Miss South Africa Finalist Chidimma Adetshina Faces Xenophobic Backlash | Firstpost Africa
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- Miss South Africa Finalist Chidimma Adetshina Faces Xenophobic Backlash | Firstpost Africa
The Miss South Africa competition has become a centre of debate on national identity and xenophobia. Chidimma Adetshina, a 2024 Miss South Africa pageant finalist, has been subjected to online hate and abuse with many users questioning her identity and participation in the competition. Adetshina was born in South Africa to a Nigerian father and a mother of Mozambican descent. But as she moves closer to the crown, criticism against her has intensified. Many critics say she identifies more with Nigeria than South Africa. The country's minister of art, sport and culture Gayton McKenzie also jumped into the debate. Watch this video for details.
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The word xenophobia is only reserved for South Africa.
Oligarchs reserved for Russians 😂😂😂😂
Coz you guys are xenophobes tf😂 but on this issue I'm with the xenophobes coz she's Nigerian
thats what u become against your brothers but during arpartheid we gave u refuge
@@blackexcellencevisuals. same way oligarchs is reserved for wealthy Russians
Yes, it is reserved for South Africa
Xenophobia word no longer scared us…just because we’re all blacks doesn’t make us brothers
I think afro phobia is the word.
xenophobic
@@fredrikr6280Good and stop coming to our country
@@MIA-fq1di but orania should be left to thrive but your fellow A, Should not thrive.With this mindset we will always lag behind. Just like the dangote refineries being undermined, pple the development of one part of africa should interest us all, because it means that we are collectively rising.
@@MIA-fq1diwhy would I come to your country? But you can take back SA working in my South American country.
Every complaint and concern by South Africans can't always to dismissed as being Xenophobic. That really has to stop.
Thus one is clearly xenophobic
Its becoming tiresome and boring
We don't care anymore
Thank you. It's like we can't have disagreements and debates without them trying to shut is up by saying our opinions are xenophobic as if we should shut and bend over take whatever they shove down our throats
@@butler2149its not. Nobody said she must leave the country or hurting her or stopping her from being a model. Just dont be the face of South African culture when you have no ties to South Africa
Mothers are proud of their children's achievements. If the mother was South African she should have long availed herself.
Should I say, well said
God bless
Thank you 💕...
Chidinma's family doesn't owe any of you haters any explanation.
@@rotimikayode1072 we want South Africans to represent South Africa and we don't owe you any explanation
@@musamagubane7118 Don't you understand the difference between citizenship and nativity. It is illegal and immoral to tell a citizen that he or she doesn't belong because of their ethnic backgrounds. That is called racism.
@@rotimikayode1072they actually do if she wants to represent South Africans.
Xenophobia will happen when this girl is not disqualified. One thing for sure is South Africans are tired of this nonsense. WE WILL BOYCOTT MISS SA
She should be get all the facts use your logic
@lylm4147
Have you heard about the role of a constitution in defining citizenship and rights within a country? In South Africa, the constitution dictates these matters. If you believe that changes are necessary-such as excluding individuals born in South Africa to non-South African parents from citizenship-it's crucial to address this through appropriate legal and political channels. Until any such changes are made, individuals in this situation are considered full South African citizens with the same rights as others.
It's disheartening to see hostility among Africans. Historically, we have supported each other significantly. For instance, many schools were built in South Africa through contributions from Nigerian and Cameroonian students.
Instead of directing this negativity toward fellow Africans, consider addressing similar issues where they genuinely exist, such as in predominantly white communities that have created exclusive spaces. There is a larger issue at play, where external forces seek to divide us by borders and foster disunity among Africans.
We must recognize our shared heritage and work together against common challenges. By understanding our common identity as Africans, we can unite to confront collective adversities. Divisiveness only serves those who aim to weaken us.
our unity and collaboration are vital for progress. It is crucial to address these issues with empathy and understanding, rather than allowing historical grievances and internal divisions to hinder our collective advancement.
Well done South Africans. People who suffered under Apartheid. You're all clowns now...
I will not watch it
If you are tired, go get your land back from the colonizers
Here we go again with propaganda, painted with the word "Xenophobic" Its getting boring
@@aphiwemay2493 You need re-education, re-orientation and enlightenment. Is this how far apartheid has damaged some of you that you are now into oppressing the ethnic minority citizens amongst you.
@@rotimikayode1072That's rubbish , you must re learn ,re -educate in your own Country .
They are always fighting us over our country,,but we don't go to their countries and fight over what belongs to them, they they have big mouth here but in their countries things are worse, and they don't even talk,but here they are so loud, they run away from their problems,, one day PA will run this country and habo lona ke naheng,ek se ver julle
This is Xenophobic behavior in every way
@@pinkyjafta3292they have anger issues and they impress it on wrong ppl 😂😂😂
I don't believe she is South african and should not compete...she should pull out now
@@valbruyns7947 They are going to call you Xenophobic 😂😂😂
Miss South Africa organization refuse to do such, and next weekend, they will announce Miss South Africa
@@Zee_n1098 Lol, we should add that word as our permanent middle name.😂😂😂😂
@@nomxhosapekani7966 Ye nono sesida siyalithanda😂😂😂😂
She must compete for Miss Africa
I am waiting for the day Nigeria will have Nontsikelelo Buthelezi as their Miss Nigeria,I cant wait for this African ism to apply to every part of Africa😅 not only in SA
South Africa had Vanessa Carreira as the queen in. 2001 . She was Portuguese never had any complaints
@@butler2149we don't care we still don't want chidima
If she was born in Nigeria and lives in Nigeria, then she's Nigerian
@nomzimasinyalela5080 hahahahahah that would be the day indeed it will never happen because in other countries they respect their low unlike our own government that put us under foreigners
@@butler2149 Context - Her name is like any other name of a Portuguese South African and since the Portuguese community has been in ths region for centuries no one would have suspected that Vanessa could possibly be a recent immigrant...That's if she was because I don't know.. Mind you she was proudly South African too so why would anything but her raise eyebrows ?
With her parents silence clearly shows that she’s not South African. Miss SA organisers should change the tittle to Miss Africa
Being south African is one of the worst thing to have ever happened to me. Shit hold county.SA
Firstly, this is a domestic debate - South Africans are entitled to discuss their internal issues without people with little understanding of our context imposing their opinions - we don't agree on this issue but it is worth discussing...
This may be your domestice issue but citizen laws aren't hidden. I have read it in your government's website and many of you are so ignorant of what the Act says. You need to start reading and stop ignorance ans hatred.
This is not about laws - this is what I mean about people commenting from a distance - the debate is about cultural representation on the world stage...
Hear how ignorant you sound!
Maybe, I should have commented from your room.
Cultural representation was NOT a criterion for participating in the pageantry. CITIZENSHIP is. And what exactly do you mean by cutlural representation? Wearing SA's attire or dancing to SA's tunes? She has been carryoing series of community social activities in SA. You want her renounce her Nigerian citizenship to ipress you Afro-xenophobic apologists.
Please get some sense. How many of the past winners who particpated and won but were not even close to what Chidimma is represented SA culturally. You guys are sick ! Once again, one of the criteria for participation in the pageantry is CITIZENSHIP.
No one is imposing an opinion. They are simply reporting based on their investigation. It’s quite pathetic that you will always see yourself as a victim. These people are simply doing their job. No one is imposing any opinion. They have presented the facts and maybe their narrative isn’t completely unbiased but that doesn’t mean they are imposing an opinion on you. You’re not a victim stop deluding yourself
@@KatRSA
I hope you know that as at August 7, the investigation was still going on? How does your Home Affairs describe a case that is still under investigation a FRAUD? You guys must be jokers.
Don't twist it, if the investigation is completed and they have concrete evidence to say that, then that's ok, but this is not the case, at least not yet.
If her mother committed fraud, your Home Office should be able to establish how it happened and whihc of your government officials collected huge amount of money to do that. You don't push away the corruption and the irresponsibility of your government as though it never happened.
How is a 9 year old child that was smuggled into South Africa a South African?? That kid was 9 years when her Dad came for World Cup in SA in 2010....Our Question is how did she acquire a Citizenship cause both her parents aren't South African, her stepmother is South African which her Dad met in 2010. We want her biological mother to come forward & claim her kid. We are tired of Nigerians who are always buying their way out in everything. If our government is failing to protect us, we are a Generation that's not scared to protect itself.
If is like that straight she's not south African
She got citizenship the same way your people get it when they move to England and live there for a certain period of time..
@@duhuzebosco6207 Exactly, why even debate this???
Generation of xenophobia. Pathetic and shameful
@@tonero8562 But I'm not shocked, I hit home.... You are Nigerian and your problem is one will tell you something so you can understand but instead you rush to answer with no understanding & write nonsense like that one you jus wrote. I told you that Xenophobic card you play when you are being called out is old. In future read to understand before you attack & I'm done here. Font have time to be arguing with fools like you....
She doesn't represent us 😒mara news la bora. Le batla xenophobia?
I bet Nigerians will be at the airport when she wins Miss Universe😂 than they will take her to Sunnyside, and she will parade. We have a different way of celebrating our wins in South Africa look like Zozibini when citizens welcomed her at the airport and than she went to Cape Town and Eastern Cape where the Xhosa nation continue to celebrate her in Xhosa tradition.
She got married to Nigerian man, got divorced and has a son but still she wants to be "MISS SOUTH AFRICA"....i fail to understand how so
😢😢😢 they are taking South Africa 🇿🇦 for granted,
You are not gonna dictate to us what to think,this emotional blackmail of calling us xenophobia is getting lame now,we don't have give hoot.
It is nothing more than a manipulative tool to create a sense of guilt in South Africans, they know South Africa is very welcoming, ironically, their own history proves their own xenophobia towards their fellow Africans, South Africa is just their latest target.
If she was born in SA then she is South African. That's how it works all over the world.
@@diligenceeke3023 South African citizenship is not acquired by birth.
One of your parents must South African whether you were born in South Africa or anywhere in the world
@@diligenceeke3023It doesn’t work like that in Nigeria if a South African is born there they’re not the igbo or yoruba
She and her mother have South African passports. They are bonafide citizens. Your opinions about them are completely useless.
While South Africa is fighting hard for Palestinians to show the world that they care🤣 but back home they are hating on their fellow Africans on a daily basis.
Hypocryts
@@kibuuserobert4971 biggest hypocrites
Now i know that Africa is truly cursed
We accuse the whites of racism but yet do the worse to one another
We won't be represented by a Nigerian fullstop
Tell me 1 County that love Nigeria
She had a kid & she was married She is not south African she was not born in south Africa
But are they allowed to compete.
It is easy for foreigners to buy citizenship.
Such a role model for young girls sies
You would have to be foolish to believe these rumours. Does she even look like she has had a kid? She looks like a kid herself. Or do you think every African woman has a baby at a young age? Truth be told teen/ young adult pregnancies are mainly predominant in Bantu South African women born to South African fathers.
@alettaphalatsi477 no proof of that yet your self hate and Afrophobia prevents you from using your brain. Where is the proof that she is married? Or she has had a kid?
You can call us xenophobic we don't care
for real, we don't care.
we don't care a damn !
Don’t die with so much hatred . Not worth spending eternity in hell🤷🏾♀️ but choice it yours and Your xenophobia can’t stop God’s favour on whom God chooses to favour
@@chy1356 we will live a longer and happier life knowing that we don bow down to arrogance and bullying from Nigeria. We are doing a service for our fellow South Africans who deserve to have a fair chance to represent us.
@@kagimanye1757no one ever lives longer with bitterness, anger, jealousy or hatred. I repeat not worth spending eternity in hell but hey the choice is yours🤷🏾♀️. Just a reminder there is a difference between being bold or having self confidence and arrogance 😂5:05
She was not born in Soweto , she was born in Nigeria fullstop . She bought ID like Unisa professors
They took Standard of SA education to their level
😢😢
Before making any comment, people should listen to how the South African Home Affairst Department citizenship process works. Being born in a country doesn't equal citizenship. It is wise to be enlightened before making any comment.
Maybe south africans should not work in my country then..and I am South American.
@@fredrikr6280go tell your government that not us.. We are not in south America
@@fredrikr6280 As a South American can you enter Miss USA ? Can a South African enter Miss South America if there is such a pageant there ?
@@kabelomorapa1482 nope we are not xenophobic . But we did kick out a few SA. Mostly the white ones. They thought they could treat us like they do black South Africans ..one almost got 💀 by villagers..😂
@@fredrikr6280 i see
This Generation is not to be messed with, we allowed a lot of nonsense in this country & not again. When Dutch settlers got Citizenships we were not there & this time around we ain't sleeping not to be ripped by our fellow Africans
Well wake up and smell the coffee, the white minority still has a big say in the way the country is run. You can continue bickering about the origin/descent of a Miss South Africa contestant if it makes you happy.
Ripped by representing you in a positive way. Please go and get something meaningful to do and stop spreading hatred.
@lylm4147Then gonna change the law but before then, she is a citizen and has the right to represent the country. And she is even doing that in a positive capacity. Stop spreading hatred
@@tonero8562 No ripped to serve their own selfish desires.... She knows the benefits she will rip after that tittle... And after that tittle she will represent her father's Country that she went and celebrated her success so far with. There was not even one South African in her Celebratory video clip, All Nigerians making noise probably even laughing at us that they got us.Her not having a South African flag BUT Nigerian & Mozambican flag in her Instagram bio before she removed them when they came to fore was a clear indication that she is not a Proud South African which is what we want as South Africans, someone who is proud of who they say they are. She is proudly Nigerian & it's her right. We jus don't want her go be our Ambassador.
@@tonero8562 We've been played the "Stop hatred" card a lot & right now it definitely means nothing because Nigerians hate each other & only Unite when they are fighting us😂😂😂😂😂.... Bring something else that card doesn't work here it expired!
Nothing xenophobic about questioning wheres shes from .
If shes not South african she doesn't deserve been in the competition
Why when South Africans ask a simple question it is xenophobic we are a welcoming nation
You are not enlightened. Every country has valid and bonafide citizens with foreign descents. There are South Africans who are also citizens of other countries too. Are you still in the stone age.
@rotimikayode1072 you are not enlighten let me reiterate We Are A Welcoming Rainbow Nation
@@rotimikayode1072 We agree with that ,we are simply asking for proof that she is a legitimate SA citizen
Where is her South Africa mother's family
Her mother's family is n Mozambique
@@KatRSAYes 😂😂😂😂
We won't be silent
You guys need to issue an apology to our country 😅😅
You talk about Miss Africa or Miss South Africa if is Miss Africa is good.Chidima she can't take part of Miss South Africa never
Who educated dark minded people like you. Every country has valid and bonafide citizens who are not indigenous to their country of residence. You lack emotional and intellectual maturity on this matter. You need enlightenment.
Are you aware that there are actually South Africans who are also citizens of other countries as well. You need enlightenment.
She will and she must.
@@rotimikayode1072 you want to threaten South African people with this
don't be negative
@@rotimikayode1072we know that,n SA welcomes them
It's funny how everyone is against South Africa. Without even caring to know the country' s citizenship requirements and the likes.
I have been keeping up with this and from the South African perspective; I have found out that the early years of her life can't be accounted for, some claim that both parents aren't South African and if she was born in South Africa, she shouldn't be 23 years, because her Dad, hasn't been in South Africa for 23 years.
The society has embraced canceling, bullying and phobia calling of people that are trying to strive ( it doesn't go your way, you can't take advantage of someone else, then just play the victim and put a prefix on the ' phobia '
You know what so bad we must believe what the organization is telling us and that all, but when questions are being asked, they can't come forward and give answers to the questions. They told South Africans that her mother is South African but yet can't tell South Africans about the school she attended and who her mother really is because according to South Africans her stepmother is zulu but not her real mother. No one comes forward because, according to South Africans, once again, they told them she was born at this public hospital , but the hospital don't have any records of her. The other one she was born in the township , but people don't know her, and South Africans in the townships should've come forward long ago telling people that they know her. In her Miss South Africa interview, she said she's from Capetown, so this story of this lady is giving people headaches😂. She never showed anything that represents South Africa because people wonder why the mom didn't gave her a Zulu name but only Nigerian names😂😂😂. Oh, and the last 1 of both her parents are foreigners. Even when she's born in South Africa, she's still a foreigner.
because everyone has been taking advantage of South Africans since1994, and when we say ENOUGH!!!!, they accuse us of xenophobia to silence us.
What really pisses me off is that something like this has never happened in Nigeria, as running for most (all) offices and postings in Nigeria, requires your 'Nigerianess'.
How can you criticize others for what you can't take.
Her stories don't make sense, today she's from Cape town tomorrow she's from Soweto, today her mom is MZQn tomorrow she's Zulu
But they celebrate when descendants of Dutch settlers represent them 🤷🏼♂️
True
No, people bitched about the white south African winning too. If u watched the whole video there has been other white and Asian women to win miss south Africa
@@katlegoloveslifestop self hate we all black Africans
They’d rather allow European-South Africans to hijack their identity than to share collective identity with neighboring Africans. Sad. Genetic Africans competing with Europeans in South Africa for Africanness.
@katlegodidit the winners I'm talking about were born in south Africa or became legal citizens. Just like when black south Africans move to America or Britain or any other European countries legally or illegally they will eventually become a citizen of those places and their children will be European from the day their born. Black Africans can't go to other people's countries and claim to be a citizen to get social services and be cool with that well bitching when it happens in south Africa. Black south Africans can't feed themselves or maintain their infrastructure and their schools are pathetic that's why China is there taking care of them. As black Africans leave for other countries for a better life plan on the other people to leave for your country and others like Mexico. Just cause 3rd world poverty comes to European countries looking for handouts doesn't mean European people are just gonna fund your life. They'll move to where you left and make it better especially since property values are so low compared to European countries. Can't stop white flight
No, not xenophobic. The question is HOW she obtained her citizenship. It may be fraudulent. 🔎 Questions like, where in Soweto was she born? Which primary school or schools did she go too ? Where is her mother? If her mother is South African, where does she live? Chidima may be smuggled in South Africa 🇿🇦 by her Nigerian father. Where are pictures of her as a young child in South Africa 🇿🇦? This is a fraud case, NOT xenophobia case.
On point
Her father says they came in SA in 2010 during World cup and at the time they did not have kids with the South African Mother & yet Chidimma is 23😂.... And we mu's accept that nonsense? Unotshe.We are being ripped here a South African title... Even when she goes to Miss Universe who will she represent, which Culture???
Her Mother is Zimbabwean & Father is Nigerian_she should've got either one of her parent's nationality citizenship
Miss South Africa organization is not truthful in all of this because they are quick to tell people she qualifies and that her mother is South African defending her but fail to answer questions being asked.
@@DarkestInTheRoom actually, her mother is from Mozambique.
Her father said he came to south Africa in 2010 from London & he also got married in 2010 & had her the same year, which would make this woman a 14 year old girl, but she's 23 this year... which is B's... corporate south Africa is to blame for this mess...
U can impregnate someone and marry her 10 yes later I don't see any problem here
May be she was born on 29th of February 😊😅
He has never said that . Stop writing bullshit
@@thewarrenstv1166 yey he did on an interview please get facts straight
That's not her father and she has made a statement distancing herself from that person.
Where are this child's parents, they should just ask her to withdraw.
How was she born in South Africa, when her father clearly stated that he came to South Africa in 2010? She was 9yrs old when the father came to SA. The maths doesn’t add up
Hadassah she settled in SA but had her here before he came permanently. her papers say she is a south african citizen end of
Her parents got married in South Africa in the late 1990s. Your problem is that you get your news from TikTok and Twitter instead of reading an actual newspaper. Please learn to read.
My question is, If a South African lady moved to Nigeria and becomes a citizen of Nigeria, will they allow her to participate in Miss Nigeria and represent them as Miss Nigeria should she win?. What xenophobia?. Why are people from other countries always allowed come and do things in our country that we will never be allowed to do in their country.
Journalists often miss the mark when discussing South Africa, especially regarding African migration. Thousands of educated Africans, including many Nigerians, contribute significantly to our country, often holding positions as deans and professors at our universities. These individuals do not face the backlash aimed at undocumented migrants, who are frequently involved in criminal activities. It’s these criminals, not law-abiding citizens, that South Africans oppose. We’re talking about people fleeing justice in Nigeria, engaging in human trafficking, mutilation, and other heinous crimes. Why should South Africans tolerate this? Yes, we have our own criminals, but do we need to import more?
As for Ms., her participation in a contest that is a source of national pride has drawn scrutiny. Instead of celebrating her South African identity, she highlights her Nigerian and Mozambican heritage on social media. While that’s her choice, she is representing South Africa and should, therefore, show pride in being South African. This scrutiny wouldn’t exist if she had simply embraced her South African identity. Moreover, it's now revealed that her mother possesses a stolen ID, causing significant hardship for the rightful owner, who has struggled to obtain birth certificates for her children due to this fraud. This situation has understandably sparked frustration.
Don't they have Miss Nigeria pageant in Nigeria: the whole Africa is fighting tooth and nail to be SAns : I was told Nigeria is the richest in Africa . She can't represent SA: call me what you like:
Amen
Who told you it only takes place in SA, you call Nigeria the whole of Africa what grade are u
What makes a nine-year-old kid who was brought into South Africa illegally a South African? When her dad visited South Africa for the 2010 World Cup, the child was nine years old.Since her father met her stepmother in 2010 and she is South African, we are curious as to how she obtained her citizenship. We want her real mother to step up and take custody of her child. Nigerians who always try to buy their way out of situations are something we are sick of. We are a generation that doesn't hesitate to defend itself if our government isn't doing its job of keeping us safe.
my african folk ., this is NOT a good look. Mzansi has chinese Misses , white misses , mixed race misses but a 100% Black one ? everyone wants to fight her. Thank God i am from Swaziland. I do not want to be associate with y'all ever. too much self hatred , waaay too much . those 400 years of occupation have done a number in y'alls psychees. The entire batch is going to hell in a hand basket
AN UPDATE!!!. HER MOTHER WAS FOUND TO HAVE A FRAUDULENT PASSPORT AFTER THE HOME OFFICE MINISTER INVESTIGATED!!!
Stop these nonsense about us,we simply asking about here identify.if shes South African then theres nothing wrong.
How would Spain feel if a South african was representing their country?
There are many Africans playing ball in Europe
@@MonroeTeraI don't know about a South African specifically but they had two Africans representing them in the just concluded Euros which they won. I hope this helps.
Good for them
@@vickiebenson7980football? Do you equate this to football?
Some people want a small South Africa 🤷🏼♂️
We need to are home affairs to investigat her mother, Father and this lady. We are tired of being called Xenophobic.
Her mozambican mother must come out and defend her. Or shes scared she'll be found out she obtained our citizenship illegally and that'd condemn her daughter to being an illegal?
Miss South Africa organization is to blame for this. They can't just expect people to take they word on her mother being South African without any proof of such. They are busy telling South Africans her mom is South African, and she was born in Soweto, but when questions are being asked, they are just quiet and fail to answer these necessary questions and come forth telling people they Xenophobic really.
I'm not south African but why when I hear about that country
the only thing that comes to mind is xenophobia
miss sa is for sa only they must put foreigners only if they want
South Africa should be bigger than this; let’s promote nationalism instead of tribalism across Africa as a whole
Our heritage will not be erased in the name African unity. That will happen somewhere in dreamland.
Kindly issue an apology to South Africans for the extremely offensive and misleading slurs that you directed at us whilst having none of the facts.🙏🏾
There's nothing to debate,she's not one of us🇿🇦
It's been said that South Africa is the closest thing to America that you will find on the continent. I am beginning to see what they mean. Buy a ticket to Cape Town and somehow end up in STOCKHOLM!🤦🏾♂️🙅🏾♂️
You think France cares that Mbappe is born to Cameroon and Algerian parents?
we are not france
At least he speaks French
Mbabe speaks French, she doesn't speak any of the SA local languages
@@Nono-uo5df Of course, you can't be France; they are not as racist and xenophobic. That's the point here😂
@neommutle8033is English not an official language in RSA
Oh no she will get booed on stage 😮
24 September is heritage day in South Africa. I wonder what she will represent. When people do not like it, it doesn’t mean they hate her. I also think Miss South Africa represents the culture of Mzansi. I wonder if she can even speak the language. Chidima has a right to enter however is it a right thing to do?
And let's ask which Province will she be going to and which cultural people will celebrate her when she arrives from Miss Universe and won the title😂😂. Like in the case of Zozibini Tunzi that came back home and citizens went to the airport to welcome her after that she went to her home Province in the Eastern Cape and Xhosa people celebrated her in Cape Town and Eastern Cape. Non South Africans won't understand how celebrations are being done in South Africa. Next month we will have Heritage month which is a very important month to us blacks
Which province does Hellen Zile, Vanessa Carreira go to ? You scared of deep seated questions
@@butler2149 😆 🤣 😂 you crazy angry, right? Let's come back to this comment soon. Miss South Africa organization won't crown the poor girl Miss South Africa. You know why because her mother may eventually appear when she becomes Miss South Africa, and you know South Africans that will know the mother. Helen Zille goes to Capetown Province 😆 🤣 I will go and do research on the Vanessa girls because I never bothered with her until now when you brought her up in this conversation.
@@MissSlenda isn't she supposed to go to Netherlands or Europe? If your ideology is to be followed
@butler2149 You enjoy an argument. Don't win an argument and expose your own stupidity. The issue on colonizers is very clear. The fact that the war against colonizers is not won doesn't mean we should allow all BS to happen.
This channel owes us an apology
This will end badly.. There are too many grey areas.
It's Sad how we hate each other as Africans!
We hate being taken advantage of, while else in Africa, citizens of neighboring countries look after their interests.
Shes gorgeous and now very famous, thanks to all the haters! ✅ She's won far beyond South Africa borders.
Then let her go enter miss Africa not miss SA 🤷🏾♀️
Where are her classmates? Why are they not defending her. Confirm that indeed she was in their claas? Why is the biological mother quiet?
Can you imagine a Zulu/ Mosotho girl running for miss Nigeria.... as a fellow S.frican I would personally call for her cancelation.....Rome is Rome , and it's architecture should scream Roman!
South africans! kindly stop embarrassing yourselves by being xenophobic towards your fellow brothers and sisters. The powers that be know your weaknesses and they intentionally placed her there to trigger a reaction out of you. Kindly, lets learn 'Ubuntu' and thrive to do better. Moreover, you have a city like 'orania' with immigrants from other parts of the world flocking in. Most of your games are represented by non-south africans and your economy belongs to foreign national s with a few south african participating. Let's learn and do better!
@living_water1 What's wrong if ask her legitimacy of her docs.Miss South Africa must not be confused with Miss Africa.
@@tnamr5652 that's why I have said, they placed her there intentionally, to trigger your reactions (ordinary south africans) because they know your weaknesses. Yes, I believe every african country should have their own representatives representing them but let's not be used against each other. We are the ones that should stop the 'divide and conquer'strategy on us. Africans unity is what we should strive for. We have a city like orania thriving amongst us, but yet we choose to be our own enemies.
@@living_water1 This nothing to do with African unity.If native Black Sans were fighting I was gonna be concerned.
@@tnamr5652 black race start working on your weaknesses!!! I'm already warning you.
Now that Home Affairs has officially found fraud in her documents because someone identity was stolen and used by her mom to register her as a South African i hope you will post that update too😊
Can you stop trying to shut up our opinions as xenophobic.
Nobody has problem with her being in the country , or being s model like loads of foreign models across the globe making money in South Africa.
We just dont want her to represent us, as miss South Africa. Lazy debate points and lazy reporting to shove everything point raised as xenophobic
Where em at those who said shes a SAN NOW,
This woman need to apologize to Sans.Reporting without facts
Xenophobia my foot 😂😂 all we ask for is that she proves that she is a South African . She is not hated but we don't buy their story . How did she become a South African when both parents are not from here? Where did she grow up? Who are her school friends and where is her mom?
You mean the organizers of the contests didn't bother to verify that she's qualified to contest, and you want to help do their job the right way? Ok.
By the way, where's your own mom, and who are your school friends? Nonsense 😂
@@bigboyindhouse8142 yes because it is held by private company
Why, because she is not white enough?
@@gracendhlovu6733 So, the private company doesn't have a requirement to be met in order to qualify, right? Or can you mention which of the requirements that she didn't meet?
We demand apology from this news Firstpost, Now we know she's not from South Africa 🇿🇦
Apparently the father is Nigerian and the mother is Mozambican shè definitely not South African 🤔 😅😂
She must go Nigeria or Mozambique to compete
I m just interested in this citizenship, if the father came during world cup and married at that time,14 years later they have a 23 year old SA daughter.Some peopke were here for 30 years and they are not having citizenship
Please do your jobs and do an update on the story. Minister of Home Affairs issued a statement on this. Chidima's mother does not have South African roots instead she committed identity fraud and a poor South African family suffered because of this. Further investigations are ongoing and criminal charges will be pressed. South Africans will be vindicated.
Think everyone thinking is Xenophobic...South Africans questioning documents... Her father gave an interview saying he came to South Afruca in 2010 to watch the World Cup and Chidimma he said was born in 2010 when he came.. That makes her the 14 years old...so something is fishy
Do you have any proof that was her real father? 😂😂😂
Let the chronological history of the child speak. South Africans first. That is called patriotism.
Her parents got married in South Africa in the late 1990s. Your problem is that you get your news from TikTok and Twitter instead of reading an actual newspaper. Please learn to read.
@@TerriTerriHotSauce let the mother, relatives, friends , neighborings, teachers etc. of South Africa attest to that. Does that sound Greek?
This is only days old but didnt age well ...@firstpost are you going to post an update on the new findings on this matter? FirstPost of lies ...
THAT NIGERIAN GIRL IS NOT A SOUTH AFRICAN AMBASSADOR AND WILL NOT REPRESENT OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND DYNAMICS!
PREACH!!! 👏👏👏👏
Racist
@@seanpope6804 So it be if I have to protect what belongs to my people! If I have to be labelled xenophobic so it be!
Never in the past miss SA pegeants have we seen a married miss SA who has a child and to top it off is a Nigerian of all people, for us a miss SA is a role model to young girls they should be able to see themselves in her and relate to her that here is a young lady, our own age she carries herself well and so on....chichi is married and has a child or two she should be representing mrs nigeria. This year everything about this pegeant is of a low standar, the standard used to be high
They are trying to be woke ... liberal.
Well she got her ID fraudulently, report on that now.
its still allegedly yet to be confirmed
No the minister came out and said it himself after an inquiry was logged by Miss South Africa INC.
No the minister came out and said it himself after an inquiry was logged by Miss South Africa INC.
People who do not. Compete with people who are non south africans in jobs, small businesses does not have a clue what the majority of south africans go through because of illegal foreigners. If this child is not born here, we have more beauties to represent us. Thank you
In other African countries the criteria is tbat ghe lady must be "originally " from the country and its called patriotism, in South Africa its called "xenophobia". South Africa has millions of illegal immigrants in the country, if they question it, they are "xenophobic" and have the "apartheid" mindset, when a black South African is beaten near death by the local population in a neighbouring country, its because hebis illegal and demand right only reserved for the citizens of the country. Somewhere something must break and the people will get tired, maybe its what we see now?
In other countries the criteria is having citizenship of said country actually. Also just out of curiosity, are white SA "originally" South African? 🤔
That's not true. Citizenship is always the criteria.
@@vickiebenson7980 Yes they are. Read our constitution and you will understand how. Now who gets to be a citizen of your own country?
@@decepticon8000 There's only one definition of "originally", in this case it can only mean indigenous, I don't have to read anything to know that much.
There are various ways of acquiring citizenship; birth, naturalization etc it just depends on whether you're eligible(not a convicted criminal, lived in the country for a period of time, an adult etc).
@@vickiebenson7980 Maybe the cases that you are referring to are only relevant in your country. There is no definitions of either one of those words on OUR constitution.
Now here is a mention of the term indigenous on our constitution, SINCE YOU WON'T READ IT, and it's in the context of languages. Please note that Afrikaans is in fact mentioned there and yoruba/igbo is not...
_1) The official languages of the Republic are Sepedi, Sesotho, Setswana, siSwati, Tshivenda, Xitsonga, Afrikaans, English, isiNdebele, isiXhosa and isiZulu. (2) Recognising the historically diminished use and status of the indigenous languages of our people, the state must take practical and positive measures to elevate the status and advance the use of these languages._
And there's simply no mention original people on there.
Xenophobia se gat.
Africa. Half a step forward, 100 steps Backward! Way to go 👍
Black South Africans.
@@katlegoloveslife So what's the defence here.
@@katlegoloveslifeAnd they could not defend themselves against the West.
@@tonero8562 You are talking about something that happened when we were not there BUT our forefathers were & they fell on the trap... Here we are now having to answer as to why they allowed it, we don't know which laws they agreed on & on what reasons& sadly we can no longer change because the law then gave them Citizenships & our Generation is fighting the repeat of that with our fellow Africans who want to rip us because our forefathers allowed nonsense .... Because if we don't, we will have foreign Africans who are running away from their Countries's issues to come & rule us. If we let this go years to come we will find them in Parliament jus like we have grand & great grand kids of Dutch settlers in our parliament. We are closing that tap & people like you, who are meddling in our affairs are disturbing us.
@@katlegoloveslife defend their country from who if l may ask? You have an only white area in the country. Instead of South Africans guys thinking about how to stop that, they are out there chasing a ghost. She is a South African citizen because she was born in South Africa and lives in South Africa despite her heritage. If South Africans wants to deny her that, then they should start by changing their constitution.
One thing is for sure Nigerian you should build your country, that’s all you have to do. Trevor Noah experienced the same thing here with Blacks. He was not allowed to talk about social issues. It is not South Africa issue it is a black issue.
😳🤔, This is a next example of the timeless African Proverbs (1) When Brothers fight to the death, a Stranger comes and inherits their Property (2) If you are not part of the solution you are part the problem 😳🤔
This is now a fraud case, for Identity theft. I hope you report that as well.
She can't help that her parents are foreign nationals, the fact that she's born in SA. Makes her South African.
You are wrong, one or both your parents must be a south African in order to be a south African
Read our laws, and stop bullshit talk. She is not south african.
This one is out of his mind & buying faces being scared of being labeled names by lying.
Let them label us xenophobic without facts the truth will soon come out 😮😮😮
That's not how our law works
One thing is South africa is not ready for this pan African thing
Yes then leave and go be pan African in your countries
All the other African country can hold their head high and say with their full chest our girl is representing us. But South Africans must not have that right. Y'all are crazy.🙄
So if u r born in SA u r not south African. 😢
For the safety of all foreigners in South Africa. This girl must not win. We don't want to see things being burned to the ground!!
She can win but South Africa will never value this thing of miss SA,imagine South African and Zimbabwean parents taking their child to Nigeria in 2010 and after 14 years she is a citizen and become miss Nigeria, what can happen?
Her winning will not cause any of those things but should awaken mentally dull South Africans of Globalisation
@nomzimasinyalela5080 Zimbabwe used to be the bread basket of Africa,we had people from all over Africa,we made them feel at home,there was no xenophobic attack,never called them names or foreigners,we lived together in peace, we had South Africans living in Zim,most of them came back when the economy started to deteriorate.Lets hope and pray South Africa will remain the way it is ( although we can all see where its going if change doesn't happen) otherwise the way people have been treated in S.A will come back to haunt you,things can change in a flash n I hope tables will not turn, it.might not be today or tomorrow but one day it will.Remember the situation in other African countries including Zim will not remain like that forever.
@@luinekaroro8149 Don't lie. Those few SAs you are talking about who used to live in Zim were freedom fighters who went into Exile, they were not running away from the economic hardships in SA. You are right, Zim used to be a bread basket, but there was never an influx of SAs in Zim looking for better economic conditions, and this will never ever happen. The reason for this is simple. We SAs love our country so much, and we will never abandon her no matter what! You may be right, SA may end up being Zim 2.0 one day, but one thing that will never happen is we will never run away to other countries and be a massive burden on them. We will stay and fight to make our country better again, even if we die of starvation and whatever else we will die right here!!!
Don't call usxenophobic,we don't want to be represented by her,lets stand firm South Africans no matter how many labels we get we must be strong and fight this.She is not representing us
Follow the Story carefull, She doesnt speak any South African Native Languages & yet she was born in Soweto.. Her father lied on live radio saying. She was born in South Africa in 2010 meaning she should be 14 years now.
Again her also said his child is Nigerian. She can't even Sing South African National Anthem. Every child that school in South African schools knows it especially those who are in primary school.
We have so much Diversity its impossible for child how school in South African not to Speak 2 official languages cos its the standard in all South African schools study English & one native language.
They think South Africans are fools , they don't know us.
The law doesn't require her to speak any south african native languages. Zuma daughter was born from a Mozambique mother and she can't really speak Zulu. Does it make her a foreigner? You have white people from France, and other European countries who have become citizens of SA, did you force them to speak one of your native languages? No.
Many white, Indian kids are born in your country and they can't speak any of your native languages, have you ever made it a problem?
Being born is Soweto doesn't mean you have to speak a native language.
Most of your soccer players can't sing your national anthem, why should this lady be forced to know the whole national anthem?
The audio you are referring to is a fake audio you guys made to discredit the poor lady.
The truth is that you hate black foreigners with passion.
You suffer from an inferiority complex.
Why don't you question a lot of whites who don't speak native language?
English and Africans are official languages in SA , and if we were to be represented by a caucasian who doesn't speak any of these languages, we would have a problem. @@cefasfah85
I know South Africans who don’t speak South Africa. So it doesn’t make sense.
You better update this lol her mother committed fraud!
I wonder if Indians were going to be ok if a Nigerian was representing them as Miss India 🙄
That's a false equivalence. Nigerians are genetically closer to you South Africans. A better argument would be, 'I wonder if Bhāratiyas (Indians) would be okay if a Persian (Iranian) were representing them as Miss India.
And I've to say that Persians are always welcome in Bhāratavarṣa. 😊
Cheap journalism is what this channel is about without factual on the ground reporting labels South Africans as xenophobic.Get your facts straight first !
Its all that self hate!!!😢😢😢 Africa is doomed.
The problem is much deeper, the actual problem is illegal immigration, Nigerians are the biggest participants in crimes in south african, we welcomed them and they are f××king up the country. To us this just tells us that in the near future Nigerians will even try to run for presidency in this country, we will never allow that. Why is it xenophobia when we voice out concerns for our country
You can label us as you want but we have the right to question this
@@Nono-uo5df who's us?
Self hate for not wanting a stranger to represent your country?
@@Nono-uo5df we all know u hate fellow Africans when u all migrants from other kingdoms u not even originals in Sa ..if u khoisan
Call us xenophobic for demanding that Miss SA have South African blood in her. Being born here isn't enough for you to represent South Africa on a global stage...period.
SA is an artifically constructed nation. You are a bantu Gal so is this girl. You are jealous because she looks better than all the basic Sifebe so because she's got game and you ain't gone none. You are pressed .
she will ge premium Lobola and all y'all basic heffas you won't even get a cow on your name.
Look at those shouting free Palestinian 😂
The SA muslim community has been very quiet on this so I don't know what you are on about
NEVER EVER 😢😢NIGERIAN MISS SOUTH AFRICA GENUINE RUBBISH
Her father confirmed she's not South African and was not born there
Home Affairs is corrupt to the core ..pls don't go there
Wow, this sad for south african. I also heard they only behave like this toward african immigrants. South african are very traumatized peoples. Apartheid really took a toll on them
so just hearing makes it truth🙄
That is not true!
We will not accept frausters and people who sell drugs and if that makes us Xenophobic we will gladly wear that badge
Yep. South Africans are weird. I have been there and yoo, if you don't visit Cape were you are atleast comfortable, you will suffer in the other places. Jorburg especially. People calling you foreigner and shouting at you for bus fares saying you are foreigner. They are pathetic honestly. Yet when they are in my country, we treat them as brothers. No one feels uncomfortable. I just don't understand the thought line of South Africans. Of course not all of them, but it's a problem because it is most of them.
@@Nono-uo5dfit's true, you are brainwashed
If she doesn't win this we as African people need to make a petition to Ban South Africa from playing in Afcon.
Can a South African become your country's president or represent your country? Why do you guys feel so entitled to do things in other countries that you don't do in your country's?
So she must win even if there are better candidates. How manipulative. We are used to being banned continue and good luck
@@Lulu-wv1nt why do these people feel so entitled to South Africa?
We don't care you can start by starting that petition coz she ain't gonna be no Miss SA
Don't care 😂😂😂😂
Fistly i didnt understand but if she was born in Soweto and her perants are foregners she is a south african
Wena you talk rubbish and are truly not following this rip off😂😂😂😂
Simple she needs to prove it,father he said they came during the world
Not according to SA law. If you are born of foreign parents in SA you take on the identity of your parents.
Where are you from? Because you sound lost, and nothing makes sense in your comment
and according to her own father, he only met her mother in 2010 for the first time, that is what started this whole thing, it would mean she is only 13 or 14 years old.
We want their apologies to be as loud as the accusations.🇿🇦
Don’t they call themselves the rainbow nation? Shouldn’t that be a beautiful thing?
Looking through how diverse nations go on too long.... divisions occurs when too much especially ideologies....
Every country faces immigration issues. South Africa is too small to take everyone from Africa who is dreaming about a better life. Conflict is bound to happen unless African countries fix themselves.
Our African brothers know very that South Africans have been welcoming to them for years until they started nonsense. They know very well that South Africans have the same issue with white people too, it's just that they as ordinary people are easy to catch, rich people( everywhere) who happen to be white most of the time get away with things an ordinary person cannot get away with.
African countries never take accountability for the chaos that happens in South Africa. They are always quick to point fingers and blame South Africans who are still struggling with their own issues.
Yes we are the rainbow nation. Just questioning her identity doesn't negate that
Follow the Story carefull, She doesnt speak any South African Native Languages & yet she was born in Soweto.. Her father lied on live radio saying. She was born in South Africa in 2010 meaning she should be 14 years now.
Again her also said his child is Nigerian. She can't even Sing South African National Anthem. Every child that school in South African schools knows it especially those who are in primary school.
We have so much Diversity its impossible for child how school in South African not to Speak 2 official languages cos its the standard in all South African schools study English & one native language.
Only if they obey the law. She can't fraudulently obtain citizenship and we applaud that . She must be investigated , we don't trust Nigerians .
Well the truth is out now
Pethetic journalism # do your research because they are facts that don't add up about her and assume anything yet as South African, WE ARE NOT XENOPHOBIC JUST BECAUSE WE TO FIND OUT.