@@Sarg3eI haven’t listened yet but Aches is ALWAYS way more professional and rational on this but way more trolly on The Flank. I’m assuming this will be no different. He loves trolling BenJ.
Bit of an old question but Marky B how crazy was it to jump in for that match last year on LAN? Especially when everyone was so hype seeing you play and getting that first kill and everyone erupted? Also I see Chris and Pat cop alot of hate online but I actually think you guys bring a whole new level of thought to the game, especially Pat because "He's never wrong.....Just early"
Once weekend 3’s matches happen, can you guys take the bottom 4 and try and make “winnable” teams out of them? Whether it be swapping within the existing 4 squads or dipping into known challenger players? That’d be cool! Love the show!
Do you think opening up the GA/ban list to allow more weapons/equipment/perks would be beneficial at making the league more competitive due to multiple metas or would the top teams just get even better?
Question: does the faze trio actually become the faze trio without Alec? I think that after he got dropped the role he played for them was extremely undervalued and was looked at as easily replaceable. Them finding no great success and looking uncomfortable throughout mw2 showed otherwise. Those are my thoughts interested in everyone else’s.
The fuck are you talking about do you not remember vanguard? Arcitys fucking sucked so they dropped him. He was also absolutely horrendous last year and he is 100% the worst player on the Seattle roster and I’d argue he’s the worst player in the league rn besides a couple rookies. Simp cellium and abezy have always been the faze trio and always will be even when arcitys was on the roster. He was just their fourth at the time. Same if they win w drazah this year.
Hypocrites!!!! Early in the video you say how you had to call out OpTic for the way they played last week in their first match against the defending champs. “We would call out any team that did that” 🤣 Pat’s favorite team to be a simp for gets 3-0’d by Boston and everyone says I’m not worried about Toronto. We get it, just say it next time. Talking about OG whether you actually believe what you’re saying or not gets views and stirs controversy. Only reason Pat has a job on these shows. Adds nothing of value other than to bash on things he doesn’t like.
OpTic lose G5 R11 to the former WORLD CHAMPS and it's "Major Flaws". Ultra get body bagged by BOSTON and it's "ehh they faltered a little bit" Lmao I'm not even an OpTic fan like that but damn.
Why do people say the Atlanta FaZe trio is the best trio of all time when the coL trio (aches, Crim, Teep) and OpTic trio (Scump, Formal, Crim) were much more dominant? The FaZe trio has won 7 events (4 LANs), they’ve won 26% of the events they’ve attended, reached the grand finals at 67% of the events they attended, but they’ve only won 39% of the grand finals they’ve been in. Compare that to OpTic who won 18 events, won 50% of the events they attended, reached the grand finals at 68% of the events they attended, and won 75% of the grand finals they were in. Then coL who won 14 events, won 55% of the events they attended, reached the grand finals at 68% of the events they attended, and won 82% of the grand finals they were in.
I mean its all relative to the era really. You cant compare events, teams, the pro scene from 10 years ago to today it's a night and day difference. All 3 squads are the best trio during their time but i do think people find it more impressive that the Atlanta trio have an average placing of 3rd in the CDL era due to how much higher the ceiling is for pro talent now.
Hot take. Swapping Sib for Priestahh would improve both rosters. Even with NYSL’s team chemistry re-adding Priestahh would allow Kismet to fly around. Let Priestahh soak the hill and do the dirty work. And Boston just needs slaying which sib can provide
This is capitalism. This is America. The behavior of these massive corporations is encouraged by our capitalist incentives. It sucks, but instead of criticizing the real issue, we criticize the individual companies operating/succeeding within it. At least marky b was being honest abt being a half ass. It’s hard to criticize the model because you all have also thrived because of it. You just criticize the people that are above you because of you, (aka your bosses.) get real. Until you stop bolstering activision, you’re with them. If anything is to change the flank and breakdown both need to strike. And let the fans know that’s what they’re doing.
Ghosty is gonna get dropped for his attitude and Octane might get called back in, I'm only half joking. He's good but overrated and he's absolutely not good enough to have the attitude that he does. He acts like Scrappy but can't drop a 1.0. Tbh though all the teams outside of the t4 are actually fucked, this league is not that competitive anymore. The difference between last year is you had 6 teams with s tier talent, Seattle and LAT dropped out of the race and now it's just 4 teams.
Pred is going to win mvp, hydra is amazing, but I do think pred is better. And now that pred actually has talent around him. We're really gonna see him blossom and take over hydra for the #1 spot
QUESTION: Was Cammy cheating in cold war with something like Sound eq or what??? He was the closest talent to simp that year and for 3 years straight he has been non existent. We gotta start questioning what was going on. I figured since we got 150hp back hed be back. But hes the same cammy as of late.
Considering treyarch made that cod and are the only good developers that actually care about cod and comp cod I can see why Cammy was so good, everything made sense. You go to these Activision games and the spawns etc make 0 sense
Simp was ranked as a top 5 SMG in MW2 by Breaking Point, but statistically he had the 9th highest KD of all subs, the 13th highest KPM of all subs, the 7th highest HP KD of all subs, 12th highest HP kills per map of all subs, 12th highest average first bloods per map of all subs, 13th highest control KD of all subs, 18th highest control kills per map of all subs, and 13th highest kills per respawn of all subs. The only stats he had in the top 5 were SND KD, control captures per map, SND kills per map, and SND plants per map. Can you guys give an expert perspective of why Simp was considered a top 5 sub (in MW2) despite having average or even below average stats across every field? I understand not everything is about stats, but in that case why was Hicksy not considered a top 5 SMG when he completely changed Ultra around and led them to a championship. Statistically Simp was worse than Hydra, Pred, AbeZy, Shotzzy, Kismet, Envoy, Nero, and Afro.
Yo Chris point on why a team should be affiliated to a city? If you check all football teams around the world are affiliated to cities, you can have 3 or more teams that are affiliated to the city Madrid (Real Madrid, Atlético Madrid, Rayo Vayecano, etc) just because optic has Texas doesn’t mean anyone else can have the same state or city in their team. Let the better org win with their management and marketing of said team
The American mentality of franchise and pay millions to join the league is outdated. Football teams can form and represent a city and participate in the league if they qualified, just like before CDL existed. Let the orgs stamp whatever city they would like to represent, no need to pay millions for no reason
Serious question... Do you guy believe that the team dominancy aspect of Call of Duty is even somewhat close to older cods? You can answer the question first obviously and then read the bottom if you want. Sorry if it's too much... I've just been wanting to say this for so long lol. Hot Take: Take Cold War for example. If you were good you were good... You would see somewhat "close" games here and there but there wasn't any weird events where Top 4 teams were just getting slammed unless they had the worst series of their lives. All and all I love OpTic and FaZe but I personally believe Fazes downs were only caused due to inconsistent, random timing, and overly complicated games. They would've dominated dumpster juice games like Vanguard and Cold War had the games made sense you feel me.
@aches I know you have feelings about Shottzy and his “superstar” ability. Given the current make up of the team, how do you see his role in particular changing? I feel he could fill the role that Karma did in the dynasty team. Interested to hear your thoughts.
Mr. Slaya, I have a narrative to purpose. We’ve all despised the sound EQ merchants such as the Boston Breach last year. Cammy has not been “Cold War Cammy” for years and you got to think…Toronto Ultra in Cold War were one of the few teams to know about sound EQ. Fraudulent?
Question for the podcast I’m curious pre cdl was the am scene always this shit as someone who was gonna try and start playing challengers for the first time it was a shit experience. No one wants to practice and chalk things up if they don’t see instant success so it feel’s impossible to try and get your name out there when it’s so hard to find actual teammates. I had a dude I was talking to for months just straight ghost me because he doesn’t like me? 😂😂 I just want to know if the am scene has always been hell because idk how I’m supposed to get my name out there going to college and working besides ranked play because you can bet a solid four who wants to practice and get better don’t exist.
I swear why does all these old pros think they are above the rights of a deal with youtube and can do what they want and above it all and they are owed for their time. Wtf yea yall helped build it but cdl is what gave the opportunity in the first place. I love optic but they need to repect youtube and their community more than they. Do and stop shitting on all of youtube and just give it an opportunity. I dont use twitch and it rubs me the wrong way how they approached the whole thing and the stuff they were saying while asking for members smh
If youre starting a team, and cant have anyone on the top 4 teams currently, out of those pool of players including challengers if you want, who are you putting together that you think can legitimately compete and steal a major? Or do you think the talent just isnt there for that to be possible?
Thieves will come good if i were them i wouldnt go anywhere near a roster change pat just says it 4 the sake of it 4 matches aint a good enough sample 2 say, yeah roster change.
What major do you guys think be the best? I personally think if the heretics hype keeps up then miami could be a throwback to a European event atmosphere
Do you think these two guns will Be the meta all season long? Or is it early enough to add a different one? I’d love to see something else or even a third gun
Can we actually deep this, absolute randoms like Courage were getting offered big money to do watch parties, meanwhile dougs saying Zooma and Seth should be paying Activision a weekly licensing fee to do a watch party because all they do is sit on their couch and make free money 😂 actually insane lmfao
Do you think that Atlanta Faze has botched their opportunity to be solidified as a dynasty? Coming off of MW and CW all they had to do was win some events and look dominant as they had before but that didn’t happen. Now that the top teams have seemingly caught up talent wise, it looks to me that the opportunity for a faze dynasty or any dynasty to form for that matter has disappeared perhaps forever. Where do you guys stand on Faze as a dynasty and do you think in the current talent of the top teams is so much that there won’t really be an opportunity for a dynasty ever again?
Seattle has looked great so far. Do you think they might do a roster move for more slaying? This besides ingame decision making will hold them back imo...I would do temp for Alec or find a real smg and let abuzzah shine as a main Ar his natural role...both options drop Alec.
This podcast is great because it might not be the most flashy CoD podcast but it’s definitely the most honest and insightful of all
lol, Pat always has an agenda. “Honest”😂
@@Sarg3eyeah but it's not as bad and obvious as his flank agenda lmao
@@Sarg3eI haven’t listened yet but Aches is ALWAYS way more professional and rational on this but way more trolly on The Flank. I’m assuming this will be no different. He loves trolling BenJ.
@@Ciervo78that's what makes each podcast unique. You get 2 sides of aches from each podcast which is both fun to watch and listen.
Love Aches’ alter ego for Dexerto! Insightful & brings up/makes good points. I think I gotta call him Snaches anytime he’s on the Flank 😂
Aches’ alter ego, Pat, always shows out for the reverse sweep 😂
Its like the NBA punishing lebron james UNHEARD OF
Almost 400 viewers and ONLY 40 likes?!? Come on people, show your support!
That’s a good ratio, being 1:10.
LAT has no chemistry 😂😂 idk why teams keep giving cammy another chance. he's living off his CW potential
You guys should do a tier list before major 1 ! Love the vids keep up to good work .
You guys for or against snipers being used in SnD?
If visas wasn’t an issue, do you think Nastie can replace Purj or GodRx? He has good pace and definitely can produce kills when needed
Bro nastie already had his shot in the league it's time to give someone else a shot imo
Is the new host streaming out of his closet? Interesting
Bit of an old question but Marky B how crazy was it to jump in for that match last year on LAN? Especially when everyone was so hype seeing you play and getting that first kill and everyone erupted?
Also I see Chris and Pat cop alot of hate online but I actually think you guys bring a whole new level of thought to the game, especially Pat because "He's never wrong.....Just early"
How is he comparing priestahh to hiksy pdawggg is so much more consistent and better???
Once weekend 3’s matches happen, can you guys take the bottom 4 and try and make “winnable” teams out of them? Whether it be swapping within the existing 4 squads or dipping into known challenger players? That’d be cool! Love the show!
Do you think opening up the GA/ban list to allow more weapons/equipment/perks would be beneficial at making the league more competitive due to multiple metas or would the top teams just get even better?
So question for Pat.
You and Haggy gotta 1v1. You pick the map and Chris picks the weapon. Who’s winning ?
Door dash ?
Chris “dip into challengers” Duarte and Pat “Scump slayer” price are the goats
This could be a hot take but I think if ravens were to drop godrx and reaal and pick up temp and asim they would be a top 6 team.
Question: does the faze trio actually become the faze trio without Alec?
I think that after he got dropped the role he played for them was extremely undervalued and was looked at as easily replaceable. Them finding no great success and looking uncomfortable throughout mw2 showed otherwise. Those are my thoughts interested in everyone else’s.
The fuck are you talking about do you not remember vanguard? Arcitys fucking sucked so they dropped him. He was also absolutely horrendous last year and he is 100% the worst player on the Seattle roster and I’d argue he’s the worst player in the league rn besides a couple rookies. Simp cellium and abezy have always been the faze trio and always will be even when arcitys was on the roster. He was just their fourth at the time. Same if they win w drazah this year.
Alec was a big part of their success imo
Hypocrites!!!! Early in the video you say how you had to call out OpTic for the way they played last week in their first match against the defending champs. “We would call out any team that did that” 🤣 Pat’s favorite team to be a simp for gets 3-0’d by Boston and everyone says I’m not worried about Toronto. We get it, just say it next time. Talking about OG whether you actually believe what you’re saying or not gets views and stirs controversy. Only reason Pat has a job on these shows. Adds nothing of value other than to bash on things he doesn’t like.
Also the fact that Faze has beat 2 teams that have 1 win......and Optic won just as easily as Faze did against Seattle
OpTic lose G5 R11 to the former WORLD CHAMPS and it's "Major Flaws". Ultra get body bagged by BOSTON and it's "ehh they faltered a little bit" Lmao I'm not even an OpTic fan like that but damn.
Why do people say the Atlanta FaZe trio is the best trio of all time when the coL trio (aches, Crim, Teep) and OpTic trio (Scump, Formal, Crim) were much more dominant?
The FaZe trio has won 7 events (4 LANs), they’ve won 26% of the events they’ve attended, reached the grand finals at 67% of the events they attended, but they’ve only won 39% of the grand finals they’ve been in.
Compare that to OpTic who won 18 events, won 50% of the events they attended, reached the grand finals at 68% of the events they attended, and won 75% of the grand finals they were in.
Then coL who won 14 events, won 55% of the events they attended, reached the grand finals at 68% of the events they attended, and won 82% of the grand finals they were in.
I mean its all relative to the era really. You cant compare events, teams, the pro scene from 10 years ago to today it's a night and day difference. All 3 squads are the best trio during their time but i do think people find it more impressive that the Atlanta trio have an average placing of 3rd in the CDL era due to how much higher the ceiling is for pro talent now.
Scump and optic ego challing a billion dollar company was hilarious. Shut his ass down so quick 😂
Man said ego challing 😂. Not everything can be explained using cod terms lil sis x
@@alextv293 You’re trippin. It makes perfect sense for this scenario and he’s not the first person I’ve seen say it either 🤷🏽♂️
@@alextv293no shit Sherlock, unfortunately for you it makes perfect sense here. stop being an emotional optic fan scump don’t care about you😂
Hot take. Swapping Sib for Priestahh would improve both rosters. Even with NYSL’s team chemistry re-adding Priestahh would allow Kismet to fly around. Let Priestahh soak the hill and do the dirty work. And Boston just needs slaying which sib can provide
This is capitalism. This is America. The behavior of these massive corporations is encouraged by our capitalist incentives. It sucks, but instead of criticizing the real issue, we criticize the individual companies operating/succeeding within it. At least marky b was being honest abt being a half ass. It’s hard to criticize the model because you all have also thrived because of it. You just criticize the people that are above you because of you, (aka your bosses.) get real. Until you stop bolstering activision, you’re with them. If anything is to change the flank and breakdown both need to strike. And let the fans know that’s what they’re doing.
Ghosty is gonna get dropped for his attitude and Octane might get called back in, I'm only half joking. He's good but overrated and he's absolutely not good enough to have the attitude that he does. He acts like Scrappy but can't drop a 1.0. Tbh though all the teams outside of the t4 are actually fucked, this league is not that competitive anymore. The difference between last year is you had 6 teams with s tier talent, Seattle and LAT dropped out of the race and now it's just 4 teams.
Pred is going to win mvp, hydra is amazing, but I do think pred is better. And now that pred actually has talent around him. We're really gonna see him blossom and take over hydra for the #1 spot
QUESTION: Was Cammy cheating in cold war with something like Sound eq or what??? He was the closest talent to simp that year and for 3 years straight he has been non existent. We gotta start questioning what was going on. I figured since we got 150hp back hed be back. But hes the same cammy as of late.
Considering treyarch made that cod and are the only good developers that actually care about cod and comp cod I can see why Cammy was so good, everything made sense. You go to these Activision games and the spawns etc make 0 sense
Its online cod anything can happen these guys (pat & chris) are too quick to judge.
I personally love the teams representing states. Shoutout NYSL
I think where Dan ghosty is a new player the veteran players have a hard time trusting/listening to dan
What are the chances NYSL go back to back world champs ?
His accent is strong as hell lol but I understood every word
Simp was ranked as a top 5 SMG in MW2 by Breaking Point, but statistically he had the 9th highest KD of all subs, the 13th highest KPM of all subs, the 7th highest HP KD of all subs, 12th highest HP kills per map of all subs, 12th highest average first bloods per map of all subs, 13th highest control KD of all subs, 18th highest control kills per map of all subs, and 13th highest kills per respawn of all subs. The only stats he had in the top 5 were SND KD, control captures per map, SND kills per map, and SND plants per map.
Can you guys give an expert perspective of why Simp was considered a top 5 sub (in MW2) despite having average or even below average stats across every field? I understand not everything is about stats, but in that case why was Hicksy not considered a top 5 SMG when he completely changed Ultra around and led them to a championship. Statistically Simp was worse than Hydra, Pred, AbeZy, Shotzzy, Kismet, Envoy, Nero, and Afro.
I miss the other host from last year, Marky b is kinda boring
Yo Chris point on why a team should be affiliated to a city? If you check all football teams around the world are affiliated to cities, you can have 3 or more teams that are affiliated to the city Madrid (Real Madrid, Atlético Madrid, Rayo Vayecano, etc) just because optic has Texas doesn’t mean anyone else can have the same state or city in their team. Let the better org win with their management and marketing of said team
The American mentality of franchise and pay millions to join the league is outdated. Football teams can form and represent a city and participate in the league if they qualified, just like before CDL existed. Let the orgs stamp whatever city they would like to represent, no need to pay millions for no reason
Love this pod, miss enable on it though!!
Thoughts on this new optics team work looking so much better then last years
Kenny effect
Serious question... Do you guy believe that the team dominancy aspect of Call of Duty is even somewhat close to older cods? You can answer the question first obviously and then read the bottom if you want. Sorry if it's too much... I've just been wanting to say this for so long lol.
Hot Take: Take Cold War for example. If you were good you were good... You would see somewhat "close" games here and there but there wasn't any weird events where Top 4 teams were just getting slammed unless they had the worst series of their lives. All and all I love OpTic and FaZe but I personally believe Fazes downs were only caused due to inconsistent, random timing, and overly complicated games. They would've dominated dumpster juice games like Vanguard and Cold War had the games made sense you feel me.
@aches I know you have feelings about Shottzy and his “superstar” ability. Given the current make up of the team, how do you see his role in particular changing? I feel he could fill the role that Karma did in the dynasty team. Interested to hear your thoughts.
Mr. Slaya, I have a narrative to purpose. We’ve all despised the sound EQ merchants such as the Boston Breach last year. Cammy has not been “Cold War Cammy” for years and you got to think…Toronto Ultra in Cold War were one of the few teams to know about sound EQ. Fraudulent?
Who wins in a double elim tournament with only top 4 teams? Top 4 teams can be placed in any positions 1-4, New York, Optic, Faze, Toronto??
Question for the podcast I’m curious pre cdl was the am scene always this shit as someone who was gonna try and start playing challengers for the first time it was a shit experience. No one wants to practice and chalk things up if they don’t see instant success so it feel’s impossible to try and get your name out there when it’s so hard to find actual teammates. I had a dude I was talking to for months just straight ghost me because he doesn’t like me? 😂😂 I just want to know if the am scene has always been hell because idk how I’m supposed to get my name out there going to college and working besides ranked play because you can bet a solid four who wants to practice and get better don’t exist.
I swear why does all these old pros think they are above the rights of a deal with youtube and can do what they want and above it all and they are owed for their time. Wtf yea yall helped build it but cdl is what gave the opportunity in the first place. I love optic but they need to repect youtube and their community more than they. Do and stop shitting on all of youtube and just give it an opportunity. I dont use twitch and it rubs me the wrong way how they approached the whole thing and the stuff they were saying while asking for members smh
Rank the top 5 cdl player ever ?
If youre starting a team, and cant have anyone on the top 4 teams currently, out of those pool of players including challengers if you want, who are you putting together that you think can legitimately compete and steal a major? Or do you think the talent just isnt there for that to be possible?
Wait what Seth not getting his way?…
Ballsy move to piss off optic and faze fans simultaneously they really don't give a fuck about fixing the league
Never knew Mark was Scottish haha good to see a felow Scotsmans!
Another great video geniunely think Pat should be a commentator for the cdl
Put MARKYB’s challenger team in place of the LAT! Way better team
Love markyB on this
Thieves will come good if i were them i wouldnt go anywhere near a roster change pat just says it 4 the sake of it 4 matches aint a good enough sample 2 say, yeah roster change.
Contracts matter. If you people understood business at all then this discussion would not be necessary.
Yo can you guys add an NBA segment where pat talks about the lakers? 😂
Let’s go boys
What major do you guys think be the best? I personally think if the heretics hype keeps up then miami could be a throwback to a European event atmosphere
Do you think these two guns will
Be the meta all season long? Or is it early enough to add a different one? I’d love to see something else or even a third gun
W pod I loved it
"You need to have a floor that isnt the ...... bottom" 😂😂😂
Marky’s accent is so badass, braveheart vibes
Marky’s accent is so badass, braveheart vibes
Mark is such a good addition
THANK GOD NO LOUG 💯🙏🙏
Can we actually deep this, absolute randoms like Courage were getting offered big money to do watch parties, meanwhile dougs saying Zooma and Seth should be paying Activision a weekly licensing fee to do a watch party because all they do is sit on their couch and make free money 😂 actually insane lmfao
I wouldn’t say Courage is a random considering he was a Cod Caster for years
@@lukelenhart22 compared to scump and zooma hes a random 😂 courage wouldnt have had a job if it wernt for ppl like scump
He's been distancing himself as much as possible from the cod scene. Definitely not a part of the scene anymore atleast.@@lukelenhart22
@@cali2912facts
Wonder if Mack could slot in for Huke and if they’d see better results
Mack is a better flex player than he is a main SMG. Vegas should pick him up and drop purj
Tf? Huke is a demon much rather have huke
Do you think that Atlanta Faze has botched their opportunity to be solidified as a dynasty? Coming off of MW and CW all they had to do was win some events and look dominant as they had before but that didn’t happen. Now that the top teams have seemingly caught up talent wise, it looks to me that the opportunity for a faze dynasty or any dynasty to form for that matter has disappeared perhaps forever.
Where do you guys stand on Faze as a dynasty and do you think in the current talent of the top teams is so much that there won’t really be an opportunity for a dynasty ever again?
Faze take a minimum of three majors this year. They're only gonna get better also
@@TrancEII2010 they aren’t winning anything this year
And floptic is gonna win everything in your head huh? You cant be that retsrded @@swagxmagician
@swagxmagician I don't want them to win, but I feel like they're gonna slap everyone up. Too strong
The games also don't help, imo this trio would be way grosser on treyarch games
SLAYAAAA
Seattle has looked great so far. Do you think they might do a roster move for more slaying? This besides ingame decision making will hold them back imo...I would do temp for Alec or find a real smg and let abuzzah shine as a main Ar his natural role...both options drop Alec.