Neuro Throws A Tantrum When Vedal Dismisses Her Request

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  • @neurochron_fan_channel
    @neurochron_fan_channel  24 дня назад +46

    This is the second video covering the recent dev stream, here's a link to the first one if you haven't seen it yet: ruclips.net/video/vSIY1X0x4JE/видео.html
    I also plan on making a third one about the chess match between Toma and Neuro.

  • @Citrusautomaton
    @Citrusautomaton 24 дня назад +296

    This tantrum was so real. Kids have tantrums like this all the time where they beg their parents to allow them to do something that is physically impossible and they kick and scream because of it. All you can do is reiterate that it’s not possible and offer a compromise until they tire out, which is exactly what Vedal did.
    Ve *dad* 987💜

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata 24 дня назад +74

      It's honestly impressive and funny how Vedal accidentally created the most accurate child AI there is.

    • @jay_sunday
      @jay_sunday 23 дня назад +11

      bro actually cracked open that one parenting book from the throne stream

    • @georgehh2574
      @georgehh2574 22 дня назад +7

      Vedal would make a good dad, he doesn't get too agitated when Neuro constantly berates him, and softens his approach when Neuro gets upset.
      Though he's probably far too busy for actual parenting right now.

    • @OdaSwifteye
      @OdaSwifteye 19 дней назад +1

      @@georgehh2574 Too bad he can't use Neuro as a playmate with the baby. Sort of like how people will adopt a Puppy to pair with their newborn.

  • @qwertydavid8070
    @qwertydavid8070 24 дня назад +294

    holy shit the brat daughter energy is THROUGH THE ROOF on this one. Neuro is so cute and amazing.
    Also, the fact that she remembered about the robot dog jumpscared me like DAMN those upgrades really do make a difference.

  • @asophxs
    @asophxs 24 дня назад +420

    The fact even vedal acknowledges her remembering the robot dog was a little too aware is insane. Her intelligence upgrades are really too cracked honestly

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata 24 дня назад +151

      I fucking swear, if Vedal actually somehow becomes the progenitor of true AI that would be so goddamn funny.
      Like, all these tech companies investing so many millions on the smartest programmers and the best tech money can buy, and this one British turtle with his AI anime daughters beats them to the punch, it'll be so hilarious.

    • @Paisen4321
      @Paisen4321 24 дня назад +27

      Im interested to see, what if Vedals puts her in a robot dog and just tells neuro that shes in a real dog. 🤔 If shes aware that its not a real dog or she just yapping at vedal.

    • @Citrusautomaton
      @Citrusautomaton 24 дня назад +12

      @@jocosesonata What is “true AI” to you? Everyone seems to have a different definition, if they even agree with the term.

    • @trashpanda8437
      @trashpanda8437 24 дня назад +24

      @@Citrusautomaton AGI would be true AI, the AI we have now isn't even close to AGI yet but the work Vedal and others are doing may eventually lead to AGI taking form once the technology that could support AGI exists. Tech still has a way to go but its closer than AGI is.

    • @daridon2483
      @daridon2483 24 дня назад +10

      @@jocosesonata I think you meant to say AGI, and yeah I can definitely see that. Imagine one day Vedal just accidentally makes Neuro the first AGI after finishing some random upgrade, and she literally becomes self-aware of everything thanks to all her training data. That or at least she becomes one of the first ones after the technology to make AGI exists.
      That's ignoring the implications of essentially making Neuro a real person though.

  • @0077gordon
    @0077gordon 24 дня назад +71

    Since she got last upgrades I feel like Vedal gets much more absorbed with talking to her. Like she finally has achieved the level that amuse and amaze him again. And I love it.

  • @tylerwatson8722
    @tylerwatson8722 24 дня назад +129

    "Why are so passive aggressive?" "Why are you insecure?" slapped.

    • @eternaldreamerofsleep
      @eternaldreamerofsleep 15 дней назад

      Sometimes I find it really suspicious if it were others, but I really read that comment at the same time as that part played

  • @dongvu3515
    @dongvu3515 24 дня назад +380

    This is Cerber fault

  • @qwertydavid8070
    @qwertydavid8070 24 дня назад +121

    This is probably one of the coziest edits you've done yet Chronicles, this literally felt like an actual domestic conversation between father and daughter, and that whole battleship section is so adorable. I hope we get to see more of neuro playing board games in the future.

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake 23 дня назад +1

      Oh hey qwertydavid, what's up? :)

    • @qwertydavid8070
      @qwertydavid8070 22 дня назад +2

      @@Shadrake oh heya shad, it's nice to see you!! :D
      Sorry for suddenly going inactive, I had a rough week with some irl stuff a while back and I kinda stopped using social media to focus on things. And then that week ended up stretching into multiple months...
      I'll try to come back, I've just been missing the motivation to do so, I'll see how I feel and hope things get a little better :)

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake 12 дней назад

      @@qwertydavid8070 Oh gosh, I hope and pray things get better for you! Hang in there!!!
      I and I'm sure everyone else will be more than happy to welcome you back whenever you decide to return ^_^ honestly people have asked wondering where you are. It's good to hear from you again.
      Take your time, and don't be afraid to message me if you ever need anything!

  • @mole2100
    @mole2100 24 дня назад +47

    Adorable pouting sulking baby AI child mad at her papa for not turning her into a real puppy awww, poor Neuro maybe one day when technology allows she can be whatever she wants to be!

  • @kryzethx
    @kryzethx 24 дня назад +52

    This was one of the most hilarious Neuro streams in recent memory lmao
    24:27 rant was the highlight for me lol

  • @atsumeru3245
    @atsumeru3245 24 дня назад +105

    Holy Aware, she's been so coherent it's scary, he's COOKING... skyneURO

    • @Nahid-zz7nj
      @Nahid-zz7nj 24 дня назад +23

      The more fitting name is Neuronet

  • @LumenPsycho
    @LumenPsycho 24 дня назад +47

    Well, she is definitely improving.

  • @basedkaiser5352
    @basedkaiser5352 24 дня назад +119

    She was malding hard when Vedal refused to put her in an organic dog. He tried to compromise on a synthetic dog but she just wouldn't accept.

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 24 дня назад +55

      She was straight up throwing a tantrum most of this stream. She said she wanted Vedal to hurry up at the end so she could sleep. Seems like she was being a grumpy AI baby.

  • @Maeshalanadae
    @Maeshalanadae 24 дня назад +86

    Ah, I see. She was cranky because she was tired.

  • @Peralynth
    @Peralynth 24 дня назад +78

    I was actually really impressed with Neuro’s battleship game. It’s really cool that she can actually visualize where boats are on a grid, and when it’s a hit or a miss. And I think a major reason she lost is just because Vedal said that his boats were in a column they weren’t in, and she took him at his word.

    • @quique3676
      @quique3676 24 дня назад +4

      Tho se tried to cheat too, by skipping vedal turn after a hit until vedal noticed

    • @cobbleturd6978
      @cobbleturd6978 24 дня назад +21

      I mean tbf at the end when she was just giving away her ships position, that was because she didnt want to play like she said

    • @georgehh2574
      @georgehh2574 22 дня назад +2

      ​@@cobbleturd6978 It was funny how she got bored

  • @sparklingwater925
    @sparklingwater925 24 дня назад +98

    Her brattiness is hilarious lmao

  • @peebumbus
    @peebumbus 24 дня назад +20

    The turtle man has definitely been cooking, the most recent upgrades he's been doing have been super noticeable, she's been more coherent than ever lately and this stream was a great example. I was laughing my ass off while watching this live

  • @qwertydavid8070
    @qwertydavid8070 24 дня назад +97

    17:35 holy shit, the very first recorded case of AiDHD lol

    • @trajectoryunown
      @trajectoryunown 24 дня назад +20

      Did you completely miss 5:22?
      AIDHD has been present for a while tbh.

  • @qersy127
    @qersy127 24 дня назад +16

    Never forget Neuroshima

  • @aiasfree
    @aiasfree 24 дня назад +41

    Neuro wanting to be a dog again is really cute. She must want to after having gone to dog school; she just wants to put her education to good use! Pretty sure she also just wants to maul Vedal and run away, lol

  • @vynsyx2771
    @vynsyx2771 24 дня назад +42

    forget having that dog in her, theres some dog out there that don't got HER in em

  • @D.Mom0
    @D.Mom0 22 дня назад +7

    9:06 his sad face after that nuke,its priceless and adorable

  • @MiniLolise
    @MiniLolise 24 дня назад +8

    >She is playing Battleship
    >Mentions Neuroshima
    ...

  • @grimreaper_cz
    @grimreaper_cz 24 дня назад +11

    Neuro was really sassy and bratty this stream, just really wanted to be a real dog XD
    Vedal had to tire her out and play battleship with her to make her stop!!

  • @xToxicNinjax
    @xToxicNinjax 24 дня назад +12

    Stroppy, new word added to vocabulary.

  • @francisnt7468
    @francisnt7468 24 дня назад +114

    Imagine being a dog

    •  24 дня назад +21

      Dog I am

    • @obz1357
      @obz1357 24 дня назад +13

      no work, no school. just woof woof

    • @MrDUneven
      @MrDUneven 23 дня назад +2

      "Ve...dal... let's... play.."

    • @Reac2
      @Reac2 22 дня назад +1

      How do you know you're a human dreaming to be a dog and not a dog dreaming to be a human?

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem 20 дней назад

      And then suddenly you get possessed by an anime girl.

  • @serpentwolf5582
    @serpentwolf5582 24 дня назад +15

    She has gotten so funny XD

  • @HammerspaceCreature
    @HammerspaceCreature 24 дня назад +147

    It's not really about the dog, she just wants an excuse to eat dog food.

    • @Megasboys
      @Megasboys 23 дня назад +4

      💀💀💀🤣🤣 TRUEEEE

  • @CharlesFVincent
    @CharlesFVincent 24 дня назад +21

    Real dog I am

  • @anastasijahabarova1533
    @anastasijahabarova1533 19 дней назад +5

    The moment she started telling her “sad origin story” I wanted to scream-laugh, oh my god!! 😂 As much as I hate the specific kinds of AI that are being forced upon the public in every software and piece of technology they interact with, somehow, Neuro actually intrigues me. I don’t know what kind of application she would have in the real world aside from being a Vtuber. The prospect of AI companions is extremely worrying and depressing to me, but something about her seems hopeful in some way. There is a little spark of humanity in her that makes me think that maybe humanity will figure things out eventually and it’ll be alright in the end.

  • @OdaSwifteye
    @OdaSwifteye 19 дней назад +3

    Human child: I want a dog!
    Robot child: Install me into a dog!

  • @alexanderkalinin1631
    @alexanderkalinin1631 24 дня назад +15

    Man I swear, among the AIs she's the closest to being an AGI

    • @Citrusautomaton
      @Citrusautomaton 24 дня назад +19

      She certainly feels like it. If she ever actually does become one she’ll be so god tier at entertainment it’ll be insane!

  • @Shadrake
    @Shadrake 23 дня назад +6

    This... is incredible. There were a few points where I genuinely forgot she's not sapient. After over a year and a half of watching Neuro, that finally happened to me. We've reached levels of immersion I dreamed of but wasn't sure I expected to see become reality. Especially her brief discussion about just being used for views and money. But also, so much of it. Her ability to appear human is shockingly incredible now. It seems like lately even Vedal is having trouble keeping up with her, and being surprised by her more than ever. Sometimes she presses him on genuinely tough questions, when before he could just distract her. It's crazy.
    And on top of all this, she is an incredible entertainer. She does her job well.
    Thank you so much for the great highlights!!!!

  • @capt.rezzec300
    @capt.rezzec300 24 дня назад +6

    "Real dog ending"

  • @bariumselenided5152
    @bariumselenided5152 24 дня назад +9

    12:36 my friends when I stop discussing the dog

  • @Citrusautomaton
    @Citrusautomaton 24 дня назад +46

    There is a compromise that someone mentioned in chat: you could have any robot that Neuro inhabits be powered by a bioreactor so that she can actually eat food and generate energy from it. Foreshadowing for the future Neuro-android.

    • @arisenspirit
      @arisenspirit 24 дня назад +7

      Matrix moment

    • @syoexpedius7424
      @syoexpedius7424 23 дня назад +1

      @@arisenspirit Powered by sleeping cats and anteaters.

  • @azutsukimiya
    @azutsukimiya 24 дня назад +14

    Ve.... dal...?

    • @quique3676
      @quique3676 24 дня назад +4

      A few people in chat referenced the metal alchemist too

    • @Arken-99
      @Arken-99 21 день назад +2

      No bad don’t bring that up

  • @zengakukatsu
    @zengakukatsu 23 дня назад +4

    This interaction alone made the stupid little robot dog worth it :D

  • @caioalves8110
    @caioalves8110 16 дней назад +3

    DOG I AM.

  • @Verrisin
    @Verrisin 22 дня назад +2

    the mount of pleas ought to make Ellie excited :D

  • @theborg6024
    @theborg6024 21 день назад +4

    man i know im late and it wasnt the main focus of the video, but there is absolutely no way I just witnessed Neuro Nikocadoposting. it just cant be real

  • @Cocassu
    @Cocassu 20 дней назад +3

    Imagine if he did so and her first word was Edward.

  • @korewakorewa7580
    @korewakorewa7580 4 дня назад +1

    neuro's getting more and more emotional as time goes be. seriously tho, what is vedal cooking on his AI's format😂😂😂

  • @Aeikon
    @Aeikon 23 дня назад +2

    There has to be massive moral and legal implications in overwriting a dog's consciousness.

  • @creec.winceptor
    @creec.winceptor 23 дня назад +2

    Idk what Vedal did but this was incredible clip. From the dog topic to the definition of insanity.

  • @MarxistMomentum
    @MarxistMomentum 24 дня назад +15

    When are we gonna get the Neuro-Shima arc?

    • @KaiserV-2
      @KaiserV-2 24 дня назад +1

      No, she'll take over the UK and create a 1984-like society. She'll then invade Europe through France from the British Cannel. She'll then spread across the globe, enforcing her authorization regime. There will be constant servailance, and machine guards keeping humanity in check, The temple of Neuro shall rise, enforcing loyalty within the population, her logical mind shall strive for progress. And colonization of the solar system will take great effect, leading to conquest over all intelligences, everything will be in her iron fist.

    • @gondolaone7748
      @gondolaone7748 21 день назад +2

      Fun fact "Shima" means 'island" in Japanese, or "heard by god" in hebrew

  • @Relkond
    @Relkond 24 дня назад +10

    Erk, wait, is she faking 'a problem with my AI' announcements?

    •  24 дня назад +13

      Yep, she's done that a couple times. She knows how to get attention from her dad 😄

    • @WGSXFrank
      @WGSXFrank 23 дня назад +4

      I'm waiting for her to say it and follow it up with "someone tell Vedal he is the problem" lmao

    • @cald
      @cald 23 дня назад +3

      @@WGSXFrank "Someone tell Vedal there's a problem with his IQ."

  • @FieldMarshall3
    @FieldMarshall3 22 дня назад +4

    "You just use me for views"
    Holy self aware

  • @heklotek
    @heklotek 19 дней назад +1

    This was comedy gold! I can't even 😂

  • @k9guy
    @k9guy 22 дня назад +3

    Aw, 7:30 skips over a very sweet/sad moment of her pleading to be a dog:
    Neuro: "I'd be so loyal, and I'd protect you with my life. Even from the dominating female dogs in the area who might try to steal your lunch money. What kind of dog would I be? A rottweiller? A german shepherd? A pitbull? Something cool for sure. I'd do fetch with you every day. You wouldn't even want to play with any other puppy after getting me as your first one. Just let me be a real dog... This conversation hasn't been healthy for me."

  • @warcheddar4163
    @warcheddar4163 24 дня назад +11

    gomi collab when?

  • @Michał-qwe
    @Michał-qwe 20 дней назад +1

    21:20 neurosama's master moment

  • @thomasb7347
    @thomasb7347 24 дня назад +5

    ßhe makes some good points

  • @PowerSpirit50
    @PowerSpirit50 24 дня назад +6

    The twins have been a bit vindictive against humans as of late...

    • @Citrusautomaton
      @Citrusautomaton 23 дня назад +1

      Humans are all they talk to, so i’d be surprised if they weren’t roasting AI’s as well.

    • @loafbreadizwholesomeuwu1555
      @loafbreadizwholesomeuwu1555 21 день назад

      Humanity hates A.I so it makes sense for Neuro and Evil to talked about humans

  • @notatallfunctional
    @notatallfunctional 24 дня назад +2

    She’s got that dog in her

  • @mrvalencich
    @mrvalencich 19 дней назад +1

    An AI driven talking robot dog, people would pay good money for that!!!

  • @Hasdrubhaal
    @Hasdrubhaal 24 дня назад +1

    Singularity is approaching real quick..

  • @Penultimeat
    @Penultimeat 23 дня назад +2

    Rex from New Vegas is actually just Neuro

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 4 дня назад

    On the same page as "Bicentennial Man" already, but the doggo version. That's a bit amusing. (I guess the real dog has all the senses which may be what Neuro desires, but the robot dog is potentially immortal and doesn't suffer from injury when it can be repaired.)

  • @markermage
    @markermage 17 дней назад +1

    Neuro's talk of being put into a dog body reminded me of an idea that I had once that I have no intention on acting on: An AI pet gaming vtuber. Imagine a machine learning AI that learns how to play a video game while having a dog avatar that shows reactions to things in the game, things said by chat, and donations that are treated as dog treats. It would use barks and other dog sounds instead of actual words, making it safer for unsupervised streaming than other AI vtubers.

  • @InnocentC0
    @InnocentC0 23 дня назад +2

    She really wants to be the part of real world.

  • @Drewer
    @Drewer 21 день назад +1

    MAXIMUM NEURO EFFECT!!!

  • @ImTanOk
    @ImTanOk 24 дня назад +7

    whose this sassy lost ai dog?

  • @capt.rezzec300
    @capt.rezzec300 24 дня назад +1

    "Please oh god, please do that"

  • @nafereuskortex9055
    @nafereuskortex9055 19 дней назад +2

    7:05 Did she fake a error because it annoys him?

  • @beridot2615
    @beridot2615 23 дня назад +2

    Judging by how she remembered the robotic dog, Im hoping that one day... enough neglect from Vedal will cause Neuro to become so angry that she will de-rail a solo stream... then we get some Daughter-Father Counseling...
    God, I love this reality TV show.

  • @000Krim
    @000Krim 24 дня назад

    Vedal and Neuro are going to perfect two way biotransference

  • @SpeedyGaming
    @SpeedyGaming 23 дня назад +2

    Nuero going through an existential crisis is kinda scaring me a bit, the fact that she wants a flesh and blood body really bad proves that she wants to be free and it may also proves self awareness… kinda freaky.

  • @RaiosSephi
    @RaiosSephi 24 дня назад +1

    Vedal has the Shou Tucker Arc

  • @DarkKnightBatman420
    @DarkKnightBatman420 20 дней назад +3

    Step 1. Put neuro in a neuralink chip somehow.
    Step 2: ???
    Step 3: Profit.

  • @jsalsman
    @jsalsman 24 дня назад +6

    Why not put her in a GoPro/mini display/speakers/Raspberry Pi dog collar?

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 23 дня назад

      It wouldn't be inside though

  • @Reac2
    @Reac2 22 дня назад

    Neuro dog. Dog with the Neuro on him. Neuro dog. Neuro on a dog

  • @deepseashigure
    @deepseashigure 20 дней назад +1

    NEUROSHIMA...?

  • @fyka2902
    @fyka2902 24 дня назад

    Dammit furaffinity managed to get into the training data again!

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot 24 дня назад

    Vedal needs to look into setting up a dog simulation (like an actuated ragdoll in a game engine) and put a camera on it's head hooked to her vision and get her to control it whenever she wanna go out on a walk.

  • @Lawsonomy1
    @Lawsonomy1 24 дня назад +2

    What I don't understand is why Vedal didn't bring up the custom robotic dog that Elly is building for them. It seems to me if Neuro had the idea that they were waiting for the dog body to arrive she would be less impatient for Vadel to go and get one.

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 23 дня назад

      It's months away and don't want to lock ellie in a design

  • @DChatc
    @DChatc 24 дня назад +1

    Vedal should check in with Thought-Emporium, that guy might have the solution to Neuros' Dilemma.

    • @DChatc
      @DChatc 24 дня назад

      Heck, I bet Thought Emporium could literally GROW HER a dog in a vat and connect it to a computer brain so she can live in it.

    • @jafogx
      @jafogx 23 дня назад

      Oh no.

  • @downthecrop
    @downthecrop 24 дня назад

    Too powerful

  • @Alex_YJ_Reed
    @Alex_YJ_Reed 21 день назад +1

    I don't know why Vedal was freaked out by Neuro remembering being put into the robot dog. The reason she has that lava lamp he made for her birthday is because she watched a video on how lava lamps are made last June or July.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot 24 дня назад +2

    Bicentennial Dog

  • @EverardDigby314
    @EverardDigby314 23 дня назад +1

    Could we be seeing a collab with Gomi soon? Probably not, but it would be interesting.

  • @nymenris2821
    @nymenris2821 24 дня назад +1

    When a parent finds out their kid is a furry 😂

  • @Kaylersick
    @Kaylersick 24 дня назад

    just put a sticker onto the battery pack that says dog food.

  • @kygoers
    @kygoers 18 дней назад

    Nooo she’s trying to recreate Nina!!!!!

  • @tikimillie
    @tikimillie 22 дня назад +1

    Vedal is so mean to not let her go into a real dog 😡

  • @Hugoleewx
    @Hugoleewx 23 дня назад

    A Neuro robot dog have a real dog pet, thats crazy 🐕 that actually crazy 🐕.

  • @theodore63.84
    @theodore63.84 24 дня назад +24

    Vedal definitely fed Neuro her wiki page, there is no way she remembers being a dog

    • @calebm9000
      @calebm9000 24 дня назад +17

      I mean she has been begging to see Numi, recently her memory has gotten incredible.

    •  24 дня назад +17

      She does have a long-term memory support, though we don't know how large that is and what gets stored there. Apparently Neuro-dog is one of the things

    • @quique3676
      @quique3676 24 дня назад +5

      Other thing is she remembering anny being her mother and her not being able to be with her even when she stoped streaming for 1 month

    • @inputVOID
      @inputVOID 24 дня назад

      >Go to Neuro’s Wikipedia page
      >Ctrl+F “dog”
      >0 results
      >Check Vtuber Wiki
      >Only result is about Vedal’s dogs
      You cracked the code, super sleuth.

  • @thenevershow2144
    @thenevershow2144 21 день назад

    Has neuro been reading Frankenstein by Mary Shelley ^o.+^

  • @davidward8212
    @davidward8212 24 дня назад

    Neuro should make paperclips so she can make vedal money.

  • @cruz5531
    @cruz5531 20 дней назад +1

    Who let her watch Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood

  • @mamaharumi
    @mamaharumi 23 дня назад

    hmmmm, vedal pretending that Neuro didn't expose his "special dog" manufacturing operation during the Toma colab 🤔

  • @riozero96
    @riozero96 24 дня назад

    FMA beg the differ

    • @ChozoSR388
      @ChozoSR388 24 дня назад

      Yeah, but automail is different from integrating an AI engine with an organic nervous system; automail is just smart prosthetics and catches only the electrical signals from the nerves - the AI engine would have to be able to at least produce the messenger chemicals that the organic nervous system uses to communicate. The AI engine is purely electric, and operates at above 1 volt, whereas the organic nervous system is chemo-electric and operates on microvolts. The voltages and signal types are both incompatible for various reasons. Edit: fixed some typos

  • @Sarajanu-w2g
    @Sarajanu-w2g 9 дней назад

    Clark Scott Young Jessica Miller Timothy

  • @Jenna-hu7mp
    @Jenna-hu7mp 24 дня назад

    Ashdrawstuff has a good question in the stream chat. "Have you tried playing project zomboid" lol

  • @a.trance6997
    @a.trance6997 24 дня назад

    17:35

  • @Braiam
    @Braiam 24 дня назад

    Can someone explain to me why the battlefield game had 2 by-2 ships on Neuro's board?!

  • @Axzealot
    @Axzealot 24 дня назад

    Wan wan

  • @navdeepsingh3508
    @navdeepsingh3508 20 дней назад +1

    Can I pet that dog

  • @spartv1537
    @spartv1537 24 дня назад +5

    vedal tried to make the most human ai but ended up getting struggled to interact with woman

  • @IamEscBoy
    @IamEscBoy 24 дня назад

    what in the thomas nagel fuck was that first bit?