Honestly an apology would’ve sufficed imo, but they gave rewards which was better than I expected. I think people are conflating what would be an acceptable amount of rewards for an apology vs how many rewards they should be giving on the regular. I think InFold is stingy on the regular but this amount of apologems was more than enough
Saying “they don’t owe us anything” is a recipe for a gacha game to fuck over its player base in perpetuity. I don’t care about the rewards, but this specific thing is just incorrect. If things are not right, yes, some sort of compensation is owed. This shouldn’t even be up for debate. This is a gacha game!
@Giztodo i strongly agree with this message. Gachas only survive because of the ppl who play it. Its truthfully a two way street but some ppl have definitely gaslighted themselves into thinking that we're somehow groveling subjects to the gacha industry. In business, the customer is king. If players actually changed their POV then the gacha world would be v different.
It is indeed more generous than many gacha game out there. And yes, Kuro is an exception. It's sad that I've stopped playing all their game though.....
@@Courtannica I came out from fgo after years of playing and although it's been months, the experience is still fresh. Lol What I said as generous is for overall experience not just what they give after issues. That includes their event gifts and pity. 70 is quite good. Or maybe I should've worded it better like, "There are worse gacha games out there."
@@Courtannica i feel like u haven't play enough gacha games to speak on this topic. LAD is more generous than most popular gacha game out there afk arena, fgo, blue archive, geshin etc. i am not saying they are the most generous but compared to peers, they are doing pretty good.
LADS is an incomplete live service game (w/ a gambling system ontop of that). Saying "just be thankful" to a company that is giving you an incomplete product in which you need the stuff locked behind the gacha to actually play and experience the game properly is a half-baked take that half-baked people make imo. The main content of LADS is locked behind the gacha. If you don't get it yourself, you have to watch it on youtube. Otherwise, there's literally no value to the game. Sadly, it's not like Infinity Nikki where you have a complete game for free with only the cosmetics being in the gacha. I do think that LADS is extremely stingey compared to other gacha games. But this is a Genshin Impact situation. There's no alternative game option that's high quality like LADS is. Until there's a worthy competitor, I don't expect anything better. We need a rival for LADS like WuWa is to Genshin. I don’t expect a better situation til that happens.
I know that Paper Games needs to up their ingame currencies and rewards. Most people cant "Pay to Play." And it's extremely stingy considering that new content is always rolling out and youre basically always trying to manage your real and ingame currencies. At the very least, they SHOULD allow you to keep the limited deepspace wishes so that you can use them for whoever you want because all the boys have their banners. Theyre making sht complicated now with adding Caleb.
Oh no. I was in that in thread on Reddit and nah. We shouldn't "just be thankful." LaDS is definitely the most stingy with in game resources. And their pity system is terrible especially in comparison with gachas like Final Fantasy EverCrisis.
they gave a limited wish since there's a limited banner going on that's just all there is to it. if you aren't pulling for the current banner then that sucks just let it convert to a blue wish ticket if you aren't pulling (cuz there's a good chance for 3.0 another Pulse Hunter banner is gonna happen.) i mean the bug was resolved within 10-12hrs so it really was just a minor inconvenience that deserved a small compensation.
9:25 wait really? I don't even know who the devs are but I'd be very interested to know what they personally say about the game since I never really stumbled upon any personal statements from the devs themselves, just the updates the usually post on social media Also, it's ironic how female-oriented games are seen as huge cash grabs, yet the amount of them is almost non-existent in comparison to other games lol it just makes it so easy for lads to make bank every month when they have no competition
I actually posted on that thread and ended up getting heavily downvoted for saying that Papergames could do more. It takes 140 wishes to guarantee even a solo card. They literally did the bare minimum. I do think it would have been better if they'd made it an unlimited deepwish and 150 diamonds. If thinking they could do more considering how hard it is to grind for diamonds and get materials makes me entitled, then so be it tbh. Yes, heartfelt gift is running, but it gives us it daily so we don't get it all in one go. And even then, it's not a lot once you get down to it especially since you know a quad banner is around the corner. That's not even getting how hard it is to be f2p. So yeah, I do think they could afford to give us a bit more at least until they start giving us better ways to get diamonds.
@Sylusgirlie for sure!!! I couldn't believe so many people were saying "we should just be grateful" (this is why we suffer with irl men because we accept bare minimum!!) Anyways, their pity system and in-game mats/crystals and farming them is SO low for what you get (especially in comparison with other games!) And really..... not appreciating your players tends to get old fast. I agree. They could be doing a LOT more.
@@Sylusgirlie and only getting 20-40 for new levels cleared (and sometimes 50-60) is abysmal. Evercrisis gives 100-200. Plus a TON of jewels during their events. Like upwards of 1-3k (and 300, 500, etc for daily login) daily 10 pull draws etc. I'm starting to feel extra grateful for EverCrisis honestly. XD
I think the issue with any type of rewards in general (other than the 10/20 pulls which are great) is the fact that they don’t feel like rewards at all. The situation of the game makes it so that almost always (expecially F2P) players need every single wish they can get. If the ingame experience was better, so people are able to every so often get what they want (not R3'ing cards or getting every single card for all 4 Li's, but at least being able to get a significant chunk of cards for one Li) if the effort matched with the results most people would probably be happy no matter what the rewards are because we dont really need them and are aware they're a kind of gift from the company. But in reality, thats not the case. A lot of people are angry and pissed off about the lack of resources which in turn leads to their misplaced anger at the rewards. Not saying players shouldn't be angry, but pointing out that the rewards shouldn't be the target of their anger.
My problem with the "apology rewards" is that it doesn't match the inconveniences that players have to experience for the game. I was literally checking on my phone the whole day waiting for them to fix the bug that occurred since the event was launched at 5:00am. The bug was only fixed later in the evening for me. I was delayed from starting the event for a whole 12 hours and all I got for compensation was 100 diamonds, ONE limited ticket and 100 staminas?? So, I agree with some of the people's comments. They could have done better with the compensation. I didn't even see any notification from them on their socials for global players about the bug? I had to check X myself to see if others were experiencing the same problems as me and only got to know that they are aware of the bug, AFTER I made a bug report in my game app.
@@raynarasilva6476 That's not the point I was making. I'm making a point that they need to improve on their Global Marketing/PR Service. We were left in the dark trying to find the answers for ourselves.
@@raynarasilva6476 That's not the point I was making. I'm making a point that they need to improve on their Global Marketing/PR Service. We were left in the dark trying to find the answers for ourselves.
I understand this but there is not how it works, what could be better is changing the in game faming, puttin g a card awakenned is so much work and it is so slow shouldn't be. and if they upgraded the way we get those rewards by ourselves by farming for example increase the amount of chocolate we win over the week it would make so many people happier also this limited wish thing is not it!
that is dumbing it down to the ground tbh. there is something called customer respect in the industry. in LAD people need 140 pulls to get a ssr card that they want. they didn't even give out 2 pulls worth. that is just disrespectful to the player base, basically they only see us as dollar signs.
@lumaw152 oh I'm with you, the game is super stingy, I am trying to understand who in their right mind is saying "oh they owe us nothing..." Like gee, sis, if you want to be a whale, fine, but don't push this on us. Free players are part of the eco system, we help build the community and consume content just as much. Ps: I'm not even going into the pity system. I just lost the new Sylus companion while 20 pulls away. I got 4 out of 5 cards, therefore, no companion for me. --'
@@isascarparo5992 sorry if i sounded aggressive. i just get emotional really quick. i 100% agree with you on this. i am also generally f2p bsc i play too many gacha games. and i am sorry you didn't get the slyus companion, i got lucky this time but i felt the same when i lost on rafayel companion as well.
Update: I agree with everything in this video and that's that XD True they could have given us a full ten pull and I'm disappointed but am I surprised? Nope! It's a company. A company's goal is to make money for it's owners. Charity isn't the goal here.
@@plumedargent3359other gachas do though. EverCrisis consistently has events where a free 10 pull is an everyday occurrence. They load players down with their crystals, every new level completed is 100-200 (not 20 l o l) For their anniversary, they had a free 5 star of your choice for every element in the game (that was like 10-11 FREE weapons.)
Genshin gives 100 primos and that’s it, I don’t remember them giving 300. That being said… if I don’t pay for the packs and the log in pass there is no other way to get pulls and earlies are very rare.
i also don't like genshin but let's not lie here okay? i have gotten 400 primos and some wishes even in the past. LAD should def give out more. it's not like 10 pulls guarantee a ssr. the best we gonna get are some powders.
Honestly an apology would’ve sufficed imo, but they gave rewards which was better than I expected.
I think people are conflating what would be an acceptable amount of rewards for an apology vs how many rewards they should be giving on the regular. I think InFold is stingy on the regular but this amount of apologems was more than enough
Saying “they don’t owe us anything” is a recipe for a gacha game to fuck over its player base in perpetuity. I don’t care about the rewards, but this specific thing is just incorrect. If things are not right, yes, some sort of compensation is owed. This shouldn’t even be up for debate. This is a gacha game!
@Giztodo i strongly agree with this message. Gachas only survive because of the ppl who play it. Its truthfully a two way street but some ppl have definitely gaslighted themselves into thinking that we're somehow groveling subjects to the gacha industry. In business, the customer is king. If players actually changed their POV then the gacha world would be v different.
It is indeed more generous than many gacha game out there. And yes, Kuro is an exception. It's sad that I've stopped playing all their game though.....
@KRNNT- lads is def not generous xD
@@Courtannica I came out from fgo after years of playing and although it's been months, the experience is still fresh. Lol
What I said as generous is for overall experience not just what they give after issues. That includes their event gifts and pity. 70 is quite good.
Or maybe I should've worded it better like, "There are worse gacha games out there."
@@Courtannica i feel like u haven't play enough gacha games to speak on this topic. LAD is more generous than most popular gacha game out there afk arena, fgo, blue archive, geshin etc. i am not saying they are the most generous but compared to peers, they are doing pretty good.
@@lumaw152 Compared to Final Fantasy EverCrisis it is terrible. Don't tell me what I cant and can speak on.
@@lumaw152 also you flip flop in your opinions in other comments. Seems more like you're a troll than anything
LADS is an incomplete live service game (w/ a gambling system ontop of that).
Saying "just be thankful" to a company that is giving you an incomplete product in which you need the stuff locked behind the gacha to actually play and experience the game properly is a half-baked take that half-baked people make imo.
The main content of LADS is locked behind the gacha. If you don't get it yourself, you have to watch it on youtube. Otherwise, there's literally no value to the game.
Sadly, it's not like Infinity Nikki where you have a complete game for free with only the cosmetics being in the gacha.
I do think that LADS is extremely stingey compared to other gacha games. But this is a Genshin Impact situation. There's no alternative game option that's high quality like LADS is. Until there's a worthy competitor, I don't expect anything better.
We need a rival for LADS like WuWa is to Genshin. I don’t expect a better situation til that happens.
Might be hard to find a rival in mainland china this game is crushing the other otome in terms of of revenue
I know that Paper Games needs to up their ingame currencies and rewards. Most people cant "Pay to Play." And it's extremely stingy considering that new content is always rolling out and youre basically always trying to manage your real and ingame currencies. At the very least, they SHOULD allow you to keep the limited deepspace wishes so that you can use them for whoever you want because all the boys have their banners. Theyre making sht complicated now with adding Caleb.
Oh no. I was in that in thread on Reddit and nah. We shouldn't "just be thankful." LaDS is definitely the most stingy with in game resources. And their pity system is terrible especially in comparison with gachas like Final Fantasy EverCrisis.
they gave a limited wish since there's a limited banner going on that's just all there is to it. if you aren't pulling for the current banner then that sucks just let it convert to a blue wish ticket if you aren't pulling (cuz there's a good chance for 3.0 another Pulse Hunter banner is gonna happen.)
i mean the bug was resolved within 10-12hrs so it really was just a minor inconvenience that deserved a small compensation.
9:25 wait really? I don't even know who the devs are but I'd be very interested to know what they personally say about the game since I never really stumbled upon any personal statements from the devs themselves, just the updates the usually post on social media
Also, it's ironic how female-oriented games are seen as huge cash grabs, yet the amount of them is almost non-existent in comparison to other games lol it just makes it so easy for lads to make bank every month when they have no competition
I actually posted on that thread and ended up getting heavily downvoted for saying that Papergames could do more. It takes 140 wishes to guarantee even a solo card. They literally did the bare minimum. I do think it would have been better if they'd made it an unlimited deepwish and 150 diamonds.
If thinking they could do more considering how hard it is to grind for diamonds and get materials makes me entitled, then so be it tbh. Yes, heartfelt gift is running, but it gives us it daily so we don't get it all in one go. And even then, it's not a lot once you get down to it especially since you know a quad banner is around the corner. That's not even getting how hard it is to be f2p.
So yeah, I do think they could afford to give us a bit more at least until they start giving us better ways to get diamonds.
@Sylusgirlie for sure!!! I couldn't believe so many people were saying "we should just be grateful" (this is why we suffer with irl men because we accept bare minimum!!) Anyways, their pity system and in-game mats/crystals and farming them is SO low for what you get (especially in comparison with other games!) And really..... not appreciating your players tends to get old fast. I agree. They could be doing a LOT more.
@@Sylusgirlie and only getting 20-40 for new levels cleared (and sometimes 50-60) is abysmal. Evercrisis gives 100-200. Plus a TON of jewels during their events. Like upwards of 1-3k (and 300, 500, etc for daily login) daily 10 pull draws etc. I'm starting to feel extra grateful for EverCrisis honestly. XD
I think the issue with any type of rewards in general (other than the 10/20 pulls which are great) is the fact that they don’t feel like rewards at all. The situation of the game makes it so that almost always (expecially F2P) players need every single wish they can get.
If the ingame experience was better, so people are able to every so often get what they want (not R3'ing cards or getting every single card for all 4 Li's, but at least being able to get a significant chunk of cards for one Li) if the effort matched with the results most people would probably be happy no matter what the rewards are because we dont really need them and are aware they're a kind of gift from the company. But in reality, thats not the case. A lot of people are angry and pissed off about the lack of resources which in turn leads to their misplaced anger at the rewards. Not saying players shouldn't be angry, but pointing out that the rewards shouldn't be the target of their anger.
My problem with the "apology rewards" is that it doesn't match the inconveniences that players have to experience for the game. I was literally checking on my phone the whole day waiting for them to fix the bug that occurred since the event was launched at 5:00am. The bug was only fixed later in the evening for me. I was delayed from starting the event for a whole 12 hours and all I got for compensation was 100 diamonds, ONE limited ticket and 100 staminas?? So, I agree with some of the people's comments. They could have done better with the compensation. I didn't even see any notification from them on their socials for global players about the bug? I had to check X myself to see if others were experiencing the same problems as me and only got to know that they are aware of the bug, AFTER I made a bug report in my game app.
But The event hv days for you complet!! The Hours not is a problem!!
@@raynarasilva6476 That's not the point I was making. I'm making a point that they need to improve on their Global Marketing/PR Service. We were left in the dark trying to find the answers for ourselves.
@@raynarasilva6476 That's not the point I was making. I'm making a point that they need to improve on their Global Marketing/PR Service. We were left in the dark trying to find the answers for ourselves.
I understand this but there is not how it works, what could be better is changing the in game faming, puttin g a card awakenned is so much work and it is so slow shouldn't be. and if they upgraded the way we get those rewards by ourselves by farming for example increase the amount of chocolate we win over the week it would make so many people happier also this limited wish thing is not it!
People are complaining that the devs are giving free assets that cost them nothing to make?
Am i understanding this correctly?
that is dumbing it down to the ground tbh. there is something called customer respect in the industry. in LAD people need 140 pulls to get a ssr card that they want. they didn't even give out 2 pulls worth. that is just disrespectful to the player base, basically they only see us as dollar signs.
@lumaw152 oh I'm with you, the game is super stingy, I am trying to understand who in their right mind is saying "oh they owe us nothing..."
Like gee, sis, if you want to be a whale, fine, but don't push this on us.
Free players are part of the eco system, we help build the community and consume content just as much.
Ps: I'm not even going into the pity system. I just lost the new Sylus companion while 20 pulls away.
I got 4 out of 5 cards, therefore, no companion for me. --'
@@isascarparo5992 sorry if i sounded aggressive. i just get emotional really quick. i 100% agree with you on this. i am also generally f2p bsc i play too many gacha games. and i am sorry you didn't get the slyus companion, i got lucky this time but i felt the same when i lost on rafayel companion as well.
@lumaw152 it's OK. I understand that sometimes, objective writing can sound a certain way, don't worry.
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oh jeez! I'm early! be back in 10 minutes after the video
Update: I agree with everything in this video and that's that XD
True they could have given us a full ten pull and I'm disappointed but am I surprised? Nope! It's a company. A company's goal is to make money for it's owners. Charity isn't the goal here.
@@plumedargent3359other gachas do though. EverCrisis consistently has events where a free 10 pull is an everyday occurrence. They load players down with their crystals, every new level completed is 100-200 (not 20 l o l) For their anniversary, they had a free 5 star of your choice for every element in the game (that was like 10-11 FREE weapons.)
@@Courtannicanever heard of them before so that definitely isn't working that well for them
@@senu. It's Final Fantasy.
Genshin gives 100 primos and that’s it, I don’t remember them giving 300. That being said… if I don’t pay for the packs and the log in pass there is no other way to get pulls and earlies are very rare.
i also don't like genshin but let's not lie here okay? i have gotten 400 primos and some wishes even in the past. LAD should def give out more. it's not like 10 pulls guarantee a ssr. the best we gonna get are some powders.
I'm surprised they gave 100 dias and 1 full pull though I didn't even know what the bug was tbh
@senu. a full pull would've been 10 though.... not just 1 🤔🤔
You're the only active lads youtuber i follow T-T so lucky i found u ngl🥹