Do We Actually Need Debt?

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  • @EconomicsExplained
    @EconomicsExplained  4 года назад +74

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    • @blackmaster999
      @blackmaster999 4 года назад

      FOOL! It's debt why Europe, America, Australia, Japan etc, economies are falling apart and poverty is increasing. An economy run on debt doesn't work which is why most people in Western countries have little to no wealth. Black countries in Africa and the Caribbean are the best-run economies people in Black countries have little debt and most people fully own their own homes unlike people in the west who rent and depend on mortgage.

    • @Jcewazhere
      @Jcewazhere 4 года назад

      "[Homes] are just inert buildings that don't produce anything" I've never heard a better argument for installing solar panels and having a productive garden/basement mushroom farm/weed closet/etc :D

    • @gn3441
      @gn3441 4 года назад

      Could robotics spell the end of capitalism?

    • @gn3441
      @gn3441 4 года назад

      @peace leader But is that still capitalism? The advantages of automation are too great to pass for any business to stay competitive ergo, any business will end automatized. Therefore there won't be anyone with a job and then no customers. The only variable left is scarcity.

    • @gn3441
      @gn3441 4 года назад

      @peace leader In general I agree with you, we are on the edge of mastering our destiny.
      Nevertheless capitalism is heading to is own end. The virtues it have are similar to survival fitness but the problem is that multinationals became too dominant because they can harvest and store resources and knowledge out-competing any other business. This is similar as Humankind have taken control over the rest of the species.
      On the other hand, robotics just makes all irrelevant.

  • @scaper12123
    @scaper12123 4 года назад +153

    "Sometimes, people with lots of money don't necessarily have great ideas." Truer words have never been spoken.

    • @maximilian19931
      @maximilian19931 3 года назад +6

      One name: ELON MUSK

    • @nimrod06
      @nimrod06 Год назад +1

      Neither would they spot good ideas for lending money

    • @rhine2y6y
      @rhine2y6y 3 месяца назад

      I don't think that statement was made with moralistic overtones, as your statement might be suggesting. An equally true statement could be made that most people, poor or rich, probably are pretty poor allocators of excess capital, especially in a modern society with increasingly complex enterprises and investment opportunities.

  • @GamerzShit
    @GamerzShit 4 года назад +1830

    His search history:
    "Business people talking and smiling very happily."
    "Man on roids lifting weights epically and dramatically."
    "Homeless man on the street, very sad and shocking!"
    "Roses"
    "Burning roses"

    • @spicychad55
      @spicychad55 4 года назад +53

      Also: "how to lengthen my RUclips videos for maximum ad revenue"

    • @josephrobinson6171
      @josephrobinson6171 4 года назад +69

      Spicy Chad i mean he doesn’t have any 10:30 kind of length videos really

    • @spicychad55
      @spicychad55 4 года назад +2

      @@josephrobinson6171 if you look at his "Videos" section on his channel page, you'll see 98% of his videos are over 10 minutes within the past 7 months. This isn't a new thing for him, he is clearly gaming the system.

    • @patrickdolan1523
      @patrickdolan1523 4 года назад +82

      @@spicychad55 You have no idea what gaming the system is. Making a video longer than 10 minutes is not gaming the system, making a video that is exactly 10:05 is gaming the system.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 4 года назад +24

      I bet he has a huge shutterstock video bundle or something and just picks out a few each time. You can often get big packs of rather random stuff for a few tens of dollars.

  • @EconomicsExplained
    @EconomicsExplained  4 года назад +1378

    Last time I was this early mortgage bonds were a solid asset class.

    • @matth23e2
      @matth23e2 4 года назад +27

      bruh

    • @Batien
      @Batien 4 года назад +24

      Thats cheating

    • @ducknguyen1962
      @ducknguyen1962 4 года назад +8

      bruh

    • @bananalord8461
      @bananalord8461 4 года назад +11

      I call hax

    • @Trekfolie
      @Trekfolie 4 года назад +30

      Last time I was this early I got a solid 5% rate on my saving account

  • @manofculture8026
    @manofculture8026 4 года назад +169

    "First casualty of war being morals"♥️ That's why we love EE

  • @kaen_tqk3918
    @kaen_tqk3918 4 года назад +623

    This channel is slowly making me want to take up economics.

    • @JamesAJ
      @JamesAJ 4 года назад +75

      Dude same. This and r/wsb has actually gotten me to binge on investopedia, bloomberg, and a whole bunch of finance basics.
      What's happening to me?!?

    • @jacob9673
      @jacob9673 4 года назад +80

      If you’re going to college get a science or math degree, it gives you a more rigorous quantitative background that helps you move into economics.

    • @furinick
      @furinick 4 года назад +29

      A good teacher does wonders

    • @TylerSolvestri
      @TylerSolvestri 4 года назад +27

      I love economics but I hate math lol

    • @allamasadi7970
      @allamasadi7970 4 года назад +12

      @@JamesAJ I think the finance niche on RUclips has blown up over the last few years

  • @nurainiarsad7395
    @nurainiarsad7395 3 года назад +53

    Fundamentally the difference between the two systems is that the interest-avoiding one forces capital lenders to have skin in the game and risk consequences.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 3 года назад

      No, that is not a fundamental difference. If someone defaults on a traditional interest bearing loan, whoever holds the loan isn't somehow guaranteed to re-coup even the principle, much less the interest owed.

    • @jasonlin1013
      @jasonlin1013 3 года назад +4

      @@Sphere723 not true, remember when banks were bailed out?

    • @KJ-od8wq
      @KJ-od8wq 2 года назад +1

      @@jasonlin1013 the “bailout” that were loans that the companies had to pay back?

  • @mattbutler2692
    @mattbutler2692 4 года назад +430

    Damn, you really be pumping these videos out like you're trying to put food on the table during a crisis

    • @tengkualiff
      @tengkualiff 4 года назад +37

      probably since he is stuck at home

    • @19MAD95
      @19MAD95 4 года назад +7

      Tengku Aliff that’s the joke

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 4 года назад +33

      I think he spends too much time on wsb and has to recoup his losses from derivatives gambling

    • @beback_
      @beback_ 4 года назад +4

      Or just bored

    • @changyang1230
      @changyang1230 4 года назад +12

      It’s probably good business - I bet videos about economy is even more popular than usual in uncertain time like this.

  • @mykeprior3436
    @mykeprior3436 4 года назад +530

    Imagine making the banks responsible for what they're investing into and creating servitude for?
    GASP.
    Debt should've been a tool of last resort, never running the entire machine.

    • @hongvicodes
      @hongvicodes 4 года назад +11

      Debt is not a given - EE

    • @shriekinleada794
      @shriekinleada794 4 года назад +9

      Can’t fund a loan without a debtor. It’s a two way street.

    • @Eric149162536
      @Eric149162536 4 года назад +19

      Banks already have an interest in checking businesses though. Individuals too. Banks ALREADY lose money if their borrower goes bankrupt under the current system.

    • @keldonlemon
      @keldonlemon 4 года назад +2

      Myke Prior we'll said mate.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 4 года назад +35

      @@Eric149162536 not if they are bailed out by the gov every time

  • @devdixit2440
    @devdixit2440 4 года назад +356

    Last time I was this early, triple +AAA rated mortgage bonds only had +AAA mortgages in them.

    • @tackontitan
      @tackontitan 4 года назад +4

      Damn, that's early

    • @hellfun1337
      @hellfun1337 4 года назад +2

      @@리주민 I think it only goes down to B

    • @reneroux2391
      @reneroux2391 4 года назад +3

      @@리주민 watch the big short

    • @officialgamingmusify
      @officialgamingmusify 4 года назад +1

      리주민 nope it goes all the way down to junk bonds which are usually debts that have little to no chance of being repaid

  • @songofyesterday
    @songofyesterday 4 года назад +115

    "Houses are not productive assets" ...unless you're in Asia, where it's perfectly legal to vend street food from your porch. Man I miss street food on every corner.

    • @peterrose5373
      @peterrose5373 4 года назад +8

      This is a zoning problem. and it's created by the municipality, not the nation. Build your house in a neighborhood business or mixed use zone.

    • @heatherswanson1664
      @heatherswanson1664 4 года назад +18

      The problem is North America is pretty much exclusively built on the single use zones.

    • @SherrifOfNottingham
      @SherrifOfNottingham 4 года назад +8

      Fun fact about Houston...
      The reason you can't sell street food from your house has nothing to do with the law, as there's no city held zoning laws, the problem is that HOA's and residential developments have their own rules built into that specific community.

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 4 года назад +5

      Here in the Philippines, we have "sari-sari" stores, which are household convenience stores that you don't need to go out to the main road to get to busy convenience stores like 7-Eleven to buy arguably more expensive items; easy to buy pieces, rather than bulks (which retailers who do sell, do) -- wonder how many other countries do this.

    • @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906
      @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906 4 года назад

      @@zjzr08 I think SE Asian countries and India have similiar stores

  • @joaovitormatos8147
    @joaovitormatos8147 4 года назад +1370

    COVID: happens
    EE: *[goes into a monetarist rabbit hole]*

    • @stevencooper4422
      @stevencooper4422 4 года назад +39

      FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD

    • @TV-mn1zd
      @TV-mn1zd 4 года назад +2

      lol

    • @robertmiller6444
      @robertmiller6444 4 года назад +28

      Was thinking the same thing. What happened - he used to get it right and make so much sense. Monetarism is just mercantilism 2.0.

    • @Ivanfpcs
      @Ivanfpcs 4 года назад +40

      I'm LOVING it!!! I never though so much about debt before this videos!

    • @blacksnow7106
      @blacksnow7106 4 года назад +5

      isn't most of us go into a rabbit hole?
      isn't that why the conspiracy theorists are going wild?

  • @JackRackam
    @JackRackam 4 года назад +13

    I have to say, I love these speculative mometary theory videos. I'm not always sold on everything you present, but I love that you're presenting new ways to think about money that had never occured to me before

    • @artski09
      @artski09 4 года назад

      you going to do a video about some crazy banker or merchant?

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 4 года назад +1

      As a point Europe always had banking, and Islamic Banking isn't actually new to the west, we just call them hedge funds these days.

  • @masterofpureawesome
    @masterofpureawesome 4 года назад +510

    Mr Nook: The Bells, hand them over

    • @riyvk
      @riyvk 4 года назад +18

      *points gun at you*
      Your Liver, hand it over

    • @jamescanjuggle
      @jamescanjuggle 4 года назад +2

      Mr Nook: Those bells you got there better be for me, Toss Boy. Trigger fingers been twitchy all week and it be a shame to lose those knee caps of yours if I were to slip.

    • @Pi-Face
      @Pi-Face 4 года назад +1

      Send in the raccoon goons!

  • @chancellorpalpatine7486
    @chancellorpalpatine7486 4 года назад +1103

    Americans: So the average net worth for all ages under 30 is now negative. That won’t have any unintended consequences.

    • @drjp4212
      @drjp4212 4 года назад +100

      It's just how it works currently. Debt/leverage is like steroids: short term boom and long term crash.
      It isn't a "inherent Capitalism feature" as proposed by Marx, in the end.

    • @remasteredzero4076
      @remasteredzero4076 4 года назад +97

      @@drjp4212 its a band-aid to keep the system running, but in the end it is just delaying the inevitable

    • @jackdeniston9326
      @jackdeniston9326 4 года назад +10

      Has been this way for hundreds of years

    • @Dr_Bille
      @Dr_Bille 4 года назад +85

      @@jackdeniston9326 So what? That doesn't mean it's a good system, or even sustainable. I think it's fairly obvious the current system cannot last forever, which a system a society is built on should be able to. It might last a few hundred years more, but eventually, it will all come crashing down, guaranteed

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 4 года назад

      @@drjp4212 will happen, though.

  • @benjaminbrand60
    @benjaminbrand60 4 года назад +618

    “Is there such a thing as good debt?”
    *Dave Ramsey has entered the chat*

    • @chrisbrown6168
      @chrisbrown6168 4 года назад +55

      What's your monthly income?

    • @MrTripleAgamer
      @MrTripleAgamer 4 года назад +15

      That's what I was thinking ! Love Dave 👍

    • @brycecaulkins7662
      @brycecaulkins7662 4 года назад +21

      Even Dave Ramsey allows for a mortgage...

    • @jmitterii2
      @jmitterii2 4 года назад +13

      @@brycecaulkins7662 That's because he has a house to sell to you, and if he's not selling that house to you, he's depending you being a ding bat bidding that house up so his house is sold just as high if not higher.
      :) Dave is a biggest swindler going to the churches to peddle is gimmick. What a great guy. Laughs his behind all the way to the bank.

    • @MK_ULTRA420
      @MK_ULTRA420 4 года назад +16

      @@jmitterii2 R I C E A N D B E A N S

  • @mulllhausen
    @mulllhausen 4 года назад +74

    Re: housing - you should have talked about how someone on a teacher's salary in the 1950s used to be able to buy a house outright after saving for something like 4 years.

    • @l30588
      @l30588 4 года назад +4

      Gotta remember how many people there were in 1950 vs today, way more demand for housing

    • @mulllhausen
      @mulllhausen 4 года назад +6

      ​@@l30588 house prices have tripled since 2000 in the uk for example. and around the western world house prices have at least doubled since 2000. the population has not tripled or doubled since 2000 though.
      www.mansionglobal.com/articles/u-k-home-prices-tripled-in-two-decades-210729
      >To fight this recession the Fed needs more than a snapback; it needs soaring household spending to offset moribund business investment. And to do that, as Paul McCulley of Pimco put it, Alan Greenspan needs to create a housing bubble to replace the Nasdaq bubble.
      www.nytimes.com/2002/08/02/opinion/dubya-s-double-dip.html

    • @bprosperie
      @bprosperie 4 года назад +2

      My grandparents paid $600 for a nice 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house.

    • @DiscoFang
      @DiscoFang 3 года назад +1

      @@mulllhausen Cash house price is a red herring. As pointed out in this video, access to debt on a tangible asset is how we buy that roof over out head. And as pointed out in the first comment of the this thread, it's been that way since the 60's and 70's. Houses were already "unaffordable" in cash terms in the 2000s and a 20-30 year mortgage was fairly typical. Mortgage interest rates since 2000 have plummeted (the base rate from 6% down to 0.5%, actual fixed rates from 8-9% down to 2-3%) and the same 20-30 year loans are the norm.

    • @mulllhausen
      @mulllhausen 3 года назад +1

      @@DiscoFang credit and low interest rates are the direct cause of high house prices

  • @mog7501
    @mog7501 4 года назад +12

    For some reason, the more I watch and learn from this channel, the more depressed and frustrated I get about how the world is run. I don't think this was the intended side effect but for some reason I can't not think this way anymore. Great content btw!

    • @kylepongos4532
      @kylepongos4532 4 года назад +8

      That's just the nature of the beast. The fundamental principle of economics is "unlimited wants from limited resources."

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 4 года назад +158

    The part about housing is exactly what’s wrong with college loans.
    Most people could afford college back when the only way to get in was to pay for it, now that just about anyone can go to college for just about any degree and go into debt.

    • @eriksvensson2098
      @eriksvensson2098 4 года назад +11

      Same as the housing crisis just a different subject.

    • @alegekelso
      @alegekelso 4 года назад +13

      This could also be carried over to healthcare

    • @AnishJBhave
      @AnishJBhave 4 года назад +17

      However unlike a house a college education can actually be economically beneficial in the long run

    • @stafer3
      @stafer3 4 года назад +24

      “Most people could afford college back when the only way to get in was to pay for it”
      If most people could afford it then, why more people has it now?
      Percentage of college graduates in US
      1940 - 4,6%
      1950 - 6,2%
      1965 - 9,4%
      1975 - 13,9%
      1980 - 17%
      1990 - 21,3%
      2000 - 25,6%
      2010 - 29,9%
      2015 - 32,5%
      2019 - 36%

    • @huguesjouffrai9618
      @huguesjouffrai9618 4 года назад +7

      @@AnishJBhave wtf, a house provides shelter for a whole family for a very long time: do you really think that this doesn't have economic value?
      Of course it has. And when you stop living in it you can still rent it and it will provide a steady income (just like your college education: both are investments)

  • @duo496
    @duo496 4 года назад +186

    Economics of stock footage day 3

    • @EconomicsExplained
      @EconomicsExplained  4 года назад +128

      doing my part for the stock footage creators

    • @Jegria
      @Jegria 4 года назад +12

      @@EconomicsExplained It's my favourite part of your videos. My life wouldn't be the same without them!

    • @xerogue
      @xerogue 4 года назад +1

      do you know where they are sourced?

    • @perpotet4629
      @perpotet4629 4 года назад +1

      We need this.

  • @jeremygibbs7342
    @jeremygibbs7342 4 года назад +9

    I wish there was a debt class in junior high and high school. I only had a ...two week lesson? It is so complex and vast that a whole semester should be spent on learning this stuff

  • @halvey8518
    @halvey8518 4 года назад +60

    8:30 "No hate still love ya Graham”
    What a great example by showing us our personal real estate mogul😂

  • @hpdpco6634
    @hpdpco6634 4 года назад +259

    So an islamic bank is like a holdings company? And if you are a depositor, you are actually an investor in a holdings company. So its actually owning a stock. Not much different from investing in the stock market where you own shares of the company.

    • @budi5361
      @budi5361 4 года назад +127

      Yup, more or less that's how islamic banking works. However they won't invest to bussines that considered haram like alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc. And there is a symbolic oath that you have take before you take 'loan' from islamic banking, it's like you are swearing that the money you got will only use for something good. Pretty much a good idea

    • @hpdpco6634
      @hpdpco6634 4 года назад +74

      @@budi5361 i love the idea! I would love to invest in an islamic bank even if im not muslim.

    • @budi5361
      @budi5361 4 года назад +55

      @@hpdpco6634 well yeah, all the islamic banks that i know welcome everyone regardless of their beliefs.

    • @vengefulavenger3998
      @vengefulavenger3998 4 года назад +15

      @@hpdpco6634 try gatehouse bank in the UK

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 4 года назад +27

      The hedge fund is basically the same concept, but everyone hates them. **Shrugs**

  • @saminyead1233
    @saminyead1233 4 года назад +47

    Thank you so much for addressing Islamic finances here! I am a Muslim, and I myself struggled for quite a while how Islamic finances work (I'm not a finance student anyway). Now, thanks to your video, I understand the merits! Allah bless you!

  • @sebastiaosilva886
    @sebastiaosilva886 4 года назад +67

    I would love to see your take on Government debt, like the case of Portugal and the impacts of too much out of control government debt

  • @renchesandsords
    @renchesandsords 3 года назад +6

    I think one way of thinking of debt is desperately jumping into a well to get water, after the water is gone, you can either climb out and try to look for another source or just dig yourself deeper

  • @ForgottenLore
    @ForgottenLore 4 года назад +217

    If only i was this early for my actual economics class. :)

    • @EconomicsExplained
      @EconomicsExplained  4 года назад +98

      eh well if it makes you feel any better at least you won't get stared at for showing up in you pyjamas anymore.

    • @ForgottenLore
      @ForgottenLore 4 года назад +5

      @@EconomicsExplained :D

  • @evlee1295
    @evlee1295 4 года назад +41

    "wait, it's all debt?"
    "always had been 🔫"

  • @qn5947
    @qn5947 4 года назад +141

    Don't fall victim to be a debt slave. Having no debt, you will sleep better at night. Debts will lead to stress and will take a toll on your health and mental stability.

    • @jadefalcon001
      @jadefalcon001 4 года назад +17

      Without debt I wouldn't have been able to hang on to my family home after my relatives living there died. I'm sleeping quite well at night knowing that that home stays in the family thanks to a 30-year mortgage.
      Don't insist that what works for you is universal. It isn't.

    • @parthasarathyvenkatadri
      @parthasarathyvenkatadri 4 года назад +23

      @@jadefalcon001 I don't understand how does that work ... Shouldn't your family home be yours to begin with .. without any debt ....

    • @Parcian-
      @Parcian- 4 года назад +25

      @@jadefalcon001 If you are indebted, this house is not yours. You just think it is.

    • @mrmeseeks8790
      @mrmeseeks8790 4 года назад

      Debt itself is a mental state, not for every limpy sissy Tom.

    • @shriekinleada794
      @shriekinleada794 4 года назад +11

      jadefalcon001 lmao the bank owns the home mate, not you

  • @ozzyfromspace
    @ozzyfromspace 4 года назад +14

    7:10 (rough transcript) “Most people in developed cities don’t have enough money to just buy homes, and if you do... hey, how ya doin”? Patreon link in the description” 😂😂😂😂😂 I love this guy

  • @qubex
    @qubex 4 года назад +225

    Islamic banking maintains “skin in the game” for the originators, to use Nassim Taleb’s terminology.

    • @vengefulavenger3998
      @vengefulavenger3998 4 года назад +56

      @marios gianopoulos they have charity for the poor as well

    • @khrashingphantom9632
      @khrashingphantom9632 4 года назад +44

      James Junghanns True because the belief is that interest "makes a person a slave".

    • @vengefulavenger3998
      @vengefulavenger3998 4 года назад +12

      @@리주민 Regardless of your religion, equity banking is an idea for everyone. (Except for the criminal banksters running our country of course).

    • @robertmiller6444
      @robertmiller6444 4 года назад +5

      @marios gianopoulos No, they just disallow the use of the word "usury". They just go through complex machinations to make it look like usury isn't involved when it really is, it's just hidden and called something different. The simple reality is, no one is going to give up their use of their money and hand it over to you, at _their risk_ without something in return for that loss of use and incurring of risk. Why do people think that they are somehow owed the use of other people's money for free?

    • @earlh
      @earlh 4 года назад +1

      They also charge higher rates than a normal bank would, so in practice you end up paying about the same if not more using their "interest-free" mortgage system.

  • @exPrimer13
    @exPrimer13 4 года назад +2

    I must say man, I am not an economist by any stretch but all of this has been very fascinating to me recently. I had watched your videos in the past, but it wasn't until this crisis that I really started to dive in and research it. Your videos have been an invaluable tool to me to getting a better understanding of our society. Thank you for the effort you put in.

  • @caesx6537
    @caesx6537 4 года назад +52

    If anyone is interested the music at the beginning was
    Trans Siberian Express - Luella Gren

  • @jaioxung
    @jaioxung 4 года назад +6

    A very succinct and accurate explination of debt I once heard was "stealing value from the future and using it today". When you sign a loan for something you are literally robbing your future self...feels quite different when you think of it that way.

  • @renxy548
    @renxy548 4 года назад +128

    Money is so outdated. In 2100, we trade bottle caps

    • @wigglebot2368
      @wigglebot2368 4 года назад

      RIP

    • @stonie658
      @stonie658 4 года назад +5

      They will be hard to come by, just like money.

    • @physe8052
      @physe8052 4 года назад +6

      [New Vegas intensifies]

  • @yungcripple
    @yungcripple 4 года назад +53

    Me: Assumes
    Economics Explained: ASHUMES

    • @TheHellogs4444
      @TheHellogs4444 4 года назад

      It's usually azzumes, spelled assumes even though it sounds nothing like ace-umes

    • @xandercorp6175
      @xandercorp6175 4 года назад +3

      @@TheHellogs4444 None of the major English-speaking countries pronounce it "azzumes". This is not entirely your fault, as you are simply repeating a mispronunciation; but in the modern era where information is freely available, there is no reason you could not find out one of the proper pronunciations.

  • @cuteButKindaDeadlyBreloom
    @cuteButKindaDeadlyBreloom 4 года назад +85

    Leverage is a tool, like a saw. It's the users choice whether to cut a tree or saw your arm off

    • @jadepenn7407
      @jadepenn7407 4 года назад +7

      Make a dangerous tool safer and still performs the task well

    • @bersah4517
      @bersah4517 4 года назад +1

      Very well said 25 $

    • @apricotcomputers3943
      @apricotcomputers3943 4 года назад

      Yep

    • @rashkavar
      @rashkavar 4 года назад +9

      Leverage is the chainsaw of the financial world: Swing it carefully in measured amounts, you get a LOT done. Play around like it's a lightsaber, and someone loses an arm and a leg.

    • @Acid31337
      @Acid31337 3 года назад

      Better not to give any extra tool to politicians.

  • @ratatataraxia
    @ratatataraxia 4 года назад +2

    Never had money, never plan to. Still one of my favorite channels.

  • @katyoutnabout5943
    @katyoutnabout5943 4 года назад +24

    7:23 well done. Smooth AF

  • @adventureshark631
    @adventureshark631 4 года назад

    I watched this and kept thinking - so what so what so what, we can't go back. Then you came to your final thoughts...I was plesently surprised. If more people watched this and took it to heart it could actually help them. Thanks and I am glad I made it through the end.

  • @crimsonfury949
    @crimsonfury949 4 года назад +220

    Pay your bells or Tom Nooke will break your god damn kneecaps kids.

  • @manishm9478
    @manishm9478 4 года назад +1

    I keep coming back to this video to refresh myself on your points. Really interesting perspective you give here, and very different to the mainstream narrative around money and debt!

  • @user-tl5ec2po1b
    @user-tl5ec2po1b 4 года назад +198

    I wonder if the underground reptile societies use debt just like us?

    • @olli9764
      @olli9764 4 года назад +51

      No, they live in perfect communism

    • @ogorangeduck
      @ogorangeduck 4 года назад +21

      they secretly control all the debt and money in the world

    • @BobDeVikingKing
      @BobDeVikingKing 4 года назад +16

      Anthony Kruna we usually just steal from you guys whenever we need something. Like no one notices when you buy a 3.52 bag of flammen hots and get my boi Vinny to just say that you bought them.

    • @TV-mn1zd
      @TV-mn1zd 4 года назад

      Maybe

    • @user-tl5ec2po1b
      @user-tl5ec2po1b 4 года назад +3

      @@olli9764 You speaking from experience comrade reptile?

  • @ahmedhosny2412
    @ahmedhosny2412 4 года назад +7

    Thank you very much for this explanation. I am a muslim and never understood islamic banking until now. You are absolutely brilliant.

  • @jamespungello8361
    @jamespungello8361 4 года назад +100

    Re: Mortgages. If we stopped allowing people to finance homes then the home prices might go down but wouldn't the rent prices skyrocket with all the new demand for rentals? Would that still be better?

    • @vengefulavenger3998
      @vengefulavenger3998 4 года назад +33

      Rents couldn't skyrocket more than than the house price.
      So I guess the question is how much would the house prices collapse? 80%? 90%?

    • @georgeilynch2303
      @georgeilynch2303 4 года назад +26

      Higher rents= Higher value for the infrastructure = More building = Equilibrium (without debt)

    • @jamespungello8361
      @jamespungello8361 4 года назад +3

      @@vengefulavenger3998 Depends on the timeframe you're talking about. If you mean monthly payments then yeah but that's a huge gap between home price and current monthly rent (ie lots of runway for increased prices). Plus it doesn't really matter what the rent is if you can't purchase until you have 100% of the cash since you're given no option, you have to live somewhere.

    • @jamespungello8361
      @jamespungello8361 4 года назад +2

      @@georgeilynch2303 But what about areas where they can't build enough to keep up with that? Wouldn't that also drive house prices up as the higher value as a rental property attracts investors with deep pockets?

    • @sedatmehmed4371
      @sedatmehmed4371 4 года назад +12

      @@jamespungello8361 People will start moving someone else. You can't expect that the demand will be infinite for some area. After the rents skyrocket beyond certain level, workers will move somewhere else, where rentals are lower and create the next population center there. Also you are forgetting that if debt doesn't exist at all financial sector will not exist at all, so who will buy a lot of houses?

  • @danaziz1675
    @danaziz1675 4 года назад +2

    That patron advertisement was just so smoothly added. Well played good sir

  • @nathanalexander-leduc9168
    @nathanalexander-leduc9168 4 года назад +86

    Economics Explained: Do we actually need debt?
    Dave Ramsey: No.

    • @ricecake1228
      @ricecake1228 4 года назад +7

      Everybody except economists: No

    • @olivercuenca4109
      @olivercuenca4109 4 года назад +1

      @@OneUndOnlee Good debt only seems like good debt if you presume that the present will always be like the future.

  • @stooge_mobile
    @stooge_mobile 4 года назад

    Dude I was trying to be productive. My man, you release videos so often I can't even let the profound implications of the last one sink in before there's a new one. Loving the content!

  • @jesseteixeira6284
    @jesseteixeira6284 4 года назад +57

    People talk about 'living within your means'. As far as I'm concerned, that means maintaining zero debt. Debt in itself was designed initially as a means to extend the purchasing power of the average person. However, history has shown that debt is addictive and often becomes so extensive that many cultures have written laws requiring periods of debt forgiveness to prevent the formation of insurmountable instability in the economic system. To have debt is to live beyond your means. To pursue the furtherance of debt is to destabilize the pillars of society. When inequality grows, society suffers and decays.
    Also, this argument is predicated on the necessity of landlords and treating things like housing as a private commodity. As he admits, housing is a vital good. If you don't have a home, you are vastly more likely to die of exposure. Basic health and housing should be treated as a right. Being a landlord is not a job, and should never be classified as one. Landlords are not a necessity. They can be replaced by community organizations like housing associations, which are more open to hearing your problems as long as you participate. Democracy is a good thing, and I honestly don't understand why people prefer living under what essentially amounts to micro-monarchy in the form of landlords.
    Now granted, I'm not saying we should socialize all housing; if someone wants to build a McMansion, they can go do that and sell it for whatever they want. But unless there is a metaphorical floor underneath people if they fall on hard times, then essentially you are condemning anyone with bad luck to an early grave. Everyone should be entitled to basic access to healthcare (doesn't even have to be the best healthcare, just enough that they don't die bankrupt), basic housing (again, doesn't have to be the best, but enough that they don't die of exposure), etc.
    It baffles me that basic human dignity in this form is so seldom taken seriously.

    • @semeeson
      @semeeson 4 года назад +7

      MOstly agree here. Important to note is that personal good financial habits dont really connect to business or state level economic decisions, they play a whole different ball game.

    • @9justify
      @9justify 4 года назад +13

      Stop arguing that housing is a human right,we needs alot of things to live and be productive.food medicine housing education are all essential to live a healthy and productive life,so where does the line stop,should goverment give free healthcare,housing,education food aka nationalize all those industry?doing that would not only mean goverment is responsible for providing those stuff,but also everyone will be working for the goverment.The state owns all the industries and is responsible for providing all the needs of the people,does that sound familiar?let me remind you soviet union collapsed from this state run economy,or the stories that it takes years to even ballot and get a lousy designed car from the state in yugoslavia

    • @DavidFernandez-od4fz
      @DavidFernandez-od4fz 4 года назад +7

      Problem here is that the average person is incredibly uneducated and irresponsible with their money. “Landlords are not a necessity” is a faulty claim given that many people need to rent because they don’t have enough to buy; the problem of the landlord is one more of emotivity than practicality, just because people dislike them doesn’t mean they’re useless. With regards to basic access to healthcare, most first world countries have healthcare that is the greatest compared to the rest of the world. As for the basic housing, it should be a right, but if you don’t work, the government shouldn’t have to house you (unless you are deeply sick or unable), it just isn’t the taxpayer’s responsibility (and that’s who it typically falls under). The concept of the “community” is dead; at least in America, where there is little to connect the most ethnically diverse country on the planet beyond money. Companionship and camaraderie die when you have little in common with the guy next to you.

    • @pillmuncher67
      @pillmuncher67 4 года назад +3

      No. Informal debt was how the economy worked in the neolithic and the early bronze age. Itr went something like this: "That's a nice cow you have there, neighbor!" - "Oh, you like it? Just take her, don't bother giving me something back, after all we're neighbors and love each other!" - now he owes you one. Three months later you walk up to him and say "Well, my son is really in love with your daughter...". Money was just a formalization and consolidation of that. The oldest money-like things we've found were IOUs, in Mesopotamia. Coins came about around 1,000 to 1,200 years later. As it turns out, they were invented as a tool in warfare. Look up David Graeber, he explains it.

    • @Origami84
      @Origami84 4 года назад

      @@pillmuncher67 Lol at this, Pillmuncher. We don't know much about the neolithic, but the holes in the skull that we found - and the obvious scarcity or resource they must had combined with human nature - makes it much more likely that they guarded what little they had jealously and violently, because it was full of robbers more than ready to take it by force.

  • @DilupthaPerera
    @DilupthaPerera 4 года назад

    "Houses are not productive assets." This was eye-opening to hear, and eloquently summarised an idea that I'd been kicking around in my head for a while.
    It's the single biggest reason I've steered clear of Australian real estate, and have instead tried to purchase undervalued equities.
    Thank you for sharing your insights. This is quickly turning into one of my favourite channels on RUclips (I've just subscribed!).

  • @621Tomcat
    @621Tomcat 4 года назад +65

    Goddammit handsome sounding Australian man. I was going to sleep in my screwed up sleep schedule. Now I’m getting educated.

    • @sklitterbeer106
      @sklitterbeer106 4 года назад +2

      I'd let EE hold me and sing me a lullaby

  • @chris0000924
    @chris0000924 4 года назад +8

    11:06 grossly incorrect.
    It forbids usury(predatory lending) not banking which always existed in one way or another

    • @zahzuhzay6533
      @zahzuhzay6533 4 года назад

      I took a class in the history of economic thpught so this part bothered me with its gross generalization. In fact ususry was legitimized by changes in interest taking in non predatory relationships and yes some pragmatism. Also, medival scholastics such as St.Thomas Aqunias argued interest in certain circumstances are good. In the class we learned how the doctrine of usury was slowly poked at until the whole thongs unraveled.

    • @craigthebrute2409
      @craigthebrute2409 3 года назад

      It doesn’t forbid usury. It forbids riba.

  • @BusinessMadhouse
    @BusinessMadhouse 4 года назад +62

    Awesome video! Been following you and your work has inspired me to start my own channel!

    • @sanketbajaj4641
      @sanketbajaj4641 4 года назад +2

      some good content you've got chaotic finance

    • @sejalchandak8060
      @sejalchandak8060 4 года назад

      Chaotic Finance awesome !

    • @surajkasat7251
      @surajkasat7251 4 года назад

      Great work mate. Saw your video. Keep it up! Stay motivated

    • @ritwiksen868
      @ritwiksen868 4 года назад

      Very well
      Have just subbe

    • @fitez7205
      @fitez7205 4 года назад

      Loved your channel! Breaking down the basics! Much needed!

  • @pojkeee
    @pojkeee 4 года назад

    Your videos are more educational than online school also its great that your Aussie, all these blokes online are from the states it’s good to have someone to watch from the same country keep up the great videos

  • @JonnesTT
    @JonnesTT 4 года назад +67

    Me a good german boi: I'm in university, I have to have at least 6 months of rent on my hands.
    Americans: I'm only 2 monthly salaries in, nah, I'm fine.
    That said, being raised by someone who's living in a "never take out a loan" mindset did give me anxious reactions every time I buy something big ._. So, maybe not so good.

    • @wumi2419
      @wumi2419 4 года назад +8

      My parents and I don't buy a lot of "luxury" items, so there's a lot of money left every month. But sometimes huge spending happens and savings from few years are gone, but events like this are basically once in a lifetime spending

    • @rwatertree
      @rwatertree 4 года назад +7

      When I was a kid I was so afraid of buyer's remorse that I saved nearly all of my allowance. It helped pay for my university books so it worked out okay.

    • @tuomio5043
      @tuomio5043 4 года назад +2

      @@rwatertree I did this but with a car.

    • @portellio_the_space_rider9473
      @portellio_the_space_rider9473 4 года назад +2

      My flatmate just moved out and took the TV. I went shopping to get a new one and then got stressed out about how much it would actualy cost.
      I don't have a TV...

    • @justin_time
      @justin_time 4 года назад +2

      Germany tried to take over Europe twice by war and failed. Now it has the largest economy in Europe and is one of the largest in the world. Turns out the wars were never needed to conquer, just sound economic policy. Germany, playing the long game. The third time is the charm! Here we go - round 3! Leeeeeeeerrrrrrroooooooyyyyyyy Jenkiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnsssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @elliottmiller3282
    @elliottmiller3282 4 года назад +1

    I wrote a long af document about why debt isn't just unnecessary but it is morally wrong. But there are four central ideas.
    - Debt is not necessary to actually purchase anything.
    - Debt can only make purchases more expensive
    - Debt does not necessarily increase wealth
    - Debt significantly encourages you to make bad decisions.
    Personally, I have been debt free for several years now. It is entirely possible to live this way. And it definitely is a pretty awesome way of living. I am thoroughly convinced , on an individual level, you don't need debt for anything. We just use debt to get the things we think we want slightly sooner at a significantly higher cost.
    You also don't need debt to fund businesses as that can be done with equity.

  • @Jose-lc6nj
    @Jose-lc6nj 4 года назад +28

    According to the us debt clock today april 19 2020 there are 439700$ of assets per citizen
    But at the same time 438485$ of liabilities per citizen
    This means the the American economy has almost the same amount of debt as it has of assets with a difference of only 1215$
    That difference was over 10k two months ago
    The fiat system is about to collapse sooner than we think

    • @BrandonshanesProductions
      @BrandonshanesProductions 4 года назад +5

      If the fiat system ends you are not gonna have a good time and if it ends the government probably isnt gonna switch to gold and stuff because its not practical

    • @P3RF3CTD3ATH
      @P3RF3CTD3ATH 4 года назад +14

      @@Ali-gh7rj yeah because a totally decentrilized currency that fluctuates like crazy is a great idea for countries to base their economy on.

    • @therealpotatomottz8706
      @therealpotatomottz8706 4 года назад +2

      Oh boy. Let's hope this acts as a wake up call to the government, but who am I kidding. A pandemic won't even do that

  • @attalan8732
    @attalan8732 4 года назад +4

    This was a very good video, but I was wondering if we could get more microeconomic videos in the future? Microeconomics are the building blocks of the economy but macroeconomics gets all the credit.

  • @hamstersmailman5517
    @hamstersmailman5517 4 года назад +4

    @2:00 is my favorite use of stock footage to date

  • @googlechromulent2049
    @googlechromulent2049 4 года назад +16

    If money can't buy happiness, I guess I'll have to rent it. :D

  • @hairohukosu433
    @hairohukosu433 4 года назад +2

    "We are the economy of making tomorrow pay for it." Losing my fucking mind over how good this quote is

  • @provolone5336
    @provolone5336 4 года назад +13

    U.S banks: we pay you interest on your savings account
    Other banks: you are a shareholder 😎

  • @AliHSyed
    @AliHSyed 4 года назад +2

    Dude, like sincerely thank you for posting so much. 🙏

  • @rodylermglez
    @rodylermglez 4 года назад +11

    Debt is like running on gas that you will put on your car next month.

  • @0121chuchurocket
    @0121chuchurocket 4 года назад +2

    where I live it's weeks of wait to get someone to come to do the drywall/fences/plumping/cabinets, etc. Same with construction, if you want to build a guest suite in your back yard it's months of wait, so saying that housing is non-productive is simply not true, if anything housing related jobs are under-staffed

  • @TheMr77469
    @TheMr77469 4 года назад +3

    I always wondered how non interest charging banks functioned. Thanks!

  • @Ott4vi4nu5
    @Ott4vi4nu5 4 года назад +1

    You are pumping out videos like you are at home all day with nothing better to do , JK. Love it , keep it on!

  • @Palatineoffacts
    @Palatineoffacts 4 года назад +23

    @5:35 is this a personal attack against me?

    • @EconomicsExplained
      @EconomicsExplained  4 года назад +17

      Yes!

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat 4 года назад +4

      protip: move to asia instead of living in your folks basement, its cheaper and the food tastes better

    • @alezacrespublik6655
      @alezacrespublik6655 4 года назад +1

      @@hurgcat Just avoid Urban East Asia, the price is insane there

    • @Palatineoffacts
      @Palatineoffacts 4 года назад +4

      @@hurgcat im already in india lol

  • @sebastiandevida4685
    @sebastiandevida4685 4 года назад +1

    "the idea of ones potential not being limitated by what money one has is a liberating idea" yeah we have been saying that for centuries

  • @chrisbrown6168
    @chrisbrown6168 4 года назад +8

    7:00 "when the alternative is living on the street, or worse, living with your inlaws" 😂🤣

  • @eligrobin3815
    @eligrobin3815 4 года назад +1

    I am surprised you didn't mention consumption smoothing in this video. It is essentially the purpose that consumer debt serves in an economy. With no debt, you have to live in a slum for 20 years to afford a house. But with debt, you get to immediately get the benefit of the house, but you have to pay it off for 30 years. The problem with too much debt is that we have allocated more consumption to now than we can actually afford. We borrow as if there are always better times ahead, and yet sometimes there are bad times ahead.

  • @dexzero
    @dexzero 4 года назад +34

    LMAO the stock images are hilarious

    • @seanbirtwistle649
      @seanbirtwistle649 4 года назад +3

      you know those flaming roses were for valentines day

    • @_--9286
      @_--9286 4 года назад +2

      2:01

    • @dexzero
      @dexzero 4 года назад

      @@_--9286 exactly :D

    • @idromano
      @idromano 4 года назад

      and a little distracting

  • @kanishkgupta677
    @kanishkgupta677 4 года назад

    you just getting better and this is the best video till now.

  • @huseinnashr
    @huseinnashr 4 года назад +5

    15:43 Last time i was this early plasma tvs were still a thing

  • @akashdutta5966
    @akashdutta5966 4 года назад +1

    Rather informative. Could you explain what happens to debt funds and equity under this scheme? Do you invest purely via banks, and do they invest only by buying infrastructure and working capital (say, buying machinery and renting it out to a manufacturing company)? Or is there another system for longer-term high risk & reward investments?
    Also, could you give us some historical data on how relatively debt-free economies have weathered these debt-fuelled recessions you mention?
    Keep up the good work!

  • @declantracy2497
    @declantracy2497 4 года назад +25

    Does all of your revenue go towards all of this stock footage?

    • @EconomicsExplained
      @EconomicsExplained  4 года назад +28

      Yes

    • @declantracy2497
      @declantracy2497 4 года назад +11

      @@EconomicsExplained I'm gonna take this as financial advice to spend my savings on stock footage.

    • @SardineBreath28
      @SardineBreath28 4 года назад +7

      Economics Explained invests in Stock footage, not stock markets now

  • @reignandbongao9497
    @reignandbongao9497 4 года назад +2

    I was to have my first Economics class of my life this semester when it was abruptly ended with the global pandemic. As the lazy student I am, I went awol on all of the online classes of my subjects that are not my major. But I legitimately think I learned more in binging this channel than I would have if the semester played out like it should've. This gave me the insight of my ponderous question about the nature of debt I asked to my professor the our first meeting. Great video as always!

  • @Seatux
    @Seatux 4 года назад +10

    So what to do with the house owning thing when salaries never rise along with inflation?
    My parents did easily save up the house deposit and paid off an interest free loan in less years than today's mortgages.
    I am seeing my contemporaries basically asking their parents to foot the initial funds for a home, I don't know a way to get one as an individual without going into debt..

    • @ADobbin1
      @ADobbin1 4 года назад +1

      It is debt that has allowed those prices to go through the roof. Sellers know they can demand a higher price because the seller will just borrow money to pay the price. This is called a sellers market. In a buyers market the prices are driven down because people are no longer willing to borrow at the prices being demanded by the seller. We have been in a sellers market for 50+ years. Add on inflation and stagnant wages for the last 40 years and you end up with prices no real person can afford, so they turn to debt. Nasty little circle.

    • @apacheattackhelicopter8185
      @apacheattackhelicopter8185 4 года назад

      You should understand that owning a house within commuting distance of a large city is a luxury reserved for the rich. And it has always been that way everywhere in the world. Just because for a short period of time after WW2 everybody could buy a house in the USA doesn't mean it's the new norm now. If you work a basic job, what you can realistically expect is owning a small apartment in an apartment complex.

  • @killianoregan9391
    @killianoregan9391 4 года назад

    This channel is brilliant! Very thought provoking and interesting. After every video I’ve seen on this channel it just gets me thinking. Keep it up

  • @ufhb6649
    @ufhb6649 4 года назад +5

    Tom Nook as thumbnail, golden

  • @gabrielaponte6403
    @gabrielaponte6403 4 года назад

    my favorite video made by this channel !!!! thanks for the great content!!!

  • @randelr8638
    @randelr8638 4 года назад +4

    EE to the rich people "Hey how're doing? Patreon link in the description below"
    Me:That was real smooth. Where did he study marketing from?

  • @Asianiels
    @Asianiels 4 года назад +1

    This is why I don't understand a lot of countries that mainly use their creditcard. In the Netherlands almost everyone uses their debitcard for store purchases, that way you can only spend what you have instead of getting a monthly creditcard bill. It almost completely erases the "bad" debt.

  • @mookosh
    @mookosh 4 года назад +5

    I disagree.
    Your entire segment on the Islamic mortgage was totally backwards. The fact that you don't recognize the transaction as being effectively identical to a mortgage is kind of surprising to me given your strong understand of economics.
    I actually have my own revolutionary ideas that landlords are entirely unnecessary, the complete opposite of the position you express around 12:30. See, I look at landlords and I think "If a tenant can pay rent for 40 years to pay off their landlord's mortgage... why do we need the landlord, why aren't banks just giving the mortgage directly to tenants?"
    The structure of mortgages which you glossed over was just how LARGE deposits need to be. It's not 5,000 dollars or even 20,000 dollars. If you want financing for your half million dollar home purchase, you better provide 100 grand up front. This is a gating mechanism to prevent smaller market participants from having access to financing which is horrifying when you think of how it perverts the market to give those with wealth a huge advantage over the average person.
    But that's a completely different video which I encourage you to explore since the disparity created by who can get loans and get loans at different rates is really the Matthew Principal incarnate.
    But returning to the issue I had with your islamic banking example, a mortgage is identical to their transactional method. A mortgage is french for "dead title". What it means is that technically the bank owns legal title to your home. You make an agreement to pay rent to the bank (mortgage payments) and at the end of your payment term, you obtain the legal title held by the bank. Your islamic example in your own words was "the bank buys a home where it sees potential and you make a deal. You pay rent for X amount of years and at the end of the term you get the home". That's just a mortgage! It's not as if the rent represents the exact amount of money that the home costed considering inflation - Islamic banks charge rent like any other landlord, meaning they can charge a higher amount than the actual value of the home they bought. Further, while it may be frowned upon to give loans, I'm not sure it's frowned upon to take loans. I am actually ignorant to this particular nuance, but if Islamic banks actually DO have the ability to take out loans for themselves - then that means they can take out a mortgage to buy the home they charge you rent on to inhabit.
    They literally just act as landlords which is objectively worse than just being a financer. Now, you may ask "why do landlords exist if they're unnecessary"? Well, perhaps unnecessary is the wrong word. The benefits of landlords, much like the benefits of automation, simple accumulate in the hands of a small group rather than society as a whole. Landlords provide financers with a stable entity with lots of assets you can pursue on a default. If Joe Shmoe defaults on his home mortgage, the bank is in trouble because his only asset of value was that home. If the bank cannot recover what it lent on the home by way of power of sale - they just lost money. But with an institutional landlord, you can create guarantors and additional liabilities on default to ensure that if the equity found in the mortgage is insufficient, other assets of the larger company may be pursued to satisfy the debt.
    Landlords exist because they make life easier for banks at the cost of making life harder for tenants. Islamic banking is just doubling down on this system. Debt isn't the problem - predatory debt structures are the problem. The bank is stuck with a home if the tenants ditch it? That's comedy. This bank gets a foreclosure without having to pay legals on enforcement and can sell the home for at least as much as they paid for it if the tenants move out and get to pocket the rent they charged as gravy!
    Debt has a purpose. Like almost all things, it works well in moderation with a capital M. You need to have responsible, transparent, multi-layered, regulatory bodies ensuring that the financial sector is kept from spiraling into get rich quick schemes via debt structures with zero concrete value. Removing debt completely is sort of like choosing not to explore the utility of fire because fire, when mishandled, can kill you, burn down forests, and destroy everything you ever loved.
    Fire can do all those things, but fire is also the most critical tool in human history which has ever existed. It is the foundation of modern civilization. We tamed it and while it still burns us sometimes, the value we derive from fire far outweighs its cost. The question isn't whether we could make a society without debt, but whether it's more optimal to make a society with debt given the correct conditions and how we might achieve those conditions.

    • @boredinlecture
      @boredinlecture 4 года назад

      You've hit the nail on the head with Islamic Banking. Islamic banking is just set up to skirt around the rules of Islam by changing the words in a contract. Whats to stop an islamic bank from "investing" in a property which is dodgy on the basis that the "renter" will probably pay enough for them to make a profit? The exact same rules apply to an islamic bank as they do a normal bank. There is nothing stopping a normal bank from rejecting your loan application on the basis they don't believe its a sound investment, that will be an active risk they will take account of during the loan application in case of a mortgage default.

    • @habeebaelwalily3081
      @habeebaelwalily3081 4 года назад

      You aren't keeping in mind the fact that in islamic banking, you own whatever percentage of the property value you have paid. So if there is a $100,000 home that the person trying to buy pays $25,000 over a year, they own %25 percent of the property. This would make a great incentive to not ditch the property and leave the bank to handle it because you partly own it.

    • @boredinlecture
      @boredinlecture 4 года назад

      Habeeba Elwalily I don’t see what difference that makes. It’s never in your interest to default because it will do almost irreparable damage to your credit rating.

    • @mookosh
      @mookosh 4 года назад

      @@habeebaelwalily3081 source me on your claim. That isn't what was mentioned in the video, but it's possible EE didn't explain the concept in enough depth. Can you give us a source which might give us more depth?

    • @mookosh
      @mookosh 4 года назад +1

      @@boredinlecture I'm actually very strongly opposed to the content of this video lol
      Normally I like EE's take on things, but I'm a lawyer specifically in the field of corporate finance and this video is a very... Skewed perspective I'd say.
      It feels like EE was trying to answer a thought experiment "could we exist without debt" then pitched a controversial argument for "why debt is bad" to make a vid with lots of engagement...
      But you really cannot just mention that the reason we have so much debt is because wars are expensive without concluding that... Debt is essential...
      Wars didn't become less expensive. International competition still demands rapid growth and debt leverage is how you maximize your growth in the short term to keep ahead of your opponents.
      So long as there is competition, debt will exist to feed it.

  • @ericjones3920
    @ericjones3920 4 года назад

    1st time watcher. Very impressive video. You have a new subscriber.

  • @Faisal-st6hl
    @Faisal-st6hl 4 года назад +26

    I was thinking the same why all religions have banned instrest
    And how will the economy go without intrest
    You forgot something I guess when people will save money to buy a home rather keeping it in a piggy bank they would try to invest it in equity and ipo makets can easily raise money and it will also grow economy on faster rate
    And can you make a video on islamic economy zakat system plz

    • @vengefulavenger3998
      @vengefulavenger3998 4 года назад +5

      @@xunqianbaidu6917 equity financing is about profit & loss sharing. It's more akin to venture capital. Debt financing just isn't.

  • @subrotoxing8214
    @subrotoxing8214 4 года назад

    This may be your best video thus FAR... syariah banking and why it makes sense

  • @hoovyzepoot
    @hoovyzepoot 4 года назад +4

    How else am I supposed to be allowed to get into your house and steal your kidneys?

  • @disrael2101
    @disrael2101 4 года назад

    One of the best video by far.. what I liked the most is the rich Arab world example of how to make an economic without direct debt

  • @noahpolicarpio1530
    @noahpolicarpio1530 4 года назад +8

    1 view. 3 comments. Ok RUclips.
    Btw, a video on One Belt and One Road Initiative, please :)

    • @Nik-wo7hk
      @Nik-wo7hk 4 года назад

      Noah Policarpio hell yeah great recommendation

  • @TenHorizons
    @TenHorizons 4 года назад

    I wrote off your idea of a debt free society at the start of the video, but when you introduced capital reallocation, it suddenly makes complete sense.
    Indeed, I see a debt free society as the way to go provided that capital reallocation becomes the new norm. Entrepreneurs will have to be able to market their ideas and answer people's questions to get a loan, which I think is needed, and not just simply get a loan.

  • @cmdr_ultraviol3nt
    @cmdr_ultraviol3nt 4 года назад +3

    "How you doin? Patreon link in the video description."

  • @prophetsspaceengineering2913
    @prophetsspaceengineering2913 4 года назад

    Very interesting perspectives in there. I'm obviously late to the party, but I still wanted to say how much I appreciate videos with a more abstract view and showcases of alternative systems (that actually exist)

  • @tychobotter
    @tychobotter 4 года назад +3

    "The sun will come out, Tomorrow, Tomorrow!"

  • @xerogue
    @xerogue 4 года назад +1

    Hello, great video as always. Is there a particular site where you source your images/videos? Does anybody know?

  • @socracle2774
    @socracle2774 4 года назад +23

    WHY would you post this at 12am. The point of following a fellow Aussie is that timezones would work with me. But no, a late night it is yet again (yes I know this comment was made at 1:30am shh)

    • @oari1150
      @oari1150 4 года назад +9

      Dude, this is not a livestream. You know you can watch it later, right?
      Maybe in the morning with a cup of joe.

    • @10908070605040302
      @10908070605040302 4 года назад +1

      everyones schedule is out the window , EE is mr worldwide , like pitbull , but more focused on economics

    • @cliffordlevy3918
      @cliffordlevy3918 4 года назад

      @@oari1150 what if it's spoiled for o.p before breakfast?

    • @ec8107
      @ec8107 4 года назад

      Why do you feel the need to watch a video as soon as it's uploaded? That's some serious FOMO.

    • @DomenBremecXCVI
      @DomenBremecXCVI 4 года назад

      @@ec8107 It's more of a FIFO than FOMO

  • @Amar-fd7cg
    @Amar-fd7cg 4 года назад +1

    Stock footage used in this video is effin on point!

  • @stefan-alinspeteanu9572
    @stefan-alinspeteanu9572 4 года назад +5

    Last time I was this early going outside for no reason wasn’t a contravention lmao

  • @BurriedTruth
    @BurriedTruth 4 года назад

    Reminds of Richard Werner’s interview about credit creation, he basically told it can be a good instrument as long as it is used for productive purposes and not given for speculation, as EE points out “if there were no mortgage loans , demand will be lower due to the inability to use loans to purchase houses which would cause a drop in prices”, we need more of Professor’s Werner’s type in government if we want to fix the failing financial system we are in currently.

  • @petero.489
    @petero.489 4 года назад +6

    EE *slightly flirting with the use of memes*
    Me: no, keep going