do with formative assessment...

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    @frankapp6449 7 лет назад

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  • @DEFCON1xOFFICIAL
    @DEFCON1xOFFICIAL 7 лет назад +2

    i had to do home work about this why

  • @tomeaton31
    @tomeaton31 10 лет назад

    I watch this in school EVREY DAY its AMAZING but watching it every day is annoying

  • @haileymays3407
    @haileymays3407 6 лет назад

    Hello and thanks for this now my class is doing this so yea thanks a lot for sharing this awesome video thanks for this by the way my class loved it

  • @wrestlingwithfaith
    @wrestlingwithfaith 5 лет назад

    Awesome video, I am going to use similar techniques with my KS3 and KS4 students

  • @randomperson8367
    @randomperson8367 7 лет назад

    the last draft looks like a dried butterfly to me
    nut its propably my dark mind

  • @basilleonardo
    @basilleonardo 5 лет назад

    You mean, "like an artist." and "used the eyes of an artist." :)

  • @AngusJones
    @AngusJones 11 лет назад +1

    hahaha! the kid at the beginning! "i knew it!". and the girl in the red cardigan had slugs as eyebrows!

  • @paulthompson1294
    @paulthompson1294 9 лет назад

    It's also a great example of poor initial instruction. 'Draw a butterfly' is not the best starting instruction to get the outcome expected. I mean he did what he was told the first time. He 'forgot' to look at it like a scientist? He clearly wasn't given any initial help or instruction to draw it the way the teacher wanted.
    There are key guidelines and help that can be given to make students think more about what they are doing in the first place and to draw a 'scientific drawing'. I've had plenty of students who say I can't draw, but with clear instruction and guidance they do fine drawing scientifically on the first go (and then improve further with feedback).
    I'm not saying feedback and critique aren't good things and helpful. Or that it isn't a magical transformation from the feedback given.

  • @lukealan1126
    @lukealan1126 10 лет назад

    I knew it! 0:46 Hahaha IGN would laugh again :D

  • @verydenise
    @verydenise Год назад

    yet!

  • @amycolgan6031
    @amycolgan6031 8 лет назад

    We were asked to look at this for our college work and feedback on how we would apply this in our practise as teaching assistants. Rather than saying to students 'good work' I will try to give them some constructive feedback. So for example, they have written a story but not done an opening sentence or ended it, i would suggest thinking about how we begin stories. to think of the story as a draft that can be improved upon and then revisited again and again so they can do their best work ever.

  • @JUSTSHEKO-v7s
    @JUSTSHEKO-v7s Год назад

    Omg it’s 2023 we have flying cars now🎉🎉

  • @KhangaiByambadorj
    @KhangaiByambadorj Год назад

    Glazing fr 😭🙏🙏

  • @amberdamen
    @amberdamen 5 лет назад

    WOW! Thank you!

  • @oreoluwaolatunji8376
    @oreoluwaolatunji8376 3 месяца назад

    Insightful.

  • @victoriaridgway2286
    @victoriaridgway2286 3 года назад

    This was so sweet

  • @vickitardino2241
    @vickitardino2241 8 лет назад

    Love it!

  • @kamarbrodie4209
    @kamarbrodie4209 6 лет назад

    We all know he printed it to look good

  • @StCrowleyable
    @StCrowleyable 11 лет назад

    I felt like one of the 2nd graders watching this.

  • @mariapettersson5522
    @mariapettersson5522 11 лет назад

    Amazing!

  • @fromemediaarts
    @fromemediaarts 8 лет назад

    Great - inspiring

  • @abbepancake8079
    @abbepancake8079 3 года назад

    Ursäkta mig men jag tror inte på att Austin har ritad den där fjärilen!!!!!!!

  • @melissasuchodolskiy5994
    @melissasuchodolskiy5994 9 лет назад

    i wasint ready

  • @randomperson8367
    @randomperson8367 7 лет назад

    austin
    wow

  • @lilywong7527
    @lilywong7527 8 лет назад

    Hi

  • @MissNessaBless
    @MissNessaBless 12 лет назад

    this was so interesting

  • @Saaaaaqib
    @Saaaaaqib 3 года назад +1

    Love this :)

  • @joerutherford8543
    @joerutherford8543 5 лет назад

    cool video

  • @anilkumaradjodha9379
    @anilkumaradjodha9379 3 года назад

    merci.

  • @ethansammut7626
    @ethansammut7626 8 лет назад

    buterful, you get me

  • @JacobRetz
    @JacobRetz 2 месяца назад

    He just had to throw some shade at "regular schools" 😒

  • @Tr15t3n
    @Tr15t3n 11 лет назад

    That was my class

  • @anndierks7516
    @anndierks7516 11 лет назад +1

    får jag nga minuter av din tid....

  • @ptolerthenutter5720
    @ptolerthenutter5720 7 лет назад

    If any schools see this comment... HHHHHEEEEELLLLOOOOOO

  • @luukdebruine4615
    @luukdebruine4615 10 лет назад

    Knap dat hij dat zo jong kan!

  • @user-yq6oo1qh6b
    @user-yq6oo1qh6b 5 месяцев назад

    It’s useful

  • @JulesWebbAnimation
    @JulesWebbAnimation 9 лет назад

    van driessen

  • @whateveriam12
    @whateveriam12 6 лет назад

    Came here from my school.

  • @maxbjork9787
    @maxbjork9787 2 года назад +1

    disliked, my teacher forced us to watch it

  • @Tr15t3n
    @Tr15t3n 11 лет назад

    2 grade

  • @jaycottee9606
    @jaycottee9606 8 лет назад

    yay i did good

  • @frfrffrfrf-xk1wd
    @frfrffrfrf-xk1wd 9 месяцев назад

    people here from school?

  • @unknown_identity_mystery
    @unknown_identity_mystery Год назад

    lets end racism
    🐵🤜🏿🤛👦🏼