I think it’s the control that will probably define who wins from Winners Finals, Ultra got better at Highrise and Faze seem to be slipping on it so far, I don’t think the gap is THAT big between, but I do think the control will define who’ll win between them
@@zRGhost Agreed. CleanX spoke about them getting reps on and improving highrise ina post game interview I think. Only thing I can hope for is that optic builds back up some confidence thru M4 & hopefully an Ultra v Faze GF will be a banger
It’s not about optic “improving.” It’s about them getting past a mental block. It’s not like they all the sudden forgot how to shoot straight, or forgot how to play the game. They just AREN’T playing the way they were before BECAUSE of their mental. The gunny and the knowledge is still there. They’ve just gotta execute, and get over the hump!
obviously SnD for optic has been shaky but i really believe 90-95% of their problems is mental and within the team out of game. They are boys and i think once they figure it out even within these wins they are going to make it to Losers Finals at least. They took NYSL to 5 even looking the way they have.
going 1-10 in a game mode is not “ shaky” they undoubtedly SUCK at snd rn 🤷🏼♂️ if they show up at major 4 & draw a team who is a good snd team they are getting 12th…
@@moiseschavez772that’s another thing I haven’t seen people talking about, yeah their SnD has fallen off badly but they are losing these games by getting beaten in control and that’s usually their downfall. SND is the last game if they just clutched the HPs and Controls they’d be winning these series without having to go game 5
People act like their SnD gets reset to ZERO for some reason. Last month they definitively beat ultra,faze, and NY in SnD and now they act like all that is permanently gone and they can't recover. Their search looked bad this split yes, but idk why people act like it's chalked when just last month they beat everyone in the top4 in SnD to win a major 😅
“They’re not fixing it this soon” is kinda crazy after they fixed all their mistakes in a few hours and went on to win the chip as a result. I still think that no matter who they play on losers round 1 it will he a 50/50. But i think i would rather they play thieves since kremp is known to disappear in importa moments. But I wouldn’t mind miami cause if they beat miami you have to think that will light a fire in pred
@@ghoulboards yeah but my point is that pred hates them so if he beats them, especially 3-0 or 3-1, he might get more confidence than if they beat thieves
Every show seems to just be picking Legion to win vs Surge because "surely Attach has to make Champs". But what happens when Legion doesn't show up again? They should win vs Breach. But they could easily lose to Subliners. And realistically then Ravens and Legion could end up getting bounced in the same round. Ravens holds the head to head tie breaker vs Legion from what I see. Do they both get the same points if they get bounced in the same round? And then Ravens get into Champs and Legion don't?
Everyone says optic won't do good at land because there's no fans optic made a grand finals in mw2 in a major with no fans yeah they are two different teams but you can't ignore that and say optic aren't gonna perform because there's no fan's
These are the same people waiting to say "shottzy disappears on LAN" they just love to hate, sometimes the fans buff optic sometimes they hurt them it just depends which narrative the podcasters want to run with that day
Same. I think if they get 1 win they definitely figure it back out. Shit they could be trolling losing them online matches on purpose for all we know. I’m a faze fan but something just doesn’t make sense about what’s going on in their camp
Toronto was 1 cheese round from losing 3-1 online and 1 snd round from being sent to optic in the losers final last major. Then got slammed. Y’all can revisit this comment when faze beat ultra in the grand finals and when Toronto don’t make the final at champs.
FaZe has yet to beat Ultra on LAN this year. Twice at major 1 and once at major 3 while yes FaZe has had their number online. Should be a banger matchup as usual
@@NoiizeeFPS it’s new game I doubt the gap will be as big as this game (hopefully not). Ultra are just one fast pace smg to be that team that can lift them up when they go down 0-3 in finals. Hydra can definitely help with that
Nysl beats faze, mia drops down loses to optic 3-1, optic beats car 3-1 and meets faze semi finals and then ultra beats nysl 3-1 then nysl loose to optic in 3-0 then we have optic vs ultra GF 👀
@@ToxiicPlaysUCcoming from a faze fan, they definitely have a shot. All it takes is them to get their vibe back in one early round and get hot again and those dudes have the talent to get to the top
Does Faze make another change if they do not win another final. As much as everyone dick rides them as being the best team in the game what happens if they do not win another final this year.
I think it's worth considering strictly because draz is making a fool of himself on Twitter outside of the game. If they don't win champs faze will get hydra and move simp to flex. Hydra is a better player and is quiet and drama free like the rest of faze
@mkwsoxfan I don't think Hydra a free agent. Also cloud 9 partnering with NY I think they give him the bag and build around him. Depending how Toronto and Optic do Scrap or dashy could be available. Be interesting what these top 4 teams do in the off season.
With how good ultra has looked lately I don’t see them losing at this event might as well pencil in ultra faze in the the final and for champs finals if we r really being honest unless optic does a complete 180 witch I don’t see them doing at all
That’s what ppl said about faze major 3 and they collapsed. The favorites most of the time never win. Faze most likely since everyone focusing on Toronto
@@shafialanower3820 your absolutely right but like with how bad optic has looked theirs no other team that can challenge either faze or Toronto it wouldn’t shock me at all if faze win the event but this is a 2 team race everyone else might as well not show up
@@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb the problem with Miami and Seattle will be when they play faze or ultra I don’t think they stack up against them very well and hydra is the best player on the planet u are never out of a series when you have him but kismet is the X factor he’s been really inconsistent this year but if he can step then New York is dangerous as well
LAT BEAT MIAMI WR1 AND ITS MIAMI VS OPTIC FOR THE STORYLINE. OPTIC ELIMINATE HERETICS AND RAVENS BEAT OPTIC. LAT, MIAMI, RAVENS, SURGE MAKE IT THROUGH TO CHAMPS VEGAS AND LAG DONT MAKE IT.
Draz got spat on every game lol Faze really thought they were unstoppable in Major 3, and then when they lost, Simp wrote a big paragraph and everything, Ultra boutta run them again for the 20th time.
@@shafialanower3820I’m a faze fan, and we do not own Ultra… like at all bro. Ultra have beaten us pretty much every time on LAN and all we have against them are some online wins , not counting last year…
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Boston breach will take this one, willing to bet absolutely nothing on it
It would be cool if you guys all made your own bracket for champs and then go over them on the episode and compare and see who gets the most right
The flank used to do the flank awards. Please do a show at the end of the year with “most improved, biggest flop, most underrated, etc”
Optic fan here & this event has Toronto Ultra written all over it
I think it’s the control that will probably define who wins from Winners Finals, Ultra got better at Highrise and Faze seem to be slipping on it so far, I don’t think the gap is THAT big between, but I do think the control will define who’ll win between them
@@zRGhost Agreed. CleanX spoke about them getting reps on and improving highrise ina post game interview I think. Only thing I can hope for is that optic builds back up some confidence thru M4 & hopefully an Ultra v Faze GF will be a banger
Wrong
@@Galaxtacy how so?
@@zRGhost Hes not gonna elaborate bc hes slow in the head
It’s not about optic “improving.” It’s about them getting past a mental block. It’s not like they all the sudden forgot how to shoot straight, or forgot how to play the game. They just AREN’T playing the way they were before BECAUSE of their mental. The gunny and the knowledge is still there. They’ve just gotta execute, and get over the hump!
obviously SnD for optic has been shaky but i really believe 90-95% of their problems is mental and within the team out of game. They are boys and i think once they figure it out even within these wins they are going to make it to Losers Finals at least. They took NYSL to 5 even looking the way they have.
going 1-10 in a game mode is not “ shaky” they undoubtedly SUCK at snd rn 🤷🏼♂️ if they show up at major 4 & draw a team who is a good snd team they are getting 12th…
@@kyletoofye7663 for sure it’s more than shaky but i believe the large majority of the problem is the mental going into it.
OpTic Control record isn't that good either on maps that aren't Highrise, 😂
@@moiseschavez772that’s another thing I haven’t seen people talking about, yeah their SnD has fallen off badly but they are losing these games by getting beaten in control and that’s usually their downfall. SND is the last game if they just clutched the HPs and Controls they’d be winning these series without having to go game 5
People act like their SnD gets reset to ZERO for some reason. Last month they definitively beat ultra,faze, and NY in SnD and now they act like all that is permanently gone and they can't recover. Their search looked bad this split yes, but idk why people act like it's chalked when just last month they beat everyone in the top4 in SnD to win a major 😅
Parasite saying optic been mid this year is hilarious… they have the same placing has faze and better placing than ultra
They LAGed their last major. They're clearly the weakest of the big 3
@@GarikaiGumboironic considering they have beaten Toronto multiple times on Lan
@@GarikaiGumbo what they constantly beat ultra on lan 😂😂😂
They have been the worst team this stage. It’s difficult to defend as an optic fan. A roster change or two are badly needed before champs
@@alextv293 ur actually a idiot if you think roster change after the amazing year they had
“They’re not fixing it this soon” is kinda crazy after they fixed all their mistakes in a few hours and went on to win the chip as a result. I still think that no matter who they play on losers round 1 it will he a 50/50. But i think i would rather they play thieves since kremp is known to disappear in importa moments. But I wouldn’t mind miami cause if they beat miami you have to think that will light a fire in pred
I mean they beat Miami with purj as a short term sub. Might not have happened if Vikul was there.
@@ghoulboards yeah but my point is that pred hates them so if he beats them, especially 3-0 or 3-1, he might get more confidence than if they beat thieves
Every show seems to just be picking Legion to win vs Surge because "surely Attach has to make Champs". But what happens when Legion doesn't show up again? They should win vs Breach. But they could easily lose to Subliners. And realistically then Ravens and Legion could end up getting bounced in the same round. Ravens holds the head to head tie breaker vs Legion from what I see. Do they both get the same points if they get bounced in the same round? And then Ravens get into Champs and Legion don't?
True I mean this is the best they have looked all season but if they can show up like that at the lan then whats the point
Pred crying in the tn is insane😂😂😂
Everyone says optic won't do good at land because there's no fans optic made a grand finals in mw2 in a major with no fans yeah they are two different teams but you can't ignore that and say optic aren't gonna perform because there's no fan's
These are the same people waiting to say "shottzy disappears on LAN" they just love to hate, sometimes the fans buff optic sometimes they hurt them it just depends which narrative the podcasters want to run with that day
The only thing OpTic has going for them against the thieves is that the thieves haven't beat a top 4 team
Marky needs to be a coach again
What players did you “ego” or not play with because they were unproven that you came to regret from their future success and talent.
From first at major 3 to last place at major 4. That would be a dark day for Optic.
I think optic either get t12 or t3 no inbetween
That's where I was at lol, no way they're gonna make a run and then lose to anyone that's not ultra/faze
Same. I think if they get 1 win they definitely figure it back out. Shit they could be trolling losing them online matches on purpose for all we know. I’m a faze fan but something just doesn’t make sense about what’s going on in their camp
Scump and the heqzquarters 😂😂
If you get Clay and Felo on fire on lan, they'll be versing Subliners in loser semis.
What is your guys top 5 team logos/jerseys!?
Toronto was 1 cheese round from losing 3-1 online and 1 snd round from being sent to optic in the losers final last major. Then got slammed. Y’all can revisit this comment when faze beat ultra in the grand finals and when Toronto don’t make the final at champs.
I’m fine with either cause I know hydra is joining ultra next year 😤
FaZe has yet to beat Ultra on LAN this year. Twice at major 1 and once at major 3 while yes FaZe has had their number online. Should be a banger matchup as usual
@@mwm433 man if the speculation is accurate.... FaZe are the only team to compete. Turns into a 2 team league lmao
@@NoiizeeFPS it’s new game I doubt the gap will be as big as this game (hopefully not). Ultra are just one fast pace smg to be that team that can lift them up when they go down 0-3 in finals. Hydra can definitely help with that
@@NoiizeeFPSoptic hasn’t beat faze all year long and the one time they did they won the event 😂
if the bracket plays out the way these guys predict, but Ravens beat Optic then it’d be LAT that doesn’t make champs
Optic gotta pray on thieves success, only way they can get some momentum back is if they draw miami on friday
Pats what the fuck at 13:30 sent me for some reason
20:10 😂😂
Pat always coming for hukes head
Nysl beats faze, mia drops down loses to optic 3-1, optic beats car 3-1 and meets faze semi finals and then ultra beats nysl 3-1 then nysl loose to optic in 3-0 then we have optic vs ultra GF 👀
If optic wins this event, Pat has to get a Optic tattoo
This ain’t happening…they’re not looking good by any means
@@ToxiicPlaysUCcoming from a faze fan, they definitely have a shot. All it takes is them to get their vibe back in one early round and get hot again and those dudes have the talent to get to the top
Scrap is trolling and getting under ppls skin Draz may actually crash out and swing after losing
Never ever will Optic get this far. I would be shocked. Maybe they get to Legion, but that will be final boss. And that is a big maybe
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You have the two biggest optic hater on one show lol thats actually sad
You're upset? But how, other than pat who hates optic? Even then pat is just playing around
@@liammbiscwit parasite been optic hater the past 2 months
These guys will fly for 2-3 hours and get jet lag?!
NYSL gonna win this event
Boston have a better chance
Does Faze make another change if they do not win another final. As much as everyone dick rides them as being the best team in the game what happens if they do not win another final this year.
If they Don't win 2 events then they Will consider that a failure and change
I think it's worth considering strictly because draz is making a fool of himself on Twitter outside of the game. If they don't win champs faze will get hydra and move simp to flex. Hydra is a better player and is quiet and drama free like the rest of faze
@mkwsoxfan I don't think Hydra a free agent. Also cloud 9 partnering with NY I think they give him the bag and build around him.
Depending how Toronto and Optic do Scrap or dashy could be available. Be interesting what these top 4 teams do in the off season.
Faze takes it they own ultra
Haven't owned them yet
With how good ultra has looked lately I don’t see them losing at this event might as well pencil in ultra faze in the the final and for champs finals if we r really being honest unless optic does a complete 180 witch I don’t see them doing at all
That’s what ppl said about faze major 3 and they collapsed. The favorites most of the time never win. Faze most likely since everyone focusing on Toronto
@@shafialanower3820 your absolutely right but like with how bad optic has looked theirs no other team that can challenge either faze or Toronto it wouldn’t shock me at all if faze win the event but this is a 2 team race everyone else might as well not show up
You always have the Hydra just going absolute god mode possibility to. NYSL, Miami and Seattle are dangerous
@@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb the problem with Miami and Seattle will be when they play faze or ultra I don’t think they stack up against them very well and hydra is the best player on the planet u are never out of a series when you have him but kismet is the X factor he’s been really inconsistent this year but if he can step then New York is dangerous as well
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do ultra really look better than faze? they have the same map count this stage and faze got fucked by the propane. Also ultra literally lost to surge
Every team gets fucked by propane ?
I think Ultra win, or a team who hasn’t won before.
Glad to see everyone realizing after the past 3 years that Lamar sucks
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You’re all wrong , guerillas or however you spell it, is winning
LAT BEAT MIAMI WR1 AND ITS MIAMI VS OPTIC FOR THE STORYLINE. OPTIC ELIMINATE HERETICS AND RAVENS BEAT OPTIC. LAT, MIAMI, RAVENS, SURGE MAKE IT THROUGH TO CHAMPS VEGAS AND LAG DONT MAKE IT.
Optic beating nysl they haven't beaten optic at all on land this season only online and online plays totally different land
It doesn't play completely different at all, only slightly and that's usually just mindset.
LAT always wins major 4
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faze vs ultra finals. ultra 4-2 Faze
Draz got spat on every game lol Faze really thought they were unstoppable in Major 3, and then when they lost, Simp wrote a big paragraph and everything, Ultra boutta run them again for the 20th time.
Faze owns ultra only scrap shoots back
@@shafialanower3820 That's why Cleanx dropped 40 on their heads the other day right
@@shafialanower3820I’m a faze fan, and we do not own Ultra… like at all bro. Ultra have beaten us pretty much every time on LAN and all we have against them are some online wins , not counting last year…
@@shafialanower3820Ultra smacked Faze 3-0 in champs LOOOOOOOOL you sound dumb now innit
This optic roster is garbage.
Ultra not winning
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