Crank Balancing

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • The who what when where and why of balancing a crankshaft
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  • @e4300
    @e4300 3 года назад +31

    Honestly, Steve is probably the perfect teacher in my mind. Just gets to the point, No unnecessary blah blah. I could learn very quickly from Steve.
    I have been in the automotive world for 40 years and never seen such forthright explanations, Steve I congratulate you.

    • @Dji00
      @Dji00 2 года назад

      Hate people who babble and babble wasting your time while their trying to tell you something that you must likely already know. It's an ego thing most of the time I'm pretty sure.

  • @hemifiedsixtyfour2813
    @hemifiedsixtyfour2813 3 года назад +28

    Thanks for taking the time out of your day to explain things like this Steve.

  • @JG-zb7om
    @JG-zb7om 3 года назад +26

    Great video Steve. I really enjoy the way you take a high-tech, math-heavy process and explain it in a way someone who’s never even seen a balance machine can understand. I would love to see more videos like this one.

  • @user-pe4xk7po8s
    @user-pe4xk7po8s Год назад

    Steve your shop is working professionally. But when you explain things simply how it works. Your explanation reaches all people’s knowledge levels. Thank you for your well reaching the informations

  • @skullhart
    @skullhart 2 года назад +3

    I used to balance jet engine rotating assemblies and this really brings back some good memories. In some instances we would actually introduce a known imbalance in centimeter grams, then spin the assembly. The computer would provide a solution set with PO1-P07 balance weights that would thread into the rear spinner cone. We would measure the imbalance in amplitude of mils (0.001") which is where the fan blade would oscillate off axis. Could even use the equipment to determine individual frequencies of components that ran off the accessory drive gearbox. If the imbalance was too great the engine would require a complete fan blade restack. What made this whole deal so challenging was it wasn't just the weight of a blade, it was how far from the center of the engine that weight was located. The further away from the center the weight was located, the more influence it possessed. Even though designed to be identical, every blade was never the same.

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer7848 3 года назад +16

    19👍's up Steve thanks again for taking us all to school today

    • @scottyjones27
      @scottyjones27 3 года назад +1

      Steve Morris Skool would hav been lots more fun than the skool i went to in the home town of KFC Corbin Kentucky

  • @BustedWalletGarage
    @BustedWalletGarage 3 года назад +65

    The way Steve explains things you get the notion that he may have had to deal with internet trolls once or twice

    • @stevemorrisracing
      @stevemorrisracing  3 года назад +57

      What!
      Trolls!!
      There are no trolls on the internet!

    • @SyTySpeedShop
      @SyTySpeedShop 3 года назад +3

      More like everyday I’m sure!

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 3 года назад +10

      When I first started listening and talking about Steve people on the internet did nothing but trash him. It used to piss me off because some people that didn't know better used to listen to the idiot trolls that used to kiss another builder's ass. Thankfully Steve got the last laugh and I'm glad he still ignores the haters and shares everything that he does.

    • @Matty.Hill_87
      @Matty.Hill_87 2 года назад +5

      Arm chair engine builders with their words of wisdom 😂😂

    • @slycarlo8747
      @slycarlo8747 2 года назад +1

      @@Matty.Hill_87 it’s crazy how many people will play make believe in RUclips comments. Especially when it comes to heavy equipment/tractor trailers, they’ll say some of the funniest stuff too. I had one guy try explaining why it’s hard for him to go from the low side the high side because apparently he could only flip the range lever while he was shifting and not while it was in gear. I’m assuming he thought that would change the gear because he saw a guy in a 13 or 18 splitting the gears on a video. Then I got guys in company trucks try telling me their autos are faster because they never “miss a shift” lol it’s the kind of stuff I used to think as a boy watching my dad drive his semi.

  • @RustyWells2
    @RustyWells2 3 года назад +11

    No one has done a video about this any were on the internet thank you Steve for doing this I've always wanted to see how they balance a crank.

  • @jiveturkey9993
    @jiveturkey9993 3 года назад +5

    That is way more involved than what I pictured in my mind.

  • @bkc1965
    @bkc1965 3 года назад +12

    One of the best, most clear, explanations of a technical process that I have ever experienced. Excellent job Steve, thanks for sharing this with us.

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 3 года назад +1

      if you cant explain a technical process in easy to understand language. you dont well understand the process. thats my trick to finding real experts. do they talk in common easily understood language or try and baffle you with lingo? bullshit artists rely on lingo.

    • @thomasrose6962
      @thomasrose6962 2 года назад +1

      I agree with ramcharger if you can’t explain 100% then you’re faking it

  • @privatedata665
    @privatedata665 2 года назад +1

    One of the best engine related videos .....ever

  • @davepotanko5514
    @davepotanko5514 2 года назад

    Everyone talks about balancing. Nice that you actually showed, how, why, and what not to sweat about.

  • @ThePulleys
    @ThePulleys 2 года назад +1

    That’s the best explanation I’ve ever heard for balancing a rotating assembly. Great job teaching us common folk Steve! 👍🏼

  • @number1trucker
    @number1trucker 2 года назад

    I just stumbled onto your site. I ALWAYS wondered how they balanced a crank shaft. Great video. I'm going to binge watch all your videos now.

  • @Stonr
    @Stonr 2 года назад +1

    Steve is here on RUclips giving a master class for free, so awesome man.

  • @douglasmayherjr.5733
    @douglasmayherjr.5733 2 года назад

    Great Video. I always wondered why the machine shop guys were in a bad mood, you answered my question. Thanks for the great explanation.

  • @davidbrown6193
    @davidbrown6193 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Steve 👍🏻👍🏻 great presentation, very clear and interesting! No wonder you're ' The Man' 💯🏁

  • @RestorationWatch
    @RestorationWatch 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Steve. That was everything I needed to know! Your a legend.

  • @Intellistan
    @Intellistan 2 года назад +1

    Steve.. man.. thank you. I'm sure you're aware, but these videos solid gold. Friggin' legend man.

  • @dolfan1318
    @dolfan1318 2 года назад +6

    @22:50 Steve explains what can happen if the Mallory metal is not installed in the side of the crank when adding weight during balancing. Unfortunately Billy from SRC learned that lesson the hard way when he put his Nova into the guardrail because his engine builder went the cheap/lazy route. Way to call it Steve! This is why you're the best!

    • @oldandboosted
      @oldandboosted 2 года назад

      Billy could have avoided the wreck and oil on the track by having a diaper on the car.

    • @dolfan1318
      @dolfan1318 2 года назад +1

      @@oldandboosted True. Bill Sr. said in his latest 'Old Man's Garage' video that he was picking up three diapers for his kids racecars.

    • @MJTAUTOMOTIVE
      @MJTAUTOMOTIVE 2 года назад +1

      @@oldandboosted . People Should run a engine catch tray with deep sides that bolts to chassis of the car. Engine diapers are one solution, but if oil is spilt or a oil pressure line is leaking it is way harder to diagnose because you can not seee the lower section of the engine. Also if they get soaked in engine oil they become a fire hazard. Check out Steve's latest video when al 8 connecting rods disintegrate on the engine from the Bosstmaster2 and it puts massive holes in the oil pan. The catch tray catches everything and does not oil down the track or put oil under the rear tires. Plus a engine diaper also makes the engine run hotter. It is worth while building a good quality engine catch pan.

    • @oldandboosted
      @oldandboosted 2 года назад

      @@MJTAUTOMOTIVE I agree but not every car can run a catch pan. Sometimes the engine oil pan hangs down below everything else. If you cannot run a catch pan, then you must run an engine diaper. I agree that catch pans would be better but an engine diaper is easier for most people. Steve Morris's car is basically a pro mod. It was built to accept a catch pan.

    • @MJTAUTOMOTIVE
      @MJTAUTOMOTIVE 2 года назад

      @@oldandboosted I agree that all vehicles are different. but a catch tray can be custom made to suit just about anything. even if it id only 3/4 of a inch from the oil pan, it is still a better idea than a diaper. Engine diapers are a pain to get to fit correctly. When Running that sort of horsepower the vehicle should be modified to make a catch pan fit. If you have a diaper and the engine lets go, you have to not only repair your engine but also replace the diaper. once they get oil soaked, you can never get the oil out of them. I had a vehicle in for a tune fitted with a diaper and it caught fire on the Dyno. The owner had a leak on a turbo feed line before h
      He bought in to me and said that he had cleaned and degreased the diaper and the engine bay. After a couple of low boost pulls i started to see a little bit of smoke. Once we stopped and shut the vehicle down the smoke coming from around the lower part of the engine just below the left hand turbo manifold, up it went. It was not big and we got it out very quick, it did not do any damage except burn a little paint and scorched the sheath on one of the battery cable wires. I think it might be just Me, but i do not like them. If that would of happened on a full pass a the track with a lot more heat, we would never know what would of happened. So in other words I manufacture and fit a lot of catch trays.
      OK rant over. Cheers.

  • @Limeayy
    @Limeayy 3 года назад +4

    This is what i love watching.

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 3 года назад +19

    I could listen to Steve Morris explaining stuff for hours

  • @DonziGT230
    @DonziGT230 2 года назад +1

    The likely reason that the temporary test weights show as being too light is because they were placed inboard of the counterweights instead of centered on them. The further in they are the less their weight will impact the end balance. If you wanted test weights that better simulated the effect of the mallory metal you could use magnets. If you place half on each side of the counterweight it'll better simulate weight placed in the counterweight.

  • @chaseholsonbake5503
    @chaseholsonbake5503 2 года назад

    This right here is what I love about Steve, he's a master and willing to share that knowledge...

  • @tonyking9235
    @tonyking9235 Год назад +1

    BEST ONE I HAVE EVER SEE THAT GOSE THOUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. THANKS

  • @WhiteManXRP
    @WhiteManXRP 3 года назад +2

    Absolutely amazing work Steve, thanks for the run down....bigtime clarification, and interesting

  • @SyTySpeedShop
    @SyTySpeedShop 3 года назад +3

    I thought I knew the whole process of balancing a crank, still learned and thanks for the videos Steve!

  • @adamspencer2515
    @adamspencer2515 3 года назад +2

    I will watch these videos every day
    I do a lot of balancing in my trade and I try to explain the same thing to people all the time.
    When your vibration levels reach a certain point you stop.it will never be zero,but it will be close enough

  • @fivepointeightnate
    @fivepointeightnate 2 года назад

    Wow, the best video I have seen about a full balance. Great job!

  • @jerrycoon3369
    @jerrycoon3369 3 года назад

    Just found your channel. Great video. I've been a machinist my whole life and a hotrodder. Most important thing is knowing what has to be perfect and all the variables that affect it.

  • @johnkennedy8452
    @johnkennedy8452 3 года назад

    Very cool video and Steve explains everything in layman's terms. Very educational . I now have a better understanding of why it's critical to have your crank shaft balanced . Thanks Steve for making this video.

  • @Techangler65
    @Techangler65 Год назад

    Amazing Steve what a highly detailed video. I enjoy your channel and all the explanations of how and why.
    So much detail in a great engine build.

  • @christopherwhite8877
    @christopherwhite8877 3 года назад +1

    Great explanation for everyone. Glad you went into not trying to be perfect.

  • @ernieshaw5660
    @ernieshaw5660 3 года назад

    Ran a SW machine 50+ years age, things have changed. thanks so much for this video.

  • @jonarmstrong6214
    @jonarmstrong6214 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video, I've been a tool and die maker for 34 yrs and it amazes me at how different our machines are. I would love to cross over into engine building.

  • @steveflor9942
    @steveflor9942 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic video, Steve
    I learned so.much.
    Thanks!

  • @Mike-xt2ot
    @Mike-xt2ot 3 года назад

    That is the best no bullshit explanation I ever heard regarding Bob weight. You sir have talent and experience that is shown with your results. No one can argue with proven results.

  • @wernerkeggenhoff2065
    @wernerkeggenhoff2065 Год назад

    what a great video Steve. Never seen it explained before step by step. Love it. Keep the videos coming

  • @jeeptk
    @jeeptk 2 года назад

    Awesome knowing what matters and what doesn’t. I give you tons of credit for educating the masses.

  • @bdjm8595
    @bdjm8595 Год назад

    I've always wondered how this is done, thanks for the clear explanation Steve!!!

  • @dallynsr
    @dallynsr 3 года назад +2

    Wow Steve Morris.
    That was awesome.

  • @zas5892
    @zas5892 2 года назад +1

    The nice thing about Steve is not really sarcastic either he just wants you to learn and understand and if you put sarcasm or anything else in there trying to joke around or belittle anyone it doesn't help it just nobody will learn that way I like the way Steve does it it's very informative perfect man I get a great understanding of all the stuff that's going on with these motors now I know I'm not a big block I'm a Volkswagen guy really like it though I understand

  • @keithhuckabee9859
    @keithhuckabee9859 Год назад

    I did this years back. Old strobe and analog gauge balance machine. I remember lifting Hemi cranks on and off all afternoon, no wonder my back hurts!

  • @RandysFiftySevenChevy
    @RandysFiftySevenChevy 2 года назад

    I get a lot of old race team spares and I see numbers written on everything, I finds notes made by balancers in boxes and it blows me away.. It must have taken them 10 times the time to do what todays computers do in milli seconds.
    Great Job on this Steve, you make a great Auto shop teacher wherever in the world the internal combustion engine survives in a couple years. lol 🙁

  • @johnbarker6900
    @johnbarker6900 2 года назад

    love this , i started with sbc 283 and 327 engines with rather primitive machine services available. 60s stuff. really like the machining available today. thank you for this excellent vid!

  • @russlivenspire7689
    @russlivenspire7689 3 года назад

    Almost got my panties in a bunch. In the 80's I worked for a company in NJ. and one of my jobs was engine balancing (brass bob weights) but you are right when the throws hit the oil and whatever splash back you get it can never be perfect. Cool machine you have! Thanks Steve.

  • @ryanhogan6509
    @ryanhogan6509 3 года назад

    The crank looked like it had been balanced once in the past., that’s kind of proof that things change, I’m sure most of the adjustments were for the connecting rods, but I think you nailed it when you said it’s just as much art as it is science.. great video Steve...

  • @kxdirtjumper
    @kxdirtjumper 3 года назад

    That was awesome, I knew some of it and the way it's explained in this video is really clearly explained 👍🏻

  • @Tommyd2059
    @Tommyd2059 2 года назад

    Thanks Steve for another great video. Always wondered what the process was to balance a crank.

  • @zachjones6691
    @zachjones6691 2 года назад

    Hey Steve you are doing a great job remember these days comon sense isn't comon people don't think before they talk love the content and love learning new stuff 👍

  • @numberpirate
    @numberpirate 2 года назад +1

    Pragmatism is one of the most commendable attributes.

  • @ThePeopleVerse
    @ThePeopleVerse 3 года назад

    I always knew about the drilling for weight loss but didn't quite know about the right way to add it back in.
    Cool info.
    Thanks

  • @tomislavzivkovic7106
    @tomislavzivkovic7106 2 года назад

    Thank you for sharing the expertise that takes lifetime to accumuluate

  • @terryenyart5838
    @terryenyart5838 Год назад

    Excellent video Steve! Thank you. Spot on!!

  • @davebooth7808
    @davebooth7808 2 года назад

    Thank for explaining that as I had always wondered how it was done!

  • @robertjohnson4784
    @robertjohnson4784 3 года назад

    Hey Steve I really appreciate all the videos Your explanation is spot on You are truly a Engine wizard you will always be my 1st choice On a engine build sorry about Tom Bailey that Really Sucks

  • @maxsdad538
    @maxsdad538 2 года назад +1

    Back in the 70's, we would just take our motors to our favorite speed shop (mine was M & M Speed Shop in Sacramento, where I was stationed) and have it "balanced and blueprinted" with a 3/4 cam tossed in for good measure. Never fully understood WHAT was done, just that my 1970 Chevelle's 427 ran like a raped ape after that.

  • @MichaelBrown-um8qc
    @MichaelBrown-um8qc 2 года назад

    Absolutely wonderful vidio & God Bless & Thank You for sharing & a " Great " Refresher course 🥂🏁

  • @harveynailbanger
    @harveynailbanger 3 года назад +1

    Makes way more sense than the "primary" and "secondary " balancing that i was taught...

  • @trrrewr
    @trrrewr 3 года назад +1

    Real-world smart > than book smart, every single time. Thanks Steve!

  • @rustyrodgarage2686
    @rustyrodgarage2686 Год назад

    I used to balance 1200 lb. Electric motor rotors all the way down to 5 lb. Fans.the theory you just explained it right on point.i was one of the perfectionist types that had to see just how perfect I could get them.to get anything to a perfect 0 g. Would take hours sometimes.in the end,it is not necessary to be perfect.the outside influences will affect balance.

  • @guillermodavila9397
    @guillermodavila9397 3 года назад +2

    Thanks learn something today at steve tech, awesome teacher!!

  • @anthonyaloi8814
    @anthonyaloi8814 2 года назад

    Wow,very educational!!! Thank you for your time,I know you are a very busy man.

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname 2 года назад

    My 1969 Kiekhaefer 482's (stroked 427 tall block offshore race motors) use solid flywheels like you would use for a clutch and they were balanced with the rest of the stuff, including the crank's balancer. Lot's of holes all over the place. I actually gave them a neutral 427 flywheel and a 454's with the big counterweight. They used the 454's so they wouldn't have to add weight. That heavy metal is expensive.

  • @scottheywood6502
    @scottheywood6502 3 года назад

    Great review of the process! Thanks for keeping it real. I suspect this process gets faster the more you do it. I know it's only 500 rpm but I'm a bit surprised there isn't a safety shield. :-O

  • @edwinlehman2841
    @edwinlehman2841 Год назад

    You really impressed me awesome you are one smart guy thanks again one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time

  • @garnellwalls3721
    @garnellwalls3721 2 года назад

    Great video Steve , Thank you.

  • @Canadianchucknorris69
    @Canadianchucknorris69 2 года назад

    Very good info thanks for sharing Steve!

  • @stacy6014
    @stacy6014 3 года назад

    It is ironic me watching these videos now. You built a engine for my buddies late model dirt car years ago. Just realized who you were.
    Nice work on the videos also.
    Joe

  • @tch632
    @tch632 3 года назад

    Another great vid Steve!!👍

  • @ldtenenoff
    @ldtenenoff 3 года назад

    Super video video steve this should help so many young learners comin into this great sport how and why. u cant make enough of these type of vids thats for sure also camera guy did good too thanku for ur time really hated to the icecream machine catch fire at the gators must of been time fer new paint lol

  • @mikeeagle2653
    @mikeeagle2653 3 года назад +2

    Great video 👍🏻🙌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Blownxw351
    @Blownxw351 2 года назад

    That was really well explained Steve thanks

  • @foghornleghorn8536
    @foghornleghorn8536 3 года назад

    Another excellent video. Thank you.

  • @calvinwilson1051
    @calvinwilson1051 3 года назад +2

    Hi Steve l really enjoyed this video

  • @farmbilt
    @farmbilt 2 года назад

    I wish I had your patience and wisdom.

  • @robertclymer6948
    @robertclymer6948 3 года назад

    Even at Borg Warner, our OEM Rods were within 3 grams. We made them for all the car companies, and after market as well, like Howard's.

  • @LujinCustom
    @LujinCustom Год назад

    Great video Steve. Can you put out a video that gets stuck in a little deeper? Lightening the crank, knife-edging, drilling out journals, and then balancing the crank?
    Also, maybe a general ballpark what the average engine or performance shop charges for the various operations. 👍

  • @toddgreenlee9406
    @toddgreenlee9406 2 года назад

    Great educational video. Thank you.

  • @badralnimr8063
    @badralnimr8063 3 года назад +1

    Looking handsome and young Steve. Have a good day.

  • @JohnRoberts71
    @JohnRoberts71 3 года назад

    Great content thanks for sharing, very informative

  • @harryjohnson2
    @harryjohnson2 2 года назад

    Fantastic video!

  • @biggerbehindthetrigger2814
    @biggerbehindthetrigger2814 2 года назад

    I would love to have you build a big block hemi for me. I'm building a 1965 Plymouth Valiant wagon for street and strip so I can do race week next year. I'm going to build up a slant 6 for the meantime. I love the 225 slant 6. It's such a fun and easy motor to build and inexpensive too. It can be unique on every way. I can use the motor in my daily driver when I'm ready for the big hemi. It's a win win for everyone. I could put a turbo on the slant 6. How cool is that. Look out form me in the future. Hell yeah brother 🇺🇸💪

  • @juanmangerita
    @juanmangerita 2 года назад

    Great video 🏁

  • @bigmuz_pilot
    @bigmuz_pilot 3 года назад +2

    This is great, thanks man.

  • @eldanel19891
    @eldanel19891 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for the video.

  • @badhombre8383
    @badhombre8383 3 года назад

    I’m new to your channel but man love the content Steve keep it going 👊👊

  • @jaredjohnson3043
    @jaredjohnson3043 3 года назад +1

    Great video Steve, I've always wondered how crankshafts were balanced. What's your tolerance of out of balance weight where you'll actually machine the crankshaft versus just leaving it alone? Is it dependent on the application of the engine? Thank you for all your time and energy you put into making videos for us gearhead laymen!

  • @marktiitto7616
    @marktiitto7616 2 года назад

    Always run old iron block BBC with big lift roller cams . Shifted bout 7500 Best I ever got out of her low 10 s 2700 lbs Ain't nothing better than building your own motors Didn't have the $ to totally blueprint the whole deal Love watching ya build serious HP . Just an old wrencher.

  • @Backyard_hunting
    @Backyard_hunting 2 года назад

    Amazing! Thanks Steve

  • @MrChillaxin420
    @MrChillaxin420 2 года назад

    Billy from SRC (Street Racing Channel) Just had a piece of mallory sling through the oil pan exactly like you just said. Oiled down the track and sent him into the left lane wall from the right lane. The motor builder I think "Box" was who built the engine but the crank was bored out and mallory welded in. Go to SRC channel or The Old Mans Garage on YT and check it out.

  • @itsverygreen532
    @itsverygreen532 2 года назад

    You would be surprised just how much some flywheels and clutch covers are out! When you get a chance, spin up a crank and get it balanced, then add the flywheel and see how much it trows it out ... then add the clutch cover and see how it goes ... the guy who did some tuning for me reckoned some of the most expensive clutch units where the furthest out!!

  • @FoxRob93
    @FoxRob93 3 года назад

    Great video and explaination

  • @dannymiler3200
    @dannymiler3200 3 года назад

    He is great ! He speaks so little guy can understand!!!

  • @mr.Bruutt
    @mr.Bruutt 2 года назад

    Good video steve, learned a lot.
    Thanks a lot,

  • @chestercopperpot3793
    @chestercopperpot3793 2 года назад

    Really interesting, thanks for sharing!

  • @karlx-1
    @karlx-1 Год назад +1

    I learned so much today!

  • @peterhatkewitz9956
    @peterhatkewitz9956 3 года назад +1

    Also awesome videos

  • @Jvcomet
    @Jvcomet 2 года назад

    Great explanation , thanks.

  • @tomuchfunwithgas846
    @tomuchfunwithgas846 3 года назад

    Theory meets the real world again. Real world for the win. Thanks Steve.