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I think genetically modified bacteria and other microorganisms would be our best option for transforming planets. They can have a massive effect, even on Venus if we could nake one that floats it could clear up that layer and replace it with things we need in the atmosphere or at least converted into something heavy enough to falls from the sky.
Sadly, terraforming desserts can have consequences. Like if u plant trees on Sahara, it might kill the Amazon forest. So, we need to take care of that too. But yes, I agree, planting trees in Sahara should prove to be helpful in the long run because barren deserts are pretty useless and the life forms there are scarce
@@TanjirouKamado-fl6lj Deserts might seem useless to us, but they are not for the planet. They reflect quite a lot of the sun's rays back to space helping maintain the planet's temperature according to science studies.
@@mikeofalltrades3933 True, not to forget the species that have learned to make it their home. On the other hand, a few thousand years ago it was a tropical rainforest.. and in a few thousand more, it will be tropical again. And if Scientists are already preparing for Martian missions by training in the Atacama Desert, might as well try to see if they can terraform a little piece of it.
Restoring our Own earth and cleaning it up with the most effective tech and old fashioned ingenuity first, also How can Mars magnitosphere be restored? and How long? regenerating land is not that hard. Farmers and preppers know the positive growing practices. Composting would b key to restabilizing the soil and plants use CO2. This could help with protected environment to later be expanded into the real environment once again.
Humans are a galactic pathogen and our job is to spread across the universe.. looking back at our first planet is not our nature. Terraforming a dead dry Frozen planet into a livable planet for Earth life is the greatest statement that humanity can make to the cosmos
What do we mean by "normal"? Over the ages, Earth has varied from a giant iceball with oceans frozen from pole to pole to a steaming jungle world with no ice caps and temperature shotter than anything seen today.
We cannot do that, it is actually easier to terraform another planet because we don't have to worry about the baking period that would kill everyone on Earth if we did it here.
We have not yet made a greenhouse full of plants to support some people with air and food - and you can keep the doors and windows shut tight. It still does not work. We still need to bring in fresh air and food from the outside. Good luck with opening windows for getting fresh air and calling your food store to deliver food to you ;-) It is still possible, but it needs so much cargo from Earth... And you only can travel from Earth to Mars or back every two years - every 26 months. Because in the meantime, Mars is on the other side of the sun. It's way too far away between every 26 months... This makes it way more complicated than living on the ISS. Yes, it's possible, but it requires lots of cargo...
The tech is evolving all the time, and things we once thought were impossible are gradually becoming more and more possible. Remember, there was a time when the thought of going to the moon, or creating space stations was the province of SF writers only. Settling Mars is a question of 'when' not 'if'. Sooner or later, it will happen. I'd love to see the start of it happening in my lifetime.
When , If ....but I think why is more important. It is a fact that public support for these things is waning ....folks want to know why , hell I want to know why it's worth it. I have yet to get a good answer.
@@FredrickWendroff-um2kn Pure curiosity is enough of a reason for me. Humans will explore space and live on other planets for the same reasons we left Africa thousands of years ago; why generations of explorers left their home countries to explore other parts of our planet at great risk of life and limb, in ships that were death traps in many ways and far less prepared than today’s astronauts are for venturing into our solar system and eventually beyond. It will happen. The foundations are being laid right now, so yes, it is when not if it is going to happen.
Let's review: Mars has little to no atmosphere because it does not have a magnetosphere and we currently have zero actual technology for how to re-establish it or create an artificial one. Nor any way to produce the enormous amount of energy that would be required. Martian soil is deadly and any crops grown in it would eventually kill anyone consuming them. Mars has zero tectonic activity which science has claimed is required for a healthy planetary environment. Mars has 1/3 the gravity of earth which we have no way to alter and we already know that Humans have significant health issues from prolonged exposure to low gravity. Assuming that we will eventually figure out all of the above issues, actually terraforming the planet will take many thousands of years at best and require HUGE advances in technology and new sources for the massive amount of resources required. So as far as the Title of this video is concerned, NO we cannot do any more than build limited bases that are GREATLY supported from Earth with current or even currently foreseeable technology. Maybe we should be a little more concerned about the Planet we are currently on that for some reason we seem hellbent on making it non viable for Human life and if that doesn't work we will just kill each other 😢
“Terrafarming” other planets is based on comic book physics but that shouldn’t stop government bureaucrats from wasting trillions on planning or paying “experts “ to organize it.
it's absolutely possible? We're actively doing it to earth unintentionally, it's just not an instant thing, nor do i think mars will ever have a magneto sphere
@@AmonTheWitch Show me how you’re going to terraform the Mojave desert.Ill spot you an atmosphere,with reasonable climate control,nontoxic soil,even a little occasional moisture.You’ll enjoy a short trip to transport the equivalent components that would take 11/2 years of travel,Mars,and hundreds of billions in expenses.With all these benefits in place for free we’ll see how practical it might be on a cosmic scale,with all the associated expenses,toxic soil and virtually nonexistent atmosphere and travel distances that will challenge human physiology to the point of collapse.
always wondered why they just don’t revamp their agriculture processes instead companion cropping would drastically decrease the amount of area used for farming hunting wild moose and bison instead of ranching cattle on the land would also really help the mental health crisis cheers #indigenous
You do realize there is no physical law that prohibits terraforming right? Engineering and economical challenges? Yes, but it has little to nothing to do with physics I reccomend the Kurzesagt videos on the subject
@@juimymary9951 Be specific,what exactly is your interest in this fantasy? How do you plan to benefit from it? What exactly are you willing to contribute to the effort?
Will they eventually bring animals like cow or chickens. Their manure could enhance the Martian soil. They can bring them as eggs or embryos and start them on Mars.Also what about things like earthworms or other beneficial ground bugs.
Mass drivers on the poles of the moon could send lots of supplies to Mars on a regular basis. Yet, such infrastructure would need to be built on the moon.
We struggle to lift tin can rockets out of earths gravity well, pushing a moon out of Jupiter's is so far out of our capacity it would be like a caveman trying to build that rocket.
How so... which one, never mind how... How would putting one of Jupiter's moon into mars orbit improve mars... maybe I don't know as much as I thought I did
Terra forming Venus requires new tech with complimentary results, such as multiple rocket engines based on acid phase reactions that can independently land and anchor, with a large cargo of alkaline salts that react with the acid atmosphere. These engines would not only neutralize the atmosphere, but gradually affect the planets rotation toward an ideal. By the time the atmosphere is neutralized, the reaction would reduce and the salts would become neutral, but the rotation will have changed. Massive scale, but anything would be. At least half the fuel is already there and impact would be compounded.
Don't need any tech , of course there is no need to go anywhere. We have and have had all the tech we need to have paradise right here , but we choose not to. Like they say , wherever you go , there you are.
Why would we throw all those resources down a gravity well? There will be far more people on stations, its just not economically reasonable to dump valuable things in an impoverished market.
@@thastinger345 Earth dosen't need Terra forming! Try to keep up? Humans are explorers and always have been, I'm so grateful that we have brave smart people to decide what we'll do ! I
so if we make the planet spin faster we solve globle warming It would affect temperature patterns and atmospheric circulation systems. With shorter days, the land surface would cool faster at night, while warming periods would be shorter. This could alter wind patterns, cloud formation, and precipitation distribution in different regions of the world.
Man is not causing global warming. The planet is exiting an ice age due to the polar axis procession. The procession in the earth's axis naturally cycles it between ice ages.
It depends on wether these planets have a magnetic field and an atmosphere to keep in the gases to then allow the growth of trees and greenery to produce oxygen
Yes, to me, the first most biggest problem is lack of a magnetic field... I could see some kind of shielding thing (like a big ass umbrella thing, sitting in one of the Lagrange points) to help w/ radiation... but all the work of something like an oxygen factory would useless solar storm come by & just blow it away, could have domes
Yup! I thought I was hearing things incorrectly! 🤣 it would definitely be awesome if SpaceX and/or NASA was landing people on Mars this year but obviously this might be a bit off.. Maybe in a decade or two or three…..
NASA will most likely send humans to Mars using a SpaceX rocket in the 2030s. SpaceX's starship is going to change the world sooner than people think. Just look up the progress already made on that rocket and why it's so significant.
All the people in the comments are very negativ. We as a species have already evolved very far, further then any know species (intelligently that is). In the last 100 years we had more technical innovation then in the last 1000 years together. We already have multiple robots on Mars and have been on the moon DECADES ago with old and relatively simple technology. Just thinking of the development in the next twenty years is making me excited. If there is a will there is a way. I have no doubt that we will have started terraforming the moon in the next fifteen to twenty years. Can't wait to see how far humanity will come in my lifetime.
Right there with you! Too many folks are too blinkered and shortsighted in terms of what is possible and what has already been accomplished. Humanity WILL explore space and we WILL settle Mars and elsewhere. At the same time we must clean up our home planet 🌍 and take better care of it. It is not and never has been a binary choice.
I don’t think you really know what you’re even wishing for. I remember growing up in the 70’s and 80’s thinking the same thing, and always hearing about how we’ll have flying cars by the year 2000. Well we almost live in a real life Jetsons (if you rember that cartoon), and it’s had a lot of negative consequences for humanity.
The real question is do we really want to colonize Venus? I see merit in mars because going farther away from the sun leaves us prepared for the expansion of the sun. I personally would only have specific mining colony's if even needed on Venus as we have to abandon it some day.
Good question and I think Mars is the best option if we consider how fast technology has advanced just in the last 50 years alone. So say in a million years the human race would have likely found and settled on a habitable planet or possibly even constructed a Mass-habitation platform capable of moving through the cosmos picking up materials as it goes.
Can you do an analysis of how one would relocate Mars to the moon's current orbit and push the moon to orbit Venus and what the potential consequences of all these would be...
My little grandson wants to know why Superman can't push Pluto into Venus and terraform it. I didn't have the heart to tell him that that was impossible. I think he's kind of thinking about all this terraforming stuff he seems to be getting it.
I can envision it now. Finally the long process of terraforming Mars is complete however the humans who started it have not been seen for the past 250 million years.
Mars doesn’t have enough of a magnetic field for humans to live on the surface for any significant amount of time. No amount of tree planting will change that.
This is pure science fiction. There has to be a profitable business model to pay for all of this. I haven't seen one put forth. Remember, your very best day on Mars isn't close to as good as your worst day on Earth.
No we can not if we ever could is another thing but it seems unlikely due to the different distances from the Sun of Venus and Mars.The Moon is the same distance as Earth but is probably too small to hold on to an atmosphere.Not to miss Mercury,a magnet field but rather too close to the Sun for comfort!
In a few million years, another civilization is going to be out there looking at Earth like "can we terraform this piece of crap.." so Mars was just like Earth great planet now it looks like a piece of crap so we'll just try to fix it again.. while earth prob dies and then we can be like hey lets terraform earth back... repeat repeat
Mars will require us to fix the magnetic field first, we have absolutely no good way to do that currently. The soil contains perchlorates which are also found on earth, they are toxic and usually found in areas where there is little to no diversity in the soil. There is also very low pressure on Mars, making it very difficult for water to remain on the surface and not freeze or seep back into the soil. Lastly, we don't exactly know how much elements we have available and in what quantities to augment Mars's atmosphere. We can't colonize it at this point, it needs a few prerequisites first, the bar is set quite high but not theoretically impossible. I would describe the difficulty as if you were to get up from your couch right now, train, study and work hard to get an Olympic medal and actually achieve it.
NASA can’t get back to the moon without the lander falling over after a 50 year absence. Perhaps we could terraform other planets but only through private ventures.
You're describing Blade Runner. No thanks, why not take care of the planet we have? We're nowhere near the tech needed to visit another planet (with meatbags inside), let alone colonize it.
@@ericlipps9459 If we can get humans to cooperate and share resources, that would be ideal. Currently we're sitting in a wasteful mess with three wars on our hands, what do you think the priority given the "human factor" should be?
The first Martians may want to take fertilized, chicken or quail eggs. Once they hatch, they would provide food and fertilizer. Also, fig trees are hearty and resiliant. They should be considered.
No matter how much of a good job you do to change (Terraform) the surface of another planet, the rays of the Sun will destroy everything unless you work out a way to create a magnetic field to protect it! 😉
Until humans can create and control micro-climates on a local scale, without screwing up the rest of the planet, removing deserts is impossible. It would be easier to monkey with the climate of an entire planet and see how that goes. As far as simulated gravity goes on Mars, how about magnetic suits where electro-magnet strength could be modified on various parts, say, the arms, relative to other parts. The floor would be at a constant magnetic level. Of course, this wouldn't apply outside, but it might be a good half-assed way to deal with it. I can still imagine that people might get seasick since their inner organs, especially their inner ears wouldn't be affected without maybe some minor surgery. The magnetic level would have to be pretty monstrous due to the short range of magnetic fields, and no iron could be nearby!!!
The premise of this is that we can't create a device that creates an artificial magnetic field that mimics our magnetic field on earth. I'm not aware of anyone working on any such device. If it did exist, it would be a game changer. We could terraform multiple planets in our solar system, not just mars. But the stuff out in the Kuiper belt. But, I mean....how would we go about doing it?
Define _"former glory"_ . If you mean _"Carbon Neutral"_ like all the eco doomsayers suggest we should do then that was never a thing in the first place. No carbon = no plants or trees = no you or me. At least on Earth.@@ahriskof1
So we go and terraform a planet that won't sustain us as long as our current home, deal with all the issues that will try and make that happen. As well, we'll deal with the same mindset from some people who currently disregard all the science that we have, to try and make the earth a better place. The amount of financial commitment it will take to make this happen, could probably solve all of the Earth problems, including more education about what we are currently facing, for those who don't give a hoot about Earth's issues.
We don't get off this planet and set up elsewhere in the near future, we could all be fucked.... We MUST stretch out our space wings. We'll never be able to convince China to do the right thing for the planet, so give up on your perfect earth wishful thinking.
Again, the binary view. This or that. We are not that limited. We can and need to do both. In fact, both efforts can help and support each other. Remember how many benefits we have gained from the space program ranging from microwave ovens to Velcro. Let’s not be myopic.
Typically if a title of a show has a question in it the answer is “No.” However we COULD just barely terraform with today’s tech… although it would take nearly every one working together and all our resources to make it happen therefore the answer is, for now, no.
At least Venus has hips of oxygen. We can transport to Moon a lot of carbon dioxide and make oxigen and methane. But Mars has only problems - big distance, hostile environment, low gravitation... No, Moon and Venus more then enough for closest millenia.
Or... or we can just terraform Earth into the environment that we need it to be. Afterall, Earth is much more survivable for our species than Mars or Venus... and of course we all ready live here. I mean... it's where I keep all my stuff.
This is how you know the answer to the question "Can we terraform a planet with today's technology?" Is No. If we could, we would do it here first and we can't. So if you can't do it here, why do you think you can do it anywhere else where the physics will be the same, and the cost will be exponentially higher.
@@AmonTheWitch - With the proper tech, yes. Cost effective? Likely not unless we move to an economic model similar to Star Trek... and well... we are just too greedy.
Of course we need to look after this planet but the reason this is such a topic isn't about today, but in a distant future when the sun is projected to swell up as it loses Hydrogen and gains Helium, changing the "Goldilocks zone" of the Solar system, thus making Earth increasingly less hospitable for us.
@@Shadowespeon17 dude I am as forwarding thinking as anyone. We can't get behind physics that isn't string theory. We cant replicate what we were able to accomplish 55 years ago in space travel. We can't even agree on what a woman is. We are running towards AGI without one consideration to the impacts it can have. What you are talking about is billions and at the earliest hundreds of millions of years on the future. I say we spent some time figuring out how to make it another 100 before we start worrying about things that far down the line.
We can't even terraform Earth in terms of CO2 levels, temp, etc, which would be a 1000 times cheaper and easier than another terrestrial body. Baby steps.
What possibly could go wrong? 1) Knocking Venus out of current orbit on collision course with earth. 2) impacting the moon so harshly it cracks along an unknown fissure resulting a change in earth's orbit and rotation 3) Martian's don't concur and unleash an army of pestilence on earth. Agree with you. Leave well enough alone. As a civilization we are still a half millennium away from Kardashev Scale level 1. Don't think we will be transforming any planet soon. Unless of course we transform earth into a radioactive wasteland.
The Earth is not terra formed. A large part of Florida would be uninhabitable without air-conditioning. we can’t survive at higher latitudes without heated structures. Even the more habitable parts of our planet, our hostile to human life: volcanoes, we humans survived the earthquakes, tsunamis, landslides and mudslides. We humans survived the Little Ice Age and 100 years ago in United States and tour the heatwave so terrible that thousands of people died. The Antarctic station is an exercise in survivalism. First figure out what it would take to make the earth more conducive to human life, then multiply the problem on Mars and elsewhere.
Mars is too small, the Moon is also too small and rotates too slowly and Venus the planet rotates once a year if you can solve those problems it will work
Uh, Yes we can with current tech teraform the moon. A shade like for Venus, with mirrors to reflect Sunlight down in a simulation of the day cycle on Earth. And said shade to work with the earth's EM field to block out the solar wind. The Solar Wind is what strips the atmosphere out. On its own The Lunar Gravity is hight than the specific speed of the gassess in the air. But isn't strong enough against the solar wind. and Sunlight. but having said light coming from the mirrors in orbit? not that bad.
I think that would be a mistake. Look at the planets, ignore what we've been taught. Mercury is small, solid, Venus is gas heavy and hot as hell with no magnetic field, Earth is the sweet spot, Mars is cold and dead. Mercury is new, Venus is next youngest, hasn't settled in to spinning correctly to build a magnetic field, the sun is baking off the excess atmosphere, Earth is slowly dying, we're getting cooler in long term trends, this is fact, there will be another ice age and the Earth will lose atmosphere during the magnetic flips even if nothing else happens in the meantime. Mars is cold and dead, it had an atmosphere *and* magnetic field and now has virtually neither. Youngest planet is closest to the sun.
@@TanjirouKamado-fl6lj Yeah, if I'm right about the planets' ages then we'd be stunting Venus at this point, wouldn't be livable any time soon. Mars is too far gone.
Until we figure out how to keep the human body from being broken down during extended space travel and as well being able to handle the psychological ramifications of long term space isolation man ain’t going anywhere. Getting someone to Mars healthy and mentally sound is most improbable, living on Mars would be near impossible. All that given , the cost one way would be would be astronomical never mind the cost of multiple trips in order bring all the equipment necessary.
Hmmm, ok, that means SpaceX has about 9 months to: build a Starship that does not explode, invent a technology to refuel it in actual space (not in CGI space) and figure out how humans won‘t die during the trip (but maybe the last one is optional according to their mission plan which I don‘t know). Easy! 😂
"I'm gonna science the shit out of this!" Also: The number 250,000 gets ONE comma, not two. There's no comma after the 2. You put a comma after every three digits from the end.
Terraforming is not going to happen in our life time necessarily. Though, we can make the efforts to pave the way for future generations. So why not try? Even if it's not possible, it will expand our capabilities as humans. Just think about all of the technology we have now because of space exploration.
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I think genetically modified bacteria and other microorganisms would be our best option for transforming planets. They can have a massive effect, even on Venus if we could nake one that floats it could clear up that layer and replace it with things we need in the atmosphere or at least converted into something heavy enough to falls from the sky.
Why not start terraforming the world's deserts first, see how that goes.
i wasgoing comment this
@@Atentoamusicamedianews1 I was going to comment maybe try terraforming Chicago first!
Sadly, terraforming desserts can have consequences.
Like if u plant trees on Sahara, it might kill the Amazon forest.
So, we need to take care of that too. But yes, I agree, planting trees in Sahara should prove to be helpful in the long run because barren deserts are pretty useless and the life forms there are scarce
@@TanjirouKamado-fl6lj Deserts might seem useless to us, but they are not for the planet. They reflect quite a lot of the sun's rays back to space helping maintain the planet's temperature according to science studies.
@@mikeofalltrades3933 True, not to forget the species that have learned to make it their home. On the other hand, a few thousand years ago it was a tropical rainforest.. and in a few thousand more, it will be tropical again. And if Scientists are already preparing for Martian missions by training in the Atacama Desert, might as well try to see if they can terraform a little piece of it.
Restoring our Own earth and cleaning it up with the most effective tech and old fashioned ingenuity first, also How can Mars magnitosphere be restored? and How long? regenerating land is not that hard. Farmers and preppers know the positive growing practices. Composting would b key to restabilizing the soil and plants use CO2. This could help with protected environment to later be expanded into the real environment once again.
By 2024 and 2030? Cutting it kind of close right now.
If we can't fix our own planet, how can we fix any other?
I think you got it wrong....we messed with our own planet...now lets go and mess with another one :D
It's like the mechanic who doesn't fix his own car
What needs to be fixed according to you?
Our planet doesn't need fixing. Some of the people living on it however....
Humans are a galactic pathogen and our job is to spread across the universe.. looking back at our first planet is not our nature. Terraforming a dead dry Frozen planet into a livable planet for Earth life is the greatest statement that humanity can make to the cosmos
short answer no
Like Neil DeGrasse Tyson says, if we can terraform another planet, then we can terraform Earth back to normal, so let's do that! 👍
What do we mean by "normal"? Over the ages, Earth has varied from a giant iceball with oceans frozen from pole to pole to a steaming jungle world with no ice caps and temperature shotter than anything seen today.
We cannot do that, it is actually easier to terraform another planet because we don't have to worry about the baking period that would kill everyone on Earth if we did it here.
We have not yet made a greenhouse full of plants to support some people with air and food - and you can keep the doors and windows shut tight.
It still does not work. We still need to bring in fresh air and food from the outside.
Good luck with opening windows for getting fresh air and calling your food store to deliver food to you ;-)
It is still possible, but it needs so much cargo from Earth...
And you only can travel from Earth to Mars or back every two years - every 26 months. Because in the meantime, Mars is on the other side of the sun. It's way too far away between every 26 months...
This makes it way more complicated than living on the ISS. Yes, it's possible, but it requires lots of cargo...
The tech is evolving all the time, and things we once thought were impossible are gradually becoming more and more possible. Remember, there was a time when the thought of going to the moon, or creating space stations was the province of SF writers only. Settling Mars is a question of 'when' not 'if'. Sooner or later, it will happen. I'd love to see the start of it happening in my lifetime.
When , If ....but I think why is more important.
It is a fact that public support for these things is waning ....folks want to know why , hell I want to know why it's worth it.
I have yet to get a good answer.
I would to but sadly we won’t!! 😕
@@dennissmith7214 Unfortunately 😩!
@@FredrickWendroff-um2kn Pure curiosity is enough of a reason for me. Humans will explore space and live on other planets for the same reasons we left Africa thousands of years ago; why generations of explorers left their home countries to explore other parts of our planet at great risk of life and limb, in ships that were death traps in many ways and far less prepared than today’s astronauts are for venturing into our solar system and eventually beyond. It will happen. The foundations are being laid right now, so yes, it is when not if it is going to happen.
Let's review:
Mars has little to no atmosphere because it does not have a magnetosphere and we currently have zero actual technology for how to re-establish it or create an artificial one. Nor any way to produce the enormous amount of energy that would be required.
Martian soil is deadly and any crops grown in it would eventually kill anyone consuming them.
Mars has zero tectonic activity which science has claimed is required for a healthy planetary environment.
Mars has 1/3 the gravity of earth which we have no way to alter and we already know that Humans have significant health issues from prolonged exposure to low gravity.
Assuming that we will eventually figure out all of the above issues, actually terraforming the planet will take many thousands of years at best and require HUGE advances in technology and new sources for the massive amount of resources required.
So as far as the Title of this video is concerned, NO we cannot do any more than build limited bases that are GREATLY supported from Earth with current or even currently foreseeable technology.
Maybe we should be a little more concerned about the Planet we are currently on that for some reason we seem hellbent on making it non viable for Human life and if that doesn't work we will just kill each other 😢
“Terrafarming” other planets is based on comic book physics but that shouldn’t stop government bureaucrats from wasting trillions on planning or paying “experts “ to organize it.
it's absolutely possible? We're actively doing it to earth unintentionally, it's just not an instant thing, nor do i think mars will ever have a magneto sphere
@@AmonTheWitch Show me how you’re going to terraform the Mojave desert.Ill spot you an atmosphere,with reasonable climate control,nontoxic soil,even a little occasional moisture.You’ll enjoy a short trip to transport the equivalent components that would take 11/2 years of travel,Mars,and hundreds of billions in expenses.With all these benefits in place for free we’ll see how practical it might be on a cosmic scale,with all the associated expenses,toxic soil and virtually nonexistent atmosphere and travel distances that will challenge human physiology to the point of collapse.
always wondered why they just don’t revamp their agriculture processes instead
companion cropping would drastically decrease the amount of area used for farming
hunting wild moose and bison instead of ranching cattle on the land would also really help the mental health crisis
cheers
#indigenous
You do realize there is no physical law that prohibits terraforming right? Engineering and economical challenges? Yes, but it has little to nothing to do with physics
I reccomend the Kurzesagt videos on the subject
@@juimymary9951 Be specific,what exactly is your interest in this fantasy? How do you plan to benefit from it? What exactly are you willing to contribute to the effort?
Will they eventually bring animals like cow or chickens. Their manure could enhance the Martian soil. They can bring them as eggs or embryos and start them on Mars.Also what about things like earthworms or other beneficial ground bugs.
Hahahaha if they could bring cows to Mars to graze in its sands then what are we terraforming for? Cows in spacesuits... doing what exactly!?
Mass drivers on the poles of the moon could send lots of supplies to Mars on a regular basis. Yet, such infrastructure would need to be built on the moon.
Just like there was a space race we seem to have a moon race now between us and China because they want to stick their flag all over it.
Drag one of Jupiter's moons into mars orbit and job will be done.
We struggle to lift tin can rockets out of earths gravity well, pushing a moon out of Jupiter's is so far out of our capacity it would be like a caveman trying to build that rocket.
How so... which one, never mind how... How would putting one of Jupiter's moon into mars orbit improve mars... maybe I don't know as much as I thought I did
Wouldn't it just be easier to drag Mars into one of Jupiter's moons orbit instead? Absolutely insane rationale dude. Crazy.
Terra forming Venus requires new tech with complimentary results, such as multiple rocket engines based on acid phase reactions that can independently land and anchor, with a large cargo of alkaline salts that react with the acid atmosphere. These engines would not only neutralize the atmosphere, but gradually affect the planets rotation toward an ideal.
By the time the atmosphere is neutralized, the reaction would reduce and the salts would become neutral, but the rotation will have changed.
Massive scale, but anything would be. At least half the fuel is already there and impact would be compounded.
Finally, someone who thinks deeply
Short answer, No! not with current tech
Agree because it will at least decades or centuries worth of trial and error for developing, researching and perfecting the process.
Don't need any tech , of course there is no need to go anywhere.
We have and have had all the tech we need to have paradise right here , but we choose not to.
Like they say , wherever you go , there you are.
Well if it can't be done on Earth it certainly can't be done on Mars.
Why would we throw all those resources down a gravity well? There will be far more people on stations, its just not economically reasonable to dump valuable things in an impoverished market.
Lets try it on the earth first
@@thastinger345 Earth dosen't need Terra forming! Try to keep up? Humans are explorers and always have been, I'm so grateful that we have brave smart people to decide what we'll do ! I
so if we make the planet spin faster we solve globle warming It would affect temperature patterns and atmospheric circulation systems. With shorter days, the land surface would cool faster at night, while warming periods would be shorter. This could alter wind patterns, cloud formation, and precipitation distribution in different regions of the world.
We would need to be a type 2 civilization to achieve feats that grand.
And nothing would grow so we would starve
Man is not causing global warming. The planet is exiting an ice age due to the polar axis procession. The procession in the earth's axis naturally cycles it between ice ages.
It depends on wether these planets have a magnetic field and an atmosphere to keep in the gases to then allow the growth of trees and greenery to produce oxygen
Yes, to me, the first most biggest problem is lack of a magnetic field... I could see some kind of shielding thing (like a big ass umbrella thing, sitting in one of the Lagrange points) to help w/ radiation... but all the work of something like an oxygen factory would useless solar storm come by & just blow it away, could have domes
God ,is everybody crazy?! we'll all be dead long before that happens. we ARE'NT going anywhere
SpaceX by 2024?!?!? Huh? 😂
Yup! I thought I was hearing things incorrectly! 🤣 it would definitely be awesome if SpaceX and/or NASA was landing people on Mars this year but obviously this might be a bit off.. Maybe in a decade or two or three…..
I think Elon meant he's going to send Bill Gates's pregnant avatar there
Maybe the video is 10 years old and only reuploaded in 2024, who knows.
No chance today, possibly in the distant future, but the Earth is our home.
0:53 - "SpaceX by 2024"! It is 2024 now. lol. More like 2054.
NASA will most likely send humans to Mars using a SpaceX rocket in the 2030s. SpaceX's starship is going to change the world sooner than people think. Just look up the progress already made on that rocket and why it's so significant.
Imagine fighting wars on Earth over colonizing space objects.
All the people in the comments are very negativ. We as a species have already evolved very far, further then any know species (intelligently that is).
In the last 100 years we had more technical innovation then in the last 1000 years together.
We already have multiple robots on Mars and have been on the moon DECADES ago with old and relatively simple technology. Just thinking of the development in the next twenty years is making me excited. If there is a will there is a way.
I have no doubt that we will have started terraforming the moon in the next fifteen to twenty years.
Can't wait to see how far humanity will come in my lifetime.
Right there with you! Too many folks are too blinkered and shortsighted in terms of what is possible and what has already been accomplished. Humanity WILL explore space and we WILL settle Mars and elsewhere. At the same time we must clean up our home planet 🌍 and take better care of it. It is not and never has been a binary choice.
I don’t think you really know what you’re even wishing for. I remember growing up in the 70’s and 80’s thinking the same thing, and always hearing about how we’ll have flying cars by the year 2000. Well we almost live in a real life Jetsons (if you rember that cartoon), and it’s had a lot of negative consequences for humanity.
No negativity; just reality.
Great video and information !
Good news is we terraformed Mars. Bad news is we made the entire thing the Sahara desert.
I think the conversation of terraforming will be taken more serious by the year 2500/3000 and to be completed by 6000.
The real question is do we really want to colonize Venus? I see merit in mars because going farther away from the sun leaves us prepared for the expansion of the sun. I personally would only have specific mining colony's if even needed on Venus as we have to abandon it some day.
I mean we are good for billions of years. Lol
Good question and I think Mars is the best option if we consider how fast technology has advanced just in the last 50 years alone.
So say in a million years the human race would have likely found and settled on a habitable planet or possibly even constructed a Mass-habitation platform capable of moving through the cosmos picking up materials as it goes.
Is Titan more plausible for future colonization once we advance robotics and AI to a certain point? I can see it happen.
You've watched the movie,Titan, one too many times. Just kidding. 😂
@@frankiepeno4420 That movie was so ass ngl 😂😂
10:21 That's now how the comas work in 250,000 people... I lost all faith in this video when I saw that.
*commas, please don't say things like this when even you can't get it right. You don't look great for this 😂
How are you getting the water Venus would need?
You’d need water at the volume of the entire moon….
Can you do an analysis of how one would relocate Mars to the moon's current orbit and push the moon to orbit Venus and what the potential consequences of all these would be...
Humans Going to Mars in 2024??
My little grandson wants to know why Superman can't push Pluto into Venus and terraform it. I didn't have the heart to tell him that that was impossible. I think he's kind of thinking about all this terraforming stuff he seems to be getting it.
Mars is already home to the Adeptus Mechanicus, let them cook.
HELL YES! LMAO :D
I can envision it now. Finally the long process of terraforming Mars is complete however the humans who started it have not been seen for the past 250 million years.
Space X is not sending humans to mars this year lol
Ikr
Mars doesn’t have enough of a magnetic field for humans to live on the surface for any significant amount of time. No amount of tree planting will change that.
Other than Venus, the one problem that can't be solved is gravity, and if you want to have kids who grow up healthy, that has to be addressed.
Mars is cold because it's atmosphere isn't energy dense earth is warm because theres tons of energy in our atmosphere 😂
Shade for Venus could be reflected to Mars for double the effect
This is pure science fiction. There has to be a profitable business model to pay for all of this. I haven't seen one put forth.
Remember, your very best day on Mars isn't close to as good as your worst day on Earth.
No we can not if we ever could is another thing but it seems unlikely due to the different distances from the Sun of Venus and Mars.The Moon is the same distance as Earth but is probably too small to hold on to an atmosphere.Not to miss Mercury,a magnet field but rather too close to the Sun for comfort!
In a few million years, another civilization is going to be out there looking at Earth like "can we terraform this piece of crap.." so Mars was just like Earth great planet now it looks like a piece of crap so we'll just try to fix it again.. while earth prob dies and then we can be like hey lets terraform earth back... repeat repeat
terraform Mars, Venus, and the moon !??! We can’t even take good care of the one we have !!!
Mars will require us to fix the magnetic field first, we have absolutely no good way to do that currently. The soil contains perchlorates which are also found on earth, they are toxic and usually found in areas where there is little to no diversity in the soil. There is also very low pressure on Mars, making it very difficult for water to remain on the surface and not freeze or seep back into the soil. Lastly, we don't exactly know how much elements we have available and in what quantities to augment Mars's atmosphere. We can't colonize it at this point, it needs a few prerequisites first, the bar is set quite high but not theoretically impossible. I would describe the difficulty as if you were to get up from your couch right now, train, study and work hard to get an Olympic medal and actually achieve it.
This is a pipe dream at best. I love the optimism, but we can't even solve issues here.
We can do anything we set our minds to do
NASA can’t get back to the moon without the lander falling over after a 50 year absence. Perhaps we could terraform other planets but only through private ventures.
You're describing Blade Runner. No thanks, why not take care of the planet we have? We're nowhere near the tech needed to visit another planet (with meatbags inside), let alone colonize it.
You do know that lander was made and operated by Intuitive Machines (a private company) and not NASA right?
@@the_kombinator Why not do both?
@@ericlipps9459 If we can get humans to cooperate and share resources, that would be ideal. Currently we're sitting in a wasteful mess with three wars on our hands, what do you think the priority given the "human factor" should be?
24:01 humanity becoming the Borg confirmed
The first Martians may want to take fertilized, chicken or quail eggs. Once they hatch, they would provide food and fertilizer. Also, fig trees are hearty and resiliant. They should be considered.
Let's Teraform Earth, Just saying - We're talking of potentially Barren conditions any-why.
No matter how much of a good job you do to change (Terraform) the surface of another planet, the rays of the Sun will destroy everything unless you work out a way to create a magnetic field to protect it! 😉
Unfortunately we already know how to terraform a planet we’ve been terraforming the earth for more than 100 years….to the determent of our species
Mars
Beautiful place
Any place is beautiful until humans arrive
@@fordraven5884 🎶Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact, it's cold as hell🎶
Until humans can create and control micro-climates on a local scale, without screwing up the rest of the planet, removing deserts is impossible.
It would be easier to monkey with the climate of an entire planet and see how that goes.
As far as simulated gravity goes on Mars, how about magnetic suits where electro-magnet strength could be modified on various parts, say, the arms, relative to other parts.
The floor would be at a constant magnetic level.
Of course, this wouldn't apply outside, but it might be a good half-assed way to deal with it.
I can still imagine that people might get seasick since their inner organs, especially their inner ears wouldn't be affected without maybe some minor surgery.
The magnetic level would have to be pretty monstrous due to the short range of magnetic fields, and no iron could be nearby!!!
The premise of this is that we can't create a device that creates an artificial magnetic field that mimics our magnetic field on earth. I'm not aware of anyone working on any such device. If it did exist, it would be a game changer. We could terraform multiple planets in our solar system, not just mars. But the stuff out in the Kuiper belt. But, I mean....how would we go about doing it?
First, we need to make sure that we don't Venusform/Marsform our own planet.
Actually if we have the technology to terraform other planets we can restore our earth to its former glory
No problemo, that won't happen despite our best efforts.*
*But even then even just a slight variation in our environment could spell doom for us all
Define _"former glory"_ .
If you mean _"Carbon Neutral"_ like all the eco doomsayers suggest we should do then that was never a thing in the first place.
No carbon = no plants or trees = no you or me. At least on Earth.@@ahriskof1
So we go and terraform a planet that won't sustain us as long as our current home, deal with all the issues that will try and make that happen. As well, we'll deal with the same mindset from some people who currently disregard all the science that we have, to try and make the earth a better place. The amount of financial commitment it will take to make this happen, could probably solve all of the Earth problems, including more education about what we are currently facing, for those who don't give a hoot about Earth's issues.
You make a valid point.
We don't get off this planet and set up elsewhere in the near future, we could all be fucked.... We MUST stretch out our space wings. We'll never be able to convince China to do the right thing for the planet, so give up on your perfect earth wishful thinking.
Terraform it into Los Angeles. Then people will want to live there.
i think its better that we save our planet Earth instead of spending so much on research and going to a new planet...
Again, the binary view. This or that. We are not that limited. We can and need to do both. In fact, both efforts can help and support each other. Remember how many benefits we have gained from the space program ranging from microwave ovens to Velcro. Let’s not be myopic.
I'd argue it'd be better to reduce military spending than the funding for space exploration?
Typically if a title of a show has a question in it the answer is “No.”
However we COULD just barely terraform with today’s tech… although it would take nearly every one working together and all our resources to make it happen therefore the answer is, for now, no.
At least Venus has hips of oxygen. We can transport to Moon a lot of carbon dioxide and make oxigen and methane. But Mars has only problems - big distance, hostile environment, low gravitation... No, Moon and Venus more then enough for closest millenia.
Or... or we can just terraform Earth into the environment that we need it to be. Afterall, Earth is much more survivable for our species than Mars or Venus... and of course we all ready live here. I mean... it's where I keep all my stuff.
we can do all of those at once
This is how you know the answer to the question "Can we terraform a planet with today's technology?" Is No. If we could, we would do it here first and we can't. So if you can't do it here, why do you think you can do it anywhere else where the physics will be the same, and the cost will be exponentially higher.
@@AmonTheWitch - With the proper tech, yes. Cost effective? Likely not unless we move to an economic model similar to Star Trek... and well... we are just too greedy.
Of course we need to look after this planet but the reason this is such a topic isn't about today, but in a distant future when the sun is projected to swell up as it loses Hydrogen and gains Helium, changing the "Goldilocks zone" of the Solar system, thus making Earth increasingly less hospitable for us.
@@Shadowespeon17 dude I am as forwarding thinking as anyone. We can't get behind physics that isn't string theory. We cant replicate what we were able to accomplish 55 years ago in space travel. We can't even agree on what a woman is. We are running towards AGI without one consideration to the impacts it can have.
What you are talking about is billions and at the earliest hundreds of millions of years on the future.
I say we spent some time figuring out how to make it another 100 before we start worrying about things that far down the line.
We can't even terraform Earth in terms of CO2 levels, temp, etc, which would be a 1000 times cheaper and easier than another terrestrial body. Baby steps.
Most likely not
But we will try
" In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth..."
They already did it in 1986’ Aliens movie…👀.Planet terraforming 🍖 🦖
GMO Moss and lichen farming on South facing walls at the Equator deep in Valles Mar
Remember the old saying ? Leave well enough alone .😊
What possibly could go wrong? 1) Knocking Venus out of current orbit on collision course with earth. 2) impacting the moon so harshly it cracks along an unknown fissure resulting a change in earth's orbit and rotation 3) Martian's don't concur and unleash an army of pestilence on earth. Agree with you. Leave well enough alone. As a civilization we are still a half millennium away from Kardashev Scale level 1. Don't think we will be transforming any planet soon. Unless of course we transform earth into a radioactive wasteland.
In IT systems, you don't dev/test on your production environment. Just saying ....
Terraform Earth!
California and France first
The Earth is not terra formed. A large part of Florida would be uninhabitable without air-conditioning. we can’t survive at higher latitudes without heated structures. Even the more habitable parts of our planet, our hostile to human life: volcanoes, we humans survived the earthquakes, tsunamis, landslides and mudslides. We humans survived the Little Ice Age and 100 years ago in United States and tour the heatwave so terrible that thousands of people died. The Antarctic station is an exercise in survivalism.
First figure out what it would take to make the earth more conducive to human life, then multiply the problem on Mars and elsewhere.
The Martian got it right then with organic waste.
Speaking of the Soviets, they got to Venus but somehow couldn't get to the moon!!! Something is wrong here. No?
Mars is too small, the Moon is also too small and rotates too slowly and Venus the planet rotates once a year if you can solve those problems it will work
What’s the boiling point of water on Mars?
I just want a holodeck
Lollll SpaceX by 2024 huh
Uh, Yes we can with current tech teraform the moon. A shade like for Venus, with mirrors to reflect Sunlight down in a simulation of the day cycle on Earth.
And said shade to work with the earth's EM field to block out the solar wind.
The Solar Wind is what strips the atmosphere out. On its own The Lunar Gravity is hight than the specific speed of the gassess in the air. But isn't strong enough against the solar wind. and Sunlight. but having said light coming from the mirrors in orbit? not that bad.
Hmmm for Venus, why not combining the Hydrogen Approach with the Shading approach? It sounds like they would work out great hand in hand
I think that would be a mistake.
Look at the planets, ignore what we've been taught. Mercury is small, solid, Venus is gas heavy and hot as hell with no magnetic field, Earth is the sweet spot, Mars is cold and dead.
Mercury is new, Venus is next youngest, hasn't settled in to spinning correctly to build a magnetic field, the sun is baking off the excess atmosphere, Earth is slowly dying, we're getting cooler in long term trends, this is fact, there will be another ice age and the Earth will lose atmosphere during the magnetic flips even if nothing else happens in the meantime. Mars is cold and dead, it had an atmosphere *and* magnetic field and now has virtually neither.
Youngest planet is closest to the sun.
Yes, that's why we need artificial magnetic field technology
Not only for Terraforming other planets but also for Earth
@@TanjirouKamado-fl6lj Yeah, if I'm right about the planets' ages then we'd be stunting Venus at this point, wouldn't be livable any time soon.
Mars is too far gone.
Soils ? Hydroponics is a tested and proven tech
Venus needs a moon to terraform an same with mars needs a moon but mercury was Venus moon the time lost moon mercury it flip Venus roate backwards
push the smaller moon into mars around the volcano
0:53 "SpaceX plans to do so(send humans to Mars) by 2024." This video is 5 days old and already this outdated? Is it AI scripted?
Let's live in Antarctica first, see how that goes.. It would be much easier there
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Until we figure out how to keep the human body from being broken down during extended space travel and as well being able to handle the psychological ramifications of long term space isolation man ain’t going anywhere. Getting someone to Mars healthy and mentally sound is most improbable, living on Mars would be near impossible. All that given , the cost one way would be would be astronomical never mind the cost of multiple trips in order bring all the equipment necessary.
Hmmm, ok, that means SpaceX has about 9 months to: build a Starship that does not explode, invent a technology to refuel it in actual space (not in CGI space) and figure out how humans won‘t die during the trip (but maybe the last one is optional according to their mission plan which I don‘t know). Easy! 😂
First one now accomplished.... At least someone's making the necessary effort.
_"2,50,000"_ ? LOL
We can’t even stop global warming or pollution here on earth, terraforming another planet ridiculous.
Yeah right what a load of pie in the sky, no point what so ever
It seems impractical and expensive. If we would be able to terraform other planets, then why aren't we solving global warming?
Lol
"I'm gonna science the shit out of this!"
Also: The number 250,000 gets ONE comma, not two. There's no comma after the 2. You put a comma after every three digits from the end.
Spotted that too. I laughed :D
Venus, doubtful.
Next step is the MCRN space ships attacking earth , 😂😂😂.
Terraforming is not going to happen in our life time necessarily. Though, we can make the efforts to pave the way for future generations. So why not try? Even if it's not possible, it will expand our capabilities as humans. Just think about all of the technology we have now because of space exploration.
“Using the above methods”
Is this a plagiarized article read by a robot voice?
I guess anything is possible with enough time and effort, but it’s nothing that will happen in our lifetimes
the end result won't, but we can start sowing the seeds (maybe quite literally)
@@AmonTheWitch it's an impractical pipe dream