I think you misinterpreted the Doctor's angry speech to Wilf. He was so angry because he knew that this was the end for him, that he would without a shadow of a doubt go in and save Wilf no matter how desperate he was to survive because that's who he is. Overall End of Time is an amazing mess. The first episode has far more problems than the second, and the second makes up for any of it's mistake tenfold. It's definitely better overall than twice upon a time and time of the doctor but against bad wolf/parting of the ways. That's a different story.
The End of Time is similar to Journey’s End as to why I don’t enjoy RTD’s episodes as a whole. I’ve never understood why it’s so beloved, I’ve really tried to come around to it, but I’m just more of a Classic Who and Moffat era person.
I can't agree with your take but I basically think that's one is the best things about a show as varied and long as this one. Also as a RTD era fan I think Eot sucks.
I think you can can get away with a lot of the fan stuff, if your characters work well. I quite like journeys end for that reason. End of time misses that so I never enjoy it in the same way
Gonna be honest with you. When the story was new, I hated it. Loathed it. Despised it with every fibre of my being. I'm a lot cooler on it *now*, in part because a lot worse has come along since, but... Frankly, it's emblematic of a lot of problems with RTD's writing style. He often favours spectacle over good narrative sense. Now, I'm writing this comment *before* watching your video, I want to note, so you may cover or refute some of these points, and if you do I shall make edits to reply to what you say. The first thing that bothers me is the Master's revival. Looking at it as an amateur writer, it's so wasteful and pointless, and doesn't add anything to the plot. If I could have bent RTD's ear back then I would have asked him this simple question: "Why didn't you use the immortality gate to revive him?" The other plot point that still bothers me is Donna falling unconscious with that psychic knockout wave. It illustrates a lack of writing courage. The easy way out taken, rather than any effort put in to saving her. Perhaps he could not think of a good way to do it - after all, The Master could have hidden her anywhere on Earth and had her eliminated via a phone call, which would have made it too difficult to save her. On the other hand, that's a terrific piece of tension, and a writer *should* crave the chance to put their character through the emotional wringer figuring out a way out of that impossible situation. It is also a remarkable contrivance. Makes it easy! If there's one other thing I would have suggested, make it a three part story instead of two. First part ends with the Master Race bit. Then the second part ends with the Time Lords returning - and the last episode deals with The Doctor and the Master collaborating to stop the Time Lords from ending time itself. There's a lot you could do there, with 45 minutes to play with it. I guess, in retrospect, the thing that annoys me about it is the wasted potential. Edit: Quick reminder that 4th died from a less intense fall than 10th had in this story. And he landed on grass rather than falling through a skylight and onto a hard floor.
I think we hit the same points there. I like the idea of a 3 parter but it wasn't to be. I do wonder what would happen if you cut a plot. Take out the timelord victorious and you'll have a good half an hour to establish fixes for the remaining plots.
I’ve never cared much for The End of Time. Always been one of my least liked regeneration stories, and definitely the weakest one of the modern series imo.
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I think you misinterpreted the Doctor's angry speech to Wilf. He was so angry because he knew that this was the end for him, that he would without a shadow of a doubt go in and save Wilf no matter how desperate he was to survive because that's who he is.
Overall End of Time is an amazing mess. The first episode has far more problems than the second, and the second makes up for any of it's mistake tenfold. It's definitely better overall than twice upon a time and time of the doctor but against bad wolf/parting of the ways. That's a different story.
The End of Time is similar to Journey’s End as to why I don’t enjoy RTD’s episodes as a whole. I’ve never understood why it’s so beloved, I’ve really tried to come around to it, but I’m just more of a Classic Who and Moffat era person.
I can't agree with your take but I basically think that's one is the best things about a show as varied and long as this one. Also as a RTD era fan I think Eot sucks.
I think you can can get away with a lot of the fan stuff, if your characters work well. I quite like journeys end for that reason. End of time misses that so I never enjoy it in the same way
I like The End of Time
I think I got the remote control Dalek from my parents the same year…. Except I was 22 😄
Amazing I hope you looked after it more than I did. i lost the ears and the eye stalk broke off.
i remember the masters revival kinda confusing me when i watched it. and im still not sure i completely understand it LOL
Makes more sense than all the nonsense post 2017. I’d rather watch 24 hours of fear her than the Chibnall non-cannon and RTD lobotomy 2 eras.
@ i love all of doctor who even the new stuff.
There is so many things that are set up really well, but this one comes from no where
@ yes but i LOVE IT anyway :3
Gonna be honest with you. When the story was new, I hated it. Loathed it. Despised it with every fibre of my being. I'm a lot cooler on it *now*, in part because a lot worse has come along since, but...
Frankly, it's emblematic of a lot of problems with RTD's writing style. He often favours spectacle over good narrative sense. Now, I'm writing this comment *before* watching your video, I want to note, so you may cover or refute some of these points, and if you do I shall make edits to reply to what you say.
The first thing that bothers me is the Master's revival. Looking at it as an amateur writer, it's so wasteful and pointless, and doesn't add anything to the plot. If I could have bent RTD's ear back then I would have asked him this simple question: "Why didn't you use the immortality gate to revive him?"
The other plot point that still bothers me is Donna falling unconscious with that psychic knockout wave. It illustrates a lack of writing courage. The easy way out taken, rather than any effort put in to saving her. Perhaps he could not think of a good way to do it - after all, The Master could have hidden her anywhere on Earth and had her eliminated via a phone call, which would have made it too difficult to save her. On the other hand, that's a terrific piece of tension, and a writer *should* crave the chance to put their character through the emotional wringer figuring out a way out of that impossible situation. It is also a remarkable contrivance. Makes it easy!
If there's one other thing I would have suggested, make it a three part story instead of two. First part ends with the Master Race bit. Then the second part ends with the Time Lords returning - and the last episode deals with The Doctor and the Master collaborating to stop the Time Lords from ending time itself. There's a lot you could do there, with 45 minutes to play with it.
I guess, in retrospect, the thing that annoys me about it is the wasted potential.
Edit: Quick reminder that 4th died from a less intense fall than 10th had in this story. And he landed on grass rather than falling through a skylight and onto a hard floor.
I think we hit the same points there. I like the idea of a 3 parter but it wasn't to be. I do wonder what would happen if you cut a plot. Take out the timelord victorious and you'll have a good half an hour to establish fixes for the remaining plots.
I’ve never cared much for The End of Time. Always been one of my least liked regeneration stories, and definitely the weakest one of the modern series imo.
no
Just your opinion and no one cares about this
I’m not saying it’s fact or that your wrong for liking it