The NYC of the late 90's that Conan was talking about was post-Giuliani being elected and the crack down on crime in NYC. The NYC of the late 60's, 70's and 80's were a lot different. Indeed, the NYC of today is different than the first Death Wish movie.
now you can't have guns in New York though.. is that right? Only the criminals are armed like in Chicago? IN Chicago and New York squatters are literally stealing people's houses!
@@nyiniamako you know nothing of New York then. Up to the early 1980's (but especially in the 70's with mayor Ed Koch) the cops would hand out pamplets to visitors with a skull and crossbones on the top, detailing the things you absolutely did not want to do if you wanted to not die. Look it up.. things were shit... and have become so again. Or did you miss the recent illegal immigrant mall raid?
@@nyiniamako Well, the first one was a bit more realistic, but yeah, you're mostly right. However, in the 70's/early 80's there were parts of NYC that did look like a post-apocalyptic movie. Remember, NYC literally went bankrupt during the Ford administration in the mid-70s and had to ask the federal gov't for a bailout.
@@playedout148 Yeah, it's bad, but it's bad in somewhat different ways and in different places than back when Death Wish was made. I should've clarified that.
New York in the 70s and 80s were different. By the early nineties, things were much more under control. Things are going down fast again, as I understand it. Perhaps Death Wish will be current again soon. The sequels were pretty good. Not totalitarian, as some people would say, and not racist. They are just power fantasies. As such, they are great, if silly.
This is clipped from Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend podcast. Charles Bronson on a hospital bed, in Death Wish 49; 'My name is Charles Bronson and I wish I was dead.' #BillHader
The first death wish is brilliant. Like a masterpiece in every way..2-3-4-5-6 😅were dumb. But the first one is awesome. Two is good great soundtrack by Jimmy (zoso) page🎸 bill hader is so hilarious😅
The movies 100% still stand up. Conan is being very dumb here(probably just for the joke) because the movies take place during the late 70s to 80s.When it's widely documented new york, chicago and LA were nearly war zones. Conan watching the movie in the late 90's isn't going to magically bring back all the crime from the 70s and 80s to the real world. That's like me watching a ww2 movie then going I was in Britain last week there was no bombed out buildings
Did you actually watch Death Wish 3? As out of control crime was during the 70's or 80's, it was not bad enough for senior citizens to be fighting gangs with bazookas.
@@CriticalShot1 You wrote "movies", plural, so naturally I assumed you meant all of them. Death Wish 3 in particular is not rooted in reality, it's a completely cartoonish fantasy that cannot be taken seriously by anyone.
The Original Death Wish was the best film of the series. That film was grounded in enough reality that it's protagonist and his actions made sense. Then it just got ridiculous after that. Death Wish 3 which the clips shown in this video are from is just ludicious and farcical . Just the silliest, dumbest crime/ action film of its genre. Death Wish 3 is worth watching only as unintentional comedy especially my favorite line in it: "They killed the giggler"
Yeah you really can’t compare 90s New York and especially modern day New York with how it was in the 70s, sure Death Wish is fiction and so it certainly takes liberties in exaggerating crime for entertainment purposes but movies like Taxi Driver and Dirty Harry were extremely relevant at that time because crime in the 70s particularly New York was genuinely terrible. I’m glad Conan can enjoy getting his eclairs now but roll back 20 years and that street was likely a very different place.
Reminds me of Conan enjoying the segregated luxury resorts in Haiti while the average Haitian is living in the most decrepit and inhumane conditions in the world. A true limousine-liberal.
@@jon4715 Don’t get me wrong I love Conan I think he’s a good guy but his liberal sensibility can be a little overt sometimes to the extent that maintaining his universal image gets in the way of a much deeper conversation, he’s a great host and certainly think he’s loosened up since the days of doing Late Night. I just don’t know how he can be so dismissive of how bad crime was in the 70s and even though Death Wish is certainly very pro conservative in nature it was a response to what was happening at the time, there were places in New York that cops didn’t even dare to go near because it was either entirely controlled by gangs or the mafia.
@@theodoremcdonald9471 "After steady to declining trends until the early 1960s, the homicide rate doubled in the period from 1964-74 from just under 5 per 100,000 at the beginning of that period to just under 10 per 100,000 in 1974. After 1974, the trend over time appears to be fluctuations around the 1974 high." - from an academic article written in 1998 called "Declining Homicide Rate in NYC" for the Northwestern University School of Law discussing how the homicide rate DECLINED in the 90s.
Well, we didn't forget Bernie Getz, did we? And as I understand it, I guess movies like Death Wish will become relevant again. One thing struck me about the third film (now that they prevalently showed it in this clip) and it's not the fact it's shot in London, but how gangs were ethnically and gender wise diverse. Something you don't see today.
theres a striking similarity between the criminal world of the death later death wish films and the 80s TMNT cartoon and live action movies, except one is rapier
There’s a reason Death Wish resonated in the 70s and spawned a series of ever-weaker sequels. The NYC that inspired it changed, but now it’s seeing the pendulum swing back and their laughter loop here rings hollow and is somewhat offensive. Everything old is new again; even stupid, unserious politicians and their penchant for pandering over governing. But you really can’t blame them for all of it since they were elected to do exactly that. As Greg Lake wrote: the Christmas we get, we deserve.
I don't know what they're laughing about. I'm living their sarcastic laughing. My neighborhood sucks now. Everybody around here now just wants "clear" which is meth. And the hotels and buildings they built for the homeless just breeds criminal mischief. Because they offer everyone who is homeless , but especially if you go to jail, free apartments. Oh bytheway, the Mafia really loves these apartments bytheway
Stupid. First death wish is so touching. It's about a pacifist who's been hurt who tries to be the tough guy, failing - all those scenes with the pool ball in a sock - then succeeding and getting pleasure out of it til the end he's become a murderer. It's like Straw Dogs and Waiting Period by Selby Jr. at the same times. The sequels were crap and sometimes funny fascist ones but the fist one still holds up. And man NYC in tee late 90s and 00's was a really different place and why so? Cause freaking Giuliani. Conan is just proving himself an upper class snob who never been harassed in the seventies Manhattan. You must be out of your mind to talk about Éclair when it comes to NYC at that time. Gentrification is no justification to be snob. I'm far from being right wing but you got to be honest 70's NYC was a hell of a place to be. Just watch Panic in Needle park, Serpico and all the movies about New York they are good commentaries about it.
Did you not listen to him? He said they don't hold because those things changed, not that it wasn't true at the time... the other one he mentioned was a late sequel that (he says) was made when the 70s, Taxi Driver version of New York was already gone
@@naysayer1238 - He's just pointing out that it's funny that this is no longer the New York you see in these movies, and also he specifically pointed out one of the later sequels... relax.
the third movie is maybe my favourite. It was so over the top. He even has an old machine gun that a friend of his cranks. Jim Page did the soundtrack so the music is weird.. sometimes wrong but in a good way. How would they be fasciistr though? Fasciism is when corporations and government merge. Police end up following economic orders and allowing the citizens on the government's side to riot and get away with it. Fascist governments will not charge the protestors that do their wish and arrest those against their wish. a collusion between police, government and corporations have to be present. A lone vigilante is not fasciist. Ah... if the vigilante is colluding with the government though.... think of how the antifa people didn't get charged... or the BLM protestors didn't... or the people that fire bombed the white house and trump had to go in the bunker. That was way worse than Jan 6. A fasciist government will use the media to make people forget the riots that serve their purposes. and they will exaggerate whatever they want people to fear. Hiitler took guns away. Is there any politicians wanting to take guns away? Fasciist move. They want ou to be beholden to the state for protection. Self defense is something fasciist governments hate. so you could make an argument that vigilantes are anti -fascist. (Antifa are authoritarian. they are against fascism because they want communism instead .. so I don't mean them when I say 'against fasciism.') the left is the party of the rich now and they want us all unarmed. Celebrities all have armed guards and want us to be unarmed though. Tis isn't right or left. Its rich versus poor.
the laugh loop OMG
Unsettling 😂
OK I'm glad you confirmed it was a loop because I was doubting my intelligence.
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Felt like GoodFellas for a second
I love all the death wish movies. 1 is a real film, but 3 is so absurd and fun that I can’t help myself.
Death Wish 3 is one of the greatest so-bad-it's-good movies ever made. The ending w/ the bazooka is just *chef's kiss*.
Death Wish 3 is *I N C R E D I B L E*
I swear to god it is. That 3rd act takes the film from really good to high art.
That Dukakis joke killed me 😂
Charles Bronson needs to come back to NYC in 2024.
In his current state.
@@UberNeuman Gun wielding zombie that entraps thugs!
And just like that the knockout game is back watch out ladies
The NYC of the late 90's that Conan was talking about was post-Giuliani being elected and the crack down on crime in NYC. The NYC of the late 60's, 70's and 80's were a lot different. Indeed, the NYC of today is different than the first Death Wish movie.
now you can't have guns in New York though.. is that right? Only the criminals are armed like in Chicago? IN Chicago and New York squatters are literally stealing people's houses!
NYC is back baby! It'll catch up to Memphis and Chattanooga sometime soon!
@@nyiniamako you know nothing of New York then. Up to the early 1980's (but especially in the 70's with mayor Ed Koch) the cops would hand out pamplets to visitors with a skull and crossbones on the top, detailing the things you absolutely did not want to do if you wanted to not die. Look it up.. things were shit... and have become so again. Or did you miss the recent illegal immigrant mall raid?
@@nyiniamako Well, the first one was a bit more realistic, but yeah, you're mostly right. However, in the 70's/early 80's there were parts of NYC that did look like a post-apocalyptic movie. Remember, NYC literally went bankrupt during the Ford administration in the mid-70s and had to ask the federal gov't for a bailout.
@@playedout148 Yeah, it's bad, but it's bad in somewhat different ways and in different places than back when Death Wish was made. I should've clarified that.
New York in the 70s and 80s were different. By the early nineties, things were much more under control. Things are going down fast again, as I understand it. Perhaps Death Wish will be current again soon. The sequels were pretty good. Not totalitarian, as some people would say, and not racist. They are just power fantasies. As such, they are great, if silly.
Crime rate in NYC is on par with the national rate. Don’t listen to Fox News.
I love the nick mullen joke about bronson kidnapping a boyband and making them aristocrats him & his family
This is clipped from Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend podcast.
Charles Bronson on a hospital bed, in Death Wish 49; 'My name is Charles Bronson and I wish I was dead.'
#BillHader
The first death wish is brilliant. Like a masterpiece in every way..2-3-4-5-6 😅were dumb. But the first one is awesome. Two is good great soundtrack by Jimmy (zoso) page🎸 bill hader is so hilarious😅
The movies 100% still stand up. Conan is being very dumb here(probably just for the joke) because the movies take place during the late 70s to 80s.When it's widely documented new york, chicago and LA were nearly war zones. Conan watching the movie in the late 90's isn't going to magically bring back all the crime from the 70s and 80s to the real world. That's like me watching a ww2 movie then going I was in Britain last week there was no bombed out buildings
Did you actually watch Death Wish 3? As out of control crime was during the 70's or 80's, it was not bad enough for senior citizens to be fighting gangs with bazookas.
@@chickenwingcrossface9269 dude obviously the later ones went over the top. We talking about the first one.
@@CriticalShot1 You wrote "movies", plural, so naturally I assumed you meant all of them. Death Wish 3 in particular is not rooted in reality, it's a completely cartoonish fantasy that cannot be taken seriously by anyone.
@@chickenwingcrossface9269 my mistake
It’s like watching a period piece like Roots and saying it doesn’t hold up because there is no longer Slavery.
How's it holdin up now Coney?
The Original Death Wish was the best film of the series. That film was grounded in enough reality that it's protagonist and his actions made sense.
Then it just got ridiculous after that.
Death Wish 3 which the clips shown in this video are from is just ludicious and farcical . Just the silliest, dumbest crime/ action film of its genre.
Death Wish 3 is worth watching only as unintentional comedy especially my favorite line in it: "They killed the giggler"
DW3 is a great bad movie. It's one of the funniest movies ever made despite the fact that it's supposed to be an action movie.
All of you whining about comedians poking fun at an old movie should realize that you guys take Death Wish 3 more seriously than Charles Bronson did.
Why are you so butthurt about people pointing out that, as usual, celebrities don't know what they're talking about?
@@Musicvidsetc Im supposed to be the butthurt one even tho youre the one mad about jokes. Make it make sense.
Well they’re critiquing the first one as well
Yeah you really can’t compare 90s New York and especially modern day New York with how it was in the 70s, sure Death Wish is fiction and so it certainly takes liberties in exaggerating crime for entertainment purposes but movies like Taxi Driver and Dirty Harry were extremely relevant at that time because crime in the 70s particularly New York was genuinely terrible. I’m glad Conan can enjoy getting his eclairs now but roll back 20 years and that street was likely a very different place.
Reminds me of Conan enjoying the segregated luxury resorts in Haiti while the average Haitian is living in the most decrepit and inhumane conditions in the world. A true limousine-liberal.
@@jon4715 Don’t get me wrong I love Conan I think he’s a good guy but his liberal sensibility can be a little overt sometimes to the extent that maintaining his universal image gets in the way of a much deeper conversation, he’s a great host and certainly think he’s loosened up since the days of doing Late Night. I just don’t know how he can be so dismissive of how bad crime was in the 70s and even though Death Wish is certainly very pro conservative in nature it was a response to what was happening at the time, there were places in New York that cops didn’t even dare to go near because it was either entirely controlled by gangs or the mafia.
Crime in New York was higher in the 90s than the 70s
@@theodoremcdonald9471 "After steady to declining trends until the early 1960s, the homicide rate doubled in the period from 1964-74 from just under 5 per 100,000 at the beginning of that period to just under 10 per 100,000 in 1974. After 1974, the trend over time appears to be fluctuations around the 1974 high."
- from an academic article written in 1998 called "Declining Homicide Rate in NYC" for the Northwestern University School of Law discussing how the homicide rate DECLINED in the 90s.
@@Musicvidsetc declined, yes. Still peaked in 1993.
Well, we didn't forget Bernie Getz, did we? And as I understand it, I guess movies like Death Wish will become relevant again.
One thing struck me about the third film (now that they prevalently showed it in this clip) and it's not the fact it's shot in London, but how gangs were ethnically and gender wise diverse. Something you don't see today.
theres a striking similarity between the criminal world of the death later death wish films and the 80s TMNT cartoon and live action movies, except one is rapier
There’s a reason Death Wish resonated in the 70s and spawned a series of ever-weaker sequels. The NYC that inspired it changed, but now it’s seeing the pendulum swing back and their laughter loop here rings hollow and is somewhat offensive. Everything old is new again; even stupid, unserious politicians and their penchant for pandering over governing. But you really can’t blame them for all of it since they were elected to do exactly that. As Greg Lake wrote: the Christmas we get, we deserve.
chillax boomer
@@propertymanager9149 enjoy your dystopia, zoomer
@@propertymanager9149 enjoy your dystopia, zoomer
@@propertymanager9149 enjoy your dystopia, zoomer
@@propertymanager9149 lemming
Bill and Conan have obviously never experienced a real ghetto era in their long celebrity lives, ever.
Neither had Charles Bronson to my knowledge.
The Death Wish simps are out to defend geriatric Punisher lol
A lot of defensive Death Wish heads out there I guess 😂
They really want to believe you can shoot crime out of existence without dealing with any of its root causes (i.e. poverty) 😂
They failed to mention what eventually happened to NYC.
I noticed none of these people still live there.
Such a weird thing that people say things like this and convince themselves that it's true
@@masterofallgoons Been there recently?
@@johnpendarvis7885 - yes, unlike you
@@masterofallgoons Maybe some statistics would cure your smugness.
@@johnpendarvis7885 maybe some actual experience would cure your douchiness
I don't know what they're laughing about. I'm living their sarcastic laughing. My neighborhood sucks now. Everybody around here now just wants "clear" which is meth. And the hotels and buildings they built for the homeless just breeds criminal mischief. Because they offer everyone who is homeless , but especially if you go to jail, free apartments. Oh bytheway, the Mafia really loves these apartments bytheway
The first one was very good, the sequels were garbage.
Stupid. First death wish is so touching. It's about a pacifist who's been hurt who tries to be the tough guy, failing - all those scenes with the pool ball in a sock - then succeeding and getting pleasure out of it til the end he's become a murderer. It's like Straw Dogs and Waiting Period by Selby Jr. at the same times. The sequels were crap and sometimes funny fascist ones but the fist one still holds up. And man NYC in tee late 90s and 00's was a really different place and why so? Cause freaking Giuliani. Conan is just proving himself an upper class snob who never been harassed in the seventies Manhattan. You must be out of your mind to talk about Éclair when it comes to NYC at that time. Gentrification is no justification to be snob. I'm far from being right wing but you got to be honest 70's NYC was a hell of a place to be. Just watch Panic in Needle park, Serpico and all the movies about New York they are good commentaries about it.
Did you not listen to him? He said they don't hold because those things changed, not that it wasn't true at the time... the other one he mentioned was a late sequel that (he says) was made when the 70s, Taxi Driver version of New York was already gone
Three is bad put in a good way
@@masterofallgoons And that makes no sense if said about the first one. Why should it and how could it match up with a NYC 20 years in the future?
@@naysayer1238 - He's just pointing out that it's funny that this is no longer the New York you see in these movies, and also he specifically pointed out one of the later sequels... relax.
the third movie is maybe my favourite. It was so over the top. He even has an old machine gun that a friend of his cranks. Jim Page did the soundtrack so the music is weird.. sometimes wrong but in a good way. How would they be fasciistr though? Fasciism is when corporations and government merge. Police end up following economic orders and allowing the citizens on the government's side to riot and get away with it. Fascist governments will not charge the protestors that do their wish and arrest those against their wish.
a collusion between police, government and corporations have to be present.
A lone vigilante is not fasciist.
Ah... if the vigilante is colluding with the government though....
think of how the antifa people didn't get charged... or the BLM protestors didn't... or the people that fire bombed the white house and trump had to go in the bunker. That was way worse than Jan 6. A fasciist government will use the media to make people forget the riots that serve their purposes.
and they will exaggerate whatever they want people to fear.
Hiitler took guns away. Is there any politicians wanting to take guns away? Fasciist move. They want ou to be beholden to the state for protection.
Self defense is something fasciist governments hate.
so you could make an argument that vigilantes are anti -fascist.
(Antifa are authoritarian. they are against fascism because they want communism instead .. so I don't mean them when I say 'against fasciism.')
the left is the party of the rich now and they want us all unarmed.
Celebrities all have armed guards and want us to be unarmed though.
Tis isn't right or left.
Its rich versus poor.
Hader and Conan come across as insufferable here.
Either that or they don't.
I guess when you're rich and white you can afford to be.
Seriously, voting has consequences. Look at NYC now, it's as crazy as it gets.
@@TheRealNormanBates Rich people of color are snobs too.