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Knife Making: Hamon On High Carbon Steel
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- In this video I explain how I achieved this hamon on a 1070 high carbon steel blade.
I'm pretty sure this method will work for any high carbon steel like 1080, 1090, 1095, O1, O2.
What do you guys think about this format? Let me know!
Thank you for watching :)
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Please help I can't control my hamon, I'm having trouble breathing and controlling my hamon no beat. Can you please help
Do you have any ailments that hinder breathing? Like asthma etc.
If no, it's probably just a spiritual power thing
Finally a jojoke/jojo reference
Punch yourself in the chest with your pinky really hard to force air out of your body they test it out on a frog
USE YOUR HAMON, JOJO!
Sorry dude i cant do that
Hamon got vaulted and replaced with Stands
Do a video on stands too pls
You risk warping the blade doing that side to side action in the quench. I found out the hard way just yesterday Also, i think you need a larger volume of oil since i'm not sure that small container has enough thermal capacity to cool that much steel.
"Camera confidence 10/10". That caught me off guard :D
Great video, and a beautiful knife too! That bevel jig you made is a work of art; it works so well! Thanks for sharing this.
Right on!! Love the jig & I've always been a fan of your craftsmanship. ThankQ for sharing. Florida 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Great video the hamon came out looking nice!
Looks great! Tried it once, failed miserably. Very informative video, thanks!
Awesome. I thought a hamon line exists all the way through the steel because the steel cools at different rates changing the structure. I'll research. Great video, thanks!
And you are right! :) What I meant is that the etching that makes it pop it's a surface finish. didn't explained myself really well there. Sorry :)
That sandpaper trick at the end. Just perfect!
A hamon is not a surface finish as you said. It is the borderline between two different hardnesses of the steel. It will become visible also without any acid treatment, just by polishing.
Nice video. When quenching try not to go side to side. It cools the sides off slightly different and can help introduce some slight warpage.
Very nice............again. I'm going to view your bevel jig right now. Thank you for your videos and info.
I really like your format and your techniques. Thanks for sharing.
GLADE to see and hear you!! I bought the Almazan cleaver. At 84, I decided to give to a nephew who just got 'hitched" [married] and lives several miles south of Washington DC! Loved the knife and RECOMMEND IT to any Chief or housewife.
Did you make or buy the jig? If you bought it where did you get it?
He doesn't know.
Looks great! You could also try to use metal polish instead if the handsanding after etching, it did a great job to remove the oxides for me!
Hi there. Very fine craftmanship. What's the concentration of the ferric chloride? Thanks for showing the working process
Nice to see you face and hear your voice! Finally see the man behind the hands!
Thanks man :)
Im not really a fan of putting hamon lines on ny knives but i tried it and i fell in love with it!
I really like your job you are an artist greetings from Egypt 🇪🇬 ❤️
Can you tell me what is the necessary tools to start my own amateur workshop?
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKIN' JOJO REFERENCE???
Hamon Overdrive!
The bevel jig is amazing, any videos of how you made it? assuming you made it yourself. The knife looks amazing, can't wait to see it finished.
Here you go:
ruclips.net/video/Jhslu2wTC5I/видео.html
Thanks! :)
Thank you, fantastic work as always.
Good job.
I use a 4000 grit stone for finishing.
A stone is so much easier and it puts a razor edge on it. Sand paper doesn’t seem to do as good a job.
Wow nice jig were did you find that
What a great idea with the wire for the clay. Looks great man!
Pretty pretty work bro!! Please show the finished knife in a later vid. Your grinding jig is from outer space. F-ing awesome!!!!
That jig amazing. Where did you get it?
Where did you get that bevel jog and how much does it cost? I have a bone/cartilage disease that impairs my movements so my current jig isn't working. I'd like to get pne like you have, there. THANKS!
Nice jig. But doesnt it take a long time to remove if from the jig when (if) you have to cool the blade off in water?
I made your metal bandsaw table btw, thanks for that! I have some issue with vibration, so I will need to add feet in the back or make it more sturdy I think.
Sir where you buy your steel you used??
Nice job on the hamon!
Pretty sure you're supposed to use a thinner glay solution on the hardened part of the blade, there's a full length katana creation video with a traditional japanese smith somewhere on youtube :b some old tv production, super cool if you can find it :D
Also are you sure that the Hamon is a surface feature? If you made it correctly (and it looks like it) it should be cause by the blade being differentially hardened, with everything behind the hamon being basically unhardened, I can't see why that should only be the case for the surface? Could see the line changing as you get deeper into the steel though.
The different steel phases should be present throughout the tickness (or the majority, depending on blade thickness and steel hardenability). However, etching is required to see the different phases (bringing out the hamon) and that is only visible on the surface. If you'd sand it too much, you'll remove all the etched steel and therefore the hamon will not be visible anymore (but the different steel phases are still there).
I love it my brother awesome job you the man :)
How do you deal,with it heating up and most likely destroying the temper?
Great work
looks amazing!! cant wait to see the finished knife!!
Nice nice nice I thought it looked quite tactical before the final sanding. The hamon line, I thought it was more to do with how the quench effects the hardness, the unclayed part will be fully hardened and the clayed less so, but I didn't know the line was just a few thou thick, is that correct?
It's differential hardening so the edge of the blade should be harder due to the refractory, but as his was falling to pieces, I'm not sure how well it worked. The idea of using wire may seem like a good one in theory, but it's not. If you watch the video, the only places the refractory cracked and fell off was where the wire was holding it. The wire is not a good idea as metal expands with heat as such it weakened and broke the refractory. There are plenty of recipes for the "Japanese type coating", and why he wouldn't use those is a mystery. If put on correctly, it won't fall off.
It also isn't necessary to glob it on like he did.....pretty lame attempt really, especially for someone used to making knives.
Correct! :) I totally forgot to explain what happend to the steel... Damn! :')
Awesome, great job Man.
Precioso!!! Buen trabajo compañero, saludos!!!
Nice sanding jig, and the knife turned out really nice!
How hard did the spine of the blade get?
As you used a lot of clay for an oil quench, (verses a water quench) on the blade.
As others have suggested, you need a larger quantity/bigger container of quenching fluid.
And i would not go side to side motion with the blade when quenching. As it might induce a warp.
Thanks for the video!
Great job!
Thanks brother! :)
That is such a cool knife
really great explanation!
great job - came out really good!
If you temper the knife, its like any other knife, you get homogeneous hrc and not 62 hrc edge and 40 hrc spine if you use oil you don't need to temper
I agree... this bears looking in to. The tempering after quench seems antithetical.
Semplicemente grande!
Ti seguo da un bel po' di tempo e ho guardato quasi tutti i tuoi video...
Una domanda: cosa usi per raffreddare? Olio, acqua, miscela?
Perdona la mia ignoranza... 🤔
Grazie!! :) Uso olio vegetale, niente di specifico, per gli acciai che tratto è sufficiente.
Great video. Do you sell the jigs?
Thanks! I don't :) But I have a video about how I made it
Maybe take a look at Walter Sorrels' hybrid sword polishing DVD, it goes into great detail on polishing the hamon and making it stand out without Japanese natural stones (that cost €1000+).
A water quench gives you more hamon activity, look up how to brine quench (less risk of cracking).
Awesome videos man! You just got yourself another subscriber! Keep up the great work!
Looks really great.
Could you please tell me the concentration of the ferric chloride solution? Any information will be helpful for me... Beautiful work, really enjoyed the video.
Great video! Thanks for making it👍
Thanks man! :)
i realy like your works but the harddening process... how u know that the temperature for this kind of steel is good i mean the accuracy of this type of hardening, u also dont use the charcoal u dont afraid about sulfur will react with the steel and make it fragile and vulnerable to chip or break?
Amigo fica um formato interessante belissimo parabéns.
You do good work.
i never had any trouble getting a hamon on 1060. Just heated the edge of the blade and quenched it. If the back starts to get hot, dip it in your oil. No clay needed. I could even get three hamon from three quenches. Not pretty hamon like the Japanese get with clay, but definitely hamon.
Nice! Man, you do beautiful work.
Great video mafriend
então e para isso que serve ``aquele´´ equipamento. muito bom.
Looks great bro👍🏼
Beginner knife maker here so please excuse my ignorance, but can you put a hamon on stainless steel, or only high carbon non-stainless like 1080 or 1095?
1080 and 1095 are your best bet, but W-2 steel works too.
Stainless steel has too much chromium, nickel and manganese, by the way.
Also, chromoly would not be suitable for Japanese style chromes either.
Awesome Knife 👍👍💪
Very beautiful knife. Could you give me lenth of this knife. I like this style
6:15 what kind of oil did you use?
is there some other acid beside ferric cloride that works well for the etch?
Use vinegar.
@@luciusirving5926 thanks, any kind would work? I tried using lemon juice but didn't like the result
Cool video
Very cool. Looks awesome! I really do enjoy your content
Thanks!! :)
You're a great and special man👍
What liquid you put the metal in
nice work buddy cool video
Thank you brother!
I love this
good technique
Well done brother - I like it! Thank you for the shout out!
Thanks!! :) :)
Super Job!!!
Your hamon came out pretty nice. In my last 3 or 4 videos, I have been testing hamons too. I experimented with W2 & 1095. I made a fast quench Canola(mixed with brine and dish soap), it actually worked. I tested it against Mcmaster 11 second & straight brine. I've got to try that wire method, I never thought of that, I think I saw someone do it a long time ago though. Take it easy.
Dave Erving Evader Knives can you give me the recipe for that canola brine mix?
I show what I do in my video "W2 Heat Treating and Homemade Canola Fast Quench" then show the comparison. You might want to adjust the recipe yourself.
Now you need to forge a kitchen knife. And great video bruh :D
How many time do you put de knife in the acid?
Perfect video
Muito boa técnica ...
Where do you get a grinding jig like that?
I made that :)
ruclips.net/video/Jhslu2wTC5I/видео.html
It came out great! Lloyd Marshall makes knives and he has a nice hamon technique. Look up L Marshall knives on here.
Bellissimo ! complimenti
What do you mean sand to hard, and it will what? Remove the hamon ?
Perfetto, come sempre. Ma di dove sei?
curios about your DIY heat treat oven ?
hi! , good day , can u do it on bearing? 52100 steel?
That alloy has too much chromium.
What oil did you use for quenching? Beautiful hamon!
Thanks!! I use plain vegetables oil. Works fine for 1070 or similar simple steel imo :)
That's awesome to hear. I'm worried about cracking my first blade so I was going to use olive oil and attempt a hamon, but from what I'd read it wasn't going to quench fast enough to create the temper line. Glad to see it works for you!
I like the commentary
Hello, I want to cast a 3D printed turbine in Aluminium, Is there a DIY method to produce a cast with a ''very smooth'' surface finish? Thank you!
great work man! but you should really use gloves on the acid :)
Mükemmel bir bıçak. How much?
Nice.
6:04 white powder is what ?
Hamon make powder is what ?
Please bro
How can. Ebel go so High up on blade if its 15 degrees
I ment grind bevel not ebel
What is the concrete for?
Nice
I want to learn