Nice vid, great ZF. Only thing I don't like about this was the way in which the bus was started - no need to rev the guts out on startup. Apart from that, great stuff :)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. The start up part, I commonly see bus captains here doing that upon start up though, I'm not sure if its supposed to warm the engine or what not after sitting for a day or so.
@@TheMatsushitaMan But I've learned in driving school for a car and basically any other conventional fuel engine (my driving instructor was pretty fierce about it) not to do that when the engine is cold, because you are requesting power from a device that still needs to heat up fully before it might reach either the correct amount of lubrication for either the engine itself or the gearbox or turbo, or even certain tolerances in the engine block. I think I recall him warning about the risk of warping parts otherwise due to the excessive heat build-up in one area while a different part is still supercold.
I remember those striders. They were at service 38 at the time. On weekends they would be at service 20 Great thing you captured some so that i can remember the good days
They look similar but not the same. Especially the front where the route number is, strider is more slanted. At the back near the roof, strider has a three rectangle design while DM3500 does not. Seating arrangement is also slightly different, strider has that big legroom seat behind the exit door.
You don't rev a cold engine to redline straight on startup. Gotta let the oil to get through the engine & just let it warm up a bit. Perth companies generally have a policy of no revving over anywhere from 800-1500 rpm for the first few minutes after startup.
Yup it's definitely not healthy for the bus, but we were just having a bit of fun as the bus was due to be scrapped very soon. Singapore has a policy that prohibits any public buses over the age of 17-20 years to remain on the roads due to "safety reasons". Requests to preserve the buses as static displays have also been rejected as the authority literally said there is no point in preserving buses.
@@glitchFan2428 Yeah, that's absolute rubbish. We have had buses make it to 32 & still be 99% safe. They could at least offer them to overseas preservationists, who can actually run them & not take up space in a densely populated country like Singapore.
@@tp2981b8 We have tried to purchase buses in the past for export and were outright denied. The bus company went as far as to say that what if they sell us the vehicle with the company name on it and we use it to commit malicious acts overseas. In one case we even got the green light from the bus company after agreeing to strip the bus of it's livery, but when it came to approaching the government authorities in charge of vehicle registration, they couldn't be bothered to transfer the ownership to us citing "complications" and off it went to the scrapyard. In Singapore no one in the government will help you unless there's an obvious benefit for them.
@@glitchFan2428 Well, I'd need to pay them a lot more than the actual value I guess if I wanted a bus then. That's why I'm happy SMB138Y made it to Perth for me to preserve.
@@tp2981b8 I'm glad to hear that! 138Y was a different case apparently since that bus from my knowledge was deregistered when it was rather new. In rare cases like this the bus can be driven on Singapore roads as a private bus until it reaches it's lifespan, 135E is still running under this scheme. For end of lifespan purchases, I guess it's not impossible since SBS9168S was successfully exported to The UK for preservation, making it the only ex Singapore bus to be preserved in it's original condition.
The bus was already scheduled for retirement before this video was taken actually. All buses here have a statutory lifespan, after which the bus must be taken off the roads. Preservation is sadly not allowed.
lol i only thought EGR engines need to do that so that those carbon deposits or some sort can be burn off. Like that the dpf at the end of the exhaust will not be. blocked. Looks like you took this on 12 plus am right, only passenger for the whole ride.
0:45 is when ZF Ecolife,Voith and ZF Ecomat joined forces.
They are called chiongster buses for a reason... really missed them as childhood buses especially the great ZF revving sound!
Nice vid, great ZF. Only thing I don't like about this was the way in which the bus was started - no need to rev the guts out on startup. Apart from that, great stuff :)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. The start up part, I commonly see bus captains here doing that upon start up though, I'm not sure if its supposed to warm the engine or what not after sitting for a day or so.
***** The engine did not explode. No guts were spilled
No guts were spilled, the engine is OK
@@TheMatsushitaMan But I've learned in driving school for a car and basically any other conventional fuel engine (my driving instructor was pretty fierce about it) not to do that when the engine is cold, because you are requesting power from a device that still needs to heat up fully before it might reach either the correct amount of lubrication for either the engine itself or the gearbox or turbo, or even certain tolerances in the engine block.
I think I recall him warning about the risk of warping parts otherwise due to the excessive heat build-up in one area while a different part is still supercold.
@@Dutch3DMaster That's true
I remember those striders. They were at service 38 at the time. On weekends they would be at service 20
Great thing you captured some so that i can remember the good days
Thanks, I too wanted something to remember the buses by hence I take all these videos
i very rarely use the words "beast" or "hellfire" but THAT BEAST IS FUCKING HELLFIRE!!!!!!
OMG!!! This sounds absolutely amazing haha! :D Great video!!! :P
Jesus Christ that sounds absolutely epic.
Indeed!!! God I miss these buses, especially the ZF ones. It's been more than 4 years since they sent the entire fleet to the scrap heap..
Wow, this reminds me of SBS1969A... Man, lovely kickdowns!
this shows that the b10m is very strong and lta scrapping them is the equivalent of losing an important part of your army base
damm that red-lining at the start
Wish I was on it.Damn love the Kickdown
0:40 demonic sound for headphone users
People at 2am : I sleep
2623R at 2am : *VROOOOMM VROOOOOMM*
whats the diff between the strider and dm3500? they look the same on the outside and inside
They look similar but not the same. Especially the front where the route number is, strider is more slanted. At the back near the roof, strider has a three rectangle design while DM3500 does not. Seating arrangement is also slightly different, strider has that big legroom seat behind the exit door.
You don't rev a cold engine to redline straight on startup. Gotta let the oil to get through the engine & just let it warm up a bit. Perth companies generally have a policy of no revving over anywhere from 800-1500 rpm for the first few minutes after startup.
Yup it's definitely not healthy for the bus, but we were just having a bit of fun as the bus was due to be scrapped very soon. Singapore has a policy that prohibits any public buses over the age of 17-20 years to remain on the roads due to "safety reasons". Requests to preserve the buses as static displays have also been rejected as the authority literally said there is no point in preserving buses.
@@glitchFan2428 Yeah, that's absolute rubbish. We have had buses make it to 32 & still be 99% safe. They could at least offer them to overseas preservationists, who can actually run them & not take up space in a densely populated country like Singapore.
@@tp2981b8 We have tried to purchase buses in the past for export and were outright denied. The bus company went as far as to say that what if they sell us the vehicle with the company name on it and we use it to commit malicious acts overseas. In one case we even got the green light from the bus company after agreeing to strip the bus of it's livery, but when it came to approaching the government authorities in charge of vehicle registration, they couldn't be bothered to transfer the ownership to us citing "complications" and off it went to the scrapyard. In Singapore no one in the government will help you unless there's an obvious benefit for them.
@@glitchFan2428 Well, I'd need to pay them a lot more than the actual value I guess if I wanted a bus then. That's why I'm happy SMB138Y made it to Perth for me to preserve.
@@tp2981b8 I'm glad to hear that! 138Y was a different case apparently since that bus from my knowledge was deregistered when it was rather new. In rare cases like this the bus can be driven on Singapore roads as a private bus until it reaches it's lifespan, 135E is still running under this scheme. For end of lifespan purchases, I guess it's not impossible since SBS9168S was successfully exported to The UK for preservation, making it the only ex Singapore bus to be preserved in it's original condition.
Is this the last bus of service 292
If in doubt, drive it flat out!
Lovely!
Sounds like a monster
Insane. Very very F1 bus
I remember taking this soooo often...
It was so good!
I Like The Sound Of The B10M
With the howling sound of the ZF Ecomat of course!
That's call memory sound
No wonder why the bus is retired by revving the shit out of it like that on a start up
The bus was already scheduled for retirement before this video was taken actually. All buses here have a statutory lifespan, after which the bus must be taken off the roads. Preservation is sadly not allowed.
lol i only thought EGR engines need to do that so that those carbon deposits or some sort can be burn off. Like that the dpf at the end of the exhaust will not be. blocked. Looks like you took this on 12 plus am right, only passenger for the whole ride.
tay wei jie All I can say is that is was much later than 12 plus, notice the entire interchange is empty of ppl/buses? :)
Why only you are in?
This is taken at 2am, during bus operation extension on March 2015 due to LKY state funeral. That's why there isn't any demand.
Redline revs. 8D
Nothing can beat TIB1115D
SBS1969A can beat TIB1115D :)
engine near explode