I've literally just done "the lazy works twice as much" stuff. I started retopologing my garment with the thought "I'll watch the tutorial a bit later", so I've done like 70% of the mesh (4-5 hours) and then I watched this tutorial and realized that there's a Ctrl+Shift function to divide multiple polygons... bruh. Now I'm redoing everything from the beginning because this workflow gives much cleaner result
@@WisEngineeringLLC What about pockets? I did jacket with 2 pockets and i heve no idea what to do with them. Should i merge it's vetricles with jacket base patter or what?
@@eritumakafakafo3008 Why would you merge it with the base jacket? There's no reason unless you're planning on texturing a seamless pattern over top of them. In which case there are non-destructive texturing solutions, like triplanar projection.
Set short cut F3 for creating retopo, F4 for edit retopo.1. click four vertexes for creating a square (same with Maya); 2. F3, hold shift+control and left click, insert edge loop, 3. F4 left click and drag vertex to move 4. F4 hold ctrl select multiple vertexes if you want to delete, hit backspace. If you want to merge the vertexes, right-click, merge Or you could watch from 10:00
you can weld them in Zbrush btw just import the mesh, Polygroups > Autogroup with UV's > Modify Topology > Weld it would cut out you going into studio max, and you can also separate it in Zbrush as well.
It's indeed a clever improvement for MD...I just wish they implement "automatic points snapping to pattern edges" and "add points" more easily...hope the next version of MD10 will be just great!
Wow thank you so much for this, you saved me from a lot of errors, and headaches. I have been having a lot of issues with uploading my mesh into my game and have been getting errors, but with your tutorial it has helped. thanks again, I sub to you.
yeah thats the only critique i would have about marvelous designer is that their tutorials are fucking horrible no speaking and super hard to follow what they are doing if your new to the software. the best tutorial is by this girl called cg elves it covers everything from top to bottom but its a bit pricey but worth it if you really wanna learn marvelous in and out.
thanks for sharing, always wanted to see how others used the retop tools. learned a couple things today from ya. Would love to see a full workflow, MD>ZBRUSH>MAX>PAINTER
WOW never knew about this!! Is this the way people create game ready assets, do they use this tool or just do it in maya? What are the benefits to both?
It's great and thanks for the tutorial. But sadly we still have to match and weld the seams in blender, max or whatever after. So may as well retopo in there directly. All the thickness settings are lost as well... Marvelous designer is great for simulation, but there is a real workflow issue when you want to use what you make.
when applying the remesh (duplicate or all), it creates new stitch points for the 2d pattern. Whereas before applying, the original had say 1 line to stitch to another, now there are dozens (each poly is a single stitch point). Is there a workaround for it to remesh but not create these new stitch points or to maintain the original stitch pairings?
Hello, after converting the new geometry, the UVs no longer line up, the new UVs for the new geometry is resized and shifted in the UV editor.. Are your UVs lining up after convert???
very helpful for a character 'im doing with cloth floating , zbrush has a hard time remeshing it, so if I can do that inside Marvelous as a first pass it's good ! I'll try that first thing in the morning :)
@@WisEngineeringLLC it turned out pretty ok, I found it a bit stiff, there is no real way to add vertices like in Maya for example, but got a hang on it and understood the process behind it.
hmm one issue im having is that it gets rid of the topstitch and to reapply i have to select every single edge which becomes time consuming any fix to this
Thank you so much ! @wisEngineering Did you ever made a video that show how you project the high poly in the low poly with Zbrush ? And then how do you import all of this in substance ?
You can export UVs directly from MD, where the drop-down tab to switch from simulate to animate is, there's a UV editor tab. In that, there's 2 icons in the top left corner of the UV viewport, the left of those 2 exports a single UV, the right one exports all UVs & maps (normals, displacement and so on).
Very nice thank you! would love to see the process in Zbrush with adding thickness and projecting and then bringing it to substance for baking. My bakings all suck for some reasons and I cant figure out why even though I project all, sculpt, export high and low and then bake :( :D
hey Todd - when i go to animate leggings in MD, the fabric tears up (fragments) and get holes, mostly along the inner legs. i've tried using different fabrics, even ones with stretch. maybe it's a self-collision issue? any idea what settings i can adjust to fix this? thanks.
@@temitayoprecious2692 hi. yes, i tried that and it did help but not completely. the fabric still tears. i also tried adjusting the fit, but no luck. thank you for your reply :)
@@artkiko4460 the irony is I am currently working on leggings and sports bras and I haven't had a tear at all. But if reducing particular distance helped, how low was the particle distance?
Thanks for this, I'm using the latest version MD rn, but whenever I retopo and hide garments on the 3D View, I can still see them and its very hard to align vertices that way. Is there any way to completely turn them off or something?
how to export remesh to retopology mesh? When i export, I get original dense cloth, not low poly retopo model. Remesh option is checked but the exported mesh is more than 50k polys, unusable in unity or unreal.
Hello! I have a problem with retopology - once I create all the retopology on patterns and later on I remesh all (duplicate), the clothing in 3D window falls apart. Everything that has been sewn together dissapers from the newly created retopology mesh. Does anybody have the same problem or knows how to solve it? Please help, thank you. Any feedback/help is very much appreciated!
u would bring in the high rez and the retypo meshe then using projection move up one level at a time and reproject from the high rez to the low rez model.
Hi great tutorial. May I know what is the workflow if I plan to sculpt it in blender, can I send it back to marvelous designer for the retopology for a game ready asset?
Thanks for this very useful tutorial. But I'm still confused by one point. The vertices of the 'main' part of the garment are all merged, to give something with perfect quad flow. But any peripherals, like the pocket, are not, in turn, merged with the body (this would mess up quad flow). So, in the world of animation, or selling objs of garments to animators - is it acceptable to have peripheral details 'floating' as separate items?
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I've literally just done "the lazy works twice as much" stuff.
I started retopologing my garment with the thought "I'll watch the tutorial a bit later", so I've done like 70% of the mesh (4-5 hours) and then I watched this tutorial and realized that there's a Ctrl+Shift function to divide multiple polygons... bruh.
Now I'm redoing everything from the beginning because this workflow gives much cleaner result
same
Holy shit, this is seriously a game changer. Just being able to retopologize in marvelous alone saves me so many headaches. Thanks for the tutorial!!
Thanks for the feedback! Glad you like it!
@@WisEngineeringLLC What about pockets? I did jacket with 2 pockets and i heve no idea what to do with them. Should i merge it's vetricles with jacket base patter or what?
@@eritumakafakafo3008 Why would you merge it with the base jacket? There's no reason unless you're planning on texturing a seamless pattern over top of them. In which case there are non-destructive texturing solutions, like triplanar projection.
Set short cut F3 for creating retopo, F4 for edit retopo.1. click four vertexes for creating a square (same with Maya); 2. F3, hold shift+control and left click, insert edge loop, 3. F4 left click and drag vertex to move 4. F4 hold ctrl select multiple vertexes if you want to delete, hit backspace. If you want to merge the vertexes, right-click, merge
Or you could watch from 10:00
The best retopology tutorial ever
This is the best tutorial on retopology in marvelous designer. Thank you.
you can weld them in Zbrush btw just import the mesh, Polygroups > Autogroup with UV's > Modify Topology > Weld it would cut out you going into studio max, and you can also separate it in Zbrush as well.
“Someone is going to skin this dude...not gonna be me” lmao
It's indeed a clever improvement for MD...I just wish they implement "automatic points snapping to pattern edges" and "add points" more easily...hope the next version of MD10 will be just great!
This is the only video where I really understand what's up. :D Thanks for sharing ♥
Glad it was helpful!
This is a game changing. Thank you so much !
Wow thank you so much for this, you saved me from a lot of errors, and headaches. I have been having a lot of issues with uploading my mesh into my game and have been getting errors, but with your tutorial it has helped. thanks again, I sub to you.
i would like to see a eddit tutorial for zbrush from A to Z and then on substance painter. It would be very helpful
Great idea! We're working on a new game launch but will bring this up to the team!
Dude, killer workflow! Thanks for this!
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated!
Super useful. Took me a while to find a proper tutorial about this new function. The official one is utterly useless. Thanks.
yeah thats the only critique i would have about marvelous designer is that their tutorials are fucking horrible no speaking and super hard to follow what they are doing if your new to the software. the best tutorial is by this girl called cg elves it covers everything from top to bottom but its a bit pricey but worth it if you really wanna learn marvelous in and out.
Glad to hear that!
thanks for sharing, always wanted to see how others used the retop tools. learned a couple things today from ya. Would love to see a full workflow, MD>ZBRUSH>MAX>PAINTER
Would be awesome more videos like this
Ive been looking for this thanks a lot
Great work really enjoyed the tutorial! Saved me so much time!
Great to hear!
WOW never knew about this!! Is this the way people create game ready assets, do they use this tool or just do it in maya? What are the benefits to both?
It's great and thanks for the tutorial. But sadly we still have to match and weld the seams in blender, max or whatever after. So may as well retopo in there directly. All the thickness settings are lost as well... Marvelous designer is great for simulation, but there is a real workflow issue when you want to use what you make.
you could always go Edit mode>Select similar>select sharp>M>by distance.
Welded (assuming your exported garment has all seam edges set to sharp.)
when applying the remesh (duplicate or all), it creates new stitch points for the 2d pattern. Whereas before applying, the original had say 1 line to stitch to another, now there are dozens (each poly is a single stitch point). Is there a workaround for it to remesh but not create these new stitch points or to maintain the original stitch pairings?
On a Mac, try Cmd+Shift for placing the loop cuts. It might save you some sanity ...
Excellent!!! Thanks bro
Welcome 👍
Very nice tutorial, thanks.
The workflow from this to zbrush high and lowpoly would help alot!
Make the ZBush step bro
Wow,! Very very clear tutorial, now I understand the tools... thanks man 👍👍
Glad it helped!
great video. i will apply this to my character football player uniform model. :)
Go for it!
How did you turn on the symmetry ? I've been looking for it for hours I cannot find it...
Hello, after converting the new geometry, the UVs no longer line up, the new UVs for the new geometry is resized and shifted in the UV editor.. Are your UVs lining up after convert???
did it has UV like Md pattern ?
very helpful for a character 'im doing with cloth floating , zbrush has a hard time remeshing it, so if I can do that inside Marvelous as a first pass it's good ! I'll try that first thing in the morning :)
Let us know how it worked out!
@@WisEngineeringLLC it turned out pretty ok, I found it a bit stiff, there is no real way to add vertices like in Maya for example, but got a hang on it and understood the process behind it.
hmm one issue im having is that it gets rid of the topstitch and to reapply i have to select every single edge which becomes time consuming any fix to this
Thank you so much ! @wisEngineering
Did you ever made a video that show how you project the high poly in the low poly with Zbrush ?
And then how do you import all of this in substance ?
Hey mirroring topology isn't on while im doing retopo, any ideas why this isn't working for me?
Thx for great tutorial
Thanks a lot for sharing your workflow, it is been really helpful!
this is incredibly useful, thank you so much for this video!
That's great to hear!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for stopping by!
Many thanks for sharing! This has really helped!
Glad it helped!
does retopping in marvelous mean we can get the uvs from the 2d garment window aka perfect uvs??
You can export UVs directly from MD, where the drop-down tab to switch from simulate to animate is, there's a UV editor tab. In that, there's 2 icons in the top left corner of the UV viewport, the left of those 2 exports a single UV, the right one exports all UVs & maps (normals, displacement and so on).
Thank you for this great tutorial.İs there an option to bake normal map from high poly to low poly in Marvelous Designer ?
How do you enable symmetry when creating the retopo model?
Thanks! More like this, PLEASE!!
More to come!
Very nice thank you! would love to see the process in Zbrush with adding thickness and projecting and then bringing it to substance for baking. My bakings all suck for some reasons and I cant figure out why even though I project all, sculpt, export high and low and then bake :( :D
Glad you liked it!
how do you add thickness to the cloth though?
Hm for some reason when i export i get old triangulated version, not retopologized....
for some reason whenever I remesh duplicate, the new mesh has no topology information/vertices
Nice video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
I'm pretty new to MD, but couldn't you just Shift+Q to hide uneeded garments? Shift+W to bring back.
After Quadrangulate my details half of them aren't quadrangulated but stayed triangled, what's wrong?
Is there no way to view current polycount within Marvelous when doing retopology?
Could clothes be repo'd this way in Blender?
My retopo wont export and I dont know why
Thanks ! helps a lot!!
Glad to hear that!
hey Todd - when i go to animate leggings in MD, the fabric tears up (fragments) and get holes, mostly along the inner legs. i've tried using different fabrics, even ones with stretch. maybe it's a self-collision issue? any idea what settings i can adjust to fix this? thanks.
You tried reducing the particle distance?
@@temitayoprecious2692 hi. yes, i tried that and it did help but not completely. the fabric still tears. i also tried adjusting the fit, but no luck. thank you for your reply :)
@@artkiko4460 the irony is I am currently working on leggings and sports bras and I haven't had a tear at all. But if reducing particular distance helped, how low was the particle distance?
I hope i can remesh a good Lukas like u achieved a good Bob.
Why do only points on the edge remain when I remesh(duplicate) it? Does anyone know?
Thanks for this, I'm using the latest version MD rn, but whenever I retopo and hide garments on the 3D View, I can still see them and its very hard to align vertices that way. Is there any way to completely turn them off or something?
really really nice tutorial , thinks bro
Glad you liked it
The best video
Shift+control+click doesn’t work for me fo some reason 😢 can’t create any new edge loops
I really thank you.I love to 3d world and you were very much help me.I know how to make retopology anymore.
Happy to hear that! So glad you liked it!
how to export remesh to retopology mesh? When i export, I get original dense cloth, not low poly retopo model. Remesh option is checked but the exported mesh is more than 50k polys, unusable in unity or unreal.
How to weld in Blender? I have no 3d max.
Thanks for the question! The team is working on some new content. I'll try to snag someone who might be able to give you an answer.
Cool, it helped in my work.
Glad it helped!
gracias amigo
Hello!
I have a problem with retopology - once I create all the retopology on patterns and later on I remesh all (duplicate), the clothing in 3D window falls apart. Everything that has been sewn together dissapers from the newly created retopology mesh. Does anybody have the same problem or knows how to solve it? Please help, thank you.
Any feedback/help is very much appreciated!
Thank You!
You're welcome!
Nice one....
Can you shate how you project garment details in zbrush.... Thank you for the information
u would bring in the high rez and the retypo meshe then using projection move up one level at a time and reproject from the high rez to the low rez model.
thank you so much
Thank YOU for checking this out!
Great!!!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Hi great tutorial. May I know what is the workflow if I plan to sculpt it in blender, can I send it back to marvelous designer for the retopology for a game ready asset?
we got good bob and bad bob, man I laugh my head off
Happy you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this very useful tutorial. But I'm still confused by one point. The vertices of the 'main' part of the garment are all merged, to give something with perfect quad flow. But any peripherals, like the pocket, are not, in turn, merged with the body (this would mess up quad flow). So, in the world of animation, or selling objs of garments to animators - is it acceptable to have peripheral details 'floating' as separate items?
i recently Nice tutorialt softex on soft soft
I wish This tool to be more Complex. It's very basic.
Todd!
*sits and watches* "Here's this method. BUt this happens, so I don't really use this one." WHY?!
Can you speak more slowly so I can write down 🤣🤣🤣